The Blood of Christ

[missylula (missylula)]

There's this girl on my website who says she belongs to a religion called 'The Blood of Christ' in which she says her father believes he is descended from Christ and Mary Magdelen. She says she's called a Jinn or Aniken. She directed me to this passage of the bible :: The Nephilim were on the earth in thoes days-and also afterwards-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them.They were the heroes of old, men of renown. :: which I couldn't find in the KJV which I use, but I could find it in The New Internation Versions. She says that passage proves her religion is true because the children of the Nephilim were called Jinns or Anikens (she says). She also says that the Jinns will be the only ones left on earth when the rapture comes. I think her father is crazy and she is getting it from him. She also says Bush is one to, and I said no. Other religions don't bother me but this one seems a lot like a mini-cult.

[doug (doug)]

Perhaps they are descendants of Nephilim but not of Christ Jesus. I believe the term "men of great renown" is referring to tyrants and not men who love God. Christ Jesus did not come to procreate but to start a new man. I believe the scripture says that the first man, Adam was a living soul but the second Adam, the last Adam, Christ Jesus became a life giving spirit.
Any teaching that says Christ and Mary Magdelen had children is heresy and blasphemes the name of Christ Jesus. Though I don't see it as blaspheming the holy spirit it is definitely a slur on the Son of man, Christ Jesus.

[wyoming (wyoming)]

I can't believe that a true Christian would believe that Jesus would procreat. It's blasphamy! It sounds like New Age or Eastern Religion.

The Nephilim were giants but there are two schools of thought -- physical giants vs. intellectual giants. Some say that Goliath was a Nephilim.

[friend (friend)]

Wyoming...why is it blasphemy to think that Jesus would procreate? I am not saying he did at all, but I can't understand the connection with blasphamey and procreation.

Are you saying that sex (leading to the creation of a human life) would be sinful?

Thanks!

[doug (doug)]

Heresy because it undermines who Jesus actually is. Blasphemy because it is a lie connecting Jesus with procreation which undermines who he is. There is no connection between blasphemy and sex in itself.

[arron (arron)]

TRULY OUR LORD WOULD NOT PROCREATE AT ALL HE CAME TO DIE FOR US NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN BY US
THAT IS FOOL... FOOLISHNESS

[friend (friend)]

So Doug, Jesus could not procreate even if he wanted to while in human form? And why would that undermine who he is?

Arron...why would he not have children?

To both of you...I do not think Jesus procreated while on the earth. I do however find it problematic that the possiblity was not there. He was human in every aspect. My opinion is that Jesus just didn't have children. He could have...he might have...but he chose not to.

I hope you can see where I am coming from on this and not read to much into what I am talking about.

Blessings to you both.

In the Light!

[david_alexander (david_alexander)]

Friend, I agree completely. Yahshua was a man just like us in all respects but sin. He certainly could have fathered children physically. The only reason He didn't is because it was not one of the works that His Father gave Him to do. He only did the works prepared for Him by His Father, never once acting independently; and that was not one of the things the Father had for Him. But physically, He certainly could have done so, and was beyond doubt tempted to do so. He had the same natural physical needs and desires that any normal man would have. But He desired above all else to do His Abba's will and bring His Abba's Kingdom to the earth, and He willingly laid aside whatever did not lay on that path.

No one who is not taking on the same mind is really His disciple. The pupil when fully taught will be as his Teacher.

Anyone who wants to understand the true cost of accessing the forgiveness purchased by the blood of Christ should carefully read the teaching on
www.TheLitmusTest.org (http://www.TheLitmusTest.org)

peace, david

[doug (doug)]

friend
I am not saying he was not capable of procreating but that he didn't because it would have been in conflict with his mission just as he could have become a buisness man if he chose to.

[doug (doug)]

RE: The above post by DAVID ALAXANDER
This is a teaching from the communities Apostle "Yoneq", otherwise known as Eugene Elbert Spriggs, that David Alaxander in his above post is prosletising for.

For more info see "Twelve Tribes" on this web site.

<font color="ff0000">Execution of Justice
(Letter from Elbert concerning discipline and the seed of Abraham)
The reason Isaac was so willing to let his father sacrifice him was because he had
been raised his whole life knowing that he did not belong to himself, but belonged to his
father, and he was not living for himself, but living for his father. Hephzibah is coming to
understand that she is living for her father and belongs to him. The other day she was
having great difficulty being obedient to his command: not to suck her thumb in bed.
Elbert asked her to stick out her thumb because he was going to cut it off. He took a
huge pair of scissors and came toward her. She was terrified, but (after receiving her
discipline) she willingly stuck out her thumb to be cut off rather than let it cause her to
stumble in her obedience to her father. Elbert didn’t actually cut it off, but he wants
Hephzibah to understand that it is better to have your hand cut off now rather than later.
He wants her to be saved.
It is absolutely necessary to raise our children to know that they do not belong to
themselves, but to their father. How else can they believe that they don’t belong to
themselves except by training them as our Heavenly Father trains us to believe this. We
only “regain our true life” if we lose our false and criminal life. Whoever wants to save
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his life will lose it, and whoever loses it for My sake shall find it. Abraham received back
the promise only after he had killed his only son the only son who could bring about the
promise. Abraham had faith to surrender his only heir. Abraham was tested. He endured
under trial to see whether he would obey (Heb 11:17-19; Gen 22:1; Jms 1:12). Abraham
obeyed by faith for he heard God say, “Abraham, take your son, your only son Isaac,
whom you love, and go sacrifice him.”
The error of “the local church” and many churches is in allowing doctrine to
substitute for obedience. We can do as they say, but not as they do, for they do not truly
discern the Body of Messiah though they have much wonderful doctrine. Without seeing
Gen 18:19, the Body of Messiah doesn’t make sense.</font>
Note: Elbert is not the little girls father but is the apostle of the community. I don't see a close resemblance to his lying to a little girl and teaching the faith that Abraham had in Isaac.

David responded on Dec 21
<font color="0000ff">I don't know anything about the above...but I DO KNOW that the truth that sets men free can be found at www.TheLitmusTest.org (http://www.TheLitmusTest.org)
It is for Christians Only. Truth will always be attacked. Those who are wise will not be put off by such things. The fact is, anyone who wants to see the fruit of our lives can visit us at anytime; and see that our children are some of the most wonderful on the whole earth. As the Word says, "wisdom is justified by her children". Sincerely, david</font>

My reply Dec 22
David
<font color="0000ff">I don't know anything about the above…</font>
Are you saying you don't know if Sprigs taught that and if it is one of the communities teachings or you don't know if there is anything wrong with what was alleged in the teaching CD that Jacob took from the community?

[doug (doug)]

"Yahshua" is from the same community as David Alexander
"Yahshua"
Was your apostle speaking from the holy spirit when he threatened with a large pair of scissors to cut off the terrified little girls thumb and did lying to her to scare her teach her the faith of Isaac with Abraham? Is that why Isaac trusted his father? Because someone terrified him with a lie?

[sharon (sharon)]

Doug... Thank you for your commitment to truth.

[ex_yathed (ex_yathed)]

ex_yathed (ex_yathed)
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 7:12 pm:

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I just saw on another page of the Religious Cults and Sects page that David Alexander(aka Daveed Derush) is evangelizing (recruiting) all over this web site with links to their newest "Free Papers"(Litmus Test). Its from a computer in Georgia so he is either at their Savannah or Brunswick community.

So, if you dont know, the Twelve Tribes are considered a high control destructive fundamentalist group (cult) by countless professionals and Cult experts.

[ex_yathed (ex_yathed)]

As you can see, David Derush has taken my warnings to all the boards as a chance to recruit for his cult which claims they are the Only Ones and the Only Way and if your not with them, your going to the Lake of Fire for eternity or to the first death to pay for your own sins if you can. They are just like the rest of the cults on the factnet boards.
To see both sides of the story go to
http://www.twelvetribes-ex.org/

or if you wish, you can contact me personally at exyathed@yahoo.com

[dondi (dondi)]

Look at the first post and then think of what his friend said " She also says that the Jinns will be the only ones left on earth when the rapture comes." Aren't those left when the rapture comes going to be the unbelieving?

[cybermom (cybermom)]

Jesus wouldn't have children because He was never married - he would have committed the sin of fornication.

Some of this stuff sounds like it's directly from <u>the Davinci Code</u>, which is unbiblical and FICTION.

And please, yahshua, remember what website you're on. We're not buying into your garbage. Go sell it somewhere else.