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godchild
03-24-2007, 03:07 PM
1. Cultbusters au
2. Carm
for a start. Anyone want to add to the list. If you go to these sites, you'll see they don't allow nasty, rude, and obnoxious posters for very long. Oh, I forgot to add even the sc's very own 'seasons'. Now that's getting pretty bad, isn't it?
What's that saying? "Shape up or ship out". http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif
smyrna
03-24-2007, 04:09 PM
When I have a little more time, I will outline the posts where Godchild has been anything but cordial and amiable.(not to mention out and out lies, and other deceptions) Not because I myself have not been guilty of some very harsh posts, which I do not regret due to context, but to illustrate that Godchild is a hypocrite.
Furthermore, once again Godchild uses the cheap tactic of labeling ALL SC people rude and nasty.
Let's superimpose her "logic" on the rest os Christianity:
If a few Methodists inhabit a discussion board, and are rude and nasty, then according to Godchild, ALL Methodists must be rude and nasty.
Now, here is the reason (so help me God) many of us SC folks got thrown off the carm.org boards in '96:
We got into a dicsusion about the flood. A faction of Fundmentalists clung to the puerile Sunday school mythology of a man who went on a world wide safari, or had some magic whistle, to obtain all the animals that existed at the time. Then he built a boat, all by himself, that was large enough to hold them all etc...
Soon, the SC folks made the Fundys so silly looking, the always fair Matt Slick and some other guy, I think his name was White, threw all the SC folks off the board.
Yes, there was some mudslinging and name calling on BOTH SIDES. Yet, only the SC folks got thrown off. And that fact shows there was more to the story behind why we got thrown off, and also points to the real reasons why this occurs on other Fundy oriented boards.
(Message edited by smyrna on March 24, 2007)
godchild
03-25-2007, 08:16 PM
smyrna seems to think no one but his sorry self can go read my previous posts. Get a life, smearna.
godchild
03-25-2007, 08:19 PM
I suggest he get off his lazy butt and "work on his own failed, boring website". It just makes it look like he's extremely jealous and frustrated by his inability to create a successful website (or page). When did he start saying he needed to update his site, and how many times has he said it? What a joke he is!
skooter942000
03-25-2007, 11:22 PM
GC
Ah, the words of a CHRISTIAN?
- Kidding.
This place was more alive ,(When it was DEAD),
than having you return to post.
VIVIAN,
CB is that_'a'_way === >
'i' mean that_'a'_way
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smyrna
03-26-2007, 02:11 AM
Godchild wrote:
"smyrna seems to think no one but his sorry self can go read my previous posts. Get a life, smearna"
True enough. But my sorry self and my sorry, nasty and rude SC comrades are going to have fun making it easy for the readers, and gather them all up, the ones that are clearly the most ridiculous.
What will we call this new thread? Godchild's Greatest Misses? The Bare-All Witch Project?
How about grouping Frankie's, Arron's and Godchild's examples of hypocrisy, lies, and just plain nonsense and call it:
The Facts And Follies of Cultblunders.
I really think if it was done right, we could even put it in book form, and sell it!
This same strategy worked for www.419eater.com (http://www.419eater.com)
The publishers of that site made good money by publishing stories about how they out scammed Internet con-artists.
This could be BIG!
By the way, nice try Godchild, but you will NEVER see my very successful website, it's a Catholic site anyway, and since you think that Catholics are evil or whatever, it would not interest you.
And don't try saying I'm just making that up, because I personally don't care whether you or anyone else here believes I have other websites or not.
And Godchild, one of the posts we will be looking for is the one where you said YOU were going to build a website! The fact is, you couldn't even build a screensaver!http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif
Skooter: Excellent post!
(Message edited by smyrna on March 25, 2007)
godchild
03-26-2007, 06:24 PM
I'm going to start skipping scooter's posts. He has few thoughts with any validity anyway, other than quoting long verses from the Bible, as if that is going to impress Christians who know those verses by heart or being so stubborn, proud, and arrogant that he continues to waste (even when he's been asked to stop) and likes to fill pages with blank space. He/she must think that's cute. It's not. This is an adult forum, scooter.
I seem to remember being called a liar when I posted a reference to smyrna's post where he said he teaches a catholic class. He denied saying it. Now, he's saying he has a catholic website. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif
Everyone knows his ego would have him bragging every few days about it. He hasn't. It would also have him telling the folks on the catholic threads. He doesn't. He's such a bad liar!
<font size="+1"><font color="ff0000">Seen any ufos lately, smearna? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif Has the catholic church made their announcement yet that "smyrna; peter cephas, blah, blah, blah convinced them of arnies 'serpent seed' doctrine? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/smile.gif</font></font>
angie0401
03-26-2007, 06:31 PM
scooter, Whatever gave you the idea I ever thought sc was equally yoked with Christianity?
See, skooter & smyrna, all they (most of the CBers - not including Munson) want us to do is deny Christ is our Savior and they will leave us alone. Frankie came right out and said that's what it would take for them to stop their lies and accusations. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Don't hold your breath, Vivian, we'll not EVER deny Christ is our Savior.
smyrna
03-26-2007, 06:46 PM
Hi Angie,
There goes Godchild ranting and raving again.
Godchild must really be a skeptic when it coems to UFO's she certainly brings it up often enough. But it is just another example of her lack of knowledge of certain subjects.
As far as the RCC is concerned, all I can say is that she shouldn't scoff at their approach to what happened in the Garden. Actually, the German Abbess (head of a convent) Hidlegard of Bingen wrote about a literal rape of Eve in her writings.
The Serpent's Seed teaching HAS been discussed among Catholic theologians, and in one case besides my own personal covnersations with the monks, there is one monastic community that published their discussion of the subject on their website.
Unfortunately, they sided with modern "higher critics" who write off the entire Genesis allegory as pure myth, and not reflective of real events.
Of course, this will excite Godchild, who denies satan exists, and thinks he was a literary device, because she agreed with "illogical_al" on the Let's Talk About Satan thread at cultbusters.com.au
However, they are the first to tell you they are NOT theologians, it was a casual conversation in their own community, and NOT in any way a declaration by the Magisterium (teaching authority) of the Church itself.
godchild
03-27-2007, 03:21 AM
The only reference smearna ever uses is Hildegard of Bingen. Big deal. Does he think she was a prophetess? am said 1981 was the year the Lord was coming again. They still think he is a prophet. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif
Still waiting for bragger smearna to tell us how to read his 'catholic' website. Aint gonna happen, ha-ha. Mr. hot-air pops again.
I'll bet it's difficult for ang to go to a baptist church where her preacher doesn't believe in the ss false doctrine. I wonder....Does she call him a liar under her breath? Does she go to be a tool for satan, to spread am/sc lies. The Bible tells us 'antichrist will come from "within"', and there are many antichrists.
angie0401
03-27-2007, 06:50 AM
I'll bet it's difficult for ang to go to a baptist church where her preacher doesn't believe in the ss false doctrine. I wonder....Does she call him a liar under her breath? Does she go to be a tool for satan, to spread am/sc lies. The Bible tells us 'antichrist will come from "within"', and there are many antichrists.
No, it's not at all difficult. I love my preacher and believe him to be called by God to preach. He is wonderful and I do believe he preaches the Word of God. I agree with the vast majority of what he preaches, but no one has a corner on all of the truth - am I required to believe EVERYTHING a pastor teaches in order to attend his church? Isn't that the sign of a cult???
See, unlike those who are weak in their "faith", my pastor (and our congregation) don't believe differences in doctrine make one a "heretic" or "blasphemer" or an "antichrist". He once told me that just because I was in the minority didn't make me wrong. You could learn a thing or two from him.
Why do you have such a problem with my attending a Baptist church? When I walked through the doors of that church, I knew I was home and that hasn't changed to this day. I go there to praise God, fellowship with other Christians and to serve God in whatever way He chooses to use me. Right now it is as a Sunday School teacher, other times it has been as a local "missionary", still other times it has been to help other Christians take a deeper look at what they have been taught. If the things they have been taught are truth - which they are for the most part - their faith is strengthened; if not, they have a chance to toss aside man's traditions for the truth.
Why is your faith so weak, Vivian, that you feel the need to attack those who (whether you like it or not) claim Christ as their Savior? Would you too like us to deny Christ is our Savior? Is that the fruit of the Spirit? Or is that the fruit of someone who is so unhappy with their life that they want to drag everyone down with them.
I forgive you, Vivian, for the things you have said and done to try and cause harm to others. However, I pray that God deal with you swiftly in whatever manner He chooses.
smyrna
03-27-2007, 11:51 AM
Godchild wrote: "Still waiting for bragger smearna to tell us how to read his 'catholic' website."
Godchild you can keep waiting, because you will never know the URL for that site. That would be like installing Osama Bin Laden as President of the United States.
Does anyone have to work at imagining Godchild infiltraing the forum there, wagging her accusing finger at me and telling all there about how I am a member of a cult and all her other silly accusations?
You can keep dreaming about getting onto that site, because that's as close as you will ever get.
smyrna
03-27-2007, 12:00 PM
Now as for Hildegard,
I used Hildegard as a reference, and if Godchild wishes to minimize Hildegard's writings to try and bolster her own weak arguments, she is certainly entitled to do that.
The problem is, Godchild is a clueless heckler, whose fellow CBers have abandoned this forum, because they were throughly discredited here, using thier own words they have been subdued.
Oh yes, if they read this or if Godchild goes whining off to them and telling them I said this, they'll probably come back and deny it, but the point is that they have gone where they can accuse and accuse falsely without anyone challenging them to prove their allegations.
The coward's club which is Cultbusters is a gathering place for rumor mongering malcontents, a closed cult of intolerant, ignorant holy roller snobs, and luckily is little read or regarded.
franklin
03-27-2007, 12:38 PM
Only coward here is you smearnoff. Constantly calling names instead of discussing doctrine which you repeatedly lose at. Your beliefs are so assinine no one on factnet could ever take Shepherds Chapel and the serpent seed heresy as anything but as a cult of heresy. Truth is you are all bunch of closet Nazis and Murray is your fuhrer. Drop all of the name calling and vicious cyberbullying and then maybe just maybe someone would converse with you.
david_munson
03-27-2007, 03:22 PM
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Angie,
thank you for recognising that I would never ask anyone to deny Christ.
That is the last thing I would ever do.
I want people to know Christ and the nature of His person.
That is my strongest desire as a believer.
That is my heart towards all peoples.
Thank you again.
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david_munson
03-27-2007, 03:23 PM
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Angie,
thank you for recognising that I would never ask anyone to deny Christ.
That is the last thing I would ever do.
I want people to know Christ and the nature of His person.
That is my strongest desire as a believer.
That is my heart towards all peoples.
Thank you again.
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rachelengland
03-27-2007, 04:12 PM
"I forgive you, Vivian, for the things you have said and done to try and cause harm to others. However, I pray that God deal with you swiftly in whatever manner He chooses"
Godchild this was a quote directed to you on factnet today by a SC student and I wanted to say the God I know is good and I pray His blessings on your life. I hate it when people can't get along with one another and then they use scripture or God's vengance to try and show how lofty and pious they are...It seems a never ending cycle...R
smyrna
03-27-2007, 06:03 PM
The CB'ers are very predictable. I KNEW they would flock to post here once I commented that they have been defeated. Frankie's post is yet another example of their convoluted views:
Frankie:
"Only coward here is you smearnoff. Constantly calling names instead of discussing doctrine
which you repeatedly lose at."
Smyrna: There is NO evidence whatseover that I ever dodged a challenge or confrontation here, unlike Frankie,(and Godchild) who, when he gets cornered, flees for the comfort of his own little cyber-space station. But making accusations they cannot prove is part and parcel to their modus.
In addition, though we have FILLED these threads with doctrinal discussions, the CB detractors seem to have trouble acknowledging this.
Frankie on one hand say we don't discuss doctrine, then says we do but lose. Which is it? You can't have both.
As for losing, once again we see Franklin's mentality, in which places himself in a win or lose situation, rather than merely an effort to find truth in Scriputre.
This is NOT about anyone winning or losing, but Frankie can't ever seem to get out of his game playing mentality.
This guy celebrates page views on his spaceman game threads at Cultbusters, and thinks this is somehow winning at something.
All it really is is a thinly veiled rumor mill, and gossip column written by a bunch of game players.
abiyah
03-27-2007, 06:18 PM
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Rachelengland WROTE:
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Quote: " Godchild this was a quote directed to you on factnet today by a SC student and I wanted to say the God I know is good and I pray His blessings on your life.... R " END QUOTE
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II John 1:9
" Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth NOT in The Doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in The Doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and The Son. "
II John 1:10 - 11
" If there come any unto you, and bring NOT THIS Doctrine, receive him not into your house, NEITHER BID him GOD SPEED; FOR he THAT BIDDETH him GOD SPEED IS PARTAKER OF his EVIL DEEDS. "
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abiyah
03-27-2007, 06:43 PM
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godchild WROTE:
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QUOTE: " 1. Cultbusters au
2. Carm
for a start. Anyone want to add to the list. If you go to these sites, you'll see they don't allow nasty, rude, and obnoxious posters for very long. Oh, I forgot to add even the sc's very own 'seasons'. Now that's getting pretty bad, isn't it? " END QUOTE
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Vivian;
May I ask you ? What is this all about Mam ? I myself have never been "banned" from any CHristian website/forum, and I can assure you that I have not been banned from either of the websites in which you have mentioned in your above stated quote, and INDEED i am one who does Study The WORD of The LORD along with The Shepherd's Chapel... yet I would NOT define us as "students" of The Shepherd's Chapel but rather students of The Lord Jesus Christ, for He is The Good Shepherd.... He Leads, we follow.
I do wonder what your intentions are for this thread, I perceive and discern that they are NOT done with The LOVE which is in Christ our Lord. Therefore... may I remind you Vivian.</font><font color="ff0000"><font face="times new roman,times,roman"><font size="+1">
John 15:10
" If ye keep My Commandments, ye shall abide in My Love; even as I have kept My Father's Commandments, and abide in His Love. "
John 15:11
" These things have I spoken unto you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. "
John 15:12
" This is My Commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. "</font></font></font><font color="0000ff"><font face="times new roman,times,roman"></font>
Now look.... Was this above thread entitled
" Shepherd's Chapel students banned at many CHRISTIAN BOARDS "... done with love Vivian ? Or was it done to 'try' or 'attempt' to hurt the credibility of those that Study God's Word along with The Shepherd's Chapel ? Think about it... we are ALL one IN Jesus Christ The Lord... so why do you 'continue' to treat us as an enemy ? Think about what you are doing, for indeed The LORD our God is 'watching' your works and the intentions thereof.
Abiyah</font>
skooter942000
03-27-2007, 07:08 PM
Vivian posts to get a rise out of us.
Then when she can't , (The LIES BEGIN).
- or more to the POINT , (CONTINUE).
'Her' intentions are quite OBVIOUS.
She is trying to deceive us,
take us out of CHRIST'S HAND.
There are scriptures that show ,
- (That's not Possible).
Being the schhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.giflar she it,
(She can find them herself).
A Good Tree, (Does not Produce ROTTEN FRUIT).
There are many Rotten TREES ,(that post here).
Mar 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee,
cut it off: it is better for thee to enter
into life maimed, than having two hands to go
into hell, into the fire that never shall be
quenched:
Mar 9:44 Where their worm dieth not,
and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee,
cut it off: it is better for thee to enter
halt into life, than having two feet to be
cast into hell, into the fire that never
shall be quenched:
Mar 9:46 Where their worm dieth not,
and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee,
pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter
into the kingdom of God with one eye,
than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Mar 9:48 Where their worm dieth not,
and the fire is not quenched.
Mar 9:49 ¶ For every one shall be salted with
fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with
salt.
- Cut/Cut - (off)
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif
"ALMIGHTY GOD" shall not forget the works you 'do',
- (Supposedly "in HIS NAME").
See Matt 25
You CB-ERS lack fuel for your lamps.
No fuel = no light
- AND "CHRIST IS THE LIGHT"
...get it?
angie0401
03-27-2007, 07:22 PM
"I forgive you, Vivian, for the things you have said and done to try and cause harm to others. However, I pray that God deal with you swiftly in whatever manner He chooses"
Godchild this was a quote directed to you on factnet today by a SC student and I wanted to say the God I know is good and I pray His blessings on your life. I hate it when people can't get along with one another and then they use scripture or God's vengance to try and show how lofty and pious they are...It seems a never ending cycle...R
Rachel,
I prayed the same thing for myself - that God deal with me swiftly in whatever manner He chooses. It had nothing to do with God's vengeance - is that the only way you think God deals with people? IOW, He blesses me where I am doing correctly and corrects me where I am not.
I have no problem with God's correction because He loves me and only corrects me to keep me on the straight and narrow path. At revival last night, the preacher talked about the dangers of drifting away from God. I desire a closer relationship with God and pray that I don't drift; if you think that makes me "lofty and pious", you need to examine your heart towards those outside of your cult and see if YOUR intentions are pure...
abi is right - I'll not wish Vivian Godspeed in her activities all over the internet. As of this moment, she spreads discord and strife and that is NOT something I seek to partake in. I will continue to pray for her the same thing I pray for myself - God's correction.
terluvire
03-27-2007, 07:36 PM
<font color="0000ff">Angie said:
I have no problem with God's correction because He loves me and only corrects me to keep me on the straight and narrow path. At revival last night, the preacher talked about the dangers of drifting away from God. I desire a closer relationship with God and pray that I don't drift; if you think that makes me "lofty and pious", you need to examine your heart towards those outside of your cult and see if YOUR intentions are pure...
Amen Angie, I also pray that the Lord corrects me if I need it. God corrects those he loves:</font>
Job 5:17 Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:
Pro 3:12 For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
rachelengland
03-27-2007, 08:10 PM
Actually angie, I think of God as a good God, as I stated above-many times throughout different forums on factnet, I have read ideas about how people perceive God to be at their disposal as though He is some sort of magical entity.
I know The steadfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases-His mercies NEVER come to end , they are new every morning-He is faithful. It is rare I use verses when writing here because I have also seen people try to use verses in order to get an upperhand and that isn't what the Bible is for-it's for inspiration not for mind games. And you are correct when we drift from the Lord, we open ourselves up for all kinds of trouble-I can attest to that...
Angie, have you ever shared with your minister your beliefs concerning the Serpent Seed doctrine...just wondering - maybe that would set people straight a bit if they think you aren't following a "christian" doctrine...R
(Message edited by rachelengland on March 27, 2007)
plow_deep
03-27-2007, 08:35 PM
"It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, <u>nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended</u>, or is made weak."
"Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth."
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
plow_deep
03-27-2007, 08:45 PM
<font color="0000ff">"maybe that would set people straight a bit if they think you aren't following a "christian" doctrine...R</font>"
"Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations."
"For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs."
"Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him."
rachelengland
03-27-2007, 09:23 PM
Very correct-we must watch what we say concerning other people's salvation. I just read a thought from the poster who calls himself Don. He seems to have a lot of issues with seeing people who don't agree with HIM get their due.
Your "Silence", - shows much (here).
- So be it David.
A movie may be used to GAIN (Others) to CHRIST.
To open a door (to certain FACTS).
Trying to place that GROUP, into the same category ,
- (Is a very LARGE mistake).
They Push people away from CHRIST.
(In actuality). (...Though Ignorance and HATE).
- And they shall answer for it.
Just because someone challenges your beliefs -doesn't mean God's vengence will be upon them Don. I have read many different postings here lately in which people have labeled SC a cult not just the cultbusters group. If you feel you are legitimate why let that bother you. Why all this "God is gonna take care of them" and "we are the blessed ones". Seems it is wrong for the detractors to question you but okay for many of you to judge others...It really does go both ways here and it will continue on that path...
(Message edited by rachelengland on March 27, 2007)
plow_deep
03-27-2007, 09:58 PM
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif
Actually, I was defending Angie.
<font color="119911">Angie, have you ever shared with your minister your beliefs concerning the Serpent Seed doctrine...just wondering - maybe that would set people straight a bit if they think you aren't following a "christian" doctrine...R"</font>
Why should she cause disputes or division in a Church she attends?
To be praised by men?
<font color="0000ff">"But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,"</font>
<font color="0000ff">"And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,"</font>
rachelengland
03-27-2007, 10:09 PM
Yes, I understood very well you were defending her-and that's okay- but you've only been cruel to the women who disagree with you(I couldn't believe what you wrote to godchild on another SC thread it was one of the most heartbreaking things I had ever read)..no one should ever tell angie she isn't a christian, believe me I do not agree in such things- unless a person is evil and full of hate towards fellow man because evil and Christ don't mix. I do wonder if these students find that those who disagree with them aren't christians?
I just wondered if she has ever opened up to her minister about her beliefs and if he was okay with them-why would it cause division?
(Message edited by rachelengland on March 27, 2007)
plow_deep
03-27-2007, 10:50 PM
Poor Rachel,
You just dont get it.
Not everyone will see everything eye to eye on what is revealed to them in the word of God.
Some see some thing clearly where others wont and vice-versa. There is quite a bit that Angie see's that I dont and I think there might be things that I might see that she doesnt see.
Not everyone will agree on everything because nobody has a corner on all the truth.
I know you think I'm supposed to pick a side on every issue or doctrinal disagreement.
Us or them! Us or them! Pick a side! Pick a side!
Okay, I choose to believe in Jesus Christ.
I refuse to allow anyones beliefs become a stumblingblock for me.
You can cry up a storm at that cruel crap, I'm sure you'll find sympathy from like-minded kind.
I recall a thread where you were exposed for being Jimito and when you were caught in your lies you then said you hated God. Of course you came back and posted awwww you didnt really mean it.
I guess you only curse God when you caught in deception and lies. Other than that he's pretty much okay huh?
It should be obvious I'm not really worried at what you think or even what your beliefs are...they change with the wind.
You do what your best at, which is to point fingers and accuse.
I feel sorry for you and hope you find peace someday.
May Jesus bless you
rachelengland
03-27-2007, 11:00 PM
No I love Christ very much- he has saved me from pain time and time again in these last few years- though I have caused him much..there is nothing poor about me nor do my beliefs change with the wind and your pity isn't needed..you are the one judging me and you can say all the cruel things but it matters nothing to me what you say-there is NO condemnation in Christ.Yet, by your fruits and the hatred you show towards others-you have revealed who you really are..not a peacemaker but a divider.
Funny you should remember I said I hated God but you took it out of context better go and look at that thread you've saved to use against me( satan loves to use people's past)- I hated God(at one time) for what I thought was allowing my mother to die at 49 from a cruel and heartless death when she loved Him and trusted him with everything she had to heal her and for taking my precious father 2 years ago at 60 -but I understand now that he loved them and allowed what happened because he has a purpose in all things..
You say may Jesus Bless you but you don't mean it- I wasn't even speaking with you actually-my question was posed to angie I just wondered if she ever shared her beliefs with her minister..
(Message edited by rachelengland on March 27, 2007)
plow_deep
03-27-2007, 11:17 PM
Rachel,
You said you hated God.
I dont remember in what context you said it but I remember you saying it.
I'm in no way judging you for it but after reading it, it will always come to mind when I see you post.
They should unlock that thread so I can review it.
When I say may Jesus bless you, how can you know wether I mean it or not? The same goes for when you say you hate God.
Only Jesus can read whats in the hearts of men.
You've said. "I hate God".
I've said, "May Jesus bless you"
Only God knows if we mean it.
rachelengland
03-27-2007, 11:25 PM
anyway..angie I was wondering if you have ever shared with your minister your beliefs. I have many churches in my area I would love to attend( I do not attend one at this time) because the worship is awesome and they have some neat groups but I think biblically we would find it hard to come to a common ground(why do most of the charasmatic churches have such powerful worship teams)-do you ever find this or do you just over look it-I mean even the baptist and pentacostals can hardly agree...R
(Message edited by rachelengland on March 27, 2007)
plow_deep
03-27-2007, 11:32 PM
Rachel,
Have you ever read Romans 14?
Try to think of the "meat and veggies" as "spiritual meat and veggies".
Then may you'll understand the point I"m making.
godchild
03-27-2007, 11:38 PM
My goodness, Hasn't this been a busy day.
abi, I didn't have you in mind. I haven't had you in mind for a long time.
Did you all have serving the Lord with love in mind when you had so much fun responding to the threads smearna started against Christians and cultbusters? I really doubt it. How does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot, hypocrits?
You see, you all ran back here when I mentioned one or two names. I'm sure one sees it and quickly sends for the troops. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/angry.gifsmearna doesn't mention that or that you all had no more 'run away from here' than we did. He is such a jerk. Spring is a busy time in most people's lives. He has nothing better to do, obviously. Most of the time these days I'm pulling his and his twin scooter's chain. They swallow it up, don't they? Then the rest come along and do the same thing.
Some of you sure jump when someone posts the stupidity that goes on at the fig tree, even to the point of insulting them (you) by saying their 'opinions aren't as valid as the scer's here', yet most of the people here are posting there. Don't you get it. smearna is insulting you all and no one sees it. That's hilarious!
Thanks for the heads up, rachel. My life has never been better. There's a community church just up the road so I'm going to go meet some Christians there. My daughter is going with me. It's so great living close to my children and grandchildren again. We have our weekly suppers together, and it's a lot of fun and fellowship. I've been busy also taking care of my chicks and planting flowers and fruit trees. Sunday I'm going to ride my younger daughter's horse. God has blessed me greatly! Not because I deserve it, but He loves me and I love Him.
rachelengland
03-27-2007, 11:43 PM
Godchild that is awesome-I don't really have any family so please cherish them and spend time with them..God Bless you godchild!
godchild
03-28-2007, 12:17 AM
Thanks rachel, I'll email you some photos later. God bless you too. You have family; your friends here and wherever you are.
smyrna
03-28-2007, 02:18 AM
I'd like to see just ONE post where any SC person from here insulted anyone from Figtree.
Let's see one, Godchild, or maybe we'll just add that accusation to the many others that are false and unproven.
And you can't buy me off with your excuse you were "too busy" to post here, because until you really were too busy, you had plenty of time to post at CB.
Furthermore, unless Franklin was helping you move, he hasn't shown up here either,(until today) because he knows he will face the same questions he still refuses to answer or even acknowledge, because he knows it will show how cowardly he is.
As for you, it won't take too long to compile a list of accusations you have made but have NEVER offered any proof for.
Of course, you will ignore them. But others will once again see how dishonest you are. Ignoring posts that challenge you is just as cowardly as leaving the board, so "too busy" isn't really cutting it as an excuse.
skooter942000
03-28-2007, 03:10 AM
From GC
Most of the time these days I'm pulling his and his twin scooter's chain.
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GC ,
- the only CHAIN you're pulling,
- is the one around your own NECK.
Tightening it
[&]
Tightening it
Pro 6:12 ¶ A naughty person, a wicked man,
walketh with a froward mouth.
Pro 6:13 He winketh with his eyes,
he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth
with his fingers;
Pro 6:14 Frowardness [is] in his heart,
he deviseth mischief continually;
he soweth discord.
Pro 6:15 Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly;
suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.
Your own words , (Shall haunt you/hurt you).
- (they do even now)
We are in CHRIST'S HAND.
-Yet you say we are not?
I'll take CHRIST'S WORDS,
- (over yours).
Feet running to do mischief, (is not a good work).
- You stepped in it yet again.
- So enjoy your rewards.
- (At least your honest here)
YAH is EL
EL is YAH
Psa 17:8 Keep me as the apple of the eye,
- hide me under the shadow of thy wings,
And Rachel,
(i have not the inclination to post to you).
- Push someone Else's buttons. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif
- You used to HATE GOD?
- Simply amazing ,
- (i hope this has all been worked out).
- The fruit you continually share, makes me wonder though.
Don <*))><
angie0401
03-28-2007, 05:54 AM
anyway..angie I was wondering if you have ever shared with your minister your beliefs. I have many churches in my area I would love to attend( I do not attend one at this time) because the worship is awesome and they have some neat groups but I think biblically we would find it hard to come to a common ground(why do most of the charasmatic churches have such powerful worship teams)-do you ever find this or do you just over look it-I mean even the baptist and pentacostals can hardly agree...R
Sorry it took me so long to answer, but I think I already mentioned that we are having a revival this week.
Rachel - when you find a church where everyone agrees on everything, let me know because you will probably find out that it is a cult. I do wonder why you are so interested in my spiritual life.. IF I thought it were a genuine interest rather than a "dig", I might be inclined to answer you. However, I think plow deep expressed it very well and I'll have to concur with him:
Some see some thing clearly where others wont and vice-versa. There is quite a bit that Angie see's that I dont and I think there might be things that I might see that she doesnt see.
Not everyone will agree on everything because nobody has a corner on all the truth.
Thanks, plow, I couldn't have said it better. Great to see you again - drop us an email, ok?
david_munson
03-28-2007, 03:31 PM
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Angie stated,
"Not everyone will agree on everything because nobody has a corner on all the truth."
I am in "total" agreement with her on this point.
It is something we must all keep in our minds when in discourse with one another.
I freely admit that I don't know all there is.
I have worked out several errors in my understanding already.
One I posted just recently.
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smyrna
03-28-2007, 03:55 PM
I have explained the serpent seed doctrine to many Christian people of the larger denominations, and I can tell you many become very interested in it, which would naturally be the first step towards adopting it into their own beliefs.
It is much easier presenting the SS teaching face to face, in a live setting where people can ask questions and are much less likely to openly scoff or go on rants like the CB detractors always do.
They may ask the same questions, like how to reconcile Genesis 4:1 and so forth, and in my experience they begin to get interested especially when I explain the meanings of Hebrew words, show them the appendixes from the Companion Bible, and definitely are very intrigued when I also tell them about the connection between what happened in the Garden and later on the activity of the fallen angels.
Not surprisingly to me, the Catholic friends I have, including clerics,share what I have to say with great interest, for they realize that God reveals information to clarfy the Biblical teachings as they apply to each and every era and time and culture, for God's Word is the LIVING Word, and does not stagnate and thus become irrelevant or archaic, but is meant to be for all people of all times and places.
This is also why the Catholic Church, whether many admit it or not, remains a source for moral and doctrinal guidance for ALL Christianity.
For instance,when we have other Churches consider ordaining gay priests or allowing openly gay bishops, then any Christian should be thankful that the RCC stand very firm in denouncing such actions.
It is a well known fact that the leader of the Anglican Church consulted John Paul II on this very issue, which is a testimony to this issue.
Therefore, unlike wayward and apostasizing, morally deterioriating theologies such as CBers denying satan's existence, the RCC maintains its doctrines consistantly and remains firm in her teachings, but also recognizes that God's Word does live and breathe in the hearts of its congregants, and can and will answer all of their questions.
rachelengland
03-28-2007, 04:08 PM
Dave, we are human my goodness who can agree on everything some have different ideas on dancing in the spirit, rapture and speaking in tongues-I attended one church most of my life and then after becoming disgusted with the faith only preaching-quietly left and haven't really been back to a church building since(not out of anger). So there are some doctrines I would not subject myself to anymore-the faith healing and many charsmatic(sp) churches in my area seem to be fixed on emotions and not really the meat of God's word-I have found peace and a better place at this time just studying on my own but fellowship and friendship is missed. R
godchild
03-28-2007, 04:55 PM
"I have explained the serpent seed doctrine to many Christian people of the larger denominations, and I can tell you many become very interested in it, which would naturally be the first step towards adopting it into their own beliefs."
Yeah, that's why you never hear of am/sc except in a negative way because everyone knows they're teaching false doctrine. Except for a few 'backwoods boys and girls', who don't know any better.
Joke for the day: am/sc is just growing by leaps and bounds. For frogs, maybe!! rolf! Gag me with a place setting!!
godchild
03-28-2007, 05:00 PM
rachel, Great insight for anyone with a heart and mind open to the Holy Spirit and God's will; not man's.
angie0401
03-28-2007, 05:53 PM
Rachel said:
we are human my goodness who can agree on everything
See, we can agree on something. Perhaps you can find someplace that you can fellowship with other Christians, since you seem to recognize that you aren't necessarily going to agree on everything.
The preacher last night said something pertinent to this:
"We aren't called to warm the pews, criticize the preacher, look down on your brethren or argue amongst ourselves. We are all called to ministry, whether it be international or local; preaching or serving; leading or working. We are called to be working for God." AMEN.
I don't agree 100% with everything my pastor (or any other pastor, for that matter) teaches, but you can learn different things from different preachers.
smyrna
03-28-2007, 06:42 PM
Godchild doesn't have any preachers to listen to. She is her own preacher. And as we have seen, she is anything but a knowledgeable or stable "preacher', because she has so far denied the Virgin birth, as well as the existence of satan and who wrote the Torah. Is there anything that she truly believes about Christianity?
She is so quick to call us un-Christian and say we follow false teachings, but what can be said about denying satan's existence, or who wrote the Torah, who casting doubt on the Virgin birth, or claiming that the book of Enoch is basically rubbish, even thoug it is greatly regarded and even part of the Canon of the Ethiopian Church?
abiyah
03-28-2007, 07:46 PM
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Ahhhh... so then was I in err to respond to this particular thread in which you have entitled
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godchild WROTE:
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for a start. Anyone want to add to the list. If you go to these sites, you'll see they don't allow nasty, rude, and obnoxious posters for very long. Oh, I forgot to add even the sc's very own 'seasons'. Now that's getting pretty bad, isn't it? ... END QUOTE "
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Now I wonder.... did you write the above here with regard to those that Study God's Word ALONG WITH The Shepherd's Chapel ? As you so call them ' SC students '. Is there not an "s" on students, that being plural.... more than one, for no names where mentioned, but rather a group. Right ? And are not these who you "had in mind" ? You know ? ... as a matter of fact... it really doesn't even matter, so no need to answer Viv. Hey.. I'm Thankful to The Lord that you did not have me in mind. " ) Nothing personal Ms. Hadden.
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godchild
03-28-2007, 10:47 PM
christen, You could help out here. Was danispeachy banned or did she quit? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif I think she quit, don't you? Thank God!!
Haven't you guys said there is "NO Membership" at sc. Where did they get the "12 million"? Wouldn't be a lie now, would it? Even if there are, that's not a whole lot of people, unless you count all the catholics smearna is convincing to change their long held beliefs, ha-ha-ha! That really is just too funny.
Don't you think it's nasty to say "such and such no longer exists", when one leaves the season. How hateful is that. Is that what am teaches about people who no longer follow him. That they are dead to you all?
Reine really should take that off danis' profile. Even deleting the whole thing would be more appropriate. Wouldn't you agree, dearie?
godchild
03-28-2007, 10:58 PM
christen, You could help out here. Was danispeachy banned or did she quit? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif I think she quit, don't you? Thank God!!
Haven't you guys said there is "NO Membership" at sc. Where did they get the "12 million"? Wouldn't be a lie now, would it? Even if there are, that's not a whole lot of people, unless you count all the catholics smearna is convincing to change their long held beliefs, ha-ha-ha! That really is just too funny.
Don't you think it's nasty to say "such and such no longer exists", when one leaves the season. How hateful is that. Is that what am teaches about people who no longer follow him. That they are dead to you all?
Reine really should take that off danis' profile. Even deleting the whole thing would be more appropriate. Wouldn't you agree, dearie?
smyrna
03-28-2007, 11:15 PM
Godchild wrote, (I guess her client stood her up)
"Haven't you guys said there is "NO Membership" at sc. Where did they get the "12 million"?
Godchild once again is letting her hatred and zeal cloud her logic. Perhaps she may wish to know the TV coverage is what is referred to by the 12 million, and it is TRUE that SC has no membership roster. SC reaches an estimated 12 million households, which actually translates into more than 12 million people.
And who cares if Danispeachy left The Season, quit listening to PM or not. That is an individual's decision, and it means nothing, as many people leave many Churches, and that does not automatically mean the Church is at fault.
More silliness and stupidity from someone whom we can expect more from.
skooter942000
03-28-2007, 11:46 PM
Hiss Hiss
stop it GC
You, (Like the SONG), have too much time on your hands.
Would you accuse a CLOCK,
- (For keeping the WRONG TIME)
Gee - 'i' wonder
- Don't your chicks need (FEED), or some-thin?
Chirp/Chirp http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif
david_munson
03-31-2007, 03:45 PM
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I hear you there Rachel.
I am not attending any specific church at this moment but still need to have fellowship with other believers.As do we all.
I find the church in many places.Most times a building is not involved because it is people that are the building and not any structure that we might name as a church.
There are many teachers that I listen to on different days.
Somethings I agree with and what I don't I set aside.
(eat the chicken through away the bones)
We have a long journey and for those of us in the United States ,it is going to get seriously dangerous.
I have seen some things that are coming to America.
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smyrna
03-31-2007, 08:41 PM
Dave,
"We have a long journey and for those of us in the United States ,it is going to get seriously dangerous.
I have seen some things that are coming to America."
Besides Hillary possibly becoming President, what else could be considered dangerous for the U.S?
I assume these are just your observations. You don't want Godchild running around pointing a finger at you, claiming you said you were a prophet!
david_munson
04-02-2007, 04:15 PM
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I really don't care what anyone thinks or states about me.Only what the Lord's thoughts towards me are.
I have been given prophecy and have never missed a beat yet because I don't run around like so many others claiming God said this or that all the time just to please peoples ears or try to be popular.
Yeah,
America is in trouble and may be at the point of no return.
More on this at the proper time.
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I have a question about Arnold Murray, I have herd his teaching on TV and I have to say I like how he lays it on the line although there are some things I dont agree with and other teachings he has taught that IM just not sure about and one is I believe that he does not believe in the so called "Rapture" or what ever you want to call it.
this is something that IM still studying and trying to figure out and from what I have herd him say is that " he does not believe in the Rapture" which if fine but my question is, How does he interpet the Scripture that talks about "being caught up in the twinkle of an eye"???
anybody Know????
smyrna
07-01-2007, 03:35 AM
Hello Dean,
First of all, you misquote I Corinthians 15. It doesn't say anything about being "caught up".
Read closely:
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump"
...
This is not speaking of a rapture of the flesh body, or that only the "righteous" will be changed.
ALL will be changed, and this speaks of the resurrection at the last trump, the seventh, and those who are still alive will be instantly changed, not raptured away to escape some evil dictator(antichrist) chasing them with a tatoo needle.
It speaks of the change from the flesh to the spiritual body, and also does not mean sent to immediate judgment. Because then there would be no reason for a future Judgement Day after the millenium.
I hope this helps.
The Rapture doctrine has three primary forms, which is one rweason why it can't be taken seriously: A-millenial, pre-millenial. and post-millenial.
The Rapture people can't even agree on which Rapture traching to believe, and the debate between the SC students and the critics that inhabit this forum have gone over it over and over.
Check out the threads here for more info, and you can make your own decision as to who is correct.
godchild
07-01-2007, 06:08 PM
dean, am keeps telling these poor people this: "not raptured away to escape some evil dictator(antichrist) chasing them with a tatoo needle," is being taught or believed by those who believe in the rapture. His students (and I've seen where many of them say the exact same words over and over again) parrot him about this. I have not seen one person EVER say they believe (and I certainly don't) what am says we do. It's simply one of am's brainwashing tools, and a poor one for any sensible person. We aren't dealing with sensible people here, as you will see if you do study these posts or those at theseason, a website where most of them go to study and discuss am's teachings. Use org after season.
See 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, scriptures scers try to exclude from their bibles. Which reminds me, am wrote, copyrighted, and printed his own version of the bible, but neither he nor his students use it. They don't ever talk about it, even, like it never existed, even though we've shown them the copyright number and everything. Don't you find that suspicious? Its called the Shepherd's bible, but apparently am bought all of them back because I've been unable to come across one yet.
Exodus 23:16-19 shows that Christ serves as both an example and a guarantee of what WE CAN EXPECT to happen to us. The bible tells of His resurrection from the dead. We too will be resurrected, even those who are dead. Then He still walked the earth for a time, because over 500 saw Him. Here is the most important to prove (as an example of what will happen to us) the rapture: Mark 16:19 So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received UP INTO HEAVEN, and sat down at the right hand of God.
This cannot mean He simply rose up from the tomb. Heaven is not here on earth. Earth is called satan's. If people don't believe satan is here, they must be blind. This is NOT heaven. If that were so, why would God bring a NEW HEAVEN? See Revelation 21 which says (v.2):Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, <u>coming down out of heaven from God.................
scers have been blinded by am's false promises to them that they are specially chosen by God over other Christians, not because they are more righteous since their birth here, but in a previous life with God, meaning Jesus' crucifixion has nothing to do with them; they being decided on previous!</u>
As we pray for the mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, lets also pray for these people.
lutheratx
07-01-2007, 06:51 PM
1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
At the seventh trumph.
Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon <u>the great river Euphrates;</u> and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 16:13 <u>And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon</u>, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 16:15<font color="ff0000"> Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. </font>(really pay attention to 16vs15 rapture doctrine uses the I come as a thief in the night thing however here is Christ saying it again, why like a thief in the night because you were destracted by your rest in antichrist) 16:16 <u>And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.</u> 16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
Now look at the simularities in the trumphs and the vials. Pastor Murray teaches that the trumphs start the pooring of the vials. They are pretty simular huh? The simular parts are underlined and bold. I'm sure you can find even more simularities.
Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in <u>the great river Euphrates.</u> 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. 9:16 <u>And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.</u> 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; <u>and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. 9:18 By these three</u> was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
lutheratx
07-01-2007, 06:56 PM
Both events take place at the great river Euphrates;
Rev16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Links to 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon
What are these three called and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. 9:18 By these three
These are lies told by the one world system don't get confused becuase this group is saying it and satan is to, it shows the army of satan is saying the same thing. The men that are killed means that they don't take part in the first resurrection due to the lies they believe.
lutheratx
07-01-2007, 07:16 PM
I forgot to add one thing for a new student at Shepherd's Chapel about the tribulations. Luke 21 is talking about the tribulations and look what this verse says.
21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
God created the universe lets just say Jesus will have very good aim. He is not mad at those that follow him he is mad at those who try to decieve like the angels that sinned (2peter2 and Jude) and satan. As a matter of fact look at this verse.
Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
I believe this to be the angels that sinned, this is there last day of existance. I think that men will be spared in this war for the most part, there might be a few thousand but I'm thinking probally not. I'm not sure about that last statement but God judges before he ends ones life right, these angels are already judged just not by name like satan is.
godchild
07-01-2007, 09:52 PM
Show proof that "The One World System" (whatever the heck that is) tells lies about the bible. Once again, scers look for a boogey-man, created in the mind of am and accepted by these people. Where is it written or WHO (not some imaginary group) said any such thing!
How can you people just swallow this propoganda poison without asking the same questions? If you aren't brainwashed by am, then explain why?
We are aware am believes the international Jews (whatever that is) are running this imaginary 'world system' or 'new world order', that they are the kenites am preaches against. You have enemies only in your minds. Where is the proof, the evidence? am NEVER names names. He doesn't because he can't. Admit it. Open your eyes. The truth shall set you free.
godchild
07-01-2007, 09:57 PM
This is communist propoganda taught to am by kenneth goff and his cronies, the same men who signed am's ministerial license, under Soldiers of the Cross. Google any of these titles, and you will begin to see the truth. It is anti-Jew haters who are feeding you this bogus crap. Have the courage to search this out for yourself.
lutheratx
07-02-2007, 12:23 AM
I'll have you know I really didn't use a whole lot of my own words, but you are entitled to say maybe they don't link together. Or that the last trump doesn't mean the seventh or find something in translation that I have failed to see.
I wont believe it though, just being honest.
I studied the rapture both sides longer than anything else, but stumbling across other stuff made me realise God's entire bible must be studied. However the coming of Christ is pertinent to these days.
yaakov2
07-02-2007, 01:53 AM
lutheratx
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For future reference, it's good form to provide links or references when quoting someone else.
godchild
07-02-2007, 03:14 AM
luther, The return of Christ has always been pertinent. Remember to ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit and continue to study the bible. The Holy Spirit will teach you much more than any man ever could.
I would like to hear your own words, too. Not everyone is a scholar, anymore than everyone is an angel, though a lot of folks around here get that mixed up and think they are. (just joking).}
smyrna
07-03-2007, 05:27 AM
Vivian (GC worte):
"luther, The return of Christ has always been pertinent. Remember to ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit and continue to study the bible. The Holy Spirit will teach you much more than any man ever could.
I wonder if Godchild was "guided" to believe that satan doesn't exist. (I think that was CB's "illogical_al" not the Holy Spirit, that guided her on that one as well as the nonsense that Moses didn't author the Torah.)
I wonder who was guiding Godchild when she claimed that Joseph was Jesus' real father, because Mary called him that in the Gospels.
I wonder who was guiding Godchild when she called Terluvire a "cold bich" "mogrel" and other vile things.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif
Signed,
(using Godchild's names for me, which she was "guided" to))
"Little dung-pile, boring fool,(my favorite) old news", and much worse, I can assure you
godchild
07-03-2007, 02:13 PM
Wrong again, smyrna. I called ang a "cold bich", not ter. I called ter a terD, for "d" as in "dumb". What's a m o g r e l. Never called anyone that. ter called herself a mongrel, if that's what you mean. I think she hates that part of herself that is Jewish, else why would she call herself that. (Oh, maybe she really hates the part of herself that is white. Who knows, who cares.)
Never said Moses didn't author the Torah. Never said that Joseph was Jesus' "real" father. smyrna knows better, he's back playing his usual asinine self. Rave on.
No one "guided me" to say anything inappropriate to the scers but themselves. When people choose to come to a cult discussion board, try to overtake a discussion of the very cult they belong to and turn it into their own cultic school, they deserve just what these figgers got, which was a lesson they needed. The lesson is this; am/sc is unacceptable, unChristian, unorthodox (which smyrna will love, even though he's a diehard catholic, too), and unattractive as a viable religious group. The little smidgeons I've seen them as individuals post on other boards are usually ignored, which is really the best way to deal with them.
terluvire
07-03-2007, 05:31 PM
<font color="0000ff">ungodly child said:
Wrong again, smyrna. I called ang a "cold bich", not ter. I called ter a terD, for "d" as in "dumb". What's a m o g r e l. Never called anyone that. ter called herself a mongrel, if that's what you mean.
Let's see ungodly child:
Repost from gochild:
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terD, bite me, bich! (Spiritually speaking, of course. I'm speaking of you as some wild mongrel dog, of which the people of biblical times had absolutely no use for.
You see, you haven't learned anything from am either. You must be really slow-minded as well as slow every other way. Let's call it "development". You were kept at the 2 year old mentality, I see. zeke used to say am went through the whole bible in four years. That's a mighty long time, but then he's got to add all his neo-nazi crap, which takes a lot longer, doesn't it? I notice he's always got to look at his 'notes' before he says anything about the Greek or Hebrew definitions. He's as phoney as a 6 dollar bill. You mean he couldn't in all that time answer one of those questions for you? And worse, you say you have a bible, but you couldn't find the answers BY YOURSELF. You poor bich, no wonder you tag along behind these Jew-hating friends of yours who have really got you fooled, haven't they, ha-ha. They smirk behind your back, you know. They call you a 'wanta be a jew girl, so she says she THINKS she is one, cause her relative took a Jew name'. They really hate you for trying to one up them by blood. Don't you know they don't think you're a Jew at all, but a mamzer bich mongrel, which is pretty close but not quite.
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Oh terD, scooter said to tell you you're safe. Those giants don't want mongrel biches. They want white women. You're safe, honey! He said look at your pix at the fig tree, (boy, that's a real old one, isn't it?)and you aint no white girl; not the kind they want.
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You must be on the payroll now too. You're twice as bichy as you used to be. Really hateful.
I figured you out long ago. You think you've covered all your bases. You think God is a man you can waggle your tail at and get in the gate, and if that doesn't work, you'll say, "But my relative has a jewish name". You know, you pathetic bich, we Christians don't have that concern. It doesn't matter our color, our background, none of it. We trust in our risen Savior, Jesus Christ. We know He died for each and everyone of us, because He tells us so and we believe Him. We don't have to 'lie to get into heaven'. It aint gonna work anyway. But all the best to you, with your mentality, we can't blame you for trying; to fit in, that is.
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And which part of the family, terD? The jewish side or the eighth day adamic one. Maybe they would like to answer, ya think! (That's not a question, but an observation.) Just because you don't know your bible, don't take it out on others, mongrel, mamzer bich terD.
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terluvire
07-03-2007, 05:32 PM
Continued from above******
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If your son is there, mongrel mamzer bich terD, ask him how he likes being forced to go to a Christian private school by a mom who then deprograms him every day when he gets home. Is that the height of hypocrisy, or what, you sicko emotionally abusive bich, you! What is wrong with you? Is your sickness in your mind or your body? I'd rather have ms than your thought processes.
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You know, I hope I haven't hurt your feelings with my calling you a sick, emotionally abusive, mongrel mamzer bich, ter. But you see, I figure since you love am so much, and that's what he teaches you are, you must love being talked to this way.
By the way, don't choke on any bones tomorrow. It showed me how much your heart was really in the right place. Aren't you proud!
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terluvire
07-03-2007, 05:33 PM
<font color="0000ff">ungodly child said:
Wrong again, smyrna. I called ang a "cold bich", not ter. I called ter a terD, for "d" as in "dumb". What's a m o g r e l. Never called anyone that. ter called herself a mongrel, if that's what you mean.
You were the first one to say "mongrel". Don't you ever tell the truth? Is this how a Christian acts.... constantly lying? Is this how you let your light shine through?
Your hatred and lies are written all over these boards for all to see.
Here's your post ungodly child:</font>
godchild
Senior Member
Username: godchild
Post Number: 4264
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 205.215.248.160
Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 3:37 am:
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So ter, why don't you explain to us how you are a "part Jew" and a "real Jew". lol What are you, ter? One of those "mongrels am talks to you about"? Oh sorry. I guess you were talking about cats, weren't you. Cats can be mongrels too. ha-ha!
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smyrna
07-09-2007, 01:57 PM
Godchild wrote: "Never said Moses didn't author the Torah. Never said that Joseph was Jesus' "real" father. smyrna knows better, he's back playing his usual asinine self. Rave on."
True, Godchild didn't SAY that Moses did not write the Torah. She AGREED with "illogical_al" who posted an article that accepted the Documentary Hypothesis (which is what the claim is called)and also implied that the "liberal view" is the correct one. (See CB's Let's Talk About Satan thread for proof)
But she does lie when she said she didn't claim Joseph was Jesus's real father. It took her DAYS to find out why Mary referred to Joseph as Jesus's father! And until she did, she doubted the Virgin Birth!:
From the Cultblunders and Shepherd's Chapel thread:
godchild
Senior Member
Username: godchild
Post Number: 4121
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 205.215.249.113
Luke 2:41 (Speaking about Jesus) Now his ***PARENTS*** went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the Passover.
43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child, Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and His mother knew not of it.
46 And it came to pass, that after three days ***THEY*** found him in the temple,....
48 And when they saw Him, they were amazed, and His mother said unto Him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And He said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but His mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
***Joseph was called Jesus' father, even by Mary. I suppose this makes her a liar too?}***
Smyrna: There you have it! Godchild LYING once again!
stage_director
07-09-2007, 05:06 PM
What's the big deal, Smyrna? I imagine most of us know Joseph was the "step father" of Jesus and acted as a father to him. He even passed on a lineage to him. For all practical purposes he was the father of Jesus on this earth ...
smyrna
07-09-2007, 07:45 PM
You know, Stage Director, are you just acting stupid, or is it for real?
Since I'm such a nice guy, I'll show you the line from my post you must have "missed":
"But she does lie when she said she didn't claim Joseph was Jesus's real father. It took her DAYS to find out why Mary referred to Joseph as Jesus's father! And until she did, she doubted the Virgin Birth!"
Got it now? Godchild did NOT know why Mary referred to Joseph as jesus' father. Had she, she would not made this remark: "***Joseph was called Jesus' father, even by Mary. I suppose this makes her a liar too?}***
She also would not have highlighted the words PARENTS and THEY is she was not intentionally doubting the Virgin birth.
As I stated, it took her days, to give us the answer, and she was actively posting, and ignoring the fact we caught her openly doubting one of the most sacred beliefs in Christianity.
I'd say that is a big deal.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/biggrin.gif
On another matter, of course, you STILL have nothing to say about Godchild's vile behavior, since you must relish in the fact she says things like that.
(Message edited by smyrna on July 09, 2007)
stage_director
07-09-2007, 09:29 PM
I think maybe you took something she said and put your own spin on it, because I don't see all the things you claim she believes. Did GC say somewhere that Jesus wasn't of a virgin birth? Which brings us to another question ... Unless I misunderstood, GC doesn't believe in the Rapture either. Now, by the teachings of Arnold Murray, doesn't that make her one of the elect??
smyrna
07-10-2007, 11:27 AM
S_D wrote:
"I think maybe you took something she said and put your own spin on it..."
Smyrna: What you think is NOT proof. Prove it.
S_D: "Unless I misunderstood, GC doesn't believe in the Rapture either. Now, by the teachings of Arnold Murray, doesn't that make her one of the elect??"
Smyrna: God is her judge, not me. All I am convinced of is that the rapture doctrine is wrong.
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