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johncody

03-27-2006, 05:42 PM

WE MUST STAY HOLY,
to fight the good fight

We stay holy by continually washing the stain of sin away from us through constant repentance, asking the Father forgiveness by Jesus whever we feel we have said or thought or done something wrong.

Repentance means turning away from any path (of sin) we might be headed in and going in the opposite direction, making a complete 180 degree turn and going back towards God.

We do this with five simple words.

FATHER FORGIVE ME BY JESUS
(prone forwards in deep supplication)

Or by simply saying,,,, , , Forgive me Father by Jesus

Ideally, you should be on your knees, hands together, head bowed when repenting but it really does not matter if you are not on your knees when you ask God the Father forgiveness. BUT! Kneeling, hands together head bowed is almost always required when the Lord your God is nearby (in wait) to see you face to face though. (the bishop messenger will tell you so) Normally, He will not enter in till you are in ready position

Walking the path,
Normally a pathway is walked one at a time and that is JUST how I feel we should come to GOD. One at a time,,, , one on one

As you might already know, People are never the same in a group. Even my best friend behaves differently when there is just one other person in the room.

But if you are in a group talking (praying) to God it is always best if ALL are of one accord in complete agreement with one another, which is almost impossible these days.

God Bless

PEACE

godchild

03-28-2006, 11:13 AM

When's the last time you got on YOUR knees? We don't need you on factnet to tell us how to pray.

david_munson

03-28-2006, 04:54 PM

John,
God hears us no matter what physical position we might be in.
He is ever present.
He dwells inside His children.
Making a law out of kneeling does nothing in the Lord's eyes.It's a matter of the heart,Rev.3:20.

Come as you are.Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Why add man's traditions to simple faith?

Dave
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godchild

03-28-2006, 05:07 PM

Jesus didn't interview His disciples before calling them to be fishers of men. He simply said, "Follow me." His commandments are eternal; they haven't changed today.

abiyah

03-28-2006, 05:59 PM

godchild wrote:
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QUOTE " Jesus didn't interview His disciples before calling them to be fishers of men. He simply said, "Follow me." " END
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http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gifGood Morning to you Vivian !

Excellant observation, most would find this
to be what is known as " Predestination ". These men in which Christ called and said
" follow Me ".... where "chosen" to the service of The Lord, for they did not consider, nor did they ponder His call..... there was no delay when He called unto them, for they dropped that which they were doing and STRAIGHTWAY, meaning immediately, they followed Him, because they were "predestined", already "chosen" from before, "elected" to serve Him, and be witnesses to The Truth, The Light that would save souls.
There was no need for Christ to interview them because HE ALREADY KNEW THEM AND HAD ALREADY CHOSEN THEM to THIS CALL ! I find it much like Jeremiah... he who was chosen, predestined to be a prophet of The LORD even before Jeremiah was ever in his mother's womb [ Jeremiah 1:4-5 ]. Chosen, predestined to the service of The LORD and just as God knew Jeremiah BEFORE he was formed in his mother's womb, He also knew these that He called and said " Follow Me, and I WILL make you fisher's of men. " Because He knew they could do it ! He had already chosen them to do this. And that is simply because God's children were with God before they were born of woman, [ with the exception of the fallen angels who refused to be born of woman Jude 1 ] He knows each and everyone of us, because we were with Him,..... this is how God knew these men would be His disciples. He chose them while they were still with God; And it was these disciples that would weave that net of Truth over the world, casting God's Word, which is ALL True, and pulling men to God, to pull them into The Kingdom of Heaven with that net of Truth. They were chosen, predestined, elected by God to do His Will, and serve Him.

Matthew 20:16
".... For MANY are called [ called to salvation ], BUT FEW AE CHOSEN. "

These disciples were those that God had chosen and/or elected to do His will, they were predestined indeed.

Abiyah

johncody

03-28-2006, 08:45 PM

John,
God hears us no matter what physical position we might be in.
He is ever present.
He dwells inside His children.
Making a law out of kneeling does nothing in the Lord's eyes.It's a matter of the heart,Rev.3:20.

Come as you are.Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Why add man's traditions to simple faith?

Dave

I was just giving and account
and of my personal witness

Believe me http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

YOU WILL be on your knees when you see Jesus Christ KING of kings and LORD of lords,

whether you like it or not http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

For every knee shall bow!!!!!

I just thought I might make it a bit easier for certain folks to be one step ahead and be most ready for (if) He sends His messenger bishop (to you), because that is what the bishop will tell you to do.
(At least, normally, on the first visit)

We must never forget, that Christ Jesus can come to us today Spiritually and (for the most part) invisably

Yes, we can masion with Him even today. He is our rest our Sabbath so that every day is a good day.

IT IS in His Second Advent that Jesus Christ physically and formally comes in ALL glory

What I learned was NOT a tradition of men

But from Christ Himself

PEACE

arron

03-28-2006, 09:30 PM

due to a medical condition i can no longer get on my kness like i used to, am i lost because i cant, i dont think so. i know i am saved and pray standing sitting or laying. GOD is interested in my heart not my way of praying.

david_munson

03-28-2006, 09:45 PM

It's fine to pray on your knees if you desire to or feel led to but What if I'm driving?Wouldn't that be dangerous?

Yes when Christ returns in Glory every knee will bow to Him as Lord of lords and King of kings and every tongue will confess that He alone is Lord.
No disagreement there.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

I like to walk when I pray.
I used to pray in a cemetery as a way to identify with my co-death burial and resurrection,having been placed in Christ during His Crucifixion.

As long as we pray we are focused in the right direction.Yes?

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godchild

03-29-2006, 02:09 AM

trent, No man will be forced to bow, every man shall bow because they will recognise finally that He is who He said He is, the I AM.

I think arron had it right when he said people confuse visions and dreams with the results of eating sauer kraut and pinto beans.

godchild

03-29-2006, 02:16 AM

trent said "we must stay holy". There are NONE righteous, (clean, pure, godly, perfect, holy), no, not one. There will be none holy until that which is Perfect has come. (When Jesus comes again to gather His own.)

abi, K.I.S.S.

danispeachy

03-29-2006, 04:40 AM

Funny I should see this post after I plastered prayers on other threads. LOL

I pray kneeling, sitting, standing, walking, laying, & driving. I pray in the shower, at my desk, as I cook. I pray when I am blessed to observe the Lords creation, a sunset, children laughing, a clear starry night, a warm sunny day, a crisp snowy day. I "Pray without ceasing". 1Thes 5:17

david_munson

03-29-2006, 03:15 PM

Danispeachy,
It's also funny that in my devotion this very morning 1Thes.5:17 was the topic.

Isn't the Lord cool that way?
To pull things together so that His children recognize His work in their lives at certain moments?
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

God is LOVE.
Dave}

abiyah

03-29-2006, 03:31 PM

David Munson WROTE:
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QUOTE " Isn't the Lord cool that way?
To pull things together so that His children recognize His work in their lives at certain moments? " End Quote
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http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gifGood Morning to you David !

YES INDEED ! I do love so much when that happens.. it is very cool ! And I get excited by that; The Lord is very Awesome.

God Bless
Abiyah

johncody

03-29-2006, 04:14 PM

I am re-posting this http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

bowed when repenting but it really does not matter if you are not on your knees when you ask God the Father forgiveness. BUT! Kneeling, hands together head bowed is almost always required when the Lord your God is nearby (in wait) to see you face to face though. (the bishop messenger will tell you so) Normally, He will not enter in till you are in ready position

I am not kidding, this is no joke http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

I am sorry if I am not what you expect? I am only human. I am not perfect

OK?

We are entering into a very Unique and peculiar time unlike anything ever occurring in human history

I would ask my best friend to do something about the troll but He basically says expect these sorts of attacks and things it should be a comfort to you letting you know you are being effective, not a source of anger?

LUKE

LUKE

May the 4th be with you (lol) http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

Now, that was being funny !!!! sorry cant help myself sometimes http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gifhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

God bless

PEACE

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Luke 10:19

david_munson

03-29-2006, 07:09 PM

John,
I was under the impression that a conversation was in progress that might have some debatable points to consider as well as some points of agreement.Not an attack on someone.

There is something that I am concerned about.
"(the bishop messenger will tell you so)"
As I am uncertain as to what you mean by "the bishop messenger" could you explain what you mean when using that term?

There is no other mediator between God and man but Christ Jesus the Lamb that was slain.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

There is no mediator between us and Christ but the Holy Spirit dwelling within each believer.
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Looks like we're invited to supper with Him.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

God is fun as well as Love,
Dave

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johncody

03-29-2006, 07:40 PM

Not an attack on someone.

There is something that I am concerned about.
"(the bishop messenger will tell you so)"
As I am uncertain as to what you mean by "the bishop messenger" could you explain what you mean when using that term?

Dave,
I never thought of you as a troll?

I was talking about a certain crazy lady that has it in her mind to cause as much discord on the Murray strings as she can

OK?

Messenger is simply another name for Angel

The Herald Messenger looks like a bishop. He gets you ready to receive the Lord God your maker.

GOD is a Royal Lord King, He is the KING of Heaven

Its proper etiquette and protocol for you or me to me on the Knees hands held together HEAD BOWED when the LORD your GOD enters into the room.

Keep your head bowed, dont look at Him directly unless He tells you to.

It is entirely your choice.
(I learned the hard way)

It can be easy or hard, either way. But if you fail to follow the messengers advice, you will find yourself in proper position after He enters in.

I found myself in terrible jaybird-jeopardy (in dire difficulty) from my sins face-down prone and quite dumbstruck, at least the first time anyway. (He touched my hand turned me over and He lifted me up later though)

I like how you use GOD s Word to back up what you say

By the way, I have read GOD s Word many times

AND

Jesus is the living Word http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

God bless

PEACE

david_munson

03-30-2006, 02:30 PM

I don't know where you learned that but it is very dangerous to allow angels to intervein between us and the Lord as well as very rare.

Their ministery is not as you say when you mention the "biship messenger."
None are between us and the Lord in our relationship with Him.
Come as you are freely He has told us.
Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

We must always be careful about angels and have warning to that effect.
2 Corinthians 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Guard your heart.

Dave
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godchild

03-30-2006, 03:41 PM

I am copying (my statement) this from the other 'john cody parker, eli, TRENTWOODARD thread:
In fact, let me state here and now: upon using the search tools factnet administration has provided, I have found that many of the am/sc people who come to these threads proclaiming they are followers of Christ, have in fact been posting under other names for YEARS (one over 5,000 posts) on kkk, aryan nations, and the government, military, and other areas of factnet espousing their anti-government, anti-Jew, anti-democracy, anti-black beliefs with a far more fervent voice than they proclaim here. It is very easy to find information, if you know where to look. I am just sorry these foolish, ignorant people refuse or are mentally limited so that they cannot find these things out for themselves. These are definite signs of brainwashing, coersion, group speek, cultic behaviors.

It is my firm belief that factnet serves a very good purpose, and anyone who is not FIRM in their FAITH in God through the Holy Spirit should not come here if they fear these people. I will fear NO EVIL, for HE is with me, even to the end of my life or this world, whichever comes first, praise God!

johncody

03-30-2006, 05:49 PM

I don't know where you learned that but it is very dangerous to allow angels to intervein between us and the Lord as well as very rare

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I see I am waisting my time with you, it is too much for you to handle so I suggest you contiue being paranoid and afraid like a little bunny rabbit

(I had such high hopes for you)

Hello? Jesus Christ IS God http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

The messenger was sent to simply prepare me for something rather intense (back in Feb, 97).

The LORD GOD is full of mercy!

He simply sent the messenger (for my sake) out of Love for me, as we are and have been friends for a very long LONG time. I had simply forgotten my best friend Jesus Christ and that I had known GOD from before this Age or foundation of this World (from before this 2nd age)

If you do not believe me I couldnt care less. (but I really do care) As I am getting rather used to encountering those that claim Jesus Christ (claim to be Christ-men) but do not know Jesus nor have ever met Christ in some way or another. (strange days indeed!)

We, as Christians
must never forget that Christ Jesus can come to us today Spiritually and for the most part invisibly. Yes, we can mansion with Jesus even today. Jesus Christ IS our rest our Sabbath.

It is in His Second Advent that Jesus Christ comes physically and formally as KING of kings and LORD of lords.

AND

I am doing this only because I believe in NOT hiding my light under a bush but to let it shine for ALL to see.

I do not fear the Devil.
in fact, he runs from me every ding-dong cling-clang time I see him and get up on my feet to face him

This we must stay holy/stay virgins series was ment for the Great-trib volunteer army anyway

Among many gracious honors we (the bruisers)
get to gather the tares

God bless

PEACE

johncody

03-30-2006, 06:09 PM

By the way, Dave

The Herarld Messenger was sent only on the first crossroads visit. The crossroad was set and told to me by my maker (GOD) back when I was just a child of 5 years old. In late September of 65

Christ Jesus is IN me now and forever and never further from me than my our right hand.

The messenger helpers/Heralds (training wheels) are off now and Jesus Christ comes (to me) with His touch of my hand.

God bless, Dave http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

PEACE

danispeachy

03-31-2006, 03:31 PM