For those who long to do Godbs will [Archive]

tpfkasof (tpfkasof)

01-26-2005, 06:52 AM

PLEASE keep this off-topic spam OUT of the Scientology discussion group! People are here to learn about and recover from involvement in L Ron Hubbard's cult. It is doubtful you will find this to be fertile hunting ground for recruits to the cult of Eugene Spriggs.

Isn't it time you took responsibility for your own life, "David Derush"???

elray (elray)

01-26-2005, 03:24 PM

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To the sincere of heart who long to do God's will:<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Anyone disagreeing is not sincere?

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The Son of God said to rejoice and leap for joy when men say all manner of evil against you falsely.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

But did He say to categorize everything men say about you that you personally do not enjoy hearing as "evil" even if it may be true and indeed evidence suggests it?

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Based on that alone, we have a wonderfully joyful life in the Twelve Tribes communities.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

You speak for everyone? What gives you that right? Only Jesus spoke for everyone. You aren't Jesus.

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But our joy is founded on far more than that. Our joy, (and the slander we receive),<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Saying that anything negative said about you is slander makes it easy to do whatever you want without having to acknowledge and deal with the consequences of your words and actions.

Suggesting that everyone who speaks negatively of you is motivated by jealousy or hatred of your "perfect love" (I thought that only came from God, by the way) that you claim your community shares, is not a constructive way to deal with criticism.

It certainly is not how Jesus handled criticism. He confronted and addressed it. He didn't evade, or come up with lame excuses. He put His life on the line.

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is rooted in the simple fact that we forsake everything to love one another.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Wrong. You have not forsaken love, for one. So, scratch "everything".

You obviously have not forsaken message board posting either.

What else haven't you forsaken? I bet you still wear clothes, eat food and watch TV. What is your explanation for this?

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All we are doing is surrendering all, for the One who surrendered all for us, in order to love one another just as He loved.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

That is not all you are doing. You are also posting messages to message boards. When will you surrender your message board time?

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Nothing else will bring about the end of this wicked age; and we are honored and rejoice to bear all manner of insult to bring about our Father's purpose.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

Rejoicing at a negative accusation does not address it. It is a method of evasion. Jesus was never evasive. Why are you?

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It is quite amazing, though, to see that our Master Yahshua's words are totally true; all you have to do to attract all manner of hatred and slander is dare to give all to love one another:<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

It is almost as if you believe that by restating the same content in different ways that you will convince someone of the truth of it.

My question is, since you have obviously been thrown into a demonic rage over these accusations, what are they? What are you accused of doing? What "insults" and "slander" have been put out about you? Since they will not affect you in any way other than to make you mindlessly rejoice at their existence, please post the accusations so people can decide for themselves. Put the information out there, then leave it up to God to sway people's hearts. He does not need you to do that for Him.

Everything you have said defines "the other" as evil, corrupt and wrong and your way as the One True Path. It does not convey a confidence in your beliefs and ideas, but it does set off warning bells.

Forsake and surrender this message board please. Thank you.

(Message edited by elray on January 26, 2005)

elray (elray)

01-26-2005, 04:08 PM

The "one star" ratings on my posts I am receiving are rooted in the simple fact that I forsake everything to give tough love to other posters.

All I am doing is surrendering all, for the One who surrendered all for us, in order to love one another just as He loved.

Nothing else will bring about the end of this wicked age; and I am honored and rejoice to bear all manner of low star ratings, to bring about my Father's purpose.

It is quite amazing, though, to see that our Master Yahshua's words are totally true; all you have to do to attract all manner of hatred and one star post ratings is dare to give all to love one another:

John 15:17 These things I command you, that you love one another.
John 15:18 ¶ “If the world [gives you one star], you know that it [gave Me one star] before it [gave you one star].
John 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world [gives you one star].

ball_of_fluff (ball_of_fluff)

01-27-2005, 12:21 AM

Doesn't matter. It's off topic for this section of the board.

sylvies_friend (sylvies_friend)

01-27-2005, 02:53 AM

BoF,

the sad thing is that the original poster has never gone back to the original text and found out the real meaning of what he espouses as "SOURCE".

Take a look at Donad Knuth's lectures "God and Computers" on the thread God and Computers (http://technetcast.ddj.com/tnc_catalog.html?item_id=421) and what he went through just to get a half-way intelligable baseline for the relevant 3:16.