Shepherdbs Chapel students banned at many CHRISTIAN BOARDS

[godchild]

1. Cultbusters au
2. Carm

for a start. Anyone want to add to the list. If you go to these sites, you'll see they don't allow nasty, rude, and obnoxious posters for very long. Oh, I forgot to add even the sc's very own 'seasons'. Now that's getting pretty bad, isn't it?

What's that saying? "Shape up or ship out". http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[smyrna]

When I have a little more time, I will outline the posts where Godchild has been anything but cordial and amiable.(not to mention out and out lies, and other deceptions) Not because I myself have not been guilty of some very harsh posts, which I do not regret due to context, but to illustrate that Godchild is a hypocrite.

Furthermore, once again Godchild uses the cheap tactic of labeling ALL SC people rude and nasty.

Let's superimpose her "logic" on the rest os Christianity:
If a few Methodists inhabit a discussion board, and are rude and nasty, then according to Godchild, ALL Methodists must be rude and nasty.

Now, here is the reason (so help me God) many of us SC folks got thrown off the carm.org boards in '96:

We got into a dicsusion about the flood. A faction of Fundmentalists clung to the puerile Sunday school mythology of a man who went on a world wide safari, or had some magic whistle, to obtain all the animals that existed at the time. Then he built a boat, all by himself, that was large enough to hold them all etc...

Soon, the SC folks made the Fundys so silly looking, the always fair Matt Slick and some other guy, I think his name was White, threw all the SC folks off the board.

Yes, there was some mudslinging and name calling on BOTH SIDES. Yet, only the SC folks got thrown off. And that fact shows there was more to the story behind why we got thrown off, and also points to the real reasons why this occurs on other Fundy oriented boards.

[godchild]

There's always an excuse for this sorry piece of humanity who calls himself smyrna. Anybody want to hear his other excuses for being banned at other boards? I could care less. I wouldn't believe him "if his tongue came notarized". (jm) What he does is called not taking responsibility for his own actions. Find someone else to blame. Notice here all the threads started by scers here with titles against cultbusters, me, franklin and arron. Maybe others. Now he comes on and accuses me. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif

[skooter942000]

- Get a NEW HOBBY [GC]

- Before it's too late.

- And that is not a threat.
- Just some words of wisdom.


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BTW/

- i have never been ejected from one of these so_called sites.

- Just so you know.



'i' also know i am not welcome there.




- i can Take a HINT!!!

( i wish the CB-ERS would too)

- For this listing
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/13502.html


GC,
we are not equally YOKED.
- You know what that means, (right)?

[smyrna]

I'll stand by my explanation of why the SCers got banned from CARM. Matt Slick is a whimp who can't take being made a fool, and he even made a fool of himself by banning us in '96, because it sure showed we were in complete control of the debate!

In any case, Godchild wrote: "Notice here all the threads started by scers here with titles against cultbusters, me, franklin and arron. Maybe others. Now he comes on and accuses me"

Hey, cry me a river! You and your CB comrades are just a bunch of clowns, that disappear for weeks after you are shown over and over to be cowards, liars, and way more cultist than any of us SC folks could ever be.

EVERY time we show any of you that you are wrong beyond any shadow of a doubt about anything, POOF! you are gone. If you do not automatically leave, then you IGNORE any mention of our documentation that you indeed were wrong.

And if you want some examples, hey, I'm all for going on a fishing expdeition for the posts, thread titles, etc, so anyone can clearly see how ridiculous you people are.

You can keep whining and crying about Adam and Eve, and all that, but we will laugh for days if you keep pushing for me and the others to go and sift through all the posts here and see how many stupid, ridiculous, lies, false accusations, and plain old stupid comments of yours, Franklin & co., that are easily documented by one or two clicks to a word definition, online encyclopedia that is NOT Wilkpedia,(to prevent them from saying W is not reliable, etc) and other very reliable sources.

So keep it up Godchild! It's been pretty quiet around here, so maybe we need such a fun project!

Maybe we can start with your emotional breakdown and large red letter posts of what, January? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

Sift all you want, fool.

What breakdown? Your mind is playing tricks on you, or its your normal mode. Either way, think what you want of me. My life, unlike yours, doesn't revolve around factnet. You can't even stay away from it when you're supposed to be working. Unless your "job" is another of your lies.

abi writes in large red, blue, green and whatever other colors for her posts. I guess she's in permanent breakdown.

scooter, Whatever gave you the idea I ever thought sc was equally yoked with Christianity? Haven't you been reading all the posts showing you all you follow a false teacher who preaches false doctrine? Open your eyes, man! (If you are a man).

[smyrna]

Godchild wrote:

"Sift all you want, fool." "What breakdown? Your mind is playing tricks on you, or its your normal mode. Either way, think what you want of me. My life, unlike yours, doesn't revolve around factnet. You can't even stay away from it when you're supposed to be working. Unless your "job" is another of your lies."

"abi writes in large red, blue, green and whatever other colors for her posts. I guess she's in permanent breakdown."

Godchild wrote: ""Sift all you want, fool."

Smyrna: Thanks, I certainly will.

"What breakdown? Your mind is playing tricks on you, or its your normal mode."

Smyrna: Hardly. Seriously, we can show how you became highly perturbed at some of our posts.

"Either way, think what you want of me."

Smyrna: I already have been doing that.

"My life, unlike yours, doesn't revolve around factnet."

Smyrna: Now that comment is really strange, considering you have, what, 4598 posts in two years?

"You can't even stay away from it when you're supposed to be working. Unless your "job" is another of your lies."

Smyrna: Maybe Godchild's new boss doesn't offer her any breaks. If that is so, I'd certainly understand him or her. My job does offer breaks, like twelve hours a day.

Lies? Let's see you find a documentable lie of mine, not some out of context staement that you have to weave into a lie. Then that would make you a bigger liar.

"abi writes in large red, blue, green and whatever other colors for her posts. I guess she's in permanent breakdown."

Smyrna: Another example of your "fine" analytical skills. Abiyah doesn't rant and rave while using her chosen fonts, but you do.

(Message edited by smyrna on March 26, 2007)

[skooter942000]

From GC

scooter, Whatever gave you the idea I ever thought sc was equally yoked with Christianity? Haven't you been reading all the posts showing you all you follow a false teacher who preaches false doctrine? Open your eyes, man! (If you are a man).
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GC,

You misunderstood what i said.

WE are not Equally yoked.


'amazing' how you think you are OVER US?

You are not OUR JUDGE.
To think that Chapel Students are not CHRISTIAN,
is JUDGING US.

- That's a NO-NO!!!

We claim John 3:16
Everyone here from SC



- (yet you say we did not)?



- YAH'S WILL - BE DONE HERE. (Again)
- (In JESUS Holy Name)

1Cr 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing
that I should be judged of you, or of man's
judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.


1Cr 4:4 For I know nothing by myself;
yet am I not hereby justified: but he that
judgeth me is the Lord.


1Cr 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the
time, until the Lord come, who both will bring
to light the hidden things of darkness, and will
make manifest the counsels of the hearts:
and then shall every man have praise of God.





- You are the FALSE ONES HERE.

Your Blindness will not allow you to see this.

And calling PASTOR an OINK OINK.

- How was the correction?




- Your fruit , (Is rotten).
- and you are found to be a LIAR.
- (And Hypocrite)

Your fruit continues to ROT on this SITE.

- You follow another Savior.
- a False Savior

One that will lead you straight to hell.

- Rapture (hint/hint) that!!!!



See 2Thess 2:1-4



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[skooter942000]

2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together
with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath
righteousness with unrighteousness?
and what communion hath light with darkness?


2Cr 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with
Belial? or what part hath he that believeth
with an infidel?


2Cr 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple
of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the
living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in
them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their
God, and they shall be my people.


2Cr 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them,
and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch
not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,



2Cr 6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye
shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord
Almighty.

[smyrna]

This thread's title is a lie. It says banned from "MANY Christian Boards".

So far, only two, and since one of them has a thread that questions who wrote the Torah or does satan really exist, it is questionable whether it truly is a Christian website.

At Cultbusters, all beliefs are surrendered to speculation, the commandment against bearing false witness is suspended and replaced with an uncontrollable desire to "win" rather then seeking the truth of God's Word. They have reduced themselves to contestents in some game.

Their idea of progress, according to Franklin, is having a large number of "page views." It doesn't matter what people think of the pages they are viewing, just that they view them.

They can't count anyone they have "rescued" from any cults, so they are reduced to counting page views to their outer space fantasy space game.

If they aren't pretending to be flying through space, they are questioning whether satan exists or not, or who really wrote the Torah.

And it is from this "elite" group that Godchild, Franklin, and their minor players come here and judge what is heretical or not, as well as dream up stuff to accuse us with.

Well, they can keep it going, because they'll look like the clowns they are every time they dare come over here, and start their nonsense.

I've said it before: they are like the kid on the block that always picks fights with people who continue to kick their buns all over the place,yet they get back up and come for more, until they are turned into mincemeat.

[smyrna]

It is an allegation of the "Higher" Criticism (and illogical_al and Godchild)(which dispenses with documentary or MS. evidence, and therefore differs altogether from "Textual" Criticism) that the five books known as the Pentateuch were not written by, or during the time of Moses, but in the time of a king Manasseh, or even as late as Ezra.
But a definite "book" is spoken of throughout the Old Testament as being constantly written in, with directions how it was to be added to and kept up by the prophets raised up from time to time for that purpose, among others.

The first occurrence is in Ex. 17:14. To this, in the margin, all the others are referred back. They are given below, so that the chain may be examined link by link and its completeness and perfection seen.

Ex. 17:14. Written by Jehovah's command (cp. Deut. 25:19). Heb. "the book" (bassepher).


Ex. 24:4, 7. Written by Moses, and "the book of the covenant sprinkled", with the people.


Ex. 34:27. Jehovah's command, "Write thou".


Num. 33:1, 2. Written by Moses "by the commandment of Jehovah". From the first three months of the first year to last quarter of the fortieth year (cp. Deut. 1:2, 3 with 2:14).


Deut. 1:5. The word "declare" = set forth plainly, and implies writing (the word occurs only in Deut. 27:8 and Hab. 2:2), and includes from Deut. 1:6 to 33:29.


Deut. 4:8 includes more than this book of Deuteronomy, and 4:2 must refer to what was then written (cp. 26:16; 29:21).

[smyrna]

Deut. 17:18. The book kept "before the priests the Levites", and to be copied by the king. This was the standard copy (ch. 31:9, 25, 26); to be read at the Feast of Tabernacles in the Sabbatic years (ch. 31:10-13).


Deut. 31:19, 22, 24. "The song of Moses" to be written (cp. the reason, vv. 16-18). Ascribed to Jehovah.


Josh. 1:8. "This book of the law" came into custody of Joshua (cp. 1-8) as distinct from the book of Joshua, and containing, not Deuteronomy merely, but the whole "book of the law" as thus traced above (cp. Ps. 1:2. Luke 24:44).


Josh. 8:30-35. A copy of the law made from "the book" on the rocks in mount Ebal.


Josh. 23:6, 7 again referred to.


Josh. 24:26. Joshua himself "wrote in the book", and doubtlessly added Deut. 34.


1Sam. 10:25. Samuel continued the writing in "the book". (So the Hebrew.)


1Kings 2:1-4. David charges Solomon with regard to this "written" law of Moses.


2Chron. 17:7-9. Jehoshaphat sent the princes, Levites, and priests, and they "taught in Judah, and had the book of the law of Jehovah with them".


2Chron. 23:11 (2Kings 11:12). It was given to Joash according to Deut. 17:18.


2Chron. 25:4 (2Kings 14:6). Amaziah spared the children of his father's murderers according to "that which was written in the book of the law of Moses" (cp. Deut. 24:4).


2Chron. 30:2, 5, 18. Hezekiah's passover kept in second month as "it is written:. This was written in Num. 9:6-14.


2Chron. 35:12. Josiah's passover kept "as it is written in the book of Moses".


2Kings 17:37. "The law ... which He wrote for you", i.e., Jehovah (cp. v. 35).


2Kings 22:8. "Hilkiah, the high priest ... found the book of the law in the house of the Lord". In v. 10, "Shaphan read it before the king" (Josiah). Huldah the prophetess confirms this reference (vv. 14-20). In 2Chron. 34:14 it is described as "the book of the law of Jehovah by the hand of Moses".


Jeremiah refers to this event when he speaks, as in ch. 15:16.


Isaiah refers to this book as, in 574 his day, a "sealed" book (ch. 29:11-13). The Lord Jesus refers to this as opposed to the "precepts of man" (Matt. 15:1-9. Mark 7:1-13).

Ezra ascribes the law of Moses. Cp. 3:2 (Num. 28, 29); 6:18; 7:6, 10, 14, 21, 25. And all is to be done according to it (cp. 10:3 with 9:11, 12. Lev. 18:24-30, and Deut. 23:3-6).


In Esther 3:8, the laws were extant, and known as "diverse from all people".


Nehemiah (1:7-9) speaks to Jehovah of the "statutes and judgments He gave by Moses".


Neh. 8:8. The book is read according to its requirements.


Neh. 8:14, 17. The Feast of Tabernacles was kept according to Lev. 23:39-43.


Neh. 10:28, 29. A solemn covenant was made "to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God".


Neh. 13:1. "They read in the book of Moses" concerning the law as written in Deut. 23:3, 4.


Daniel in his prayer (ch. 9:11) refers to the curse fulfilled on the nation as "written in the law of Moses the servant of God".


Mal. 4:4 completes the cycle, and refers all to Horeb where the people received the law (as distinct from Sinai, where Moses received it), and to Moses by whom it was given (not to Ezra or to some "Redactors" of a later day).

Source:www.levendwater.org (http://www.levendwater.org)

[smyrna]

Above is proof, coming by way of the WORD OF GOD, that shows the Torah was written by Moses, no matter what the CB people want to speculate about, and embrace the "higher critics" that are mentioned in the above article.

This shows that trhe CB people, who constantly criticize the SC students for listening to a "man, and not God" have refused to believe all of the references form the WORD OF GOD and rather would listen to all these "higher critics" and follow their mindless speculation, rather than the WORD OF GOD.

HYPOCRITES, that is what they are, and here is proof.

And the only way they would answer to these post is to:

Disappear again.

Claim the article has "twisted and perverted" the quoted passages.

Claim I am "attacking" them.

[godchild]

Jesus saith unto him, <font color="ff0000">Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
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<font color="ff0000">Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wi</font>se, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you; but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage; and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hgour wherein the Son of man cometh.

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[skooter942000]

Moses certainly PENNED the First FIVE BOOKS.

Anyone who disagrees, (is lacking YAH'S WISDOM).

Mar 10:1 ¶ And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again.

Mar 10:2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away [his] wife? tempting him.

Mar 10:3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?

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GC is now using scriptures.

Amazing (One for the history books).

I hope she is reading them (When posting them).

-To glean the FACTS from them.


Anyone can cut and paste...

five year olds in school do this.


But to Understand what is being shared
is another story (Altogether).


BTW / - of MATT 25
- It is a Parable (Of the VIRGINS).
- (just so you know)



[QUIZ]

What is the MAIN SUBJECT - (Being addressed)
in this WHOLE CHAPTER?


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[smyrna]

Probably one of the most exorbitant abuses of Scripture is to quote passages irrelevant to a discussion, especially one which establishes the gross dishonesty and cowardice of those who are using Scripture quotations as a way to divert attention to the subjects at hand.

Personally, I have to appreciate that Godchild is proving to all reading that this is precisely what she is doing.

Anybody can whip open the Bible and copy what is there to this forum. But that in no way works to exonerate her or any of her comrades of their past actions, which include lying, bearing false witness, deliberately ignoring proof they are lying and repeating the same allegations, and many other evil tactics.

Her latest actions are just further proof that her and her CB cult members will do ANYTHING to dodge facing the fact they are guilty of these things.

The proof is here for all to see, and she can
paste Scripture here all she wants in a vain attempt to bury it. But I can assure you, it will not work.

[arron]

they shuld be bannned for their lies they send out

[arron]

they shuld be bannned for their lies they send out

[smyrna]

Arron, thank you for answering my post. Yes, I agree that the CBers should be banned for continually lying about us Shepherd's Chapel students.

I also think they should be banned for lying about how Satan doesn't exist, as we can read on Culbuster's Let's Talk About Satan thread.

Hey Arron, weren't you part of that discussion? Do you really think that satan is just a "concept"?

Did you really agree with "illogical_al" when he said Satan is God's attorney? Do you really think satan is given evil instructions by God Himself?

I don't remember you challenging or getting angry at Godchild or "illogical_al" for discussing those things, even though if they were really Bible believers, they would never had that discussion in the first place.

Seems like YOU may be lying, too, Arron.

[oneway]

smyrna wrote: "Arron, thank you for answering my post. Yes, I agree that the CBers should be banned
for continually lying about us Shepherd's Chapel students."


LOL!!! I think he was talking about you all, not them all.

[smyrna]

The problem with your analysis, Oneway, is that Arron didn't cite anything we have said that could be considered a lie. Therefore, he MUST have been talking about the CBers.

The very title of this thread is a lie, since Godchild cannot prove SC students have been banned from "many" Christian Boards. Two is not many, and CB is not exactly a Christian website, since they deny Satan exists.

And don't even bother coming back with any more of your heckling. I will not answer any of your posts, because you are a clown, and your limited knowledge of the Bible has been already exhibited.
No one falls for your garbage over here, that is why you fled to other threads at FN. That is abundantly clear.

You are just an attention starved lunatic, so all we have to do is ignore you, and you will go away.
So get your jollies off and ramble on about how I'm this or that, because that is all you got. And then after I will not address your drivel, you can do your fade again.

[franklin]

This group of threads titled Shepherds Chapel / Arnold Murray was started by Christians to discuss the cult of Shepherd's Chapel and it's cult leader Arnold Murray. His cult followers are the intruders on this site.

Factnet is for public awareness of cultic organizations and their tactics.Not for cults like S.C. to recruit new cult members. You and your fellow S.C. cult members have shown the vicious tactics of your organization. Your own cult leader pulls guns on his opponents.

We are here to make the public aware of you and S.C. You continue to display exactly what we need to make the public aware of.

[ezekiel_37]

We are here to make the public aware of you and S.C. You continue to display exactly what we need to make the public aware of.


Thanks.

[smyrna]

Franklin does not have enough courage to really see if any nationally known groups that fight racism or anti-semitism will listen to him and agree with him. SC has been on TV for over twenty years.

Yet no hate crime has ever been determined to be committed by anyone who claimed the Chapel influenced them. 20 years. Rather, someone who thinks like Franklin attacked the SC studios.

They came here and attacked the SC with lies and other tactics, and pretend they are not guilty of such things. We have proven this over and over.

They do quite a bit of pretending.

Now Frankie also complains that this is an anti-cult website, and we shouldn't be here.

Okay, well then he should complain that SC students have taken over this board. Why complain to us? We don't monitor or censor these boards.Take your whining to the admin. at Factnet.

Franklin wrote:

"We are here to make the public aware of you and S.C. You continue to display exactly what we need to make the public aware of."

Okay, then that is saying we are helping you out. So what is YOUR problem?

[oneway]

"I will not answer
any of your posts, because you are a clown,"


If I'm a clown, then you should be laughing. All I see is..you are offended and very angry. Clowns usually don't offend or make people angry, LOL. It feels good tho, doesn't it, to be offended and angered?

[godchild]

smyrna has been banned from cultbusters, carm, and I think also the season, even though it can't be called a "Christian" board. He was also banned from scripture-truth, and even started one copying their name in order to castigate the owner there, because it exposed am/sc. That's smyrna's No.1 goal in life. Not to share the gospel, not to be generous or loving to his neighbors, but to attack any and everyone (using immature, dishonest, and evil tactics) who exposes am/sc for the cult that it has proven for years to be. The only thing keeping am on the air is his "changing doctrines", hiding the fact that he's nothing more than a neo-nazi in disguise by 'saying' anyone is welcome to his 'public' meetings.

Watchman has been banned from cultbusters and the season, even though it can't be called a Christian board, and probably also from carm.

Angi has been banned from cultbusters.

John Parker has been banned practically everywhere, by his own admission. If scer's deny he's 'one of them', I'll be happy to share some of the posts here where abi, terlu and others most certainly considers him one of them. I'll also share some of his more 'vocal' hatred of Jews, which he, not unlike am/sc, hides under the cover of "Christianity".

I would hope that people read my past posts since 1/06 that show I have posted hundreds if not thousands of scripture to prove these and other cults wrong. I'll be more than happy to repost those too, in the hopes that even one will sink in to those who follow an antichrist.

[smyrna]

Maybe Godchild will be able to see me posting at the Season later today, since I also use the name Smyrna there.

I could care less if I was banned from Cultbusters. Who wants to talk about satan not existing, or that Moses didn't write the Torah, or play out space games. Or even worse, concoct rumors against your enemies?

Banned from Scripture_truth? Hey, they CLOSED Scripture Truth because of me!How courageous is that of the owner?

As for CARM, I consider being banned from there an honor, since I was banned along with some notable people, like Reine who founded The Season.

I find it highly amusing that Godchild would
would describe The Season as not being Christian, while she has no problem with her and her Cultbusters cult members denying the existence of Satan, or claiming Moses did not write the Torah.

[godchild]

smearna doesn't have the sense God gave a billy-goat. No one at cultbusters said satan "doesn't exist". I have never said Moses was not the author of the first five books of the OT.

smearna has no reading comprehension. When the Bible speaks of spiritual, he thinks that means he's an angel. Believe me, he aint no angel!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

The only thing smearna wanted to discuss at cultbusters was sex. Sex between satan and Eve. Sex between Adam and satan. Sex between Adam, Eve and satan. Sex between Adam, Eve and a tree. What a perv! You love am cause he's the master perv! He darned sure aint no prophet or even a good teacher. Just an old rascist perv who hasn't come out of the 1900's, and prefers mythology to God's truths.

[smyrna]

Here is an excerpt from the Let's Talk About Satan Thread at CB, the one that Godchild stated above does not contain any reference to Moses NOT writing the Torah (Yes, Godchild, they also call the Pentateuch):

"SATAN:
EARLY HISTORY: 300 BCE to 100 CE


***Development of the Concept of Satan*** prior to 300 BCE in Israel:
Traditionally, Christians have believed that the Pentateuch [the first 5 books of the Hebrew Scriptures or Old Testament] were written by Moses under the inspiration of God circa 1450 BCE during the nation's exodus from Egypt. The book of Daniel was seen as having been written by Daniel himself, in the 6th century CE, etc. Conservative Christians still believe this today, largely because the Bible mentions the identity of its authors in many locations, and conservatives believe the Bible to be inerrant. However, analysis of the Bible as a historical document since the late 19th century has convinced essentially all non-Evangelical Old Testament scholars that***most of the Pentateuch was not written by Moses.*** It is rather made up of a mixture of writings and editing by three individuals or groups: in 950 BCE by "J", 750 BCE for "E" and 539 BCE for "P". Deuteronomy was written in the 7th century BCE, and Daniel was written in the 2nd century BCE. In the following material, ***we will assume that the liberal interpretation is correct.***

NOWHERE on that thread did Godchild dispute, disagree, or otherwise challenge this argument. She as a matter of fact agreed with it!

Her post # 995 there shows she agreed, as it shows an emoticon with a sign saying "Good posting" followed by "Men have always given satan more power than what he has. We can't say "The devil made me do it."

SCRIPTURE, the WORD of GOD, is what we look for to read about the power satan has, not Godchild or anyone else.

Futhermore, all through that discussion, satan is described as a "concept" and Godchild DID NOT dispute that. It also stated that satan carries out GOD'S evil instructions"! An absolutely heretical view if there ever was one! Again, Godchild did not disagree or offer any comment.

Go there yourself:http://www.cultbusters.com.au/index.php?topic=293.msg0;boardseen#new

[smyrna]

Cont'd

They had a field day throwing doubt on the reality of satan, something any Christian that knows the Bible does not dispute. I guess that leaves out the CB crew.

For the icing on the cake, here is what "illogical_al" said about satan, and Godchild's response:

"illogical_al" post # 562: "To have Satan as a ***one figured object*** does not make sense for god created all and god can destroy all.

Godchild's response: two emoticons. "Good posting",and "I agree"!!!

Looks like Godchild has lied once again! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Lastly, if you look at the posts at CB, you will see many that are about sex, their unproven, rumor mongering false accusation that Pastor Murray was caught in his barn having relations with animals, which tells us where their minds are.

Godchild once again shows her ignorance, because the Bible is full of references to sex, so maybe she thinks that the inspired authors were perverts, too.

One wonders what she thinks of the Song of Solomon, for example. In her mind, the writer MUST be a pervert!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

SMEARNA ONCE AGAIN HAS MISQUOTED WHAT WAS SAID IN HIS FUTILE ATTEMPT TO BUILD AM/SC UP AND TEAR CHRISTIANITY DOWN. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS GOOD POSTING, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN EVERY WORD STATED IS AGREED UPON. MY AGREEMENT WAS NOT FOR EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT MADE, BUT MY AGREEMENT THAT THERE ARE INTERPRETATIONS OF JUST WHAT POWERS SATAN HAS AND WHO HE IS (HE NOT MEANING A PERSON ANYMORE THAN SHE MEANS A SHIP OR SHE MEANS A PICKUP). PLEASE JOIN US AT CULTBUSTERS FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES AND WHERE/HOW AND WHO THEY ORIGINATED FROM.

I WOULD CHALLENGE ANY PERSON TO SHOW VERSES IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SAY ADAM AND EVE "HAD SEX" WITH A TREE OR WITH SATAN. AM/SC HAS BEEN UNABLE TO, BUT CONTINUES TO NOT ONLY TEACH IT, BUT GETS SOME SICK JOY FROM BELIEVING IT, WHICH IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN AND HERESY AT ITS WORST.

RASCIST/BIGOTED/BIASED GROUPS TRY THE OLD "CAIN'S MARK" THEORIES, BUT THEY ARE NOT BIBLICAL, AND ARE SIMPLY A WAY TO TRY AND CONVINCE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HATE OTHERS. MORMONS TEACH CAIN'S CURSE WAS A "DARK SKIN". AM/SC AND OTHER NEO-NAZI GROUPS TEACH THIS OR THAT CAIN WAS THE "SPAWN OF SATAN". ITS NOTHING MORE THAN THE IGNORANCE OF THOSE WITH A HATE AGENDA, AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORD OF GOD.

THEY WILL ALSO SAY CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE IN ENOCH. THIS IS ABSURD AND SIMPLY ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SUGGEST WE SHOULD ACCEPT A BOOK (WHICH IS EXCLUDED IN THE HOLY BIBLE FOR GOOD REASON) THAT TEACHES THEIR BRAND OF PERVERTED CHRISTIANITY, WHEN IN FACT THERE IS NO PROOF ENOCH WROTE THE "BOOK OF ENOCH", ANYMORE THAN "MORMON" WROTE THE BOM. THEY ARE EQUALLY FICTITIONAL.

THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SUGGESTS OR SAYS SATAN HAD PHYSICAL PARTS. IT ONLY SAYS 'HE CAN APPEAR AS'. WHEN ONE LOOKS IN A MIRROR, "IT APPEARS AS A HUMAN BEING" WHEN IT MOST DEFINITELY IS MERELY A REFLECTION. IGNORANT PEOPLE SEE ONLY WHAT THEY "WANT" TO SEE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE HOLY BIBLE TO SUGGEST THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THE WORKING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT ONLY MEN'S DELUSIONS CAUSED BY THEIR DESIRES FOR POWER OR THEIR PERVERSE MENTALITIES.

LET THEM CONTINUE TO GIVE POWERS TO SATAN HE DOES NOT HAVE. LET THEM IGNORE THE LORD'S WORDS WHICH SAY HE WILL COME WITH HIS ANGELS TO GATHER US FROM THE WHOLE EARTH AND THAT WE WILL GO TO BE WITH HIM "IN THE AIR". LET THEM REMAIN FOR SATAN'S DESIRES TO BE FULFILLED, THINKING THEIR LEADER KNOWS THE DAY AND HOUR OF HIS RETURN. THEY'LL TURN AROUND, AND WE'LL BE GONE. IT IS A CHOICE THEY MAKE AND HAVE HAD NUMEROUS WARNINGS OF. LET THEM THINK THEY WILL TEACH CHRISTIANS IN THE MILLENIUM, WHEN IN FACT WE WILL BE WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, THE ONLY HIGH PRIEST, AND HAVING NO NEED FOR MEN WHO THINK THEMSELVES TO BE SUPERIOR BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE SATANS LIE (WE WILL BE GODS). JUST AS THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN INDWELL EVERY MAN, SO IT WILL ALWAYS BE.

[godchild]

SMEARNA ONCE AGAIN HAS MISQUOTED WHAT WAS SAID IN HIS FUTILE ATTEMPT TO BUILD AM/SC UP AND TEAR CHRISTIANITY DOWN. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS GOOD POSTING, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN EVERY WORD STATED IS AGREED UPON. MY AGREEMENT WAS NOT FOR EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT MADE, BUT MY AGREEMENT THAT THERE ARE INTERPRETATIONS OF JUST WHAT POWERS SATAN HAS AND WHO HE IS (HE NOT MEANING A PERSON ANYMORE THAN SHE MEANS A SHIP OR SHE MEANS A PICKUP). PLEASE JOIN US AT CULTBUSTERS FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES AND WHERE/HOW AND WHO THEY ORIGINATED FROM.

I WOULD CHALLENGE ANY PERSON TO SHOW VERSES IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SAY ADAM AND EVE "HAD SEX" WITH A TREE OR WITH SATAN. AM/SC HAS BEEN UNABLE TO, BUT CONTINUES TO NOT ONLY TEACH IT, BUT GETS SOME SICK JOY FROM BELIEVING IT, WHICH IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN AND HERESY AT ITS WORST.

RASCIST/BIGOTED/BIASED GROUPS TRY THE OLD "CAIN'S MARK" THEORIES, BUT THEY ARE NOT BIBLICAL, AND ARE SIMPLY A WAY TO TRY AND CONVINCE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HATE OTHERS. MORMONS TEACH CAIN'S CURSE WAS A "DARK SKIN". AM/SC AND OTHER NEO-NAZI GROUPS TEACH THIS OR THAT CAIN WAS THE "SPAWN OF SATAN". ITS NOTHING MORE THAN THE IGNORANCE OF THOSE WITH A HATE AGENDA, AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORD OF GOD.

THEY WILL ALSO SAY CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE IN ENOCH. THIS IS ABSURD AND SIMPLY ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SUGGEST WE SHOULD ACCEPT A BOOK (WHICH IS EXCLUDED IN THE HOLY BIBLE FOR GOOD REASON) THAT TEACHES THEIR BRAND OF PERVERTED CHRISTIANITY, WHEN IN FACT THERE IS NO PROOF ENOCH WROTE THE "BOOK OF ENOCH", ANYMORE THAN "MORMON" WROTE THE BOM. THEY ARE EQUALLY FICTITIONAL.

THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SUGGESTS OR SAYS SATAN HAD PHYSICAL PARTS. IT ONLY SAYS 'HE CAN APPEAR AS'. WHEN ONE LOOKS IN A MIRROR, "IT APPEARS AS A HUMAN BEING" WHEN IT MOST DEFINITELY IS MERELY A REFLECTION. IGNORANT PEOPLE SEE ONLY WHAT THEY "WANT" TO SEE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE HOLY BIBLE TO SUGGEST THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THE WORKING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT ONLY MEN'S DELUSIONS CAUSED BY THEIR DESIRES FOR POWER OR THEIR PERVERSE MENTALITIES.

LET THEM CONTINUE TO GIVE POWERS TO SATAN HE DOES NOT HAVE. LET THEM IGNORE THE LORD'S WORDS WHICH SAY HE WILL COME WITH HIS ANGELS TO GATHER US FROM THE WHOLE EARTH AND THAT WE WILL GO TO BE WITH HIM "IN THE AIR". LET THEM REMAIN FOR SATAN'S DESIRES TO BE FULFILLED, THINKING THEIR LEADER KNOWS THE TIME OF HIS RETURN, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HIS EXCITED STUDENTS DISCUSSING AT THE SEASON.ORG. THEY'LL TURN AROUND, AND WE'LL BE GONE. IT IS A CHOICE THEY MAKE AND HAVE HAD NUMEROUS WARNINGS OF. LET THEM THINK THEY WILL TEACH CHRISTIANS IN THE MILLENIUM, WHEN IN FACT WE WILL BE WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, THE ONLY HIGH PRIEST, AND HAVING NO NEED FOR MEN WHO THINK THEMSELVES TO BE SUPERIOR BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE SATAN'S LIE (THEY WILL BE gODS, CHOSEN TO RULE OVER OTHERS). JUST AS THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN INDWELL EVERY MAN, SO IT WILL ALWAYS BE.

[godchild]

SMEARNA ONCE AGAIN HAS MISQUOTED WHAT WAS SAID IN HIS FUTILE ATTEMPT TO BUILD AM/SC UP AND TEAR CHRISTIANITY DOWN. WHEN SOMEONE SAYS GOOD POSTING, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN EVERY WORD STATED IS AGREED UPON. MY AGREEMENT WAS NOT FOR EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT MADE, BUT MY AGREEMENT THAT THERE ARE INTERPRETATIONS OF JUST WHAT POWERS SATAN HAS AND WHO HE IS (HE NOT MEANING A PERSON ANYMORE THAN SHE MEANS A SHIP OR SHE MEANS A PICKUP). PLEASE JOIN US AT CULTBUSTERS FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF CHRISTIAN DOCTRINES AND WHERE/HOW AND WHO THEY ORIGINATED FROM.

I WOULD CHALLENGE ANY PERSON TO SHOW VERSES IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SAY ADAM AND EVE "HAD SEX" WITH A TREE OR WITH SATAN. AM/SC HAS BEEN UNABLE TO, BUT CONTINUES TO NOT ONLY TEACH IT, BUT GETS SOME SICK JOY FROM BELIEVING IT, WHICH IS ANTI-CHRISTIAN AND HERESY AT ITS WORST.

RASCIST/BIGOTED/BIASED GROUPS TRY THE OLD "CAIN'S MARK" THEORIES, BUT THEY ARE NOT BIBLICAL, AND ARE SIMPLY A WAY TO TRY AND CONVINCE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HATE OTHERS. MORMONS TEACH CAIN'S CURSE WAS A "DARK SKIN". AM/SC AND OTHER NEO-NAZI GROUPS TEACH THIS OR THAT CAIN WAS THE "SPAWN OF SATAN". ITS NOTHING MORE THAN THE IGNORANCE OF THOSE WITH A HATE AGENDA, AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORD OF GOD.

THEY WILL ALSO SAY CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE IN ENOCH. THIS IS ABSURD AND SIMPLY ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SUGGEST WE SHOULD ACCEPT A BOOK (WHICH IS EXCLUDED IN THE HOLY BIBLE FOR GOOD REASON) THAT TEACHES THEIR BRAND OF PERVERTED CHRISTIANITY, WHEN IN FACT THERE IS NO PROOF ENOCH WROTE THE "BOOK OF ENOCH", ANYMORE THAN "MORMON" WROTE THE BOM. THEY ARE EQUALLY FICTITIONAL.

THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE HOLY BIBLE THAT SUGGESTS OR SAYS SATAN HAD PHYSICAL PARTS. IT ONLY SAYS 'HE CAN APPEAR AS'. WHEN ONE LOOKS IN A MIRROR, "IT APPEARS AS A HUMAN BEING" WHEN IT MOST DEFINITELY IS MERELY A REFLECTION. IGNORANT PEOPLE SEE ONLY WHAT THEY "WANT" TO SEE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE HOLY BIBLE TO SUGGEST THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THE WORKING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT ONLY MEN'S DELUSIONS CAUSED BY THEIR DESIRES FOR POWER OR THEIR PERVERSE MENTALITIES.

LET THEM CONTINUE TO GIVE POWERS TO SATAN HE DOES NOT HAVE. LET THEM IGNORE THE LORD'S WORDS WHICH SAY HE WILL COME WITH HIS ANGELS TO GATHER US FROM THE WHOLE EARTH AND THAT WE WILL GO TO BE WITH HIM "IN THE AIR". LET THEM REMAIN FOR SATAN'S DESIRES TO BE FULFILLED, THINKING THEIR LEADER KNOWS THE TIME OF HIS RETURN, WHICH YOU CAN SEE HIS EXCITED STUDENTS DISCUSSING AT THE SEASON.ORG. THEY'LL TURN AROUND, AND WE'LL BE GONE. IT IS A CHOICE THEY MAKE AND HAVE HAD NUMEROUS WARNINGS OF. LET THEM THINK THEY WILL TEACH CHRISTIANS IN THE MILLENIUM, WHEN IN FACT WE WILL BE WITH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, THE ONLY HIGH PRIEST, AND HAVING NO NEED FOR MEN WHO THINK THEMSELVES TO BE SUPERIOR BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE SATAN'S LIE (THEY WILL BE gODS, CHOSEN TO RULE OVER OTHERS). JUST AS THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN INDWELL EVERY MAN, SO IT WILL ALWAYS BE.

[godchild]

FOR AM/SC TO TEACH ADAM AND EVE HAD SEX WITH SATAN, HE (AND HIS STUDENTS WHO BRING THESE LIES HERE), THEY ARE SAYING THE <u>FIRST</u> MAN "ADAM" AND THE <u>FIRST</u> WOMAN "EVE" (SEE <font size="+1">CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA) </font>PRACTICED <font size="+1"><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font>.</font> THE WORD SPEAKS OF "THE MARK OF THE <font size="+1">BEAST.</font>" THIS IS SPEAKING OF SATAN AS THE BEAST. THE WORD TEACHES <font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font><font color="ff0000">•</font> IS AN ABOMINATION IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. WOULD GOD NOT HAVE SAID THIS WAS THEIR PUNISHMENT (REMOVAL FROM THE EDEN) IF THEY HAD COMMITTED THIS SIN. OF COURSE HE WOULD. INSTEAD, SCER'S AND THEIR ILK WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THEIR SPECULATION IS THE TRUTH, AND THE WORD, BY SAYING THEIR SIN WAS <font size="+1">DISOBEDIENCE</font> TO HIS COMMAND IS A LIE.

SMYRNA, WHO PROFESSES TO BE A CATHOLIC, IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF ONE WHO THE BIBLE WARNS OF, "WILL COME FROM WITHIN" (THE CHURCH), PROFESSING FALSE DOCTRINE TO TURN BELIEVERS AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. HE PROUDLY ADMITS TRYING TO CONVINCE 'MONKS' THAT THE BEASTILIALITY OF SATAN, ADAM AND EVE IS A TRUE DOCTRINE, AND YET THE POPE (THEIR LEADER WHO SUPPOSEDLY SPEAKS FOR GOD) IS MISINFORMED, BECAUSE SOMEONE LIKE AM IS RIGHT. GIVE ME A BREAK! IS AM A PROPHET? WOE TO THEM THAT BELIEVE THIS AND FOLLOW HIM INSTEAD OF THE LORD.

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SMEARNA WENT TO CONFESSION? DOES HE EVER? OR DOES HE THINK HE'S ABOVE THE ADMONITIONS OF 'ONE OF' HIS CHURCHES.

JESUS SAID HE WOULD RATHER WE BE UNBELIEVERS RATHER THAN 'HOT AND COLD'. SMEARNA NEEDS TO SEE A PRIEST OR PASTOR FOR SERIOUS COUNSELLING. I RECOMMEND THE SAME FOR ANY SCER WHO ARE MEMBERS OF OTHER DENOMINATIONS.

AM TELLS HIS STUDENTS THEY CAN BELONG TO OTHER CHURCHES AND STILL LEARN TRUTHS FROM HIM, EVEN THOUGH HIS SO CALLED TRUTHS ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE OF THESE OTHER CHURCHES. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN A PARENT TELLING THEIR CHILD IT IS WRONG TO USE DRUGS, BUT USE THEM HIM/HERSELF WITH EXCUSES THAT MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AND CAN ONLY CONFUSE THE CHILD. STICK TO THE WORD OF GOD, AND YOU WON'T GO WRONG. LISTEN AND FOLLOW AM/SC AND YOU MAY WONDER WHY HIS PROPHESIES DON'T COME TO PASS (THE END IN 1981), OR WHY THEY STILL BELIEVE HIM WHEN THEY FAIL, AND NOT QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED.

OUR GOD IS NOT A GOD OF CONFUSION. HE NEVER CHANGES. HE IS ALWAYS FAITHFUL AND TRUE. HOW DIFFICULT THAT SEEMS TO BE TO UNDERSTAND FOR SOME.

[oneway]

godchild,


you stated: "AM TELLS HIS STUDENTS THEY CAN BELONG TO OTHER CHURCHES AND STILL LEARN
TRUTHS FROM HIM,"


There is a reason for this. And smyrna is a prime example of this reason. And that is so these students can introduce AMs heresies into these other churches. This is what AM is hoping for.

[smyrna]

Well, GODCHILD'S Scripture verse paste jobs didn't last long I see.

The first clue Godchild is beside herself (again)is spamming the board with multiple copies of her post.

The second clue is that she claims I misquoted "illogical_al" which is impossible, since I copied and pasted the material directly from the Let's Talk About Satan thread at cultbusters.com.au

Third, she then tries to wiggle out of her agreeing with "illogical_al" by now saying she didn't agree with everything he posted.

The question then is: why did she not challenge his outrageous comments?

After all, this is a guy that stated clearly that satan was a "concept" (see my post #2077 above)among other things, including that satan carries out GOD'S evil instructions, something she also did not challenge, and a host of other equally heretical, speculative ides, she also did not disagree or challenge,or even comment upon. All, to her, (until I called her on it) was: a Good Posting!

Now, after weeks of mentioning this time and again, she tries to make up excuses.

It is the same pattern she used when she tried to escape her openly doubting the Virgin Birth.

Now for Enoch. She wrote:

"THEY WILL ALSO SAY CHRISTIANS DON'T BELIEVE IN ENOCH. THIS IS ABSURD AND SIMPLY ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO SUGGEST WE SHOULD ACCEPT A BOOK (WHICH IS EXCLUDED IN THE HOLY BIBLE FOR GOOD REASON)"

That's another lie, because MANY Christians, including the WHOLE ETHIOPIAN Church, accept Enoch as a book important to Christianity and Judaism. She has NO IDEA how the Councils assembled the Bible, and what other books they held with high regard.

By the way, I don't know how many times Godchild needs to be reminded that Enoch was QUOTED in the New Testament, CANONICAL Book of Jude!

She also has NO CLUE why certain Books were included or not. She seems think all the authors had to be known, which is absurd. Especially since Godchild also agrred with "illogical_al" that:

***we will assume that the liberal interpretation is correct.*** when I comes to claiming authorship of the entire Torah! This "liberal interpretation" includes believing:

"However, analysis of the Bible as a historical document since the late 19th century has convinced essentially all non-Evangelical Old Testament scholars that***most of the Pentateuch was not written by Moses.***" - "Illogical_al"

She can't squeeze out of this one!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

As for her other comments, we've been through all those arguments before, and if she doesn't agree, tough, I could care less. I'm just pointing out her lies and hypocrisy, along with her other CB buddies.

[skooter942000]

- Build SC up?

- &amp; tear CHRISTIANITY down?





"A Delusional remark"


Pot: - to kettle
- (your color is plain to SEE)




Double posting yet again.


...Waste of space
....Waste of time
......Waste of life



Gen 3:3 But of the fruit 06529 of the tree 06086
which [is] in the midst 08432 of the garden 01588,
God 0430 hath said 0559 , Ye shall not eat 0398
of it, neither shall ye touch 05060 it,
lest 06435 ye die 04191 .

HEBREW WORD- "NAGA"!!! = TOUCH (NOT)

- There is your PROOF. (yet again)

5060 naga` naw-gah' a primitive root; properly, to touch, i.e. lay the hand upon (for any purpose; <font color="ff0000">euphem., to lie with a woman)</font>; by implication, to reach (figuratively, to arrive, acquire); violently, to strike (punish, defeat, destroy, etc.):--beat, (X be able to) bring (down), cast, come (nigh), draw near (nigh), get up, happen, join, near, plague, reach (up), smite, strike, touch.


To LIE with a WOMAN is a EUPHEMISM.
A nicer way of making a POINT!!!!


(For satan did this) "HE TOUCHED HER".
- He touched her where he ought naught!!!

- And CHILDREN were PRODUCED!!!



Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and abode not in the truth, because there
is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar,
and the father of it.




The Fallen Angels followed suit in Gen 6.
- See the book of JUDE = (More PROOF)

- CHILDREN were the END result there too.


The FLOOD in NOAH'S DAY,
(came to be)
to destroy the unnatural PROGENY.

They were not HALF SNAKE PEOPLE.
That another religions (MIS- "TAKE").

But their FLESH was WARPED!!!
Six fingers (&amp;) Toes.
Unnaturally LARGE BEINGS.
- 15 ft tall or MORE!!!

- GOLIATH is PROOF




GC keeps making accusations ,
(That we are not in CHRIST).


PROVE IT DEAR ( 'i' CLAIM i "am"_)

'i' claim JOHN 3:16 &amp; 17



- This makes you a LIAR ,(and FALSE ACCUSER)!!!
- (CHRIST said no one can pluck me from HIS HAND).


Is this something you can claim?
- Look to your FRUIT!!!




The cedar in your EYE ,(Is EVER-GROWING).

Anyone siding with this ANGRY BITTER "lady",
is in a world of HURT.

- Never wish god-speed upon EVIL!!!

- NO gs for gc http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif




Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him,
Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain,
vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.
<font color="ff0000">And the LORD set a mark upon Cain,
lest any finding him should kill him. </font>







<font color="0000ff">
Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him
only shalt thou serve.
</font>


BTW/ the only hate i see here,
- is from you, - (...and yours).




Bunching us in with MORMONS, (Is silly).
- And the RACIST NAZI'S...

- is EVIL!!!





Don <*))><

[skooter942000]

- The TARES are not to be PHYSICALLY HARMED.


- That is Pretty CLEAR!!!

[godchild]

SEE THESEASONS.ORG 'BIBLE STUDY'. YOU WILL SEE LESSONS BY ROGER C., A STUDENT OF AM. (AM/SC DOESN'T ALLOW HIS OWN WORDS TO BE SPREAD, AS THE LORD TOLD HIS DISCIPLES TO DO. WHY IS THAT, I WONDER? COULD IT BE BECAUSE HE CAN'T BEAR TO BE SHOWN WRONG? COWARD!!)

ONE EXAMPLE:
Mark 13:6 "For many shall come in My name, saying, `I am the Christ; and shall deceive many."

Today there are thousands of ministers that present themselves to you, and tell you that they are of Christ. They tell you to be saved, and to believe on Jesus, yet they never quite get into God's Word enough to where you will understand the events of our time. <u>They don't prepare you in a way to keep you from being deceived by this false christ that shall come first</u>. So where does the deception come from? RELIGION! The deception comes from false messiahs, false teachers, and that sweet old minister that just never gets around to prepare his flock for the coming of this false christ.
------------------------------
THIS IS A FLAT OUT LIE. I HAVE, AS I'M SURE EVEN THE HALF-CATHOLIC SMEARNA, THE HALF-BAPTIST ANGIE, AND THE HALF-CALLED FOLLOWER KF CANNOT DENY IS; THE CHURCHES AND MINISTERS WE HAVE LEARNED (AND STILL LEARN FROM) TEACH REVELATION. IT IS PEOPLE LIKE AM/SC AND HIS FOLLOWERS WHO, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO UNIFY THE CHURCH (BELIEVERS), DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO DIVIDE.

DOES AM/SC DENY HIS IS A RELIGION? WHY NOT CALL IT "WORDS OF AM", INSTEAD OF "SHEPHERD'S <u>CHAPEL</u>? IS HE TRYING TO DRAW PEOPLE IN WITH A LIE, WHEN HE KNOWS FULL WELL HE IS ONLY VOICING HIS OPINIONS AND FROM UNINSPIRED AUTHORS AND TEACHERS HE BORROWS FROM? IT'S AN EASY/OBVIOUS QUESTION TO ANSWER.

IN ANSWER TO THE PREVIOUS POST, JUST AS MUCH HARM CAN BE DONE TO PEOPLE WITH LIES AS WITH PHYSICAL ATTACKS. CALLING KENITES (WHO ARE JEWS) SATAN'S SEED IS ABOUT AS HARMFUL AS YOU CAN GET WITHOUT BUILDING CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND APPOINTING OTHERS TO DO THE DIRTY DEEDS. SCER'S ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THAT FACT, BUT DOES THAT STOP THEM? OF COURSE NOT. EVEN THOUGH THE HOLY BIBLE TEACHES SAYS IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT SOMEONE, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.

[godchild]

WHO HAS BEEN PERSECUTED AND MURDERED FOR THE DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST? JEWS, AND NO ONE CAN DENY IT (EXCEPT THE STUPID NEO-NAZIS AND OTHER RASCIST PIGS WHO DENY THE HOLOCAUST). DID THE JEWS <font size="+1">PHYSICALLY </font>KILL JESUS CHRIST? NO, THE ROMANS DID AFTER THEY CRIED (WITH THEIR VOICES) "CRUCIFY HIM, CRUCIFY HIM." JUST WHAT DO SCERS THINK THEIR CRIES OF "KENITES ARE THE SEED OF SATAN. THEY ARE EVIL. THEY ARE TO BE WATCHED. BY THE WAY, THEY LIVE 'AMONGST' THE JEWS, THAT HOW YOU CAN FIND THEM. BEWARE OF KENITES." AND IF YOU ARE A REAL SICKO, KILL THEM AND WE WILL BE INNOCENT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO THE ACTUAL "PHYSICAL" DEED. WOE UNTO YOU!!

[smyrna]

Godchild thinks I really care what she or anyone else, including Oneway, believes. I could care less, and thus I could care less if they believe SC teachings, Catholic teachings, or not.

I can recount many posts where I have said this, and also that I am here mainly to show the lies and hypocrisy of SC detractors, not to convert anyone.

My conversations with the monks are just that, telling them what I have learned, and they are free to accept it or reject it. That is their business.

For the benefit of others besides these two morons:

The Catholic Church's structure allows for a free flow of ideas theologically, and it is also NOT a cult as some have claimed. There are solid examples of dogma that the Church will never waver from.
However, what Adam and Eve did or didn't do in the garden, other than sin, whatever that sin actually was has always been discussed, is not something that is dogmatic.

In the Humani Generis, Pope Pius VII gave his Encyclical regarding the study of human origin and development and the theological difficulties that may arise.

Though these pearls thrown before the swine that are Godchild and Oneway will only cause them to perhaps cause them to try and twist and squirm something out of the Encyclical that would be (in their mind) a violation of it as applied to Chaple teachings on gensis, they will fall into my trap, which I freely allow them to know I have,since I always try to anticipate their next moves, which is relatively easy.

Considering their limited intellects, which are clouded by hatred, malice, and in Oneway's case, merely focused on being an agitator with an apparently split personality, a street punk turned cyber-punk, who, as many times as he gets slapped around, gets up and comes back for more, since he has nothing better to do but bounce from thread to thread with his ridiculous comments.

He is a clown, because he does make me laugh. I don't come here to get angry, I've always had great fun with this. If I didn't, I wouldn't bother coming here.
Exposing liars and cowards is rewarding. Oneway and Godchild don't produce anything here but laughs, via their self damaging actions.

(Message edited by smyrna on April 02, 2007)

[smyrna]

Godchild just keeps lying and lying. I can show many posts that we all know she has read, that make it undeniably clear that the SC KNOWS that the teaching of the Wheat and the Tares does NOT ALLOW us to try and identify with intention to harm anyone that we may suspect is a Kenite, or even evil.

I know Godchild will try to compare what so and so said on the Figtree and twist it into some hate speech, but the fact is she will not see any discussion about exterminating or harming anyone.
I dare her to show anywhere that SC folks would make statements that can be described as she described them.

In her sick mind, for her to accuse us as she does, that means if we say criminals should be identified and punished, this automatically means that we should either form or advocate the formation of vigilante groups to do it!

More stupidity from Godchild. Will it ever end? Let's hope not!

[arron]

smyrna i was NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CBs i was referring to the shepherds chapl bunch of nuts that should be banned why dont yopu and the other nuts quit twisting everyones word (including the bible ) around.

[oneway]

smyrna,

I want to respond to Post Number: 2083 http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif but I can't quit laughing. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif Perhaps tommorrow http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif if I'm still not laughing http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif I might try to respond to that post. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[smyrna]

Oneway, by his own admittance, doesn't have enough self control to respond to my post.

Is anyone surprised? He shows loss of control quite often. Maybe he needs to up or lower the dosage.

Don't bother responding, Oneway, if you have to try so hard. Just concentrate on getting control of yourself. That'll sap enough of your nervous energy.

[smyrna]

Arron wrote: "smyrna i was NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CBs i was referring to the shepherds chapl bunch of nuts that should be banned why dont yopu and the other nuts quit twisting everyones word (including the bible ) around."


Hey Arron, glad you are feeling better.

Maybe you can answer why you were on that thread where they denied satan existed or that Moses wrote the Torah. I can't get anyone else to tell me why they needed to even address the issue. Maybe you can clear things up for us.

[smyrna]

Hey, guess what? I'm registered as SmyrnaFN at CARM!

I guess Godchild will have to deal with that!

I'll probably start with the Catholic boards. Some good stuff there.

[smyrna]

Oh yeah,

I'm sure she'll write Matt Slick and tell him about my website.

But that's ok. If I get kicked off, I have a few other aliases with different IPs to use.

Like the character Wolfgar says in the 1980's movie Nighthawks: "There is no security."

So the issue of who is banned and who is not is just silly. We can go anywhere, and do anything. If we get banned, we just regroup and do it again if we think it is worth it.

[oneway]

"Hey, guess what? I'm registered as SmyrnaFN at CARM!

I guess Godchild will have to deal with that!

I'll probably start with the Catholic boards. Some good stuff there'


That sounds like a good place to start and stay at. See, I do agree with you. Won't see me visiting that board. I won't have to worry about you bothering me, lol.
Fortunately there are no SC boards there, ie: no place to discuss the ss nonsense.

(Message edited by oneway on April 02, 2007)

[smyrna]

Well, even though he is clearly a bit shaky, Oneway seems to have recovered a bit. Too bad he is all caught up in the same obsession that the CBers are.

Maybe he should reconsider joining the Space Heads there.

Then he too can call the existence of satan into question, or deny Moses wrote the Torah.

[arron]

smyrna.. to my knowledge i did not know that anyone at cb denied the exsistance of satan or that moses wrote the torah/

[godchild]

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Traditionally, Christians have believed that the Pentateuch [the first 5 books of the Hebrew Scriptures or Old Testament] were written by Moses under the inspiration of God circa 1450 BCE during the nation's exodus from Egypt.
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It is am/sc that is against Christian tradition, not the other way around. He says (as do his students)so, over and over again.

[oneway]

Since these threads tend to go off topic anyway, I'll post this in here. I was just over at CBs and for the longest time my browser never supported the RPG folder. Today it's actually working in my browser, don't know why, but I've been doing a little reading in that folder. I had no idea these
people were that talented. I would love to see someone such as Pixar pick up their dialog, add animation to it and make a full screen motion picture, it's that good. All of you talking bad about what they are saying, you're just jealous of their cleverness, that's the only thing I can figure.

[smyrna]

I think it is HILARIOUS that Godchild now cuts and pastes what WE SC students all KNOW, that Moses wrote the Torah (Pentateuch)

This STILL does not come anywhere near explaining why she didn't place her cut and paste job on the Let's Talk About Satan thread at CB, so "illogical_al" can see he was way off the deep
end?

Instead, she posted emoticons saying "good posting" and "I agree" to all that he said!

In FACT, if you just scroll up to my posts 2056 through 2058, you all will see how it was explained that Moses in fact, according to the WORD OF GOD and not some cut and paste job from another website, that Moses did indeed write the Torah, as is so stated in the WORD OF GOD and I gave the pertinent verses so anyone can check that out.

Now the Let's Talk About Satan Thread is still at Cultbusters for anyone to see, and there is NO CHALLENGE to "illogical_al" and his assumption that they take the "liberal" position of accepting the Documentary Hypothesis (a term that apparently he was not familiar with) and claimed that the Torah was written by multiple authors, as we see above.

Now Godchild lies once again, and insinuates that the SC teaches this ridiculous hypothesis. She can look all she wants, but she won't find anyone from SC that thinks satan does not exist or that Moses didn't write the Torah.

This must be liars' day at CB.

Arron says: "i did not know that anyone at cb denied the exsistance of satan or that moses wrote the torah (above) which I proved cannot be true.

Now Godchild posts something we already know,
and pretends she has always believed this,but the Let's Talk About Satan thread at CB tells us otherwise.

It's funny that "illogical_al"/"Observer" here at FN hasn't bothered to try and spin off this controversy,and that is because he really does believe that satan does not exist, as I have shown, and is a theological liberal, which is strangely quite alright for the rigidly fundamentalist CBers.

It's just another example of their collective hypocrisy. They let, as you may remember, '2pillars' outrageous statements about Genesis and other subjects stand without any challenge, even though there is no way that they did not see his claims as outrageous as they view the teachings of the SC.

I tell you, proving these detractors are hypocrites is incredibly easy, which means that anyone can see through it.

[smyrna]

Hey Oneway,

In case you didn't notice,Gene Rodenberry and the producers of Star Trek gave Frankie the idea for his Outer Space fantasy.

Therefore, that thinly veiled plagiarism called Star Date One and related threads are something any 10 year old can come up with, once given the initial concept, i.e. Star Trek.

All your post tells us is that you are way too easily impressed.

[fatherofaking]

You are not even a Christian! So, why don't you leave Bible assessment up to those that proclaim the promises therein.

the difference between me and you watchman is that i live what you claim to believe and you do not.

i know much more about "bible assesment" than you think i do.

do you think i come here to make a fool of myself?
you must realize by now that i am smarter than that.

satan is not the author of the nkjv.
anyone could make that same claim about the version you use, and neither could prove the other false.
unless of course we could ask the assumed author ourselves.

since that is not possible, anyone making a statement like that just opens himself up to ridicule.

the existence of satan is no more provable than the existence god is provable.

[dodge]

Stage Director – The first two websites you posted, “Ranks of Scientists Doubting Darwin’s Theory on the Rise,” and “Scientists who support intelligent design” are from the Discovery Institute, a think tank based in Seattle that advocates intelligent design. They are well-known for their anti-evolution sentiments. Ever heard of the “wedge strategy?” It is their program to replace science and materialism with Christian and theistic convictions. One of their main contributors is Howard Ahmanson, Jr., a Christian fundamentalist who’s stated goal is the total integration of biblical law into our lives.

The third website you pointed to is from “Free Congress Foundation,” with links to Dominionism and Islamophobic views. It’s a right-wing group that organizations such as Theocracy Watch is looking at as a Dominionist movement.

Are you a right-wing conservative creationist?

[stage_director]

QUOTE
Logic_Al is too big of a coward to come to Factnet, sign in as Logic_Al, and say so here.
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Are you saying you think it takes courage and daring to post on FactNet? lol Now, that's a rediculous thought ...

[smyrna]

Yeah, Frankie,

And it was snake eggs they are talking about in Genesis 3:15, right? Just like it says, right, Frankie?

The Bible also says Satan doesn't exist, just like illogical_al says, right, Frankie? The Bible denies Moses wrote the Torah, according to illogical_al, who you have never disagreed with, right, Frankie?

Yes, Frankie, the Bible says only what YOU want it to say to you, or what any other CBer says it says, isn't that right, Frankie?http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif