Murray Prophecy [Archive]

watchman_2

02-02-2007, 08:22 PM

That is an allegation that floats around on many anti-SC websites. Of course, I have never seen any proof thereof and I don't know anyone that has seen any proof of it. I have only been a SCer since 1995.

Knowing PM, I highly doubt that he would make such a prediction because he plainly teaches that no man knoweth the date of Christ's return.

He teaches the 1981 date [erroneously in my opinion] as a benchmark date--not a prophecy. Based upon the anti-SC vitriol out there, it wouldn't surprise me that this is just another false allegation. Most of these false allegations are generated by the same folks.

godchild

02-03-2007, 06:35 AM

blue, You can verify this at theseason.org. Go to the fig tree, scan down the page. Look for the thread "We have a marriage this year".

From a member's post there:

Re: "we have a marriage this year"
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i also got that the timing of this event, a marrige in time from the setting up of the final generation, through daniels 2300 days = 2114-7=2007+5 months and the 40 yr generation of the temple 0f 1967? + 40 = 2007
BENCHMARK!!!
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Note he/she used the same word used back in 81 that watchman just did: Benchmark. The last prophecy failed, we'll have to wait and see on this one. scer's deny am calls himself Elias, but a lot of members at the fig tree say they think he is. am the prophet.

godchild

02-03-2007, 06:45 AM

The season was set up (according to them) for the study of God's Word with the Shepherds Chapel. I guess the money isn't rolling in fast enough. One gal mentioned an am study. Other members asked her to share it with them. She said she was told she couldn't, that they had to order the tape. The tapes aren't free. They even asked her again, but she told them "Order the tape, that's all I can tell you."

Now what is the purpose of a site for study with sc if the members can't share what am teaches? A lot of stuff is posted, I guess the moderator must have a hard time keeping up. The photos posted that I saw yesterday showing Barbra Streisand, Steven Speilberg, and Bette Midler under the "Kenite" threads was gone today; coincidentally after I mentioned it here. I think factnet has become worrisome for some people. I sure hope so. That means we are doing good work.

smyrna

02-03-2007, 08:52 AM

Godchild's "work" is manufactured from lies, misrepresentations, and deceit.

Since Godchild is known to make up things, perhaps she can provide some documentation which would prove that there were any photos of the celebrities she claims were posted at the season.

If not, I would seriously doubt her, as she has clearly shown to be a liar.

As for Bluewater,let me remind him that when he puts forth an allegation, evidence does not consist of "I read somewhere that murray said something like..."

Finally, Godchild is apparently running out of material directly from the SC to whine and cry about, so now she is scanning the SC supporter's sites looking for stuff to whine, cry, point fingers at, misrepresent, twist, and otherwise feed her need for venting rage at hate.

I don't know why she continues to criticize the SC, because her track record now includes denying satan exists, doubting the Virgin Birth, and agreeing (with "illogical_al")that Moses did not write the Torah. Sure sounds hypocritical to me.

yaqakallah

02-03-2007, 08:52 PM

You know, I find it funny that people look to members of an organization like a Church and beleive what some of their misguided, possibly mentally ill people say as 'truth'. I would imagine in any Church organization there will be a few who misiterpret what their Church or minister stands for/teaches.

You know, like how Godchild 'beleived' for 25 years(or was it 25 years ago) that she was an elite member of God, belonging to the 'only true Church' on the face of the earth....ie, The Morman church. That she believed that a man, Joseph Smith was 'the Prophet of God' and that he alone 'saw' God and Jesus face to face and that it was his destiney to set us all 'right' with the 'truth'. That the Bible was corrupt and he had to re-write it. That blacks were the son's of Ham and cursed for life. That Blacks were not allowed to be member's of 'God's true Church'. That polygimey is OK in God's eyes and it was OK for Morman's to murder anyone who despised them. that Morman's were the only one's who could save the dead from eternal damnation thru secret rituials which entailed praying for the dead. That you were not 'really' married unless wed in the morman Temple and sealed for all eternity in Heaven were you could regain your sexual relations after your earthly death....I could go on and on......BUT, I think we all can 'relate' to where I am going with this....

Hey godchild, do you still wear your 'secret' Morman underwear? You know, the one's that protect your Chastity and from the evil workings of Satan???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

smyrna

02-04-2007, 01:49 PM

Kim wrote:

"Hey godchild, do you still wear your 'secret' Morman underwear? You know, the one's that protect your Chastity and from the evil workings of Satan???"http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif

Naw, she doesn't have to, now that she believes satan does not exist!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Excellent, Excellent post Kim! It shows Godchild's hypocrisy to a T.

skooter942000

02-04-2007, 07:26 PM

special underwear?

- Your kidding right?

smyrna

02-05-2007, 02:25 PM

Hey folks, check out this thread, the one Godchild is recoiling from like it is hellfire itself!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

I am going to get UNLIMITED mileage out of this!

Thanks Kim!

godchild

02-05-2007, 08:46 PM

I think I have made it plain that I left the mormon church 21 years ago. I was a member from the time I was 13. Being a child, I wanted to please my parents, naturally, and joined with them. I left in 1986 when I truly understood they teach that men will be gods. They don't teach that to most mormons; its not something they discuss in sunday school class. In the mormon church, you must be considered "worthy" to learn all their cultic doctrines. I was never considered that worthy because I seldom attended sacrament meetings, I smoked cigs and drank alcohol. Although I read the bom once, I found it to be a boring story about groups of men fighting other groups of men over and over again, having little to do with Christianity. It talked about Jesus visiting America after His resurrection (similar to the sc belief that the apostle Jeremiah went to Britian or Ireland, whichever). They also taught (as scer's do) that we were spirit children in heaven before coming to earth. (not unlike scer's they also believe they are the "true Jews". Much of mormon doctrine was rascist. I was raised in a rascist family, and never felt comfortable about that. The older I got, the more I realized the evil in that kind of teaching and thinking. One more thing similar in mormon and sc teaching is that js and am both used/use the Book of Enoch and other books not considered inspired by God.

Being an "unworthy mormon" I never went to the temple. In the first place, I lived far distant from any temple. So no, I've never worn the undergarments, that I agree are ridiculous. I had a spiritual awakening in 1986, even though I thank God that as a child I went to a Baptist Church with my grandmother, and was first baptized there, so I considered myself a Christian. God has dealt with me mercifully, and I am blessed every day for leaving that cult and standing against all cults who preach "man" instead of God. I will be happy to answer any further questions.

smyrna

02-05-2007, 09:47 PM

Godchild wrote: "I think I have made it plain that I left the mormon church 21 years ago."

That doesn't matter any more than what occurred in Murray's past doesn't matter to you, that you choose that as a new way to attack him.

Godchild also wrote: "One more thing similar in mormon and sc teaching is that js and am both used/use the ***Book of Enoch*** and other books not considered inspired by God.

More insane ignorance. The Book of Enoch is part of the CANON of the Ethiopian Church:

"Whilst this book (Enoch)does not form part of the Canon of Scripture for the larger Christian Churches, various groups, including the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, regard parts or all of 1 Enoch to be inspired Scripture." Source: Wilkepdia

Let me also remind the "scholarly" Godchild that the Book of Enoch was quoted in Jude, a New Testament book.

The rest of Godchild's post is a rambling of excuses. I'm sure she still harbors those strange beliefs, maybe even practices the rituals.

After all, I have just as much a right to speculate about the repurcussions of her involvement with the Mormons as she does with her clownish "research' and subsequent insane speculations regarding Pastor Murray.

Most people think Mormons are whackos. Perhaps Godchild, being an admitted "unworthy mormom" because she is a boozer, can be seen as even a bit more looney than they are.

Godchild also wrote: "I have not and will not place my name on the membership rolls of any man-made church or organization."

Good! Sounds like you are ready to join the only Church actually founded by Jesus Himself.

"Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church."

After all, Christs's Church is not made up of a bunch of Godchilds roaming the Internet claiming private revelation, as she and Frankie do. It is clear they consider themselves Biblical authorites, as they toss around the term "heretic" at anyone who does not agree with them.

And in Godchild's case, she is moving farther and farther away from the accepted Christian doctrines of MOST if not ALL Churches.

I wonder what reception she would get, if she started running aorund telling different Churches that Moses did not write the Torah, that satan really does not exist, or that Joseph was really Jesus's true father, even Mary admitted it!

Oh yeah, I know, Godchild later found out that he was Jesus' "legal" father, but not until after she openly doubted the Virgin birth for many days. Just a digression to show how unlearned she is, in addition to my comments above.

david_munson

02-06-2007, 03:04 PM

I think I have read this on three different threads.
Either that or I'm experiencing deja vu.(sp)

Either that or I'm experiancing deja vu.(sp)

Either that or ,,,well you get the idea.

LOL

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abiyah

02-06-2007, 04:19 PM

godchild WROTE:
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QUOTE: " think I have made it plain that I left the mormon church 21 years ago. I was a member from the time I was 13. Being a child, I wanted to please my parents, naturally, and joined with them. " END QUOTE
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http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gifOh yes Vivian... I do recall reading some of what you have written here in your above post at your blogg; However, I do not recall you mentioning 'special under garments' to keep off the devil and evil.... Hmmmmm...... Is that Biblical ? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gifAgain... thanks for sharing.

Abiyah " )

godchild

02-07-2007, 08:47 PM

As I stated before "So no, I've never worn the undergarments, that I agree are ridiculous." mormons think of it as the Bible saying to "put on the whole armor of God". They, like scer's, have taken something figurative and made it literal. The Bible clearly describes what the armor is, and it is not some "physical clothing".

yaqakallah

02-08-2007, 04:53 AM

I think the Morman undergarments were just another way of controling the members and making them feel special. Just like the wearing of the white robes in Temple services.

Well over a year ago, maybe 2, I tried every link I could find showing a picture of the undergarments and the funny thing is, each of those links were dead links. Like the church was going full force to hide them from the public.(of course this is just my opinion)

As for the Morman church being similar to SC I really do not see were you are making that comparrison.(though you may be a better judge of that issue since you were actually a member) I did alot of study on the Morman Church in 2005. I had befriended a member and his family and wanted to understand their way of loving God and Christ. Of what I understood, they place the BOM, D & C and Pearl of Great Price over and above the Holy Bible as well as claiming they are the inspired words of God. Not only that, the fact that Smith claimed to see God and Jesus face to face just screams Matthew 24 were Jesus warned us there would be those claiming just what Smith claimed.(I think he was referring to the Morman Church )The Mormans think New Jerusalem will be a town in America.(used to know the town,state but I forgot). Anyway, I see no comparrison of the 2. The Chapel is but one. The Morman Church is global, prosperous. and one cannot think of Utah without thinking 'Morman". They even brag about their wealth and success using it as leverage that they have God's favor, which we all know is unbiblical. Christ NEVER promised wealth to his followers.

smyrna

02-10-2007, 06:22 AM

Now you see how Godchild operates.(again)She'd rather talk about whether she wore magic underwear or not than to explain how she screwed up her accusation about the Book Of Enoch, or how tlak about her past should be off limits to us, but it is quite ok for her to base her latest attacks on Pastor Murray on his past.

Of course, there is still no peep coming out of her as to her involvement in denying the existence of satan, or that Moses wrote the Torah.

On both issues she agreed with "illogical_al" and his leanings towards quite liberal theological positions, which is certainly a paradox, considering her past reliance on traditional, conservative psotiions, such as a talking snake in Eden, a boat that can hold more animals than the San Diego zoo, burning chariots with horses on fire that can carry a man into the clouds, etc.

All those issues, and all she wants to talk about are her panties.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Shameless hypocrisy, silly diversions, are all part of the weak arsenal of Godchild and the detractors.

godchild

02-10-2007, 08:56 AM

Look at what these stupid scer's want to talk about.

smyrna

Kim wrote:

"Hey godchild, do you still wear your 'secret' Morman underwear? You know, the one's that protect your Chastity and from the evil workings of Satan???"

Naw, she doesn't have to, now that she believes satan does not exist!

Excellent, Excellent post Kim! It shows Godchild's hypocrisy to a T.

skooter942000

special underwear?
- Your kidding right?

smyrna

Hey folks, check out this thread, the one Godchild is recoiling from like it is hellfire itself!

I am going to get UNLIMITED mileage out of this!

Thanks Kim!

abiyah

Oh yes Vivian... I do recall reading some of what you have written here in your above post at your blogg; However, I do not recall you mentioning 'special under garments' to keep off the devil and evil.... Hmmmmm......
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Who would have something like this on the brain but these dolts who get off on listening to am tell his perverted/false stories about a three-some between Adam, Eve and a serpent. They call it the "serpent seed doctrine". All am's little figs are getting their fake preachers license's from the internet and going around telling people the world is ending in 2007. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif All you who don't follow sc, according to them, are going to be sucking satan's tit.

godchild

02-10-2007, 09:12 AM

You want to know why they're all getting their fake license?

So, unlike the rest of you hard working people, they don't want to pay taxes.

This is one of them, from a website for am/sc by yet another member:

"Though in Carle's heart, the Father had ordained him several years ago, in 2003, Carle Towns was officially ordained under the law of man through United Christian Ministries International."

Check out UCMI and this is what you'll find.

Cheap internet preacher's license's. Why. This is why:
United Christian Ministries InternationalChristian Ordination, OnLine, Nondenominational, Free!

On their faq, they explain that they DO charge a fee for the paperwork. Phoney garbage! Leave it to scer's to buy this.

But the only ministerial license their leader am has is from "Soldiers of the Cross", signed by Kenneth Goff, communist/neo-nazi.

yaqakallah

02-10-2007, 09:20 AM

Agreed! But these were no ordinary panties. Certainly not feminine. If I recall correctly, they were made of sturdy cotton and resmebled men's boxers and included an undershirt of the same material which had a high neck to remind women not to wear low-cut, revealing tops which showed skin below the neck and were long in the waist to cover the waistline in the event a woman raised her arms and her outer garment raised up to reveal skin.

Both of these garments were required for both male and female and each had an emblem/logo on them to ward of evil spirits. The logo is secret amongst their members. This is what I( was web searching for. Just what was used as the logo. I would find it most interesting to track this down and research were it originated and what it meant.

Now I am not calling godchild a lier, BUT, as a child of 13 it would be highly unlikely that her Mom would purchase store bought undies as this would have been against the Church which she claims her mother was fully devoted to. Unless she was babysitting(to young to get a legal job for a Co.)to raise money to purchase regular undies and did her own laundry. I highly doubt she would be able to not be forced to wear the Mormon undergarments. Of course, being a child and wanting to please her Mom I see no wrong doing on her part about wearing them then. Course she claims they were ridiculous and she did not wear them. So, she either lied to us(no need to, we respect kids who respect their parents wishes)or she dishonored her Mom by refusing(breaking the 5th). Either way, I say come clean and tell the truth. If you have, then repent of breaking the 5th and forget about it. Heck, what kid did not break the 5th?

godchild,

Would you mind providing a link to see the emblem used on the undergarments or describe what it looked like please?

godchild

02-10-2007, 09:22 AM

More on am/sc newest false prophesy (since his 1981 date didn't come to pass):

FROM THE FIG TREE
Re: Overtime.
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Could be next year. Im not saying Murray's calculations are 100% correct about the cleansing of the sanctuary (see passover "VISION" study in Bible Bookmark section), or that it does not just mark a type, but note how he says 2007 + 5 months..could be 4/5 months into 2008.

Just a thought.
Tom

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/sad.gif downag says somethings happening and he's anxious.

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LORD is in control, his servant positive or negative, will lead, be put in a place for HIS purpose, i trust THE 2008 COULD BE A SIGN OF NEW BEGINNINGS. a joining will be on the arise. korea is now intrested in disarming discussions things are in a slight stalemate.

we saw the over night changes of 9/11 and be ready that if any prophesy occurs to bring the false one closer in his destiny. it will happen quickly for he only have a short time. in CHRIST, yaka.
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Ding, ding, ding, ding! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif I'll bet smyrna is watching for those UFO's that satan is supposed to come in.

godchild

02-10-2007, 09:29 AM

kim, Why don't you post the sleazy photos you sent your internet fiance? Now that would get a laugh, especially since he dumped you lickity-split! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif Maybe you can pick up someone else, another sleaze-bag that you were going to move to the COMMUNE with, and drag your kiddies along.

How's the new "dream job", by the way. I see you were busy here during the day. Are you cheating your boss, or did you lie again?

yaqakallah

02-10-2007, 10:05 AM

godchild,

Why must you enjoy being so cruel to me?

There were no sleazy pictures of me. Why must you call me a lier twice on this issue and believe David? Did you not read all of what he posted that he did to me and his post of regret? He begain posting after he broke up with me his fears of intimacy and that he experienced mood swings and claimed to have mental problems? Now he posts that he is an Atheist!

As for the Commune, my parents pushed RCV really hard on me. David did as well and it was he who was hoping to move back there after the kids and I were settled there.

I am not cheating my boss nor have I told one lie here on FN. I am home sick with a serious case of the flue. I have been to the Dr 3 times for this and I continue to get worse. My son also went as well as the lady of the house were we live.

Your post reaks of unchristian behavior. You added laughing icons to imphasis my life's shortcomings. How could a godly heart enjoy abusing me for any reason? I see it pleases you that David made claims to expose pictures of me and that he dumped me 'lickety split' as you called it. How very shameful that you can read yet not have any remorse for the torment he put me thru. It appears you like to squash people when they are down, or keep them down with painful memories and false unflattery accusations.I had to move nearly across the country and leave all family and friends of mine and my son to start a new life. We were on welfare for less than 3 months and I landed a job and in the first week, I got so sick I had to miss work and be driven to the Dr's as well as have my child run 104 degree temp and miss even more school.

If they fire me over this, godchild, I promise to tell you first so you can laugh at me all you want. My life troubles appear to make you very happy. I would hate to rob your heart of such joy.

PS You post night and day. Do you work or live off welfare/disability? Just how do you support yourself?

smyrna

02-10-2007, 01:47 PM

Godchild's use of large read letters means her meltdown is continuing. She is a very frustrated individual.

So frustrated, in fact, that she apparently inadvertantly copied another Figtree post, one that contradicts her earlier accusations about Murray making a hard prophecy for 2007.

Now it's 2008, and not a definite prophecy, as well all know that Pastor Murray would not go against what he clearly is aware, that Jesus taught that no man knows the day or hour of His coming, not even the angels, only the Father knows.

Godchild also wrote: "Look at what these stupid scer's want to talk about:

smyrna

Kim wrote:

"Hey godchild, do you still wear your 'secret' Morman underwear? You know, the one's that protect your Chastity and from the evil workings of Satan???"

Smyrna: Naw, she doesn't have to, now that she believes satan does not exist!"

YES, this Stupid SCer would like to talk about that subject Godchild has been ducking: How she and "illogical_al" over at CB are denying that Satan does not exist.

Also,this Stupid Scer would also like to talk about how Godchild came to trivialize the Book of Enoch, when it was quoted in Jude, and is also part of the Ethiopian Canon, as well as regarded as divinely inspired by many Christian and Jewish groups.

This stupid Scer would also like to talk about why Godchild was so quick to agree with "illogical_al" that the Torah was not written by Moses, and that satan is only a concept that underwent development in the Scriptures.

Let's talk about those subjects, Godchild, and we'll talk about your magic panties laterhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

david_munson

02-10-2007, 03:17 PM

Underwear shmunderwear.
(that was hard to even print)
What a waste of ,of ,of everything.
DEE DEE DEE !
Go without ,who cares!?

Is there now about to be a dispute about being lost or saved according to the color/texture/fabric of ones underwear?

This must be the "priestly garment" thread or something here.

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godchild

02-10-2007, 05:59 PM

kim, Don't cry to me about your problems. YOU picked him!

Why must I be so cruel? You've got to be kidding. In your last post you called me a liar because you don't know one damned thing about the mormon church, but just itch to get in some stupid, childish remarks. Stop being a hypocrit.

(Message edited by godchild on February 10, 2007)

godchild

02-10-2007, 06:06 PM

Of course it's now the flu. You really need to grow up and take responsibility for your life instead of blaming anything or anyone that you can use to be a "victim".

I don't care about all your trivial little problems. I don't trust one word you say. Cry wolf!!!

godchild

02-10-2007, 06:10 PM

kim, Why don't you tell us who is taking care of your sick little boy while you sit on a computer taunting people you know little or nothing about?

skooter942000

02-10-2007, 07:35 PM

FROM skooter942000

special underwear?
- Your kidding right?

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Ohhhh , what a WICKED SOUL.
To ask a such a question.

That' guy sure knows how to put his foot (in it).

- Boy , oh boy, - on JUDGMENT DAY,
( i sure hope he gets all he has coming to him for asking a question like this ).

BTW / (it was a serious question)

i never heard of this before.

Job 6:24 ¶ Teach me, and I will hold my tongue:
and cause me to understand wherein I have erred.

skooter942000

02-10-2007, 07:48 PM

YAH is EL
EL is YAH

THE LORD REBUKE YOU satan,
- in YESHUA'S HOLY NAME!!!

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RE: from gc

kim, Why don't you post the sleazy photos you sent your internet fiance? Now that would get a laugh, especially since he dumped you lickity-split! Maybe you can pick up someone else, another sleaze-bag that you were going to move to the COMMUNE with, and drag your kiddies along.

How's the new "dream job", by the way. I see you were busy here during the day. Are you cheating your boss, or did you lie again?

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- Such a WICKED POSTING.



Eze 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the
wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: [and]
not that he should return from his ways,
and live?

Eze 18:24 ¶ But when the righteous turneth away
from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity,
[and] doeth according to all the abominations
that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live?
All his righteousness that he hath done shall
not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath
trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned,
in them shall he die.

Eze 18:25 ¶ Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is
not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not
my way equal? are not your ways unequal?

Eze 18:26 When a righteous [man] turneth away
from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity,
and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath
done shall he die.

Eze 18:27 Again, when the wicked [man] turneth
away from his wickedness that he hath committed,
and doeth that which is lawful and right,
he shall save his soul alive.





Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye
mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that
is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not
the beam that is in thine own eye?

- JUDGE us ALL - (LORD)

terluvire

02-11-2007, 03:40 AM

Quote:
- Such a WICKED POSTING.

I agree Skooter. That's one of the meanest post I have read here.

angie0401

02-11-2007, 04:55 AM

I am home sick with a serious case of the flue. I have been to the Dr 3 times for this and I continue to get worse.

Kim,
I hope you're feeling better. My entire family fought with it for the last week and a half, but I think we are finally over it. We weren't even able to make it to church last week and that is the first time that has ever happened, so you know it was pretty rough around here.
An acquiantance of mine in California said they have been fighting it, too, and that lots of Vitamin C seemed to help them.

I'm praying that you all get well soon. Stay strong, stay in the Word and stay focused - it'll be fine!

Angie

godchild

02-11-2007, 05:55 PM

smyrna

02-11-2007, 10:32 PM

angie0401

02-11-2007, 10:38 PM

So sick one has to go to the doctor three times. So sick one can't go to work. So sick one spends time on a computer making stupid, insulting remarks instead of taking care of their equally sick child or themselves. That is wicked. Also, the lies one continually makes up when confronted is wicked. Exposing a liar is not wicked.

Vivian,
I hope you realize that you just described YOURSELF. If I'm not mistaken, you live in an eldery community that is government subsidized. Isn't it because you suffer from such extreme anxiety attacks that you are on disability and don't work? You spend the better part of most every day in an environment (here) that apparently causes you extreme distress and anxiety. That isn't very smart and probably exacerbates your condition. It may be the source of your need to lie continually and attack others without ceasing. Might be a good idea to spend some time in the real world. Maybe a part time job would be good for you and free up some of that government assistance for others who truly need it. Although, I have to say, I don't really see you as a greeter for Wal-Mart, but maybe you could work in collections somewhere??

Kim, on the other hand, has the flu and has been temporarily off of work. While off work, she has been trying to expose a liar and you said that isn't wicked, so I say "GOOD JOB, KIM!", thereby condoning her behavior.

smyrna

02-11-2007, 10:48 PM

Godchild's post 4560 (above) can be seen as an example of Godchild's blindess.

WHO has been caught lying more times in these forums than one can count?

WHO engages in hypocrisy that only Frankie can outdo?

KIM: I hope you are feeling better. And remember, it's better to be temporariiy ill, than to be spiritually and emotionally ill, and also devoid of any personal intregity whatsoever.

For example, like the person here who has openly doubted the Virgin Birth, agreed with those who deny that Moses wrote the Torah, trivialized a book considered by many Jews and Christians to be divinely inspired, and even quoted in the New Testament (Enoch in Jude), and also denies that satan exists, and was just a literary invention.

In addition, this person's chronic condition has allowed her to conveniently ignore these issues, while mocking and personally attacking you Kim,which would not be happening at all, were it not for her zeal to retaliate for your mention of her magic panties, which would not even had become an issue had she stayed in the present, and not tried to attack Pastor Murray based on ALLEGED past involvements with avowed racists.

Just follow the timeline of events on these boards over the past week to see the truth of these matters.

(Message edited by smyrna on February 11, 2007)

smyrna

02-15-2007, 02:25 AM

Just checking in, and noticing that this is just ANOTHER thread that Godchild has now chosen to ignore, after she left her filthy mess of lies here,and moved on to sow her seeds of Tares on other threads.

smyrna

02-15-2007, 02:31 AM

lutheratx

04-17-2007, 12:20 PM

Be carefull of the way you talk to one another, I don't get it maybe I'm to new to this but under pants and stuff, personal attacks. Arnold Murray always teaches to do things with compassion. Also using sound doctrine as an insult come on God child, Im sorry if you feel you have to defend yourself. I do enjoy the fact I am Standing up for my Pastor, because I love him, but I love humanity also. Debate subjects concerning The Second Coming don't do personell attacks.

P.S. I think I didn't have the hang of this initially I think I got it know. God through me by use of the comforter did explain the 1981 thing. Amongst other valuable tid bits.

godchild

04-17-2007, 04:51 PM

Yeah, am uses compassion by calling others who don't believe as he does "idiots", etc. So much love there. And you all excuse that cause he's an old 'military man'. Give me a break.

You said "God through me". Who are you? Sounds like another bonehead.

My concern is not so much for tomorrow (the second coming). It is for today. The bible tells me to live this way. Do you read the bible. Jesus said to teach the gospel, the good news of salvation by His blood being shed for all as a covering for our sins, acceptable to God. If you don't understand or know that, it's not going to help you in the final day. You're too concerned about who'se going to be teaching who; instead of thanking God He sent His Only Begotten Son for you. Get your minds off SELF. Get it on God. If its possible for you to do that, He will take care of the rest, because He has promised to do so, and He never lies, like men such as am do, teaching it is up to man.

godchild

04-17-2007, 04:55 PM

And rebuke angie and smearna about the underpants. They brought it up, I didn't. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/yawn.gif

In my opinion, you all have sex on the brain. am's definitions of love, I assume. Was he showing 'love' out in the barn? Sickos!

smyrna

04-17-2007, 05:06 PM

Godchild wrote:

"Yeah, am uses compassion by calling others who don't believe as he does "idiots", etc"

Smyrna: Godchild is a hypocrite, who apparently has no problem using name calling to try and get her feeble points across, yet has problems with others who do so. Do we really have to look for examples?

Godchild: "You said "God through me". Who are you? Sounds like another bonehead."

Lutheratx: Never mind Godchild. Just last week she declared that she wss "not spending enough time" "letting the light of Jesus shine trhough her" after which she posted that one of us SC students was a "Bich" (her spelling to avoid censorship, hmmm.., must have done it before?)
and went on her usual tirade of hate speech, after we posted an entire thread listing just SOME of her LIES, all, I am sure, was just letting that 'ole light of Jesus shining through her.

Hey, an idiot is an idiot. Fool was a description even used by Jesus,John, and Paul, addressed to those who were fools.

She also wrote: "The bible tells me to live this way."

I wish she can show us where in the Bible one is allowed to spend hours attacking a group of people she does not agree with, to make up accusations out of thin air (I can and have proved it) and otherwise engage in hate filled diatribes, all while spending time plotting on another forum (Cultbusters.com.au)that has recently been hidden from the general public, after we repeatedly showed that is precisely what they were doing.

Finally, in summary, it is just another example of her hypocrisy, asking, and ready to call you a "bonehead", lutheratx, while at the same time complaining that Pastor Murray uses the word idiot!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

terluvire

04-17-2007, 05:14 PM

Smyrna said:
Finally, in summary, it is just another example of her hypocrisy, asking, and ready to call you a "bonehead", lutheratx, while at the same time complaining that Pastor Murray uses the word idiot!

Shame on you godchild!!! Isn't that being hypocritical?

smyrna

04-17-2007, 05:26 PM

Lutheratx,Ter,

Check this out, Godchild's post above says:

"And rebuke angie and smearna about the underpants. They brought it up, I didn't.

In my opinion, you all have sex on the brain. am's definitions of love, I assume. Was he showing 'love' out in the barn? Sickos!"

Smyrna:Lutheratx, sorry if you don't know what she is talking about. Don't even bother, but we'll tell you if you wish. I don't know what "underwear" has to do directly with sex anyway.

Now, as for her mention of "am" (Arnold Murray) and some barn, that was a false accusation that you can read about on the "CB's Shepherd's Chapel Thread" here.

As you will see, it is hearsay, no one ever came up with any proof, and this stuff goes on all the time.

Godchild is doing her midday meltdown, which always seems to happen whenever she tries to spend a few hours making up silly things to try and entertain us. She does that pretty well, but at a great cost.

Godchild's posts: 4766 and counting!

terluvire

04-17-2007, 05:48 PM

Hi Smyrna,

Yeah, if godchild is going to accuse, she should keep her facts straight..lol It was Kimberly who brought up the fact about Mormons concerning undies..lol

It's a shame though that the posts at CB are hidden, so Lutheratx can't see them. CB's funny like that, hidding stuff from the public so that they don't have to answer for it. But God sees what they write, so they are getting away with nothing.

skooter942000

04-17-2007, 06:14 PM

Ah, the LOVE and COMPASSION of gc.

- 'i' mean the lack thereof.

- refering to Post Number: 4765
- Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007
- 11:51 am:

- more name calling

- Nothing new under the SUN (here)

 - BTW/ - welcome NEW MEMBER (lutheratx)

skooter942000

04-17-2007, 06:14 PM

abiyah

04-17-2007, 06:18 PM

Terluvire WROTE;
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QUOTE: " But God sees what they write, so they are getting away with nothing. " END QUOTE
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Matthew 12:36
" But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, THEY SHALL give account thereof in The Day of Judgment. "

skooter942000

04-17-2007, 06:26 PM

The LORD REBUKE YOU satan & (VIVIAN)-
- IN JESUS CHRIST'S HOLY NAME.

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RE: From GC (VIVIAN)

And rebuke angie and smearna about the
underpants. They brought it up, I didn't.

In my opinion, you all have sex on the brain.
am's definitions of love, I assume.

Was he showing 'love' out in the barn? Sickos!

lutheratx

04-17-2007, 07:01 PM

Yes a personal attack when I reminded my fellow Shepherd's Chapel student how to treat you people that wan't to see things different from us. Now as for my comment of God through me I cannot take credit for my salvation, or through my education. If you read my NWO stuff, 1981, chosen race, and I believe one other I cant remember. If I was to take credit for that and leave God out he would no longer send me the comforter, (the Holy Spirit) until my repentence. Where do you think the word of God comes from a book. I will admit I don't know every thing, maybe I was wrong in the way I said it, maybe I should have said the Holy Spirit inspired me to say. Im cool with correction. What was I trying to say is covered in

Exodus 3:7 And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their taskmasters; for I know their sorrows; 3:8 And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites

Did it say Moses you are going to deliver them, If so I geuss he also is responsible far parting the Red Sea not God. As a matter of fact when Mose struck the rock to deliver water to thristy Hebrews
Numbers 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also.
20:10 And Moses and Aaron gathered the congregation together before the rock, and he said unto them, Hear now, ye rebels; must we fetch you water out of this rock? 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also. 20:12 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. 20:13 This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with the LORD, and he was sanctified in them.

Moses didn't get to go into the promised land because he didn't give credit to the lord. Becarefull of opposing me because I come with the word of God. Once again I don't want to insult you guys that oppose my beliefs, but do me a favor just watch how many people in the world share your views. Christ said we would be destained not welcomed with open arms. Enjoy your day, and please no personal attack ie (bone head) If you continue to do so at least put some scripture in the mix. I will leave you with one attack, but it will take some bible study to understand it. You don't think you need to give credit to God you are like Jeshurun

Bye Bye

lutheratx

04-17-2007, 07:04 PM

P.S. the Statement of Faith, Let Murray speak for himself. That was Genuis Smyrna truly inspired by God.

lutheratx

04-17-2007, 07:16 PM

my NWO post is in Serpent seed 101 continued, In Arnold Murray's teaching 2007 you will find my 1981, and in AM views on Neo Nazi blah blah blah you find my chosen race work. All credit to JHVH

lutheratx

04-21-2007, 11:47 PM

3:14 Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up? 3:15 Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
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3:17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. 3:18 But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
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3:21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
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3:23 And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. 3:24 Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
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3:27 And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king’s counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them. 3:28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king’s word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.

So seeing these three walk through firey flames changed the king's words. Imagine how many would have changed if they only knew he was a God of the Gentiles (ethnos) too. Imagine how many of these were saved when Christ defeated death and visited and told them they were not excluded from God's kingdom. So lets drop all the racist name calling.

Isaiah 43:2 When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee. 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.

lutheratx

04-21-2007, 11:51 PM

Luke 21:10 Then said he unto them,Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake. 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake. 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.