The Fleurdelis and God

[john_parker (john_parker)]

Oh I almost forgot.

There were two messengers that Sunday morning. One was black and the other one was white.

One was a soldier; he looked just like a black man (Negro) and wore a very unique uniform with a medal about his neck. But instead of a regular medal there was a very unique gemstone in its place and the uniform had a sort of disappearing (now you see it now you dont) suit of Armor that looked like he was standing in a booth a times and apparently the Fleur-de-lis emblem which first got my attention seemed to be actually part of the face cover (face-shield) of his helmet or booth. The other messenger was white and dressed like a bishop or someone of Godly duties.

The white man (of God) stayed only long enough to announce the Presents of the Lord and helps get me ready to receive Him adequately (on my knees hands together head bowed) then I never saw him again. The black one stayed around not to far away, apparently till the next day.

The black warrior was always so calm and assuring and quite happy for a soldier? I just figured he was probably so happy and glad because the Lord God was there now and everything was going to be very good.

NOW,

A word to the scoffers and jerks that just love to hit a man when he is most vulnerable.

I can only give an account of what happened to me out of the clear blue on that Sunday morning, back in Feb 97.

I am not making this up,

This is a true story


PEACE http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[godchild (godchild)]

john, What is the connection you see between the AM shepherd's chapel and the fleur-de-lis?

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

there is none so stop trying to load up on ammunition (albeit blank)

Lier

[godchild (godchild)]

Pay attention. This is under a murray and shepherds chapel thread. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a connection, but I just wondered what it was. Why are you attacking me, hypocrit?

[johncody (johncody)]

Fleur-de-lis God and Shepherds Chapel

How are they related?

Whats it all about?



Hummmm, I donno? I have kind of already explained it in simple terms but I am really still trying to figure it all out

SO,

I will answer the questions with a couple of questions. Then,,, , I will try explaining it all over again.

Ok?

Here goes http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif

R U Ready?

Are you Rapture Ready?,,, , Or, are you ready to die?

I am posting here because I felt others should know they are not alone if they should have a similar encounter(s) with GOD their maker.

Those that are connected (in the way I struggled with) should already know what I am talking about so there is no need explaining who the Herald or man of God is.

This is for those interested in vying and earnestly contending for a job which most certainly spells martyrdom, a hideous stadium death.

This is not as much a salvation issue as it is something rather remarkable for those that are interested in providing something special, putting in extra-duty by volunteering to stay behind for to help others during the great-trib

As a Christian following Jesus in His Word,
Whether you live a full, rich, long lived life

OR,,, , , , ?

If your life is cut short by martyrdom, it is always WIN-WIN situation whenever you are serving GOD as your reward is waiting for you when you finally get to the Kingdom of God or if you are still standing when the Kingdom comes Jesus Christ in all glory leading the way.

AND

After Jesus Christ physically returns, all will say: what a wonderful thing He THE LORD GOD has done!

SO,

Am I, saying,,,, , , I am one of the TWO WITNESSES? No,

but I am contending and I have earnestly contended for the job and I am still very much open to the idea and willing to go when the time comes,,, , , , if chosen.

GOD doesnt ask all to die or to be crucified like Jesus Christ was on that day, But, all should be at least willing (and ready) to go if asked.

Salvation is free to all those that will. But oh! what a price He has paid.



God Bless



PEACE http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[godchild (godchild)]

thanks John.

[johncody (johncody)]

You are wellcome, godchild http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

PEACE

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

John....
Do you believe that people will be gathered BEFORE the 7th trump?

And if this is so, that you will choose to STAY BEHIND and do some work for God? That is, if He picks you? And then you will be martyrd

Is that correct?

Because if I understand you correctly....

WoW!

I haver come to a much different conclusion.

It is a common teaching that Moses and Elijah will be the 2 witnesses. Although you never know...

But the rapture?
come on now!
We are ALL here through the trib.....
And the elect do lots of work for God during that time.

And the stadium, in my opinion, is where the final trial of the elect is held, where the Gospel shall be witnessed to the ENTIRE world, through the mouths of the elect, by the power of God's gift of Tongues, the real gift of tongues. And where the 7000 fallen angels and their leader Satan are, and those 7000 fallen angels are killed and put into holding for their destruction, at the return of Christ, which is one time only, at the 7th trump and not before

but not one of the elect shall even have as much as a hair on their head hurt, for they are 100% protected during that time.

Peace
c

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

But I still do not see the connection....I've been to Quebec many times, so what's up with the fleur....does it also mean something else?

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

Ya, I must have misunderstood you!

Peace
c

[johncody (johncody)]

John....
Do you believe that people will be gathered BEFORE the 7th trump?

And if this is so, that you will choose to STAY BEHIND and do some work for God? That is, if He picks you? And then you will be martyrd

Is that correct?

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Well, eh,,, , yes and no

Glad that caught your eye, it tells me someone is actually reading my posts

Let me explain http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

I do not believe in a pre-trib rapture, today

You see,

But at the time, back in 97 I had never heard of Arnold Murray

AND

I had never really read GOD s Word much, so, all I had to go on was what little I had read and the nonsense spoon-fed me all my life.

I had heard that the two witnesses would be martyred here on earth during the great-trib and so after reading Jude I prayed in supplication to the Father for the faith meant for the two witnesses.

I took this verse to mean the Two Witnesses http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gifhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.


I got an answer some three weeks later, which came in the form an initial intense visitation lasting some 20 hours with subsequent follow-ups. I wasnt told that I am one of the two,,, ,, , but I am ready to go if asked

He has empowered me in certain ways which I cannot really speak (to much) of or really use till I am triggered.

Without getting into details,,,, , , cant hot-wire and take Papas truck on any joy rides (lol) or go hunting loaded for bear till I am activated, given the go-ahead (lol)

God Bless

PEACE


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[johncody (johncody)]

All I can really do till then,,, , is plant a few seeds and exhort others to do the same as Saint Jude has said to do.

earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.


PEACE http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

Do you understand Pastor Murray to teach that ALL will be here throughout the trib?

If so do you agree?

in my next to last post, I started with.... And the stadium....

That, to me happens within the last few days, and only after the 2 witnesses are slain.

Do you have any reason to believe that Moses and Elijah are not them?

I am anxiiously awaiting the arrival of these 2.

Do you have an opinion on whether or not the 2 winesses will be here throughout the entire 5 months or do you believe that they are persons living today, awaiting the call?

Honestly curious...
Peace
c

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

John....you there?
just bringing the thread closer to the top

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

John....you there?
just bringing the thread closer to the top

again.....

[manu_forti (manu_forti)]

ezekiel,

I see your missing your little inbred idiot named johncody. Sort of says something about you doesn’t’ it?

You need to spend more time with your family. Why don't you go hug your wife and tell her that you love her instead of playing with yourself on this website. It's sad that fools like you are reproducing. I used to have higher opinions of Canadians.

[ezekiel_37 (ezekiel_37)]

I was attempting to understand someone instead of blindly casting him to the side like others may do.

I, in the past have taken things personally.
I am attempting not to do this anymore and shall attempt to write without insulting you or others.

if you can do the same then discorce is possible. Otherwise nothing will get resolved.

I have stated that I do not take you for a Kenite. There are caucasion, african, asain, arabic kenites, as well as all inter racial groups.

None can be spotted by site. But they do exist, and if I was from Judah...then I'd want to know about them real bad!

I do not really research people that post here very much. I saw some posts by John and wanted to know him better, as he did(assumed)and maybe we could learn something from each other....He believes some things that I do and some things that I do not.

I have researched a few people to see their pattern. To see what they are all about.

You deleted all your posts.
But maybe you realized that what you were saying was not Godly and you were ashamed of those words.

And I am by no means excusing others for their foul comments. I have called a few hypocrites and liers but that's about it...that's bad enough though. God will judge those comments and mine, if they are unrepented!

If we claim to love God then we should attempt to understand each other and not throw insults at each other.

[johncody]

do you see how Satan tries to buffet me?

Do you understand Pastor Murray to teach that ALL will be here throughout the trib?

If so do you agree?

in my next to last post, I started with.... And the stadium....

That, to me happens within the last few days, and only after the 2 witnesses are slain.

In the old days,
Christians were slain in stadiums. And you know what? Satans buggy looks a lot like a flying stadium. I have seen something awful fierce and blistering fast, its a bottom feeder and it looks very much like the Taj Mahal only it is black and its dome is crystalline with a blue world inside. I call her Babylon the great. Yes, its a vehicle. AND The Dome of the rock could be a sort of landing pad/translator.

But, I admit it could be a trick?
Either way I do not worry about it because I have my best friend with me, He helps me, His name is Jesus (lol)

we do it together http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

Do you have any reason to believe that Moses and Elijah are not them?

I am anxiiously awaiting the arrival of these 2.

Do you have an opinion on whether or not the 2 winesses will be here throughout the entire 5 months or do you believe that they are persons living today, awaiting the call?

Honestly curious...

Peace

No one knows who the 2 witnesses are? Traditionally the Father and Son are the two Witnesses.

In 97 I knew nothing about God s Word and so I was a bit naive. Back then I believed in pre-trib rapture and so I asked (the good Lord) to stay behind. I knew at least two where staying behind and so in deep supplication, I asked my Father to be one of the two.

I got a reply two weeks later, on the last Sunday of Feb 97

God bless

PEACE

[godchild]

john parker/cody, trentwoodard, eli, and whatever other names you have used here:

Why are you trying to teach something that you don't have the first clue as to what it means?

Quote from jpcte on the above post:
Hummmm, I donno? I have kind of already explained it in simple terms but I am really still trying to figure it all out

SO,
I will answer the questions with a couple of questions. Then,,, , I will try explaining it all over again.-end of quote.

You pathetic person.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">More prayers going up for this one.</font>

[godchild]

quote from sc'ers friend and brother jc, jcp, jp, kleagle, trentwoodard, eli and whatever other name he wants to use at the moment:

Quote:Posted From: 205.188.117.13
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 7:20 pm:

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The Klan is eveywhere! We are your neighbors, your friends, your coworkers, and your family. The Klan is not here to persecute blacks. We are here to protect the white race!
The myths and stories you know were told by blacks who couldn't write they told stories and fables. Ghost stories of the KLAN the Klan was the law in the south when there wasn't any law! They were the protectors of the confederate widows!

By the way tell your neighbor I said HI!

LONG LIVE THE KU KLUX KLAN
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Save your prayers for yourselves.

[johncody]

(sick) Godchild,

my name is John Cody Parker,

the only handles Ive used here are as follows

#1. Johncody

#2. John Parker

#3. ELI

#4. Josey Wales

AND

thats about it, godchild

As I have explained,
sometime this site doesnt recognize me so I need to change handles. That is the only reason I change my handle

AND,
also

as I have explained,
when I change my handle, I let everyone know about it so its not much of a secret?

I hope you get well soon and perhaps maybe well enough to get let-out of the mental hospital. Too bad the shock treatments and your frontal lobotomies didnt help your condition much

I gave you fair warning to stop your slander and lies about me

I am an old-school Internet flamer and you really aught not tangle with this one

I just wish you would go away, far far away and stop bothering folks on these Arnold Murray strings. No one is listening to you and all you are doing is scattering not gathering the folks. those that are not laughing at you are running from you because you really are kinda scary.

I just wish you would go do your haunting/trolling somewhere else

AND

Just because I see Jesus face to face doesnt mean I am perfect,
for only Jesus is Perfect Christ Holy.

God made us all different
and He absolutely hates playactors (like you) Yes, indeed, He rather I simply be myself so it is apparent to everyone involved what needs fixing and what needs stay.

PEACE

-


PS

IF,

We all start complaining about you

YOU WILL GO AWAY

One way or another, think about it?

will you? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[godchild]

Sic em, boy!

[ezekiel_37]

why don't you start a thread for each of your enemies and keep all your BS off of the thread.

You are full of nonsence

[johncody]

I have yet to find one serious complaint,

about pastor Murray s teaching OR any REAL and TRUE personal accounts and testimonials on how Shepherds Chapel has ruined anyones life? It is not hardly a cult, nor does Shepherds Chapel fall under the definition of a cult under the cult warning signs and guidelines of a cult as such.

No,, , actually, all I am hearing is good things about Pastor Murray and what a genuine Godsend and blessing his teaching through Shepherds Chapel has been in peoples lives. Arnold has helped empower folks by helping them connect to their maker. (By Jesus)

Yes, I am sure Arnold Murray has his skeptics and more than his fair share of troubles, coming mainly from trouble makers (duh) and from a few ignorant though good folks with lame knee-jerk negative retorts due mainly from stories they have only heard about without actually tuning into Shepherds Chapel and giving it a fair chance and fair listing to.

As a matter of fact,
after many years (7 years to be exact) of not watching or listening to Shepherds Chapel I happened to tune in to his program by chance this morning and caught the tail-end of Murrays nightly bible lesson. Here, in Santa Barbara CA he comes on around 1 AM till 6:30 AM on channel 11.

I enjoyed the program and found absolutely nothing wrong with his presentation or delivery of GOD s Word.

Good folks,

PLEASE try and avoid the trolls and scoffers with nothing better to do than stir up trouble. God knows, we got enough negativity in this world already.

Please, do not contribute to the problem

Sincerely,

In His Service

John Cody Parker

God bless

PEACE


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WE MUST STAY HOLY,

We stay holy by continually washing the stain of sin away from us through constant repentance, asking the Father forgiveness by Jesus.

Repentance means turning away from any path (of sin) we might be headed in and going in the opposite direction, making a complete 180 degree turn and going back towards God.

We do this with five simple words. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

FATHER FORGIVE ME BY JESUS

[sharon]

Well John that is quite a story, and wow is all I can say.
I do have to point out to you that while Murray may have some thing right, he is not following Jesus, for no way would Jesus pull out a gun in a room full of people, especially to protect himself from words, he would not even do that to save his own life. And when Peter did, he told him it was wrong to do so and healed the soldier who came to take him away. This is how I always know the ones who love the Lord, they show it, as Jesus did. I do not need to read what he writes for his actions speak for him. I do not need more than this, as with all folks, the fruit of their actions speak, and loudly.
Can you see Billy Graham whipping out a gun? He may not be right about everything but he is following Jesus.
And here is another to think on, God is not the master of confusion, if you do not know if something is a trick, it is a trick for the Lord does not allow us confusion when he shows us something, for what would be the point. So if you are confused just say satan get behind me.
Just remember satan does not go after what he already owns, he goes after those he does not yet have. So you should be very wary as it seems there is a shark in your swimming pool.
God is LOVE. Jesus says to love one another, he does not mention race or religion, nor does he say but NOT. Just love, so easy and yet some can make it so hard, and say well these are evil, and those are evil. And the devil dances with glee every time he hears that. He feet will be worn out before long. There is no evil race, no one who is not loved by your Father, he tells you he is coming back for all of creation... ALL of creation. And you know who is going to get slammed and all who are with him. Make sure your words are words of love and do not let anyone drag you from that road. Do not look for the enemy without but within for that is also where the kingdom of heaven is...the rest is smoke and mirrors. No Kenite or Christian can save or lose your soul, only you have the power to do that. You will not be asked of them or what they did but of you and what you did. May God Bless You.

[smyrna]

Sharon,

You are a bona fide nut case.

Have you been in a coma? Maybe in jail?

Look, this thread has been dead for a year!

Furthermore, the gun incident has been throughly discussed in the thread: Pistol packing preachers
and YOU KNOW IT.

If that was not enough for you, you sure as hell ain't getting any more out of this thread.

Is this the newest CB tactic? Bumping up old threads, and pretending things have not been discussed?

Addressing long gone posters, as if they are still here?

Foolish, silly, stupid, dishonest, irrational, boring, dishonest, deceptive, clownish, ridiculous, etc.

You people are so really desperate. This is one of the dumbest moves I've seen by the detractors, who are champions of doing and saying stupid things!

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[stage_director]

Sharon ... Smyrna imagines the subject's over whenever he thinks it is, and well ... it does look like you forgot to ask his permission before bumping the thread. I sure hope you're properly contrite ...

[rachelengland]

You know Sharon is a beautiful person she didn't deserve to be called those names smyrna..you all get <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> off when you are called names but it's okay when you do it...Sharon has the right to post where she pleases..not everything has to be a tactic.

You may not agree with her Smyrna but you can respect her as a child and creation of God...R

[smyrna]

"Sharon ... Smyrna imagines the subject's over whenever he thinks it is, and well ... it does look like you forgot to ask his permission before bumping the thread. I sure hope you're properly contrite..."

Smyrna: This is typical. Stage Director sees absolutely nothing wrong with seeing someone bump a thread, address a long gone participant as if he is still here, address a subject that has been discussed on it's own intended thread, and THAT thread was exhausted. I didn't put an end to it, EVERYONE who decided to NO LONGER post to that thread did!

Of course, this is what to expect with someone like Stage Director, who is apparently intellectually incapable of understanding that and thinking it all through. I also stated that Sharon KNEW about the appropriate thread, KNEW that the subject had been debated, and KNEW that the subject had gone cold.

But that doesn't mean anything to S_D. No, she has to stick up for poor Sharon. Poor Sharon, just another dishonest, conniving detractor.

Rachel is the same way. And she writes:"you all get •••••• off when you are called names but it's okay when you do it.."

Same modus, same attitude as S_D. Sharon did no wrong. None of the above reasons have any validity, according to Rachel.

Well, first of all, I don't give a damn about what a bunch of foolish, ridiculous detractors want to call me.

And secondly, I actually love it when you people pull this stuff.

Rachel talks about respect. When you folks stop trying stupid, ridiculous stunts like this one, then you might get some respect.

Finally, I even love it more when you act like you did absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. Well, for you people, it is quite ordinary.

And that is the shame of it all.

[godchild]

Thanks for bumping this thread, sharon. Curiously, I think john cody, aka trentwoodard is back under the new name of aviya. Some of the other aliases he used were eli, john parker, john parker cody, sashamirage (or was that watchman's), anniecat, and more. He's embarassed himself more times than you can count, but keeps showing up once in awhile. He's a neo-nazi who's proud of it, except when he decides to hide under assumed names. I think his mind went bye-bye after his neo-nazi wife left him and his leader died. (covenant church of yahweh) If you look at the older archived posts by him, you'll see his opening rascist hatred, four-letter words included. (And factnet has left them). Back when everyone was using the name "anonymous", including these scers, they too were more honest about their true agenda on behalf of am/sc, their elijah.

ITS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO REFRESH THE MEMORIES OF POSTERS, AND NEWCOMERS SHOULD BE AWARE TOO!! Don't take my word for it, the archives are available. Do a 'search', the archived posts from around 2004 have a different 'flag' than the more current ones.

[smyrna]

Godchild wrote;
'Thanks for bumping this thread, sharon. Curiously, I think john cody, aka trentwoodard is back under the new name of aviya."

Smyrna: "I think" is not evidence! To act like it is a typical detractor tactic.

Here we go again, another a$$ covering post by Godchild, who pulled the same stunt at CB's "Let's talk about satan" thread, the same stupid stunt Rachel also tries here but with the new twist that Aviya, is supposedly John Cody!

Even if that was true, it has NOTHING to do with this foolish attempt to bring up a subject that was already the subject of another, long dead thread.

How stupid is that?

Godchild wrote:

"ITS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO REFRESH THE MEMORIES OF POSTERS, AND NEWCOMERS SHOULD BE AWARE TOO!!"

Smyrna: I wonder if she will think it is a good idea when I bump up the threads the detractors were clearly afraid to go back to!

I agree, it is time to refresh some memories. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[skooter942000]

(...waving as i pass on by) http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif


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