Godchildbs SC Fund Drive

[angie0401]

I'm in, smyrna. I think I'll go ahead and order the children's Bible and hubby was getting ready to order the studies on the Book of Acts. In addition, I'll donate double what we usually do.

Maybe if we do it in honor Vivian, Pastor Murray will mention it on the air. I'm sure arron will let us know what Pastor Murray says that day..

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">I'm in also. I will make sure to say it's in honor of Vivian.</font> http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[smyrna]

"I'm sure arron will let us know what Pastor Murray says that day.."

"I will make sure to say it's in honor of Vivian."

Hey, maybe we should put this note in each donation and order: "This donation is in MEMORY of Vivian Hadden"

The old anti-SC Vivian is gone, The reborn Vivian is now an SC student!

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[godchild]

To danfactnet@gmail.com
<font size="+1"><font color="ff0000">I have another complaint. smyrna, a shepherd's chapel student, has started a topic under my user name titled "Godchild's SC fund drive". I take great offense to this. I have been witnessing to these people for a long time AGAINST SC FALSE DOCTRINES.

If people are allowed to do this on factnet, it is allowing false statements to stand, and to be the title of topics I am against, not for.

Please delete this thread and tell smyrna to desist. It is on the Arnold Murray/Shepherd's Chapel threads. When people do a web search on am/sc, I do not want my username to 'pop-up' under an assumed supportive position for a group I strongly consider a cult.

Thank you,

'godchild'</font></font>

[smyrna]

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[smyrna]

Hello Dan,

"Godchild" informed us that she complained to you about a thread I (smyrna)titled Godchild's SC Fund Drive. (Shepherd's Chapel Arnold Murray threads) I believe she is being mellow dramatic, because she has been an active poster on these boards for a long time, and any search engine would automatically refer those who "Google" her name to the SC threads. So I think she inadvertently has connected herself to the SC by constantly posting there.

If you read the few posts there, you'll see that it is a tongue-in-cheek thread meant to be in jest.

Anyone with any reading comprehension skills will see this is true.

I ask that you not delete the thread. In turn, I will post that the thread was intended as humorous and why I see it as such.

By the way, I also hope that you not begin censoring our discussions by taking sides. I value FactNet for their wide parameters, to allow people to really air what is on their minds.

I also want to donate funds to FactNet, and do so around tax time. Can you please tell me if there is a tax deduction for this.

Sincerely,

Peter (smyrna)

[preachers_daughter]

Wow smyrna. Are you so afraid that you may be banned, that you feel you need to "buy" your time here. Literally. How sad! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/sad.gif

[fullofquestions]

I'm wondering that too.

[smyrna]

What is sad is that all you people probably have never donated money to FactNet, which pretty much makes you freeloaders.

Factnet can ban me tomorrow, but I'd still donate.

Why?

I can always sign on with another name/IP

2. I've used the forum enough already to justify donating even if I chose to not use it anymore. I still give to my alma mater, even though I've been out of school for many years.

As for you, it's typical of the Astronauts to place a negative connotation on anything your enemies do.

We are nice to KF, and Frankie says we are 'lovebombing' her, for example. We can't even show compassion to anyone without one of you freaks accusing us of wrongdoing.

And THAT is what is truly sad.

[smyrna]

Wonder no more, full of questions. I did not offer any bribe, as P_D suggests. I asked about a tax break, because I'm not in the habit of writing to the moderators, and so I used the opportunity to ask. And I personally don't care whether you believe that or not.

This is eerily similar to when Frankie accused the "serpent seeder women" "picking up men" allegation and his so-called evidence was email communication that the women even posted just this last week, to show how innocent it was.

If I was guilty of offering some bribe, you really think I would have posted a copy of my email to the moderator on this board?

How many more times will you show us your lack of common sense?

[preachers_daughter]

Oh come on smyrna. You never made a post before, where you offered to donate to FactNet, until godchild posted her letter. I mean, come on. All you had to do was go to the Home page and click on "Make a $ donation" and you would have found all the info you needed. You just put your stupid bribe out there for everyone to see! You are pathetic!!

Also, you are the one that is lacking in that area of common sense, smyrna.(see above paragraph. It explains why) Maybe if you offer to double your donation, they will delete your damaging post for you!! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[smyrna]

Sorry p_d, you still defy common sense. If I was offering a bribe, would I have posted it here/you gotta be kidding me.

"Oh come on smyrna. You never made a post before, where you offered to donate to FactNet, until godchild posted her letter."

Now why would I post a message saying I donated to FN? It still doesn't make sense, that I would openly post what you claim is a bribe. Like I really want to give you people ammunition!

Sorry, your space mission isn't panning out for you.

[arron]

smynra .. if i hear him i will gladly post the insaness that he preaches
i could tell you of one that has already begun to do what you all do and that is to post saying we did something when they have no proff and cant show it. that is just how you all act and that is why said they were scers. and again they have proved to be just like you all

[smyrna]

Arron, that is quite a round about way to express your interest in donating to the Shepherd's Chapel. Just write the check and send it in:

SC
P.O. BOX 416
Gravette, AR. 72736

And be sure to note that "Godchild" at FactNet was the reason you sent it!

[preachers_daughter]

smyrna-"that I would openly post what you claim is a bribe. Like I really want to give you people ammunition!"

You did! That is why you lack common sense!!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

You only posted that email, because godchild posted hers. Thing is, it back fired on you.

Use your brain next time, then you wouldn't have to keep defending your actions! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

So, are you going to double it?? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif

[smyrna]

I'm doubling my donation to the Chapel, yes of course. Actually, I believe I said I'd triple it on another thread.

Now as for the others, we are all donating to the Chapel more than usual, and we credit Godchild with inspiring the idea.

Hey, I wonder if I don't get banned from here, if you all will think the "bribe" worked?

[preachers_daughter]

Oh, let's hope it does work! Let's...hope...it...dooooooes!!!

Whatever would we do without your spirit of love and kindness, gracing our presence everyday here at FactNet? Who would show us how a true Christian is supposed to treat others? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/proud.gif

[smyrna]

Yeah, you are right, P_D. I really would want to stay right here, and "lovebomb" everyone.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif

[smyrna]

"Whatever would we do without your spirit of love and kindness, gracing our presence everyday here at FactNet?"-P_D

Smyrna: Well, you could always rely on Frankie. You know, the guy who suggested to IhaveSinned that he should have male on male sex with an orangutan?
Or accuse "serpent seeder women" of picking up men on Factnet with no real proof?
Or go on nearly every thread on FN and agitate people who don't agree with Franklinism?

I think you'd do quite well depending on your Captain for showing you a fine model for Christian living.

[preachers_daughter]

Then you may want to offer them a little more moolah. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

I say just triple your original bribe, I mean donation, just to be safe. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[preachers_daughter]

What is wrong with male on male sex with an orangutan? You believe Adam had male on male sex with satan!! helloooo. How is THAT different?

[preachers_daughter]

smryna-Or accuse "serpent seeder women" of picking up men on Factnet with no real proof?


You had no real proof of what you accused him of, so drop it!!

smryna-Or go on nearly every thread on FN and agitate people who don't agree with Franklinism?

Sorry, there are many threads that I do not go on, so I have no clue what all he says, plus I don't follow him around like a love sick puppy, checking up on his every move. I'll leave that up to you!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif

Goodnight!

[angie0401]

You had no real proof of what you accused him of, so drop it!!
But we did have at least one person have a vehement dispute right here on FN accusing him of that very thing. As soon as she recanted, we no longer accused him of it, did we?

He, on the other hand, accused us of picking up men with no proof and even after dowen posted the emails and absolutely denied that there was any such thing going on, franklin STILL didn't apologize and acted as if it were true.

Nothing new for him or any of your cult, though. Lie, Accuse, Deny, Repeat. Lie, Accuse, Deny, Repeat.

Hopefully, we can help free you all from this harmful cult that you have become ensnared in. I know it will not be easy and that you don't see it yet, but with enough help and time, we can help you be free again.

I'll be awaiting your condescending remarks.
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[dowen]

Hold on now ladies.

Being the eldest of six children, I remember Mom at times calling a family wide "time out". I think this may be a time for just such a thing.

Deep breath everybody.........lol.

Okay, everybody calm now?
Good.

I see that my name keeps coming up here, and various accusations keep flying, so let me once and for all set the record straight.

Not one time have I been "hit on" by any Shepherds Chapel students.

Not once.

I hope this will settle this argument. If anyone wants proof, e-mail me at dowen21@msn.com and I will forward him/her as much proof as they could possibly deal with.

Now, the accusation was made, and some may ask, "Why?". Well, the truth is, it is my fault. I have participated in various WWW discussion boards for several years, and have always used my real name/e-mail/even cell # on several boards. Any of you who have working usernames at CultBusters can log on and even see pictures of my wife and I. I have always used this approach to discussion boards because I want to be taken seriously, and I always back my word with something solid...in this case my name. At any rate, I foolishly made an offhand comment to another poster here that I had been hit on by a couple of women on the web. And I have been, just not by anyone here. Somehow, this got twisted and lost in the jungle that is cyberspace.

Sooooooo, yeah, truth can be stranger than fiction at times. Anyway, I hope all will let this drop soon.

Yours,
DOwen.

[angie0401]

Thanks, dowen.

I just wanted this cleared up. I appreciate your posting this and hope that this will be the end of this lie about the SC women.

Have a good night! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Thank you Dowen. You truly are a stand up guy. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Hi Angie, You said in post #510
: (PD's quote:You had no real proof of what you accused him of, so drop it!!)

Angie's reply:But we did have at least one person have a vehement dispute right here on FN accusing him of that very thing. As soon as she recanted, we no longer accused him of it, did we?

He, on the other hand, accused us of picking up men with no proof and even after dowen posted the emails and absolutely denied that there was any such thing going on, franklin STILL didn't apologize and acted as if it were true.

You are absolutely right Angie. It was one of their own which mentioned Franklin's inappropriate behavior. (It was mentioned in the Cultblunders thread part 1, around the time of Thanksgiving or a little before.) We had nothing to do with it. When this person later recanted, we dropped it. End of story.

Franklin on the other hand attacked us with absolutely no proof whatsoever. And to top it off, no apology after he was proven wrong. Shame really, those were some serious allegations he was making about us. I know for a certainty Jesus does not approve of bearing false witness.

I'm done with Franklin. I won't answer any of his questions. I'll refute his lies, but his questions.....forget it. He's been proven a liar and will stoop to any level to try and win. It seems that's all it's about with him....winning at any cost.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/sad.gif</font>

[dowen]

"Thank you Dowen. You truly are a stand up guy"

Whoa, whoa whoa!

You can't say that!

You are hitting on me!

For shame. (DOwen indignantly stomping foot)



Sorry, I couldn't resist. It is so easy for things to get twisted, and this is a perfect example.

<font color="0000ff">Terluvire, thanks for the kind words, you are a wonderful person and I count myself blessed to have ever gotten to know you.</font>


Ooops, I just crossed the line and tried to pick up Mrs. Terluvire.....where will I ever stop...
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[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">LOL Dowen, now that is funny!! lololol</font>

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Dowen,

I would like to add:

Tell your parents I said kudos to them!! They did a fine job raising you.</font> http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[smyrna]

P_D wrote: "What is wrong with male on male sex with an orangutan? You believe Adam had male on male sex with satan!! helloooo. How is THAT different?"

Well first of all, context must be regarded. Frankie chose to jokingly suggest that IHS have sex with a male orangutan.

Secondly, the Word of God is no joke. Our quest to understand it is not a joke either. And so without getting back into the SS argument,but sticking to the matter at hand, I'd say there is quite a bit of difference.

P_D says: "Sorry, there are many threads that I do not go on, so I have no clue what all he says, plus I don't follow him around like a love sick puppy, checking up on his every move. I'll leave that up to you!"

Who's following who? Frankie comes over here from his fictional Star Base, not the other way around.


You know, what I find amazing about people like P_D, is that they say they belong to some Cultbusting group, but they are fiercely loyal to a guy who is a known liar and hypocrite. They never admit that Frankie is guilty of anything, and that is way too cultic fr them to be accusing anyone or doing any Cultbusting, which of course is a huge joke with me.

I'd be willing to bet that not one person that has been witness to the clowns at CB can claim they (CB) were influential in deprogrammimg them and helping them leave a cult.

And if there truly is such a creature, and they joined CB, all that means is they went from one cult to another.

Now there is progress!

And Dowen:

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[arron]

symnra you liar were did i say anyhting about donate to fn or anyone else.

[smyrna]

You just did! Don't sweat the small stuff, Arron. Just write the check and send it to the address of the Chapel above.

I'm sure Pastor Murray will be thankful,not only because you watch the program, but because of your generous contributions. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Hey, You know Smyrna, I thought of donating to FN already. I post here enough and it does cost them money to run the site.

I think I will after I send my larger than usual donation to SC.

All things work together for good!</font>

[smyrna]

Ter wrote: "I'm done with Franklin. I won't answer any of his questions. I'll refute his lies, but his questions.....forget it. He's been proven a liar and will stoop to any level to try and win. It seems that's all it's about with him....winning at any cost."

Smyrna: I swear I was thinking about that this morning, as I scanned the messages. It's all about winning with Frankie, not any sincere search for the truth. How many of his delusional posts has he finished with "I win!"?

He calls their Star Trek oriented sites a "game" and in games, as we know, there is always a winner and loser.

Just an aside, but what do you call a loser who plays a game and decides that he is a winner?

In any case, this "gameboy" mentality won't allow him any respect or truth. It will just keep him in his own little fantasy land.

You know, maybe we should carry our detractor adoption program further, and every month, when we donate to the SC, we can address it from ours and our detractor's screen name:

Example: "This donation is presented to the Shepherd's Chapel with our Christian love, from XXXX and Franklin (Or Arron, Godchild, et. al.)"

I once again thank Godchild for inspiring these ideas, which will enable the SC to continue
spreading God's Word throughout the world.

[smyrna]

You are right Ter,

FactNet is kind of like the SC. Because they don't beg for money either. Just like the small box at the Chapel that Godchild claims doesn't exist, FactNet only has a small donation box at the top of the page.

[smyrna]

"They are essentially overgrown riders of a galactic short bus... why do you stoop to arguing with a group as ridiculous as them? Do you honestly think anyone puts any stock in what they say, do, think or write? They're a pitiful joke - people laugh at them. Why waste your time, you're just as bad as them?"

Answer: Because it's fun.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Smyrna: I swear I was thinking about that this morning, as I scanned the messages. It's all about winning with Frankie, not any sincere search for the truth. How many of his delusional posts has he finished with "I win!"?


Hi Smyrna, I agree. It's all about ego with him.... a high flying, over inflated ego. I have never seen him ask a question in sincerety. He doesn't care what our answers are, he only cares if we listen to him...which I might add isn't going to happen in this lifetime.


Smyrna's answer to franvagotisity:
"Because it's fun."

Yes Smyrna, I've had quite a few laughs here! Our detractors are a hoot!! lol

And yes Smyrna, we should donate to FN. They allow us to talk about God's word without censoring us. Ahhhh freedom of speech. THe U.S.A. is a wonderful country!</font>

[arron]

symnra you are a big liar y saying that i wpoudl or said that i would donate to fn. i have never said that except in the minds of iars like you who thnk it there then say it

[smyrna]

Once again thank you Arron for your undying support of the Shepherd's Chapel. I can understand you might not afford to contribute to both.

So I'm happy that you did not include the SC when you said you would not contribute in your last post.

Thanks again Arron!

[trashcanman]

Smegma needs to get a life!

[smyrna]

"Smegma needs to get a life!"


Just what I expect from a trash can:garbage.

Love,
"Smegma"

(Note the poster has only 5 posts. I guess that's just another alias from one of the CB cowards.)

[sharon]

franvagotisity and trashcanman both have five posts. Wonder what that means? Hmmmm.

[smyrna]

It probably means that Frankie or one of the other cowardly CBers are playing more games. Because their usual names have been so trashed and discredited here, not because of differences in doctrines, but primarily their silliness, have forced them underground.

(of course, now that I said that, at least one of them will come on to "show" I am wrong, like some stranger would really come on here and automatically be able to comment like these two "new" personalities have.

And they are not concerned about what us SC people think. That's not why they are doing this. It's because of the increasing number of people that are not taking any sides, that are commenting on the wackiness, silliness, and increasingly vile and hateful language coming from the Spaceheads.

Their own blatant hypocrisy and contradictions have stripped them of any credibility and using the term integrity is just laughable at this point.

Sharon, I'm not expecting you to embrace the SC, but at least you appear to be distancing yourself from planet "Nilfnarf" (for Godchild and Arron,that's Franklin spelled backwards)

[trashcanman]

It means you need to get a life!!!

[smyrna]

Hey trashcanman,

Why do you have to change your screen name? Are you a coward? Which CB character are you?

I stand by my words above, Because obviously it has you a bit rattled, because it is true.

I have a life, and because of people like you, it's a really fun one, too.

I'm having a blast, are you?

[godchild]

THE ACTIONS OF THE SCER'S (ESPECIALLY SMYRNA) HERE SHOW THAT ARNOLD MURRAY WILL TAKE MONEY UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES; EVEN IN HONOR OF SOMEONE (NAMELY ME) WHO BELIEVES HE IS AN ANTICHRIST! I'LL HAVE TO WRITE AND TELL HIM SO; EXPLAINING OF COURSE HOW HIS STUDENTS PORTRAY THEMSELVES. I'M SURE HE'LL HAVE A GOOD LAUGH TOO; WHILE FURTHER LINING HIS POCKETS. "A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED."

Vivian Hadden
'godchild'

[smyrna]

What Godchild posted might ring true, but only if Pastor Murray knew who she was.

She's really beside herself. I hope she write to him. He can place it in the proper receptacle reserved for letters like hers.

It's round, no lid, and emptied several times a week.

And this fool, and his money, will gladly part with some of it, sending it to the Chapel, in honor of Godchild/Vivian Hetherton Hadden, tomorrow!

Really, Godchild/Vivian Hetherton Hadden, thanks once again for your inspiration!

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

While you're at it, be sure and send photos of your, uh, <font size="-2">family</font>....http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif. He can put that in his garbage too, while pocketing your money.

[smyrna]

My family loves to read all this Factnet banter,and they are among your biggest fans, if you get my drift.

(The get a huge laugh out of Frankie's posts too.)http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[trashcanman]

I'm having a blast, too, Smegma.
What life?
Factnet?
You have a funny life, alright, because you are a joke!
'Senior member'? If that's your claim to fame, take my advice: GET A LIFE!

[smyrna]

trashcanman

More garbage spilling out of the can.

Frankie,(or Ultimate1, perhaps) you can't fool me. You are no stranger here. But you are a coward. By the way, 1609 posts over a little more than two years comes out to only about three or four posts a day. Better talk to your pal Godchild/Vivian Hadden about getting a life.

It's you that has a miserable life. My life is just fine. You and your astronaut buddies are just a diversion from my very busy life. As a matter of fact, I'm about to go on my very exciting and rewarding occupation. By about 4am tomorrow morning, I'll be headed out into the Gulf of Mexico.

And if I were you, (if you are Frankie) I'd get a handle on your little website. Illogical_al
is over there playing Devil's Advocate, even posting stuff about how Moses didn't write the Torah/Pentateuch!

But if you are Ultimate1, well, there's room in that can for both of you. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[rachelengland]

Have a safe trip Smyrna!! If I'm not being too nosey- what do you do out on the gulf?

[smyrna]

Hello Rachel,

I'm a Chef,(with a Coast Guard License)responsible for the galley on a large vessel that services the oil field. I have to maintain the provisions for about fifty people.

Pretty cold this time of the year out there, but that can change almost within a day. It has been very mild and warm until last night.

I'm inside most of the time, but during the summer we spend some of our off time fishing. Sometimes we fly in or out, and that's a good time, flying in a chopper.

It's far from the boring life Frankie envisions for me. I love it. I used to work on the trading floor of a large commodities exchange in Chicago, was was also exciting, fun, and interesting.

This (offshore work)is kind of like a hobby job for me. It can be hard though! Oh, and if anyone thinks they can identify me through that info, forget it. There's thousands of us out there!

[rachelengland]

Well no one wants to identify you Smyrna. Please know that wasn't my intention!

Sounds like you like you enjoy it-career change can be good and most on factnet know Chicago is one of my favorite cities!

Behave yourself.... R

[smyrna]

That's ok, Rachel. According to Godchild/Vivian Hetherton Hadden, I'm lying about all that.
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[trashcanman]

A guy who prepared food.

Wash your hands, Smegma!

You're not too opinionated, are you?

You have no idea about Trashcan man, do you? Oil fields are my favorite (next to nuclear missile sites).

Read a book, fool, instead of wasting your life here.

[smyrna]

Hey trashcnaman,

You doge any attempt to get you to reveal your culbuster or prior screen name here. That is because you trashed your old name so badly (Franklin) that you cannot show your "face" here. Of course, now that I said that, Frankie will all of a sudden show up.

"You have no idea about Trashcan man, do you? Oil fields are my favorite (next to nuclear missile sites)."

Yes, I have pretty good ideas about "trashcanman"

One, that Homeland Security would probably be interested in that statement.They shouldn't worry, though. You probably couldn't tell the difference between a Nuclear missile site and an oil field.

"Read a book, fool, instead of wasting your life here.'

Sounds like you are irritated that I AM here.

I probably have read more books that you own.

You sure sound like a defeated version of Franklin.(or Ultimate1) Maybe you should dust him off and come back raging and whining as is natural for you. Well, the whining part I see hasn't really gone away.

[godchild]

My late husband was a driller for Brinkerhoff Signal. You know what he would have called cookie, aka one-who-kisses-am-butt: a worm. lololol I'll bet they don't let him get anywhere near the rig. I'd like to see him try and throw pipe. He'd probably get his gloves stuck and go round and round, wheeee! That's what usually happens to the worms out there.

[godchild]

<font size="+1"><font color="ff0000">THE NEW SIGN FOR SHEPHERD'S CHAPEL. DONATE TO THE ANTICHRIST. MAIL MONEY HERE. AND HURRY UP. I'VE GOT A VACATION DUE ME! MY JET NEEDS GAS. --signed pm</font></font>

LOLOLOL

[trashcanman]

Don't be so smug, Smeg....I am none of the entities you think I am.

Like I said, you know nothing of what 'trashcan man' represents.

I do know that you spend an inordinate amount of time here on this sick little web-page.

Why don't you get a date and get layed? Or maybe just take in a movie or read a book (Penthouse and Hustler don't count, Smeg!)

[angie0401]

Like I said, you know nothing of what 'trashcan man' represents.

Your potty mouth, maybe? Just a guess.. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

{I am none of the entities you think I am.}
You've posted here, the AA thread and the Mel Gibson thread.... I wonder who you could be.. I'm sure you aren't connected to any of the franklinites/CBers, right? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[smyrna]

Well, well, what, about 24 hours later, and Godchild/Vivian Hetherton Hadden is still in the midst of her meltdown. In addition, she has apperently devoloped her own comedy routine.

It must be comedy, since they are saying over at CB that satan is a "concept", that was "developed".

I don't know how we can donate to a concept, perhaps that's something the CBers can work on.

Godchild/Vivian Hetherton Hadden also wrote:
"My late husband was a driller for Brinkerhoff Signal. (Smegma the worm: Never heard do them, probably drilled too many dry holes)You know what he would have called cookie, aka one-who-kisses-am-butt: a worm."

(I wonder how many beers she had when she wrote that one?)

I don't mind being called a worm, it puts me in good company:

"For I am a worm, and no man, a reproach of men, and despised of the people." -Psalm 22

She's right about something: No, I wouldn't want to throw pipe on a rig. I have a Coast Guard license. I don't have to do that to make a good living. I work inside, it's easy,takes creativity, and someone's got to take are of the food and beverages.

She can poke fun all she wants. I throughly enjoy my job, so she can have at it. It's better than sitting at home, and I get to go fishing too!

Love,

"Smegma the Worm"

[smyrna]

trashcan man wrote:

"Like I said, you know nothing of what 'trashcan man' represents."

Smegma the worm:yes I do, a human trash receptacle. Full of garbage.

Trash Receptacle also writes:"Why don't you get a date and get layed? Or maybe just take in a movie or read a book (Penthouse and Hustler don't count, Smeg!)"

Smegma the worm: I'm married, and marriage is a sacrament, that you obviously don't respect for. Secondly, I am reading a book, it's Systematic Theology: From A Catholic Perspective Volume II.

ANGIE,

You bet it's (T-Can) a cultbuster. Frankie most likely. He's not only a coward, he can't keep his head out of the gutter, but doesn't want to sully his "good name," which is a joke. So he comes back on using that ridiculous but quite appropriate screename.

Notice that Frankie hasn't been on here since the human trash receptacle showed up.

(Message edited by smyrna on January 19, 2007)

[rachelengland]

Smyrna, I can stand for Franklin and tell you he is not trashcan man I am not sure who he is? He isn't any of my friends from cb I don't think any of them are afraid to show their user names...

Hope your doing well out there on high seashttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif R

[yaqakallah]

This is an opinion...comepletely worthless. But the name trashcan man rings a bell with me. Did any of you watch The Stand, the movie of the end of the world written by Stephen King?

There was a character, deranged, who was called trashcan man if I remember correctly. He appeared to worship satan, but in the end, brought the bomb to satan's headquarters in las vegas and destroyed satan's empire. He kept saying something like, "I will die for you". May have the whole story mixed up. Just sounded familiar, you know the name, trashcan man. Odd name...

[godchild]

smyrna (smyrna)
New member
Username: smyrna

Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 65.6.91.103
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 1:06 pm:

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I love the way "billyfan" minimzies the rapture doctrine as a "a secondary teaching that we need not divide over." The rapture doctrine is very dangerous to any soul. It sets them up to accept the antichrist when he comes. I know that there are theologians who do not believe in a literal antichrist, but that's their opinion, though it is easily refuted. That Murray refers to those who teach such trash as "Idiot," "Jezebels," "Ignorant to believe such trash," and "Idiot, you're going to hell!"
I love it. It's about time someone got on TV and gets tough with these tabloid theologians who sell books and bumperstickers hawking a false teaching to make money on it. Like the "Left Behind" series, for instance. Murray's style may not be for everyone, but neither was St. Pauls' style either, because he got beat up a few times over it, just as Murray gets beaten up in a figurative sense by all these traditionalists, who thinks truth is defined as accepted orthodox teachings, which, by the way, you will get a different defintion for depending on who you ask.

[yaqakallah]

Funny how she loves to come here and 'try' to make everyone look bad. Why can't she simply understand it is she who is not serving God, but herself?

Christ commanded to love one another and to love our enemies. I see no love nor servitude for God. The post above is nearly 2 years old. What purpose does this serve God's will???

Sorry, but I cannot see where God is using this woman to serve him. Nor do I see yahshua's commandments being obeyed.

Guess I am the next target. Satan hates those who expose him and his servants.

sorry if I offended you. but you must ask yourself, WWJD?

[sharon]

yaqakallah... Did not see the movie but read the book. And Trashcan man was definately in it, he brings a nuclear warhead to LA to please his evil master Flagg, but the hand of God sets it off and destroys LA and everyone in it. It was quite the story! One of those page turners. Good verse Evil.

[smyrna]

Sharon, that's Frankie, playing yet another fantasy game. Thta, and Godchild's flipping out, is really sad.

[yaqakallah]

Sharon,

Wow, was that not a good read or what? If my understanding is right, Stephen King's movies almost read word for word from his books.

I strongly suggest you go see the movie. Word of warning...it's 8 hours long. But very inspirational.

Thanks for the clarity!!!

[franklin]

yaqakallah, but you must ask YOURself where is serving God, living the words of Christ in claiming that Jews are the spawn of satan?

You people are toting around a nuclear bomb called racism that is bound to blow up in all of our faces.

Do we have to fight World War 2 again?

Do we have to wait until we see the concentration camps, the poison gas chambers, the ovens again before we realize where all of this serpent seeder heresy is leading to?

Step out of your haughtiness and your fakey denial that you are not promoting the serpent seeder heresy and realize that we are trying to help you and the rest of this wolfpack. What you are promoting is not of God but of man and the devil!

Stop flipping out with your insults at the Jews and anyone who opposes this heresy!

[yaqakallah]

For the record, I NEVER said that Jews are the spawn of Satan, nor do I recall anyone posting here to make that claim.

Once again, I am falsely accused. Nothing I can do about it. Those who do this to me will have to answer to God on Judgement Day for these actions.

May God have mercy on their souls....

[jimito]

I think God has more important issues to deal with than you being falsely accused yakella. This is the same crap racists believe they say Kenites are jews and they are being called the sons of cain, spawns of satan.get it, got it, GOOD! No one is abusing you or accusing you lecture and debate are everyday occurences. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

[godchild]

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kim, The fact that am judges others and calls them idiots doesn't offend you? Are you supporting smyrna who publicly agrees with him?

It would be wise for anyone reading these threads to read the past posts for a better understanding of who is doing what, and for what purpose. Scers came here not for bible study, (which they lie by saying so), but to attack those who disagree with the false teachings of am/sc. Its that simple. Once people understand that, they will begin to figure these people out. Or they will join them, being like-minded. Simple enough?

[franklin]

yaqakallah,

The AM/SC heresy is about the modern day Jews are kenites, SPAWN OF SATAN, genetic decendants of Cain, the SON of satan, (according to the "serpent seed"). Are you blind? Take those scales off your eyes that satan has placed over them.

Everyone who knows of the serpent seed heresy including the serpent seed heretics know that this is what they believe.

Read all of these heretic's posts. Over and over again they say that Jews are the spawn of satan!

Who you are defending is whom YOU are in agreement with.

What you are defending is what YOU believe!

I refuse to believe you are that naive and dense.

yaqakallah, you will have to answer to God on Judgement Day for these actions.

Separate yourself from these PAWNS of satan!

[angie0401]

Are you blind? Take those scales off your eyes that satan has placed over them.
There are people (including most, but not all, of the CBers) who are blind, but satan doesn't have the power to do that. God is the one who blinds some, not satan.

Over and over again they say that Jews are the spawn of satan!
Show one place where we say this. When you can't, it will just show (again) that you are a liar and falsely accuse EVERYONE who disagrees with you and refuses to bow at the altar of franklin.

you will have to answer to God on Judgement Day for these actions.
As you will have to answer to God for your neverending lies and accusations.

[franklin]

oh angie. Always twisting and distorting just like you do with the bible.

What does Genesis 4:1 say?

It clearly says that ADAM is the father of Cain.

Yet you and arnie claim that it says that satan is the physical father of Cain. Not Adam.

And that all of Cain's descendant's are called Kenites who you say are pretending to be Jews today.

Therefore obvious to everyone you and all the other SCer's are saying that the Jews (not the fake British Israelites) are the spawn of satan!

Anyone who can read are reading what you are saying. The British are not the Jews. The Jews are the Jews.

You are the one who is the liar here.

And your accusations about the Jews being the spawn of satan as well as your cult leader arnie are FALSE!

There is no altar of franklin. No one bows to me nor should. I speak what the real Christian church preaches. ADAM IS CAIN'S FATHER!

[smyrna]

I see Frankie dropped his Trashcan hat and his back to his usual game of distorting SC teachings.

It's beyond just not having good reading comprehension.

He is deliberately distorting what SC teaches and believes.
He is bearing false witness, and doesn't care.

But that's nothing new.

[angie0401]

You are the one who is the liar here.
Where have I lied?

I speak what the real Christian church preaches.
Which Christian church would you be speaking of - who are you affiliated with?

And your accusations about the Jews being the spawn of satan as well as your cult leader arnie are FALSE!
No one - but the franklinites - said the Jews are the spawn of Satan.

Christ did speak of those who say they are Jews, but do lie. Who do you think He was talking about? What does the "real Christian church" preach about that?

[godchild]

angie, Who are you really?

FACTNet Message Board: Political, Governmental, Military or ... Democratic Party, angie0401, 67, 4, 11-02-06 3:03 am. QUEEN ELIZABETH TO SHUT DOWN FREEDOM ON INTERNET! anyscientologist, 1, 1, 10-27-06 7:56 pm ...
www.factnet.org/discus/messages/5/5.html (http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/5/5.html) - 185k - Cached - Similar pages

Folks, here is another phoney liar. Go to this thread which, according to these records, say angie0401 (isn't your daughter named Angelina) started this thread. If you look at the thread, the one and only post is by anyscientologist. You should read some of the posts there between anyscientologist and your good buddy plowdeep.
Freaking hypocrits!

[angie0401]

Vivian said:angie, Who are you really?

FACTNet Message Board: Political, Governmental, Military or ... Democratic Party, angie0401, 67, 4, 11-02-06 3:03 am. QUEEN ELIZABETH TO SHUT DOWN FREEDOM ON INTERNET! anyscientologist, 1, 1, 10-27-06 7:56 pm ...
www.factnet.org/discus/messages/5/5.html (http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/5/5.html) - 185k - Cached - Similar pages

Folks, here is another phoney liar. Go to this thread which, according to these records, say angie0401 (isn't your daughter named Angelina) started this thread. If you look at the thread, the one and only post is by anyscientologist. You should read some of the posts there between anyscientologist and your good buddy plowdeep.
Freaking hypocrits!

What in the world are you talking about Vivian? I hope everyone clicks on that link so they can see you have flipped your lid. Your extreme hatred of us has really messed with your head.

That link doesn't say I started that thread (or any on that part of the forum), I was the last to post to it under "Democratic Party".

You have really gone off the deep end... Get some rest already - you are really losing it, Viv.

(Why are you asking about my children, Vivian? Angie is MY name.)

[gone_to_pa]

The Myth of the Kenites

The Jews of John 8:44 are not Kenites. Jesus was simply denouncing these particular Jews for their unbelief-as he and his apostles would denounce anyone as a child of the devil, Jew or Gentile, who refused to believe (Matt. 16:23; Eph. 2:1-3,11; 3:1; 1 John 3:9,10). Christ was calling them children of the devil because of what they believed, not because of who they were. Additionally, Jesus was not making a blanket judgment on all or even most Jews, but only this small group of Jews because they intended to kill him (John 8:40,44,58,59).

Furthermore, it is not Cain who is the murderer in John 8:44, for Jesus says it is literally the devil who is the murderer. The murder mentioned in John 8:44 is not Cain's murder of Abel, but the devil causing death to occur upon all the human race when he instigated Adam and Eve to sin (Gen.2:17; 3:14,19; Rom.6:12). Anyone, whether Jew or Gentile (including Anglo-Saxons), are considered Satan's children if they refuse to believe in Christ (Gen. 3:15; Matt. 13:3643). This Seed of the Serpents is not Cain and his literal offspring, but only a figurative offspring. In other words, only those people (regardless of what race they belong to) who do not believe the gospel are the children of Satan because they follow their own sinful tendencies instead of accepting Christ (Matt. i6:23; John 6:70,71; Acts 5:3; 13:4-10; Rom. 5:12-19; 8:5-6; Eph. 2:1,2; 1 John 3:4-10).

If there were any descendants of Cain (which there isn't), they could receive salvation too, because a number of people from all nationalities, tongues, tribes, and races will serve Christ (Rev. 5:9,10) just like a number of people from all races will serve Satan (Rev. 13:5-8).

Furthermore, the Kenites mentioned in Jeremiah 35 and 1 Chronicles 2:55 are not the children of the Cain of Genesis 4. First of all, Scripture does not say that the Kenites are the children of the same Cain who slew Abel. Second, simply because both terms come from the same Hebrew word does not mean that all, some, or any Kenites are the descendants of the Cain who slew Abel. Apparently, "Cain" was a common name just like "Zechariah". The Bible records at least 33 men by the name of Zechariah, and not all of them were related (e.g., there is no relationship between these men who were all named Zachariah: 1 Chron. 5:7; 24:25; 2 Chron. 21:2; 2 Kings 14:29).

Therefore, individuals can be called the descendants of Cain, but the Cain they are related to was not the same Cain who slew Abel in Genesis 4 (see for instance, the different Kenites mentioned in Gen. 5:12; Num. 24:21,22; Judges 1:16, and 1 Sam. 15:6).

Third, some Kenites do acts of righteousness, and Jonadab the Rechabite could be considered a righteous man of God (1 Sam.15:6; 2 Kings 10:15,16,23,24; Jer. 35:12-16). It would be impossible for them to be commended for their righteousness by both God and the Israelites if they were "children of the devil".

Furthermore, the whole doctrine of the serpent seed is flawed because nowhere in Scripture does it ever say word for word that Eve actually had sex with the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. In 2 Corinthians 11:3 the word for "beguiled" (exanatao), should be rendered "wholly deceived" Just because Eve was fully deceived does not mean that she literally had sex with the Serpent. In other passages where this same Greek word is used, it is never connected with sex. In fact, if it were connected with sex, we would run into ridiculous conclusions like people literally having sex with their own minds (Rom. 16:18; cf., 1 Cor.3:18)1

[gone_to_pa]

Also if Eve had to hide her nakedness because of her sex with the Serpent, we would have to conclude that Adam also had sex with the serpent (Gen. 3:6,7). It was out of a sexual relationship with Adam, not the Serpent, that Eve became impregnated with Cain. The New International Version correctly renders Genesis 4:1,2: Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain."

There is also no evidence that Abel was the fraternal twin of Cain. The "again" of Genesis 4:2 does not indicate that Eve gave birth to Abel right after (whether a few minutes, hours, or days) she gave birth to Cain. Several years may have passed before Eve "bore again" by giving birth to

Cain's brother Abel. Not to mention, Josephus writes that Cain was begotten by both Adam and Eve (Antiquities 1.2:1). Finally, even if Cain were the literal offspring of Satan, no descendent of Cain survived the flood of Noah

[godchild]

How common is the username angie0401?

[angie0401]

How common is the username angie0401?
As far as I know, I am the only one who has ever used it here. What's your point?
Here is the thread you are referring to, and no one with the username "anyscientologist" posted to it - that is a thread directly under this one.

Democratic Party angie0401 67 4 11-02-06 3:03 am
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John "effing" Kerry <u>angie0401</u> 6 1 11-02-06 3:03 am
Democrats: Saddam's best friends kingdavid 46 1 11-10-05 8:59 pm
Democratic Convention Anonymous 15 1 10-19-04 11:30 am
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angie0401
Intermediate Member
Username: angie0401

Post Number: 332
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 65.81.216.12
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 3:03 am:

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Just sitting here smelling the White Bean Chicken Chili that hubby has cooking for a chili contest tomorrow. It's getting that time of year! I love chili and stew, so this is right up my alley.

Frito pie, huh? Wonder how John Kerry enjoyed his crow that he had to eat tonight. Did you happen to see the "stuck in Iraq" picture on the Drudge report? If not, go check it out, you'll enjoy it!

Have a wonderful night! Great to talk to you again...



You have either absolutely lost it or will go to any lengths to try to turn others against us. Do you think the end justifies the means??
If this was an honest mistake because it was rather late and you just got confused when looking at the thread, I think you owe me an apology for trying to discredit me.

(Message edited by Angie0401 on January 21, 2007)

[godchild]

I am apologising to angie0401 for my error. I should have investigated further before posting what I did. I do hope angie0401 is not involved with anyscientologist. Angie, please accept my apology. I won't make any excuses and will accept any rebuke humbly.

[smyrna]

Hate to say it, (well,not really) but Godchild has once again tried to condenm someone without any hard facts.

The only reason she apologized is that it was impossible for her to squrim out of this one.

There is a glimmer of hope, though. She at least said she "should have investigated."

Maybe she can now investigate whether Shepherd's Chapel has a Church building of their own or not.

She has never retracted or apologized for that charge, even though it is absoultely false.

Let us see how sincere she is.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[godchild]

You show evidence of one time where am invited people to come to his church. Not the hall or wherever he has his yearly passover, but where he holds weekly (or whatever) services.

[angie0401]

I accept your apology.
I don't know anyone who is a scientologist and know very little about their beliefs.

[smyrna]

Your charge was not that AM invited people or not, but that there is no Church to even be invited to. Do you want me to repost the threads where you claimed that?

You can try and divert attention, but that's exactly what I mean by you always trying to squirm out of your ridiculous accusations.

I'll be happy to address your now new charge that Pastor Murray does not invited anyone to the Church in Gravette.

But not until you admit you were wrong to claim it does not exist, and apologize.

That should save me some work!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

Oh yeah, that church that smyrna says has room for about 10 chairs. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[fullofquestions]

you sure not 9?

[smyrna]

Godchild wrote: "Oh yeah, that church that smyrna says has room for about 10 chairs"

Once again that last laugh is on me. The studo where the program is taped has room for about ten chairs. The Church itself must seat at least 400.

This is how stupid Godchild is. I already described the Church, and also stated it was large enough to seat at least 400. Yet she is so ridiculous, she confuses the Church with the studio.

Of course, it should be of no surprise that she is this stupid.

She also didn't know the Septuagint and the LXX are one and the same document. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[godchild]

So which is it, smyrna? Do you go to the "studio" to hear am, or the "big church"? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

Everyone who has witnessed am "standing" behind a pulpit in this "400 seat church", stand up................................................ .................................................. .................................................. ..........Okay, smyrna. You can sit down now!
And you too. I wasn't talking about the rented auditorium for passover meetings. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif

[yaqakallah]

My goodness why all this fuss over IF there is a Church bulding or not???

Anyone that concerned should just go to Gravette, ARK and 'see'' for themselves!!!

Man! Some people will argue over anything!!!

[smyrna]

Godchild is showing just how ridiculous she is. She has no problem going on and on about something she obviously knows nothing about.

The rented venues are only for two meetings per year: Passover and Fall Fellowship. And that is because more than two and even three thousand people have attended these meetings.

The rest of the year the Church in Gravette is used, and as I said, holds at least 400.

I'm working on getting photos just because it's so much fun rubbing truth in Godchild's face.

Godchild sounds especially ignorant, because even during the Chapel telecasts, fairly often Pastor Murray broadcasts right from the Chapel Church, and that is where you can see him standing at the podium.

KIM,

The fuss is about showing how off the wall Godchild's accusations are.

She still has not shown a shred of evidence to prove her allegation that myself and Watchman have had recent communications with someone who used to frequent this forum.(John Cody)

I don't even know why that would be an issue with her anyway. After all, we communicate with her, albeit reluctantly.

I'm staying on that, because it will show she is not beyond hurling completely false accusations against us.

[godchild]

smyrna seems to think it is important enough to keep bringing up the fact that I don't believe am has a church building. Not that its important whether he does or not, but just so smyrna can add any stupid thing to his list trying to prove I am a liar. It just shows how desperate he is in his attempts to fault anyone who exposes the truth about am/sc false doctrines.

To see why I ever brought it up in the first place, you need to go back over old posts to see the lies scer's push about sc's membership and the numbers of people who they say follow him. When it comes right down to it, there is no membership, so their bragging was just a ruse to give his ministry credibility. Most ministers I have spoken to have never heard of am, and when they hear what he preaches, they can't hold back the laughter. Those who have call him weird, and other similar definitions. One very important sign of a cult is the leader claiming he has new or secret knowledge the average Christian doesn't. Let's see the students deny that. am doesn't even have "new or secret" knowledge. He borrowed everything from other equally rascist writers. But he's certainly convinced you all, hasn't he? That defines "brain-washing", the desire you have to be better than who you are, not understanding no one is better than anyone else.

[smyrna]

I see Godchild is now trying to back off her allegation that the SC has no Church building of their own.

We don't have anything to prove as far as numbers go. There is no bragging. It is not about numbers, and Godchild would have something negative to say whether the SC had fifty of fifty thousand members.


Now WHERE is the evidence that myself an Watchman have recently communicated with John Cody?

That question is not going to go away. Maybe you think that won't be important after a while. It's not about importance, it's about you making up accusations based upon nothing.

[yaqakallah]

Smyrna,

I meant over Godchild. I mean, "IF" this is so damn important to her, why don't she just fly herself over there and take a 'peek'. You know what I mean???

This constant arguing over something she does not know nor have proof is just tiresome...

And your right, she has not come clean over 'that'. If you will check the posts date and go to Doctrines etc threads. She was over there in full force accussing evferyone she could get to bite...

And what was up with that weird, out-of-place post oviously directed to me about Herbert Armstrong??? This is a SC Thread!?!

YIKES!!!

[smyrna]

I understood you, Kim. I agree, but I'm going to look at the SC discussion gorups at Yahoo and see if I can get a hold of the photo of the Church. Just to show people how stupid and ignorant Godchild is to keep making up silly allegations.

Because once this and the John Cody matter is exposed, I can add it to EVERY post I make here,which should be effective in showing for certain, that nothing she says can be believed unless it is thoroughly checked out.

As you have noticed, she does often posts totally irrelevant material on threads, which is either the result of her instability, no matter what agent is responsible (drugs, alcohol, or just plain whacko)or a calculated atemp at diverting from the fact she is either flat out wrong about something, or just plain clueless.

Now the FACT that she will not come forth with any proof to support her allegation that myself and Watchman have been in recent communication with "John Cody" is proof in itself that she just makes stuff up. She is known to do this, it is part of her history here at FactNet.

But it sure is fun showing everyone how freaked out she is!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[daikon]

Hi smyrna,

godchild made several accusations against me (my screenname, anyway) stating that I was the same person who once posted as trentwoodward or john cody...
She specifically noted a post I made where I agreed with watchman2's linguistic interpretation of the word "seed" in a passage in Genesis.

While I am not a follower of the "serpent seed" doctrine (I actually don't know enough about it to have a discussion on the subject and I am also not much of a doctrine oriented Christian in any case)... I have no particular problem with any one expressing their beliefs. I have in the past (Evolution threads) gotten a bit stirred up with watchman2 and his "tone" so to speak, but of course that is an entirely different discussion.

Anyway, godchild did apologize to me for the accusations (which were not only unfounded, they just didn't make sense) and I happily accepted the apology.

So that may put the "john cody" matter to rest.

What's interesting is the thread where most of the back and forth on this matter occured "Should Christians hate..." is now locked and that entire series of posts is deleted. (I came here from searching for an admin thread that would clarify what happened, I wondered if they deleted this thread... obviously they didn't and that's good in my opinion -- not because of subject matter, but free speech discussion.)

I'll finish by saying,this entire debate troubles me -- the matters of doctrine and interpretation -- because I find myself thinking; what does it really matter to my/our salvation?

Peace to you brother (or sister)...

In hope we all find the truth in Jesus Christ.

[angie0401]

What's interesting is the thread where most of the back and forth on this matter occured "Should Christians hate..." is now locked and that entire series of posts is deleted.

daikon,
<u>From what I know about it</u>, at least 2 posters whined and cried to the admin about that thread until admin got tired of it, locked the thread and deleted all the posts - including those you mentioned and the ones where it was shown that at least one of those complaining was having conversations with themselves using different user names (unstable, yes?). Got caught with their pants down, so to speak.

Anywho - check out Factnet exchange, there might be something there.

Be warned, if you show anything but hate and disdain for us, you will be targeted by the SC haters. Might want to steer clear of us if you don't want that to happen.

By the way - I've read some of your posts on the other threads. Even if I don't always agree, you always seem to be fair in your posts and I appreciate that.

[smyrna]

Daikon,

Sorry, it does not put the John Cody matter to rest, for two reasons.

One, if that was the reason, that she mistook you for Cody, she would and should have said something by now.

Secondly, she claimed myself and Watchman have had communications with him. I don't recall having any recent communication with you, and on top of that, if she suspected that you were Cody, she also should have mentioned this in her initial allegation.

The fact is, she makes stuff up, and when she is caught, she just ignores the appeals for evidence.

I just want to keep it in everyone's minds that she is not to be taken seriously, and everything she says should be in question.

[smyrna]

Looks like Godchild has no rebuttal for her getting busted lying again.

[sharon]

Franklin... Once again you are right, you called it in yaqakallahs case and I did not see it. I am sorry for the defence I put up there. I will take longer next time and look closer.

[godchild]

How long are people going to wait to see "smyrna's photo of the sc chapel"? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/yawn.gif

[yaqakallah]

OK...Sharon! Just WHAT have I been accussed of now??? Behihnd my back?!? I read thru the posts and I do not understand what you are talking about? Care to share!?!

[yaqakallah]

sharon
Advanced Member
Username: sharon

Post Number: 673
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 198.164.4.48
Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 6:17 pm:

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Franklin I love Buddha, he had such wonderful wisdom and love......

,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,


OK, take 2:

SHARON, this is NOT going to go away! Please respond to my above question. It is the only decent thing to do. since, you posted my name yet did not include the subject matter.

Oviously, whatever you 'think' is irrelevant, since you 'love' Buddha. I'm just curious as to what you are gossipping about me.

Shall I continue, or do you want to 'come clean?

PS. Is your little attack on me in reference to my post to Smyrna were I stated that you posted that you were now into Wicca?

[franklin]

Why would you, yaq yaq, not love Buddha? Do you hate him? Sure he did not know Christ. Many in the world do not. But we should not hate them because they do not.

Sharon is NOT into wicca. Sharon is a Christian. Something you and your serpent seeder heretic friends here are NOT!

Sharon was pointing out that she at first thought you were not a serpent seeder heretic yaq yaq. She believed your b.s. But now it is obvious to everyone that you are.

Here I'll give you a freebie.

A test as to whether you are a Christian or not.

Read the following:

Genesis 4
1"And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

Now answer the question.

Who is Cain's father?

A. Adam

B. satan

If you choose A. Adam you are a Christian (or a Jew or a Moslem).

If you choose B. satan then you are a heretic, racist and blasphemer.

[yaqakallah]

Franklin,

My username is YaqaKallah, not yaq yaq, just like your name is Franklin, not Spanklin. A little respect please.

I was speaking to Sharon, do you go by the usernasme of sharon as well?

Sharon DID post that she was into Wicca, wanna see it?!?

"Sharon was pointing out that she at first thought you were not a serpent seeder heretic yaq yaq. She believed your b.s. But now it is obvious to everyone that you are."

Please provide proof that I am a Serpent Seeder. If you don't feel like it then I will start a new thread just for you just so you want forget/miss it.(fair is fair. I have repeatedly answered this question to you yet you refuse to drop it. And yes, I don't feel like having this conversation either).

Please keep in mind the 9th commandment when doing so.

Could you please expound on your interpretation of just what the initials b.s. stands for? Is this a word or phrase that you use to win the lost to Christ, spread the Good News and provide a friendly service to help those trapped in cults escape into the loving arms of a Christian?

Thanks in advance!

[franklin]

ANSWER MY QUESTION.

[yaqakallah]

Franklin,

Do you not see the anger in your post? The 'need' you have to control?

This is not healthy. For you, or anyone else who reads your posts.

Disagreements in doctrines is one thing, but your emotional approach is not of the spirit of God.

Please seek help for yourself.

[franklin]

Yaq says:


"You my dear are either:

1.) a wolf in sheep's clothing

2.) mentally ill

3.) a drunk/drug addict

4.) all of the above"


Yaq, do you not see the anger in your post? The 'need' you have to control?

This is not healthy. For you, or anyone else who reads your posts.

Disagreements in doctrines is one thing, but your emotional approach is not of the spirit of God.

And YOU are accusing ME of being angry? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Just like all of you serpent seeders, twisting and perverting the truth!

Please seek help for yourself.

Now are you going to answer my my question or not?

Who is the father of Cain?

Adam http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif or satan?

[smyrna]

Godchild wrote:

"How long are people going to wait to see "smyrna's photo of the sc chapel"?'

Maybe as long as it will take for you to admit you made up the allegation about me communicating with John Cody (under any name) or admit you agreed with "illogical_al" that satan does not exist, or admit that you openly doubted that Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to the Messiah, or that Moses didn't write the Torah.

Who else is waiting these photos? Only Godchild is apparently consumed with her own lie, desperately hoping that we can't get a hold of a photo.

Now I control the time frame in which I will work to obtain a photo, not Godchild. She must remember that in my daily activities, she is merely a sideshow, a cheap form of entertainment.

So when I get a photo, which I will, I will choose when I want to drop it on her and laugh more than usual.

I will make one prediction and I'm going to record this post here and in my files, so I can access it quickly:

Even if the SC Church looks like the Sistine Chapel or the Cathedral De Notre Dame, Godchild will say something negative about it.

Just remember this, folks: the issue is not that the SC has a Church building of its own that holds at least 400, but that Godchild has repeatedly stated that it does not exist.

And part of my presentation of the photo or photos, will be all the references in her posts where she denied that the building existed, or described it inaccurately.

And THAT will be highly entertaining to say the least.

[franklin]

That is all so trivial and a diversion trick of yours.

What matters is how in the world can you take a verse like

Genesis 4
1"And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

and come up with the stupid idea that satan is Cain's father?

You can't without lying!

[smyrna]

Hey Frankie,

There are no tricks or diversions. You just are obsessed with the Serpent Seed teaching. You don't believe, it and you don't accept any explanation given for it.

And that's cool, it's your choice. But one thing is clear: you have very little knowledge of Biblical studies.
Godchild bails you out all the time, while you hide from the simplest questions. And Godchild is also far from a scholar. That is clear by the knee-jerk reactions she has made over at that stupid thread at CB called Let's Talk About Satan.

Doesn't it bother you, Frankie, that your own little cult members are agreeing with those who deny satan exists and is some kind of literary invention?

Doesn't it bother you that these same folks like "illogical_al" are also agreeing that the Torah was not written by Moses?

Seems like the CB house needs a cleaning lady, Frankie. So I'd get to it, if I were you, because your house seems to be built on sand, as in divided against itself.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Hey Kim,

You owe Franklin nothing. Besides all of us SC women are still waiting for an apology from him for sayiing that we use FN to pick up men.

Until then, I will not answer any of his questions.

BTW, does he think he is.....God???? We only have to answer to God, not Franklin. Doesn't his ego seem a bit huge? lol

Ter</font>

[yaqakallah]

Hey teluvire,

You are indeed right, but I would not hold my breath!

I honestly think any further communications with him, godchild and of course the Atheists would go against the teaching of God. Not even the angels argued with Satan.

The best we can do for them is to pray for them.

[franklin]

Someone who professes to be a Christian and yet yaq does not know whether Adam and Eve were created on the 6th day of creation or not. Does not know whether Adam and Eve are the mother and father of all humanity or not. Does not know whether Adam and Eve had sex with satan or not. Does not know whether Adam or satan is the father of Cain. Does not know whether the great flood destroyed all of humanity except for Noah and their family or not. Does not know whether the Jews are the spawn of satan or not......

Absolutely unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!

BTW I am still waiting on an apology where I was falsely accused of using cb for picking up women. But I would not hold my breath!

[bluewater2]

Yaq. "I honestly think any further communications with him, godchild and of course the Atheists would go against the teaching of God. Not even the angels argued with Satan." Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? So, let me get this straight, you worship a god that does not like you talking to atheists? How nice. You know, Yaq, I have treated you with kid gloves ever since that very public meltdown you had a month ago here on these forums and even came to your support on a couple of occassions. Your new found "strength" reminds me of a brick house built on a thin layer of ice. I will just sit back and watch until the ice breaks.

[yaqakallah]

Actually Blue, I stated in an earlier post(one you may have missed) that we are to spread the Good News to everyone. You have stated that you have been preached the Good News and refused to beleive in Jesus and God. At that point we are to leave you in peace unless you come to us with questions concerning learning more about the Bible and then we are to freely answer your questions with love in our heart for you.

Thank you for posting that you will enjoy me being abused again. Very nice of you.

[godchild]

smyrna once again lies. It was he who kept bringing up my stating I don't believe sc has a church building.

[smyrna]

I won't get into a stupid argument. I will get a photo and you will never hear the end of your false accusation.

I'm going to put the photo or photos on my website, and I will post the link plus post your post numbers containing your false accusations every time I author a post.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[skooter942000]

Mat 12:33 ¶ Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by [his] fruit.


Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil,
speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.


Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart
bringeth forth good things:
and an evil man out of the evil treasure
bringeth forth evil things.


Mat 12:36 But I say unto you,
That every idle word that men shall speak,
they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.


Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified,
and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.



AMEN {&amp;} AMEN


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RE: From Franklin


A test as to whether you are a Christian or not.

Read the following:

Genesis 4
1"And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived,
and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD."

Now answer the question.

Who is Cain's father?

A. Adam

B. satan

If you choose A. Adam you are a Christian (or a Jew or a Moslem).

If you choose B. satan then you are a heretic, racist and blasphemer.


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These are the "RULES" for being a CHRISTIAN


Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world,
that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.


Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world
to condemn the world; but that the world through him
might be saved.


Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name
of the only begotten Son of God.


Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation,
that light is come into the world,
and men loved darkness rather than light,
because their deeds were evil.


Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light,
neither cometh to the light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.


AMEN {&amp;} AMEN

[observer]

Mommy, scooter is spamming the board with endless Bible verses again. Tell him to stop!

Amen.

[skooter942000]

gc is this true?

- or Do You openly deny this?


-----------------------------------------------
From: yaqakallah - (to gc)

or admit you agreed with "illogical_al" that
satan does not exist, or admit that you openly
doubted that Mary was a virgin when she gave
birth to the Messiah, or that Moses didn't
write the Torah.
--------------------------------------------

- To (gc)


Does satan exist? (Y/N)


Added note:
- (Does not The Mormon Church believe
these TWO are Brothers)?



Was Mary a virgin? (before she Conceived CHRIST)

Did moses pen the Torah?


X_______________________________




ADDED: - IS CHRIST GOD?




(http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif)


This posting is certainly not against KIM.

Just finding out what The Accuser has to say.

- Publicly.

[godchild]

All you have to do is go back and read my (public) posts that were in response to the scer's ignorance. Do the same about my responses on cultbusters.

If you are honest with yourself, you will see Christians posts are always taken out of context.

(skooter) Did you or did you not see the photos posted at the fig tree. (Posted by olivemas and removed the next day) showing photos of celebrities that he suggested are kenites? Did you respond to this post and others on the same subject? Let's see how honest YOU are!

[skooter942000]

Yes, i replied.

i bowed out of that thread. (U know i did)

i already said this.

- RACE HATE is wrong!!!

- JUDGING OTHERS, (Is wrong)






- Now answer my questions 2u ;-)



<font color="0000ff"><font size="+1">(gc)


Does satan exist? (Y/N)

X______________________________



Added note:
- (Does not The Mormon Church believe
these TWO are Brothers)? - CHRIST and satan



Was Mary a virgin? (before she Conceived CHRIST)

X______________________________




Did moses pen the Torah?

X______________________________




- IS CHRIST GOD?

X______________________________
</font></font>

[rachelengland]

logic_al did not say Satan did not exist Don, he was simply stating what ideas many have about satan and how his name is used and under what context it is taken in the Bible...R

I am glad you bowed out of that thread Don..it was very sad..

[godchild]

don, rachel explained clearly what logic posted. Of course satan exists. He is not a physical being, but a spirit, however. I said "absolutely" to his post, meaning that I agreed there are numerous writings and beliefs on satan...Period. Got it?

I haven't been a mormon for 21 years. If you want to do a study on them, I suggest its a good idea; then you can see how closely it resembles am's teachings. If you decide to join them, it won't be too much of a "shock" for you.

If you had gone back and read the posts about the virgin birth, you would have seen I have never denied it. Mary was a virgin before she conceived and after she conceived Jesus. She had not "known" her husband (had sex with any man). Remember, it is called the "Virgin Birth", not just a virgin conception. She conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit, not a man. A spirit is a spirit, not a man. Do you believe the Holy Spirit literally had sex with Mary? I should think you would, (but you're wrong)just as you believe satan had sex with Eve, and thus became the first father. You will find nowhere on any website where I have stated Jesus Christ is not the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. I don't think you all comprehend what this means; thus your confusion. Watchman stated Jesus is not in Joseph's geneology, whereupon I showed him in Matthew where he was wrong. I also showed the verse where Mary called Joseph Jesus' father. I understand why, but you all seem confused about that also. Let me say once again, Jesus fulfilled the "Royal lineage" and the "legal one", according to tradition.

I believe Moses wrote the Pentateuch: The name of the first five books of the Old Testament. Why you ask that question, I am unsure.

Is Christ God? Are you really asking my opinion? I have always said I believe in the Trinity; God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, who are ONE.

I must thank you for your honesty in admitting the photos were on the fig tree cafe, stating these Jewish celebrities are kenites. smyrna seems to have missed where you acknowledged that; but then, I did too.

[godchild]

I hope, don, that you will start reading my posts instead of taking the word of smyrna, watchman, abi, terlu, zeke and angie (who have a major problem with either twisting my words, being too ignorant to understand what I am saying, choose to take their buddie's word, or just enjoy assaulting any non-scer). Thanks!

[yaqakallah]

Correct me if I am wrong. But the way I understand Satan and Angels they do indeed have physical bodies. Remember the story of Abram and Lot. 2 angels 'ate' human food prepare for them and the citizens of Sodom and G... thought the 2 Angels were real men. That is just 2 examples of may in the Bible. And was'nt it Peter that warned us to invite strangers into our home for we might be inviting an Angel and not know it?

[skooter942000]

- Hey KIM http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif
- and ALL




Yes, satan has a Physical Body.

An ANGELIC BODY.

It is not FLESH , (but it has MASS).


Angels-

EAT
WALK
WEAR CLOTHES.

- They can EVEN HOLD SWORDS.

- Need Scriptures? (...Anyone)


Read 1Cor 15, (on the different Bodies).

ONE IS OF THE EARTH
ONE IS MADE OF ANOTHER MATERIAL

The book of JUDE shows some are in CHAINS.
-=- Being held until (REV 9) occurs.

These are not FLESH BEINGS.
The CHAINS they have are SPIRITUAL CHAINS.

satan is not a PUFF of smoke.
- As some may believe.


In the Book of JOB satan went before the LORD.
His words are quite insightful.

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And gc

Thanks for answering the questions.

Your messages on that other listing,
(CB) , - i do not read.

I went there Three times,
- (And stayed for a few minutes each time).



i am not welcome, (So why should i go there)?




i, (on another thread), posted about my Mormon
experience.

i would not desire to "JOIN THEM".
- i said no;)

But i would never call them,
(or any other DENOM), - a CULT.

WACKO was a CULT.
The cool-aid drinkers had a CULT.

- Need i go on?


[&amp;]

GOD did not HAVE SEX with MARY.

HE can plant a seed, just by thinking it.

- When HE speaks, (HE CREATES).

So try not to think for me.
- that's what a CULT would dohttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif


And about the genealogy's (MATT/LUKE)
they are not the same.

http://www.angelfire.com/nv/TheOliveBranch/append99.html

They separate After KING DAVID!!!

- AT "Solomon &amp; NATHAN"

NATHAN BEGAT CHRIST (Family wise).
Solomon BEGAT JOSEPH (CHRIST'S STEP-father)

- Heli is MARY'S FATHER.
- Joseph was his IN-LAW.
http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.cgi?file=greeklexicon&amp;isindex=3543



Anyone should be able to see this.

See
Matt 1:7
Luke 3:31


Don <*))><

[godchild]

don, Read Matthew 1:1 and Matt. 1:16. Jacob was Joseph's father. Matthan was Jacob's father. Eleazar was Matthan's father. Eliud was Eleazar's father. Achim was Eliud's father. Sadoc was Achim's father. Azor was Sadoc's father. Eliakim was Azor's father. Abuid was Eliakim's father. Zorobabel was Abuid's father. Shealtiel was Zorobabel's father. Jechoniah was Shealtiel's father. Jechmiah was Shealtiel's father. Josiah was Jechmiah's father. Amon was Josiah's father. Manasses was Amon's father. Ezekias was Manasses' father. Achaz was Ezekias' father. Joatham was Achaz's father. Ozias was Joatham's father. Joram was Ozias' father. Jehosaphat was Joram's father. Asa was Jehosaphat's father. Abia was Asa's father. Roboam was Abia's father. Solomon was Roboam's father. David was Solomon's father (Matt.6)

This shows Jesus royal lineage through the house of David (through Joseph).

You're right. Heli is the father of Mary. Joseph and Mary were cousins.
The genealogy of Jesus in Matthew 1:1-17 established his legal lineage and
right to the throne of David. It is Joseph's ancestry which constituted
this Jewish requirement (through the male).

The genealogy of Jesus which is found in Luke 3:23-38 is the physical linage
of Jesus - the ancestry of Mary. (Read Luke 3:23 carefully: Jesus was
assumed to be the son of Joseph, but he was really the "son of Heli,..."
Therefore, Heli was Mary's father.

Please note that these two lineages meet in King David: the legal descent
of Jesus coming through King Solomon, David's son (Matt. 1:6-7), while the
physical lineage of Christ came through Nathan, another son of David (Lk.
3:31).

[skooter942000]

From gc

Watchman stated Jesus is not in Joseph's genealogy, whereupon I showed him in Matthew where he was wrong.

------------------------------------

- Watchman is correct.




gc

- How can you not see this?



CHRIST did not COME THROUGH JOSEPH.
- (And you agree)



The REGAL (Heritage) of CHRIST,
is totally proven in Luke 3.

- AS is HIS LEVITICAL HERITAGE.

50% JUDAHITE
50% LEVITE


CHRIST is a SON of DAVID. (That's Scriptural)

That's where the KING-LINE resides.


HE is "Not" a son through SOLOMON.
- (Except by LAW), - through JOSEPH.

- Being Technical.






- Why does Matt chapter one , throw so many?



This is not worth arguing over.

[smyrna]

In reference to the denials of Godchild and Rachel,

They can claim that "illogical_al" was just posting "ideas" about satan, but Godchild clearly agreed with a particular post in which "illogical_al" stated that satan was merely some collective "force" and never stated he was an entity. Just go to CB's Let's Talk About Satan thread,and look for the post by Godchild that simply has two sign icons, one that says 'Good Post' and the other 'I Agree'. Then read the posts by "illogical_al" that she is agreeing with.

In addition, she never denied the Documentary Hypothesis,(which Illogical_al also explained, though he didn't use that term, because he probably didn't know that is what it is called, (some scholar!)) which is the hypothesis that Moses did not write the Torah, and furthermore, if she always believed that satan existed, then why did she not say so on that thread, but went tailwagging after "illogical_al" and his absolutely ridiculous commentaries?

After all, this guy was claiming that satan, if he existed, was used to "carry out God's evil intentions"! Don't believe me, just read that thread yourself.

Nothing but agreement by Godchild. No challenge, no scoffing, like she is so apt to do here.

This is just more hypocrisy coming from Godchild. What would she have said about the SC students had we started a thread like that?

Do we really have to guess?

As for the Virgin birth issue, I guess I'll have to find her post where she snidely retorts that Mary even called Joseph Jesus' father, and then remarked: "I suppose Mary was lying when she said that" or some statement to the same effect.

Therfore she openly cast doubt on this very important teaching, and she never came to any defense of her statement until many days afterwards, when, apparently finding the answer, she posted that Joeseph was Jesus' "legal" father.

Godchild now needs to explain why she trivializes the Book of Enoch, when it was quoted in Jude, when it is considered canonical by the Ethiopian Church, and also recoginzed as divinely inspired by many Christian and Jewish groups.

Godchild also needs to explain how her charge of SC being "Jew Haters" can be valid, when the SC o teaches "British Israelism" (really a very unacceptable term) which is based upon evidence that the Hebrew tribes populated the British Isles, as well as European countries, which of course would mean most of our ancestors came from the Tribes, which would mean she is claiming we hate our own ancestors!

(Message edited by smyrna on February 12, 2007)

[arron]

god child... hey just keep puttiong out the word of THE LORD thast is something that the devil cant stand and cant take he has to back off when the word id given. you are doing a great job in defending the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS .... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

[skooter942000]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gifAmazinghttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/uhoh.gif


From: Arron

god child... hey just keep puttiong out the word of THE LORD

&amp;

you are doing a great job in defending the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS .... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
---------------------------------------


Arron,

Um, just to be clear, she complains when the scriptures are used (here).

So what words are you speaking of Arron?



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- Hey smyrnahttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

(gc) said she believes satan exists.
- (And no doubt he does). Boy does he.

- he uses many here at times to attack others.



she is just a little confused about the spirit
bodies.

1Corinthians 15 would be a help here.




[GROUP]

British Israel-ism teaches HATE.
SC does not teach HATE.

Though many detractors would love others to accept this as TRUTH, (Which it's not).

Pastor teaches the WORDS OF GOD.
THE WORKS OF GOD.
THE LOVE of GOD (Daily).

And how many here, (even show a little love,
at times to others).


i believe in TOUGH LOVE, (When needed).


TRUE "HATE" is not GOD-LIKE.


Pastor does not teach HATE.
No matter how many accuse him of this. (HERE)

Anyone that does, (IS A KNOWN LIAR).
- (And MARKED in my mind)


i have studied with SC for over 12 years.
The FRUIT is in the DAILY BROADCASTS.
Shown to ALL, - Daily.


His Character stands the TEST!!!
- (how about yours)?


Since 1981 how many times can a SOUL,
who may have fallen short, (Find forgiveness)?

When a SIN is Blotted out, (It never Existed).

So who here has the RIGHT to point fingers
at others?


Heck i cannot even count how many times i have
Repented since that DATE.

And to ACCUSE SOMEONE for PAST MISTAKES,
- (IS EVIL).


We all FALL SHORT , (at times).
- Mankind is not perfect.

- CHRIST ALONE (WAS/...IS).


We may be for a moment here and there.
- Then we may fall short again.


That is why we have the Blood of CHRIST.

To use when needed,
(To ATONE), for our indiscretions &amp; (Mistakes).


Rotten Fruit (is just that).

ACCUSING OTHERS, (is not CHRIST-LIKE).



"ALMIGHTY GOD" is JUDGE,
- That's HIS JOB!!!

(...Not yours)




- who here spreads hate to others.

Spreads TWISTED LIES to others.
- a HALF TRUTH , is just that.


Who here tries at every opportunity,
to Character assassinate others when posting
on this board?

(There are more than ONE)


"WE all" - fall short at times.



satan is the accuser.

- his ways, are not GOD'S WAYS.

The Spiritually BLIND, cannot lead the Blind.
(Or both shall fall in the ditch).


Perhaps those who band together against SC
should take inventory.

A cult is a cult ,
(if it follows their leaders agenda).


- That's a FACT!!!



FOLLOW CHRIST
&amp; not satan

he is the destroyer.



REPENTANCE (is) a "GIFT"


Don <*))><

[smyrna]

Give me a break, Arron. Do you think Godchild's lies, ignorance, and other tircks is "good work?"

You think agreeing with "illogical_al" that satan does not exist is "good work?"

I saw what you wrote over there at CB's Let's Talk About Satan thread, Arron, Even you did not like stuff they said, like: "Satan is God's Lawyer."

Do you also agree that satan "carries out God's evil instructions?" Huh, Arron?

You call people who agree with that garbage as people doing "good work?"

No matter what you have to say about the Chapel, we don't go around denying or questioning satans' existance, nor do we trash sacred books related to Judaism or Christianity that are not canonical, such as Enoch. Godchild does. So much for "Good Work."

You are a clown Arron, a pawn in their little game playing over at that stupid Cultbusters site where they can play their cowardly game of posting nonsense about the Chapel without fear of being proven wrong.

It's a good thing the only people that read their stuff is themselves, their own little cult unto themselves, and us of course, for the entertainment.

[franklin]

arron... hey just keep putting out the word of THE LORD that is something that the devil can't stand and cant take. He has to back off when the word is given. It's obvious you are speaking God's truth when they attack you personally. You are doing a great job in defending the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS .... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[smyrna]

Hey Frankie,

Why don't you go back to your own website, and look at the thread Arron, "illogical_al" and Godchild plus others are into:Let's Talk About Satan. Then tell me about how these folks are "putting out the word."

Are you going to deny that they are talking about how satan is just a concept? Or how satan, as a mere literary device, "carries out God's EVIL INTENTIONS?"

Tell me Frankie, that those posts don't say that, so I have a better reason to copy and paste them here for all to see easily.

Why don't you claim here that "illogical_al" didn't side with the "liberal" theologians, who say Moses did not write the first five books of the Old Testament.

That way, I can post that stuff here to not only show you don't even know what is going on over at Cultbusters, but that YOUR version of "putting out the word" is to deny some of the most fundamental teachings of the Bible.

Finally, as for you, why don't you once again share with us the onehumanrace.com website, which claims all the races came about due to a "curse" and "genetic mistakes."

Yeah, Frankie, you and your minions are "putting out the word" all right.

(Message edited by smyrna on February 13, 2007)

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Why would He do that?

Because His ways are beyond our understanding?

Thank God.

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[abiyah]

<font color="000000"><font face="times new roman,times,roman"><font size="-1">
Aaron WROTE:
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QUOTE: " god child... hey just keep puttiong out the word of THE LORD thast is something that the devil cant stand and cant take he has to back off when the word id given. you are doing a great job in defending the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS .... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK " END
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Aaron.... you can not be serious with this above stated quote. Vivian has told numerous lies here, she has made false accusations against the brothers and sisters that have gathered here for Christ's Name sake, she has sown discord at every angle, she has twisted The Truth of God's Word, and the words of others that post here, she rarely every post The Truth of God's Word, and was pleased when the adminstratoers here told us not to post SO MUCH Scripture, she was delighted by that. You must understand that Ms. Hadden is personally attacked because she personally attacks others, people are forced to defend themselves against her lies and false accusations, she is not attacked because of The Word of God.... you do understand that... right ? And here you go and tell her to KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ???? Are you for real Aaron ? Do you honestly believe that our Heavenly Father is pleased with her behavior here ? COME ON ! You can not be serious, you just can not be ? The Eyes of The LORD are upon each and every one of us, and I'm just so glad and Thankful for it.</font><font color="ff0000"><font face="times new roman,times,roman"><font size="+1">

QUESTION ?

Luke 6:39
" And He Spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind ? Shall they not BOTH FALL into the ditch ? "</font></font></font><font color="0000ff"><font face="times new roman,times,roman"></font>


Aaron... I can only hope you know the answers to these questions for Christ is Teaching you something here, its a lesson. You better 'follow Him', His EXAMPLE that He set for you, for us, and not Ms. Hadden's.

Abiyah</font>

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
I don't see you folks taking watchman to do about cursing other members of Christ's body.
Do you stand with him in this?

No bodies hands are clean here.

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[abiyah]

<font color="000000"><font face="times new roman,times,roman"><font size="-2">David WROTE:
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QUOTE: " I don't see you folks taking watchman to do about cursing other members of Christ's body. Do you stand with him in this? " END
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Excuse me ??? " you folks ".... ? Who is it that you are addressing as "you folks"? And what is it exactly that you 'accuse' these folks of ? What is it that you accuse Watchman of ? </font><font color="ff0000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>

Curse = In the Hebrew is 'arar and it means
1) to curse

a) (Qal)

1) to curse

2) cursed be he (participle used as in curses)

b) (Niphal) to be cursed, cursed

c) (Piel) to curse, lay under a curse, put a curse on

d) (Hophal) to be made a curse, be cursed

Curse in the Hebrew is 'qalal and it means
To be slight, be swift, be trifling, be of little account, be light

a) (Qal)

1) to be slight, be abated (of water)

2) to be swift

3) to be trifling, be of little account

b) (Niphal)

1) to be swift, show oneself swift

2) to appear trifling, be too trifling, be insignificant

3) to be lightly esteemed

c) (Piel)


1) to make despicable

2) to curse

d) (Pual) to be cursed

e) (Hiphil)

1) to make light, lighten

2) to treat with contempt, bring contempt or dishonour

f) (Pilpel)

1) to shake

2) to whet

g) (Hithpalpel) to shake oneself, be moved to and fro

Curse in the Hebrew is 'q@lalah and it means
to curse, vilification, execration

Curse in the Hebrew is naqab and it means
1) to pierce, perforate, bore, appoint

a) (Qal)

1) to pierce, bore

2) to prick off, designate

b) (Niphal) to be pricked off, be designated, be specified

2) (Qal) to curse, blaspheme
www.blueletterbible.org (http://www.blueletterbible.org)
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Should I go on..... ? Which one of these has Watchman done to you or to 'Christians'... prove to me that he has "cursed" you or others. To me it seems that Watchman may have used some harsh words with you because you, for one have not believed The Truths which have been brought forth to you from The Word of God here, yet you keep coming here day after day, and snuff at it. Secondly, you misled those that may read here into thinking they are gonna be raptured away. Now perhaps his words may seem harsh to you, but the reality is that this brother is sincerely trying to help you David and to warn you of the deception that is to come in these end times, and indeed we ALL have warned you, and WITH Scripture, yet you receive it not, but still come to these SC Threads. </font>

[skooter942000]

To CURSE SOMEONE,
- is TO JUDGE SOMEONE. (TRUTHFULLY)

- We all know better than this , (right)?


- DEUTERONOMY 28 explains ALMIGHTY GOD'S FEELINGS.

Do good = Blessings
Do wrong = Correction




And by what authority does any here have
to do this?

(Where did watchmen do this)?
- i must have missed it.


'i' know the RAPTURE is not GOD-LIKE.



'i' know there is going to be problems for
TEACHING this , - JUDGMENT BEGINS AT THE PULPIT.



(Read Ezekiel 13) of the Fly Away plan.

"ALMIGHTY GOD" is really, really, really,
- against it!!! (Facts are Facts)

no ONE is going to FLY to save their soul alive.



- That's Discernment, (not JUDGMENT).

- There is a difference.



David,

- i answer for my own mistakes.
- (AS do you)

Not for other peoples indiscretions.

(*if* - someone else did fall short).
- Not saying anyone did.



The discussions here turn to HATE.
- Because that is why these threads exist.


HATERS of SC come here.
Are joined with Atheists.

And then they band together, &amp; attack as ONE.


Shows who's side, - who is on.
- (as i see it)


- WAS CHRIST LOVED BY ALL FOR SHARING TRUTH?


- Um, not quite.


WE use the WORD to correct, (And instruct),
then the accusations fly the more.



'i' never post angrily here , - myself.

'i' just can't believe the HATE by some.

Then they turn around and repost things
over and over again.

- same HATE - (Same message)
-Same accusations-



- Some need to see a therapist,
- (For anger management).


It amazes me how many MOCK CHRIST here.
- on other threads.

yet no one sticks up for CHRIST, because they are too busy here , (Accusing the Brethren).


A believer in CHRIST, (Is just that).
Not all Believe the exact same.
(So what).

Plant a seed,
- if it does not take,
WALK AWAY ,( &amp; ) Turn it over to GOD.
if it is a GOODLY SEED (It will grow).

- Unless GOD desires it (NOT TO).


SIN leads us away from CHRIST.
Repentance gives us all a fresh start. (Isa 43:25-26)





There are those who actually act like CHRIST here.

Then there are those who act like satan.


- What a MESS





Is this a goodly thread (Y/N)?
Any thoughts?

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/28544.html?1171343255


- Back to business
(remember the ARMOR) - &amp; salt

But remember - Too much sodium is not healthy.

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
abiyah,
"cultblunders and sheperds chapel watchman's post #2028 Sat. Jan 27th 12:50PM."

He prayed for God to put plagues on me.
Is that God's heart?
NO!
It is watchman's heart though.

Watchman revealed what real hatred is.
It came from his heart.

There is no excuse for this type of scat.
It is not God's will to do this to any one,
let alone a brother in Christ.

Inexcusable.
So don't try to whitewash it.

</font>}

[skooter942000]

(Does ALMIGHTY GOD) - Bless people today?
(Does ALMIGHTY GOD) - correct people today?


Deu 28:1 ¶ And it shall come to pass,
if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the
voice of the LORD thy God, to observe [and]
to do all his commandments which I command
thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set
thee on high above all nations of the earth:


Deu 28:2 And all these blessings shall come
on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt
hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.


-----------(And then HE states this)------------

Deu 28:14 And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, [to] the right hand, or [to] the left, to go after other gods to serve them.


Deu 28:15 ¶ But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:


Deu 28:16 Cursed [shalt] thou [be] in the city, and cursed [shalt] thou [be] in the field.


Deu 28:17 Cursed [shall be] thy basket and thy store.
______ETC_______

ALMIGHTY GOD corrects, (or Blesses).
- That's HIS duty. (HIS Discretion)


- Intercessory PRAYER - (REALLY - WORKS).

I always PRAY That GOD'S WILL is done
in any circumstance. (For GOOD or "other")

"HE" understands if someone has been WRONGED.
- We can only ask for HIS ASSISTANCE.


If a CHILD is doing well (What is there to fear)?
if a CHILD is being naughty (that's another story).


Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you, do good to them that
hate you, and pray for them which despitefully
use you, and persecute you;


Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your
Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his
sun to rise on the evil and on the good,
and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.



It is not wrong to PRAY for others ,
- (To receive their DUE). (In GOD's WILL)

-----
--------
-------------

David, i did find that posting.

Watchman ,
-(Though i would not have shared this publicly),

Prayed for your HELP, not HURT,
- to be honest.

What is more IMPORTANT

The Flesh man
Or the SOUL of MAN

having a perfect life in the flesh,
to have ones SOUL PERISH , (Is not a good life).

Correction (NOW) would be far better than
CORRECTION LATER.

If you stopped teaching this ,
(or sharing it as fact),
- that would be a GOOD WORK.


- satan thrives in these groups

He loves nothing better than having
Christians at each others throats.


THE HATE , - feeds him


- i say , (starve that idiot)



"TWO WRONGS" , does not make - "ONE" [RIGHT].
If you did nothing wrong DAVID (What is there to fear)?

- Then again......


RAPTURE is not Biblical.

We gather back (Grk-HARPAZO) to CHRIST,
after the son of perdition sits in Jerusalem,
claiming to be god ,(in the SIGHT of MAN).
- (With supernatural Abilities)

Believing RAPTURE is upon the hearer.

Sharing it to others (Is upon the hearer,
- and the ONE who shares it).


Repentance is a GIFT.
- (4 us all)

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat013.html#19

[skooter942000]

- just to ADD

GOD is in CONTROL

- We do not have the authority to CURSE OTHERS.


When the TWO WITNESSES get here.

- That's another story.
&amp; (they shall do, what they shall do) = Rev 11



And it would do everyone WELL (To stand with them),
instead of looking for some quick escape.


<font size="+2">- IS GOD NOT ABLE? </font>




The Children in the Fiery Furnace (LIVED).
- They did not perish.



-(CHRIST was with them)

"LITERALLY"
"SPIRITUALLY"
[&amp;]
"PHYSICALLY"


http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif - (Got FAITH)?

[godchild]

Who was the Lord speaking to in Deuteronomy? He was speaking to the Israelites. All of them. (The curse from watchman was not asking for God's will to be done.) What the Lord warned of has been happening for years because they didn't obey God's laws and commandments. It speaks of their time on earth. Christians are not under the law, but are justified through Jesus Christ.

If scer's want to be under the law, let them. If they fail in even one, they fail in all. Jesus Christ fulfilled the law for those who place their faith in Him, not in their works.

[skooter942000]

gc your reading skills, (Are lacking)

He repeated the words - "May you".

Dear Lord,
...May You spare

...may You deliver

...May you bring

...I ask that you intercede


In Jesus' precious name, I pray.

AMEN

So, David, you see, I do care and have always cared.

---
-----
---------

BTW/

We are under the LAW of GRACE.
- GRACE without WORKS = [???]


WORKS are JUDGED HOW?

- (by the LAW)



But we are not JUSTIFIED by THE LAW.
- (But by GOD'S GRACE)



But that still does not mean
we can do as we please.

The Commandments are still in effect.
(CHRIST became the LAW)

HE became our sabbath.
- Our PASSOVER - (HE paid that PRICE)
HE is our Kinsmen Redeemer



- CHRIST did not simply erase them.

CERTAIN LAWS are still in effect Dear.


LOVE GOD
LOVE OTHERS
BE HEALTHY


- Sorry you don't know this.



Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion
over you: for ye are not under the law,
but under grace.


Rom 6:15 ¶ What then? shall we sin,
because we are not under the law,
but under grace? God forbid.

LAWS
STATUTES
ORDINANCES

- Learn the Subtle Differences
(Not all were nailed to the cross)


ACCUSING CHRISTIANS - (is not CHRIST-LIKE)


1Jo 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin
[which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he
shall give him life for them that sin not unto
death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say
that he shall pray for it.


1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin:
and there is a sin not unto death.

[skooter942000]

gc your reading skills, (Are lacking)

He repeated the words - "May you".

Dear Lord,
...May You spare

...may You deliver

...May you bring

...I ask that you intercede


In Jesus' precious name, I pray.

AMEN

So, David, you see, I do care and have always cared.

---
-----
---------

BTW/

We are under the LAW of GRACE.
- GRACE without WORKS = [???]


WORKS are JUDGED HOW?

- (by the LAW)



But we are not JUSTIFIED by THE LAW.
- (But by GOD'S GRACE)



But that still does not mean
we can do as we please.

The Commandments are still in effect.
(CHRIST became the LAW)

HE became our sabbath.
- Our PASSOVER - (HE paid that PRICE)
HE is our Kinsmen Redeemer



- CHRIST did not simply erase them.

CERTAIN LAWS are still in effect Dear.


LOVE GOD
LOVE OTHERS
BE HEALTHY


- Sorry you don't know this.



Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion
over you: for ye are not under the law,
but under grace.


Rom 6:15 ¶ What then? shall we sin,
because we are not under the law,
but under grace? God forbid.

LAWS
STATUTES
ORDINANCES

- Learn the Subtle Differences
(Not all were nailed to the cross)


ACCUSING CHRISTIANS - (is not CHRIST-LIKE)


1Jo 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin
[which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he
shall give him life for them that sin not unto
death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say
that he shall pray for it.


1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin:
and there is a sin not unto death.

[smyrna]

Godchild is running out of threads to post at, since she is obviously ignoring those that document her lies and obvious errors, such as her trivialization of the Book of Enoch, and her claim it was no divinely inspired, even though it was quoted in Jude, and is also a part of the Ethiopian canon.

Let us not forget also, that she is participating in a Cultbusters thread that speculates about the existance of satan, and she apparently sgrees with "illogical_al" that satan does not exist as a single entity, but was a mere "concept" that is used in Scripture to allow God to have someone to carry out His "evil instructions."

Do I have be more clear about this? They are claiming God gives out evil instructions!

Well,Godchild and the other CB cowards can ignore these issues, refuse to provide evidence of their accusations, etc.

I love it!

[franklin]

What you love is arnie's arse from where you receive all of your racist heresy! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[yaqakallah]

Excellent post Skooter!

Definition of the saints:

Revelation14:12: "Here is the definition of the saints, here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus".

The Nelson Study Bible NKJ version:

"The patience of the saints echos Revelation 13:10. as well as John's place as a partner with his readers in the "patience of Jesus Christ" (1:9) those who patiently keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, even in very difficult times (ch 13) will recieve a special divine blessing."

Vivian,

I have been going thru very difficult times as you well know. I have now seen my DR for the 4th time today and was admitted into the hospital and after a chest X-ray they told me that I have severe scarring in both lungs and told me I have Interstital Lung Disease. I assume you want proof so please feel free to pry into my personal life and contact:

Nebraska Methodist Hospital at (402)354-4424 and ask them if Kimberly Fredrick was admitted to the Hospital via Emergency room and speak to DR Elizabeth Noordhoek, MD. My account # is 3283247-001, patID 3283247, DOB: 11/1/1965. Discharged 2/14/2007 1:53:48 PM.

I do hope that you repent of your sins and verbal abuse to me. Your soul is in jeopardy and I wish you to be a loving Christian woman so you can enter the kingdom.

If you have repented to me in a post I have not seen it, so I apologize in advance.

Yes I am posting very late.I spent time with my kids and called my parents after they went to bed. I had to write some letters about my disease and the pain I feel is nearly unbearable and I cannot sleep nor think straight anymore. I also researched my disease which took alot of time.

[yaqakallah]

King James Version for James 2:1-26

James 2:1 ¶ My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, [the Lord] of glory, with respect of persons.

James 2:2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;

James 2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

James 2:4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

James 2:6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

James 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

James 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

James 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

James 2:14 ¶ What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

James 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

James 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit?

James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?


James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

James 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

James 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way?

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

[yaqakallah]

Revelation 20:12: "And I saw, small and great. standing before God, and books were opened . And another book was opened, which is The Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.....And they were judged, each one according to his works"

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
I thought we where supposed to give as unto the Lord and not for reasons of spite?

I can see it now.
Dear Lord,I give this money to
(add your favorite preacher here)
just to be spiteful to
(add you least favorite person here).

Is that the mind of Christ?

You are free to do what you want but I have to wonder if that is a very good approach to anything?

Just thinking in print.
LOL.

</font>}

[yaqakallah]

David, do you mind if I ask you just to whom you were referring to in your post above mine?

Sorry a bit confussed.

Kim

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Hey Kim,
I was refering to the title of this thread.
Sorry to confuse you.

I never mind being asked a question.
After all,if you don't ask I can't answer.

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

</font>}

[smyrna]

Franklin has been reduced to heckling, because he can't answer any questions. Godchild is definitely avoiding the same issues.

Can we all say victory?

Just so no one has to scroll up to my last post. Here it is once again:

Godchild is running out of threads to post at, since she is obviously ignoring those that document her lies and obvious errors, such as her trivialization of the Book of Enoch, and her claim it was no divinely inspired, even though it was quoted in Jude, and is also a part of the Ethiopian canon.

Let us not forget also, that she is participating in a Cultbusters thread that speculates about the existance of satan, and she apparently sgrees with "illogical_al" that satan does not exist as a single entity, but was a mere "concept" that is used in Scripture to allow God to have someone to carry out His "evil instructions."

Do I have be more clear about this? They are claiming God gives out evil instructions!

Well,Godchild and the other CB cowards can ignore these issues, refuse to provide evidence of their accusations, etc.

I love it!

[smyrna]

Just for old time's sake, I've decided to post the first entry into the Franklin Is Finished thread here at FN. Please access that thread for more hilarious stuff about our buddy Frankie:

smyrna
Senior Member
Username: smyrna

Post Number: 1314
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 66.157.43.229
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 5:43 am:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is absolute proof that Franklin has sunk to a level, or has rather revealed himself to be of such low moral character, he now jokes about another FactNet participant having male to male sex with an Orangutan!

FRANKLIN IS (or should be) FINISHED

From the Visions of God Thread ("Purple lighting")
comes this exchange between IHAVESINNED and FRANKLIN:


ihavesinned
Senior Member
Username: ihavesinned

Post Number: 2787
Registered: 1-2006
Posted From: 24.17.78.60

Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 4:52 pm:
Has anyone seen a vision from god shaped like a flashing purple lightning bolt? It seems vaguely gay, and more than a little phallic if you ask me.


franklin
Senior Member
Username: franklin

Post Number: 4736
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 76.4.117.127

Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 6:09 pm:
It might seem "vaguely" gay to you, but not as blatantly gay and disgusting as your activities with your orangutan Clyde.

SMYRNA: Several months ago, a person who called himself "Balaam" insinuated a homosexual liason between myself and Pastor Arnold Murray. Soon afterwards, he issued a Mea Culpa and left Factnet.

Because Franklin's brand of Christianity does not allow him to admit any error, he will not only ignore his complete lack of taste and character, but will simply try to digress from his error, by reminding us of our own foibles, which is not even relative to what he has clearly done.

This is hard evidence of how Franklin's brand of Christianity has done nothing to mature him. He plays childish games, he now accuses someone of having sex with an orangutan. Joking? I am sure, but what kind of person is this guy to make sick jokes like this?

I thought Frankie was done when he used the Cultbusters.com.au site as his own personal "pickup club", trying to use the CB site as a dating site, against not only the intent of the discussion boards there, but also to without regard to the women there that did not want this kind of attention.

But now he stops even lower, and makes sick jokes, and in a malicious context, not to make the other guy laugh, but just to insult him.

This is what Frankie's religious beliefs do for him.

[smyrna]

Because Godchild (Vivian Hetherton Hadden)once again made reference to me sending money to the Shepherd's Chapel, I decided to revive this delightful thread, and remind the other SC students to place a note honoring Ms. Hadden for "inspiring" us to send more money the SC.

(Now, all I have to do is sit back and wait for one of Godchild's "love bombing" red letter posts!)http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[godchild]

Lord, forgive them; for they know not what they do. Amen

[smyrna]

I know EXACTLY what I am doing, and I am observing those who we should know by their fruits.

And people who lie, engage in trickery and cowardice in their hateful zeal to discredit someone they disagree with and are intolerant of,instead of just keeping to themselves, are not bearing good fruit.

Does anybody notice the number of Godchild's post in two years? Almost five thousand. Yet she tells me to "get a life". Give me a break. How many of her nearly five thousand posts are of her sticking her nose in other people's business?

Now she's going to play holy roller, and run around quoting Scripture. What a farce.