A Question for Ungodlychild

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Ungodly-child,

There was a discussion with you about 2 weeks ago or so, but unfortunately, after asking you for clarification on your stance, you left. Since I couldn't remember which thread to bump up, I decided to start a new thread.

We were discussing the Elect and predestination.

You told me that the elect are all Christians.

Now, you believe in the rapture, that all Christians are going to be raptured. So, in fact, you are saying that all the elect are going to be gone due to the rapture.

But we read in the Scriptures that they are here during the tribulation.

Can you please explain this to me?</font>

[godchild]

If you want to speak to me, address me by my chosen user name, please. Otherwise, you can't/won't be taken seriously.

[smyrna]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gifHow about just Vivian Hetherton Hadden?

By the way, Ter, is "Cold Bich" or "mongrel" one of your user names? Godchild apparently thinks so.

Can't these people ever get through one day without creating digressions and distractions?

Obviously, Godchild knew you were talking to her, that should have been enough.

As for me, how many posts did Godchild address to me starting with "Smearna?"

A world class champion hypocrite, that's Vivian.

Godchild, Vivian, whatever, I doubt you'll try to answer Ter's question.

[smyrna]

Ok, I stand corrected. Hey, I thought us SC folks never correct each other! LOL!

So godchild, what say you? Can you answer the question posed to you?

[smyrna]

"BTW, they [the detractors] are the first ones to run to moderator crying "boo hoo...look at what they are saying". Never mind what they say to us. Yet, we do not run to the moderator."

You got that right Ter,

Not only do we not run whining to the moderator, but we also go back to the source,people like S_D Godchild and Franklin when we need evidence of their accusations, which don't seem to come forth too often, to say the least.

S_D as is often the case, deliberately ignores the point we were making, which is the hypocrisy of Godchild.

Now, so as not to lose the real reason this thread was initiated, maybe Godchild, when her "valuable" time is free, can answer the question in the first post here.

I know Stage Director won't. She'd have trouble trying to describe the clothes she is wearing today.

[stage_director]

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I know Stage Director won't. She'd have trouble trying to describe the clothes she is wearing today.
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I'm afraid I'd have to like you a whole lot better to describe what I'm wearing to you, puddin' ... http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[godchild]

terD, bite me, bich! (Spiritually speaking, of course. I'm speaking of you as some wild mongrel dog, of which the people of biblical times had absolutely no use for. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

You see, you haven't learned anything from am either. You must be really slow-minded as well as slow every other way. Let's call it "development". You were kept at the 2 year old mentality, I see. zeke used to say am went through the whole bible in four years. That's a mighty long time, but then he's got to add all his neo-nazi crap, which takes a lot longer, doesn't it? I notice he's always got to look at his 'notes' before he says anything about the Greek or Hebrew definitions. He's as phoney as a 6 dollar bill. You mean he couldn't in all that time answer one of those questions for you? And worse, you say you have a bible, but you couldn't find the answers BY YOURSELF. You poor bich, no wonder you tag along behind these Jew-hating friends of yours who have really got you fooled, haven't they, ha-ha. They smirk behind your back, you know. They call you a 'wanta be a jew girl, so she says she THINKS she is one, cause her relative took a Jew name'. They really hate you for trying to one up them by blood. Don't you know they don't think you're a Jew at all, but a mamzer bich mongrel, which is pretty close but not quite.

[godchild]

Oh terD, scooter said to tell you you're safe. Those giants don't want mongrel biches. They want white women. You're safe, honey! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif He said look at your pix at the fig tree, (boy, that's a real old one, isn't it?)and you aint no white girl; not the kind they want.

[smyrna]

Godchild is letting more of that light of Christ shine through her;

"Oh terD, scooter said to tell you you're safe. Those giants don't want mongrel biches."

What a hateful, vile, miserable woman. That quote will be recorded dutifully for future reference.

Skooter hasn't even posted here! What a nut case!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">LOL Wow, godchild, you're really mad! lolololol

All because I asked you for clarification? lolololololol

And you wonder why I called you "ungodly-child" lololololololol

BTW, me and my family were laughing our butts off reading your posts! lololololol

In all seriousness though,
You need serious help.</font>

[godchild]

You must be on the payroll now too. You're twice as bichy as you used to be. Really hateful.

I figured you out long ago. You think you've covered all your bases. You think God is a man you can waggle your tail at and get in the gate, and if that doesn't work, you'll say, "But my relative has a jewish name". You know, you pathetic bich, we Christians don't have that concern. It doesn't matter our color, our background, none of it. We trust in our risen Savior, Jesus Christ. We know He died for each and everyone of us, because He tells us so and we believe Him. We don't have to 'lie to get into heaven'. It aint gonna work anyway. But all the best to you, with your mentality, we can't blame you for trying; to fit in, that is.

[godchild]

Anyone who suggests God is a 'blob' the way TERD did, makes me as angry as I can get.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">LOL I asked if that's what YOU thought...lolololol

Are you drinking?</font>

[godchild]

And which part of the family, terD? The jewish side or the eighth day adamic one. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif Maybe they would like to answer, ya think! (That's not a question, but an observation.) Just because you don't know your bible, don't take it out on others, mongrel, mamzer bich terD.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">So godchild, can you finally address this post?:

godchild,

There was a discussion with you about 2 weeks ago or so, but unfortunately, after asking you for clarification on your stance, you left. Since I couldn't remember which thread to bump up, I decided to start a new thread.

We were discussing the Elect and predestination.

You told me that the elect are all Christians.

Now, you believe in the rapture, that all Christians are going to be raptured. So, in fact, you are saying that all the elect are going to be gone due to the rapture.

But we read in the Scriptures that they are here during the tribulation.

Can you please explain this to me?</font>

[godchild]

If your son is there, mongrel mamzer bich terD, ask him how he likes being forced to go to a Christian private school by a mom who then deprograms him every day when he gets home. Is that the height of hypocrisy, or what, you sicko emotionally abusive bich, you! What is wrong with you? Is your sickness in your mind or your body? I'd rather have ms than your thought processes.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">godchild, you need to take a break before you have a total breakdown.</font>

[wls]

I get it now.....Godchild et. al. are trying to think it's OK to lower our guard against the "fiery darts of Satan" eh?

WELL!! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

Nice try maybe, but they're going to have to do A LOT better than that.

Satan's Locust Army is going to be slicker than wet ice on ice, and if the Tribulation wasn't shortened to five months, there would be no flesh left to save.

Fortunately for those with the Seal of God IN their forehead, and the full Gospel Armour on, they will defeat Death by the grace of God.

[godchild]

You know, I hope I haven't hurt your feelings with my calling you a sick, emotionally abusive, mongrel mamzer bich, ter. But you see, I figure since you love am so much, and that's what he teaches you are, you must love being talked to this way.

By the way, don't choke on any bones tomorrow. It showed me how much your heart was really in the right place. Aren't you proud!

[godchild]

Here is a prime example of the mamzer cur's twisted interpretation of scripture:

terluvire
Advanced Member
Username: terluvire

Post Number: 586
Registered: 3-2006
Posted From: 24.115.63.15
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:18 am:

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Sugarshrimp,

<u>There are many who believe God didn't create our souls until our mothers concieve. But this is not the case.</u>}

I posted this awhile back dealing with this same subject. I'm reposting it here:
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David said,
Quote:
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Became a living soul.
If you notice it doesn't say God sent a soul from heaven but man became a living soul when "God breathed into him the breath of life."

This is inconsistant with what you have presented.

David,

Again, the scripture you posted:
Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

That verse is speaking of the flesh body. The body made from the earth. God formed Adam's body and then placed a soul inside of that body. The body then became a living, breathing, creature. Without the soul there is no life.

Also
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

The heaven was finished and the earth was finished, and the host of them. What does host mean? It’s “tsaba tseba ah”, and actually it’s feminine believe it or not. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif And it comes from 6633 – [a mass of persons or figuratively things, especially organized for war, or an army]. What does that mean? Stop and think. The heaven was finished, the earth was finished, and the people were finished. That is to say the the souls were ready for this earth age.

God did not create our soul the moment our mother conceived. God was finished with the order of plant life, animals, the races, and the hosts...ect by Gen.2:1 http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

So how does she and her ignorant group, the scers, suggest an eighth day adamic man come about? Did he step off a flying saucer? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif What was he? This is a clear admittance that am/sc teaches that their so-called adamic man, created on the eighth day, is, in their view, separate man from the rest of the races that she has said (the hypocrit) over and over, "God created all the races, and said that it was Very Good."

Kiss my grits, mongrel terd.

[franklin]

Those who call the Jews the literal spawn of satan is HATE speech!

That is what we are against, what we write against SC and you,

your hatred!

How many Jews have been attacked or killed because of what you write and say about them, calling them the literal spawn of satan?

I'm sure more than we'll ever know.

Stop your hate speech NOW!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">That's what I thought Franklin. You are ok with her behavior. Very telling.

The only ones I see talking hate speech are the detractors.</font>

[franklin]

You are the one who along with smyrna/saygoodnightgracie/bruno/getagrip reveal personal information about those who point out that calling the Jews the spawn of satan is hate speech! You both should be banned from factnet.

How many Jews have been attacked or killed because of what you write and say about them, calling them the literal spawn of satan?

[smyrna]

"How many Jews have been attacked or killed because of what you write and say about them, calling them the literal spawn of satan?"

Answer: None. We do not say all "Jews" are the Spawn of satan. Kenites are NOT Jews, only those from the tribe of Judah are technically real Jews.

We've explained this all before, so you are lying, which you think is okay, and you continue to lie, even about my so-called aliases.

So Glen, quit lying, and give Godchild a chance to answer Ter's question.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Quote:
So Glen, quit lying, and give Godchild a chance to answer Ter's question.

Thank you Smyrna!

godchild, I'm still waiting.</font>

[skooter942000]

From: Vivian Hadden

(Quote_)

Oh terD, scooter said to tell you you're safe.
Those giants don't want mongrel biches.
They want white women. You're safe, honey!

He said look at your pix at the fig tree,
(boy, that's a real old one, isn't it?)
and you aint no white girl;
not the kind they want. (_Quote)

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<font size="+2">LIAR </font>

(...These words are not from me)


- THE LORD REBUKE YOU ,
(in JESUS CHRIST'S HOLY NAME)



<font color="aa00aa">
Exd 23:1 ¶ Thou shalt not raise a false report:
put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.


Exd 23:2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to [do] evil;
neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline
after many to wrest [judgment]:
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[stage_director]

Ter ... a while back I saw a post on FTC where you expressed worry that you could be a Kenite because you're Jewish, or part Jewish. At the time I felt bad to think anyone could wonder if where their family came from would make them a second class Christian ... and I guess I still don't understand why you're in a congregation where that would even be in question.

[skooter942000]

Pro 6:12 ¶ A naughty person, a wicked man,
walketh with a froward mouth.


Pro 6:13 He winketh with his eyes,
he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers;


Pro 6:14 Frowardness [is] in his heart,
he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord.


Pro 6:15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly;
suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.


Pro 6:16 ¶ These six [things] doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him:


Pro 6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,


Pro 6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,


Pro 6:19 A false witness [that] speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.



These verses fit many here....(you know who you are).

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa059.html#1

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">SD,
Quote:
Ter ... a while back I saw a post on FTC where you expressed worry that you could be a Kenite because you're Jewish, or part Jewish. At the time I felt bad to think anyone could wonder if where their family came from would make them a second class Christian ... and I guess I still don't understand why you're in a congregation where that would even be in question.

Not so SD. How can you misrepresnt what I said.

I said quote:</font>
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Consider, if you will, the young lady Victoria... a child seeking after Our Lord.
And her parents, of professed Jewish background... willing to listen to us... having the good heart to let their daughter seek her way... what good has the majority of this thread done for them in Our Fathers eyes? I daresay they feel accused/condemned by many of the comments. The odds of them having kenite blood are so miniscule, yet some would have them think everyone of Judah is kenite. And perchance we actually had a kenite come before us earnestly seeking Yahsuha... what is important? What is our calling? This thread needs to be edited or condemed to digital oblivion, it has no place in public domain as it now stands. That is my opinion.
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K********, I was worried about the same thing. It does not look good. I myself have been hesitant to say that I am part Jewish, of Judah. Some here, not all, but some...it seems that as soon as they hear Jew they think Kenite. Now I'm not saying that they truly believe this, but it certainly comes across this way. It is not good. We should not want to chase anyone away who is truly seeking truth of our Father's word. And I do not believe Yah is pleased with some of these conversations. Skooter's post brings up some very valid points. There is much to think about concerning his post. I do say this in peace for I know we all love the Lord and truly do want to please Him.

http://p202.ezboard.com/ftheseasonfrm17.showMessageRange?topicID=2913.topi c&amp;start=261&amp;stop=280


<font color="0000ff">SD, no where at all did I say that I was worried that I was a Kenite.

And if I were, so what.....I know I love the Lord and that's all that matters.

Truth is truth, there are and were Kenites. Being one or not does not change that fact. AND, God said "whoseover will".....I believe he means just that......whosoever will.</font>

[smyrna]

Good post Terri,

It's the same old same old with S_D. Guilt by association schemes, posting stuff more than twenty years old,deliberately misquoting people, which I am really thankful she has done here, because she's also "quoting" from Pastor Murray tapes from the 80's on the other threads!

Based on what you showed us here, it's doubtful she is quoting them without bending and twisting them to fit her agenda.

[godchild]

Question for the mamzer terD, copied from the "mamzer" thread, which she can't answer:



What a team smerf and terD make. They can't answer questions asked because of their lies and ignorant posts, so they have now found a kid who calls himself 'we', claims no education, no affiliation, no nothing but the ability to type; another newer false prophet than am of sc. Man, they'll pull anyone up, if they can't answer for themselves, and have run out of childish, asinine posts to distract from sincere questions like this one. What else can be expected?

re: post one by godchild on this thread.


Kiss my grits, mongrel terd. And answer the question. Why have you been continually lying to people who come here to find out what am/sc teaches by saying here all 'people' were created by Gen. 2:1, yet also say you believe all the 'races' are equal in am's (and your) eyes? Will you stop being a lying hypocrit now, terD, or would you like to re-read more of your (uneducated, unorthodox, unbelievably stupid) posts?

[smyrna]

"Why have you been continually lying to people who come here to find out what am/sc teaches by saying here all 'people' were created by Gen. 2:1, yet also say you believe all the 'races' are equal in am's (and your) eyes?"

How can we answer questions that contain false information?

GOD said that he created mankind and that HE found it very good.

Hey Ter,

Why is ungodly-child calling you TerD?

Your last name doesn't start with a 'D', so what can it be?

Darling?http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Darling?</font>

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[stage_director]

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Not so SD. How can you misrepresnt what I said.

Offered as the FTC post: K********, I was worried about the same thing. It does not look good. I myself have been hesitant to say that I am part Jewish, of Judah. Some here, not all, but some...it seems that as soon as they hear Jew they think Kenite.
END QUOTE

Well, I said it had been awhile ... seems it was the other one who was worried they were a Kenite? But I still question, with what you've said above ... why are you in a congregation where other members will immediately assume you're a "Kenite" because you're Jewish?

Also ... along the same line as something Yaakov keeps inquiring about (that never seems to get answered) ... if you're Jewish and you believe the serpent seed doctrine ... how do you know which "Jew" you are? Can you trace your lineage back to the days of Ezra and Nehemiah?

[smyrna]

"Also ... along the same line as something Yaakov keeps inquiring about (that never seems to get answered) ... if you're Jewish and you believe the serpent seed doctrine ... how do you know which "Jew" you are? Can you trace your lineage back to the days of Ezra and Nehemiah?"

Smyrna: What a stupid question. I wouldn't answer it either, but just so S_D will feel obligated to answer the questions about the planes and other false allegations, here it is:

Jesus taught (and so does the SC)that we would know them by their fruits.(works)

Therefore, anyone who tries to identify Kenites by physical appearance is in error, whether they are SC students or not.

Okay, your turn to answer questions, but you won't because you are dishonest.

[smyrna]

barluveng,

Nice try, but since you have only one post to your credit at Factnet, the detractors (who we call the extremists like Vivian/Godchild, Franklin/Glenn, and Stage Director will just say you are a regular SC student using another identity,as if that nullifies your comment.

In addition, they will also point out that we SC students also call names, but of course they can't point out any racial slurs because we don't use them, and of course, that charge does not nullify their racial slurs nor your comments.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">SD said:
Well, I said it had been awhile

That must be your excuse for everything you've gotten wrong so far. It's your reading comprehension which is off, yet you accuse us because of your poor reading skills.

And, it is not SC's fault that people take what is taught and written in God's word the wrong way. That is on them and not the Chapel.

Barluveng,

Thank you so much for your post. It warmed my heart. Unfortunately, Smyrna may be right in that the detractors will think you are one of us trying to pretend to be someone else. Although, they are the ones who do that here.</font>

[barluveng]

your welcome Terluvire and for the detractors they can think whatever it is that they want to think about me. And yes i am a sc student and darn proud of it. But the truth is the truth and Ms. Hadden took it to a whole other level that it didn't have to go to.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Barluveng said:
But the truth is the truth and Ms. Hadden took it to a whole other level that it didn't have to go to.

Amen!</font>

[stage_director]

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That must be your excuse for everything you've gotten wrong so far. It's your reading comprehension which is off, yet you accuse us because of your poor reading skills.

And, it is not SC's fault that people take what is taught and written in God's word the wrong way. That is on them and not the Chapel.
END QUOTE

Nice try, Ter ... even if I mixed you up with someone else ... the things I've said about Shep Chap are accurate.

[smyrna]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

"Ter wrote and Stage_Defecator quoted:

That must be your excuse for everything you've gotten wrong so far. It's your reading comprehension which is off, yet you accuse us because of your poor reading skills.

And, it is not SC's fault that people take what is taught and written in God's word the wrong way. That is on them and not the Chapel."

That's the ONLY thing accurate in S_D's post!

[stage_director]

Well, barluveng ... while I'd have been a tad more impressed with your post if you'd recognized the need to address the style and tactics of some of the Shep Chap'lers, too ... that doesn't erase the fact that the name calling around here is way out of hand and makes everybody look bad, no matter which side they're on.

[smyrna]

barluveng,

I'm sure you are flattered that Stage Director was impressed with your comments. I'm sure you don't feel any loss about the "tad more" she could have been impressed.

Maybe she's impressed because you, like the rest of the SC students, can spot truth so easy.

[aviyah]

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"I'm afraid I'd have to like you a whole lot better to describe what I'm wearing to you, puddin' ..." (Rage Director, 05/27/07)
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PLEASE SPARE ALL OF FACTNET THE GRIZZLY DETAILS!

[stage_director]

lol Maybe your buddy Smyrna shouldn't bring up what I'm wearing ... hey? ;-)

[smyrna]

lol Maybe your buddy Smyrna shouldn't bring up what I'm wearing ... hey?

Smynra: I do a lot of things I shouldn't do, but I'll be happy to bring up what Stage_Defecator is wearing:

Egg on her face.

Hip waders to get through all the BS she's expectorating.

A pair of Godchild's sacred Mormon underwear she got from Vivian's ex.

A strait jacket, given to her as a gift from members of her family.

Horse blinders.

A foot long nose warmer.

Very dark eye glass lenses. (I Cor. 13:12)

[aviyah]

That takes the cake! Thanks for the laughs Smyrna. Good night.

God Bless, AviYAH

[barluveng]

Stage_director

is it right for any of us to resort to name calling NO do we all lose our heads for time to time YES. It happends but that was not the point of my post my point is that this is a Christian Forum and to call someone no matter who it is a B***H is about as low as someone can get. that is on a whole different level then calling someone and idiot or stupid ect...... And the whole reason i did not address all the name calling that goes on here is because what gc said and what others say on here say can't even be compared to one another. My post was for Ms. Hadden i was calling her out on her horrible behavior and i feel she owes Terluvire an appology.

[abiyah]

<font color="0000ff"><font size="+1"><font face="times new roman,times,roman">


http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/triangle_right.gifOne last thought, if I may. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/new.gifThe moderators here at FACTnet Message Board should strongly consider banning this woman who goes by the user name godchild, for this certainly is NOT the first time she has been verbally abusive, bitter, and enraged in her posts towards their frequent posters. I'd think this 'would' be 'UNACCEPTABLE' behavior in a forum such as this which seemingly holds to far better standards. Their consideration to this would be most appreciated.

Sincerely,

Abiyah</font></font></font>

[skooter942000]

...and we now see the REAL (Vivian/godchild)
_(for who she really is)_




- What an impostor.


'i' have said it once ,(or twice),
anyone can claim to be anything. (in this day and age)

A follower of CHRIST , (Does just that),
they FOLLOW HIS WAYS...

( ...not satan's ways)




satan's Traits

he is the false accuser
he is the liar
his fruit is tainted
he hates CHRISTIANS

- These works do not come from (GOD).
(these traits, are not the TRAITS of a CHRISTIAN)






http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/blush.gif



_Agape_ to the Brethren , ('in' the LORD).