Oldest Hebrew writing FOUND?

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Archaeologist says he found oldest Hebrew writing
By MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press Writer

HIRBET QEIYAFA, Israel – An Israeli archaeologist has discovered what he believes is the oldest known Hebrew inscription on a 3,000-year-old pottery shard — a find that suggests Biblical accounts of the ancient Israelite kingdom of David could have been based on written texts.

A teenage volunteer discovered the curved shard bearing five lines of faded characters in July in the ruins of an ancient town on a hilltop south of Jerusalem. Yossi Garfinkel, the Israeli archaeologist leading the excavations at Hirbet Qeiyafa, released his conclusions about the writing Thursday after months of study.

He said the relic is strong evidence that the ancient Israelites were literate and could chronicle events centuries before the Bible was written. This could suggest that some of the Bible's accounts were based on written records as well as oral traditions — adding credence to arguments that the Biblical account of history is more than myth.

Rest of story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_sc/israel_ancient_inscription_2)

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Archaeologist says he found oldest Hebrew writing
By MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press Writer

HIRBET QEIYAFA, Israel – An Israeli archaeologist has discovered what he believes is the oldest known Hebrew inscription on a 3,000-year-old pottery shard — a find that suggests Biblical accounts of the ancient Israelite kingdom of David could have been based on written texts.

A teenage volunteer discovered the curved shard bearing five lines of faded characters in July in the ruins of an ancient town on a hilltop south of Jerusalem. Yossi Garfinkel, the Israeli archaeologist leading the excavations at Hirbet Qeiyafa, released his conclusions about the writing Thursday after months of study.

He said the relic is strong evidence that the ancient Israelites were literate and could chronicle events centuries before the Bible was written. This could suggest that some of the Bible's accounts were based on written records as well as oral traditions — adding credence to arguments that the Biblical account of history is more than myth.

Rest of story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_sc/israel_ancient_inscription_2)


Pretty exciting stuff.

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Archaeologist says he found oldest Hebrew writing
By MATTI FRIEDMAN, Associated Press Writer

HIRBET QEIYAFA, Israel – An Israeli archaeologist has discovered what he believes is the oldest known Hebrew inscription on a 3,000-year-old pottery shard — a find that suggests Biblical accounts of the ancient Israelite kingdom of David could have been based on written texts.

A teenage volunteer discovered the curved shard bearing five lines of faded characters in July in the ruins of an ancient town on a hilltop south of Jerusalem. Yossi Garfinkel, the Israeli archaeologist leading the excavations at Hirbet Qeiyafa, released his conclusions about the writing Thursday after months of study.

He said the relic is strong evidence that the ancient Israelites were literate and could chronicle events centuries before the Bible was written. This could suggest that some of the Bible's accounts were based on written records as well as oral traditions — adding credence to arguments that the Biblical account of history is more than myth.

Rest of story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081030/ap_on_sc/israel_ancient_inscription_2)

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Other prominent Biblical archaeologists warned against jumping to conclusions.

Hebrew University archaeologist Amihai Mazar said the inscription is "very important," but suggested that calling the text Hebrew might be going too far.

While the site is likely to add another "building block" to the historical record, archaeologist Israel Finkelstein of Tel Aviv University said the claims about it went beyond the strict boundaries of science.

Finkelstein, who has not visited the dig but attended a presentation of the findings, warned against what he said was a "revival in the belief that what's written in the Bible is accurate like a newspaper."

[truth_child]

i feel if the bible is not in the part that was found and if it doesnt teach like the biblical records state then it is not a real thing

[orthodox]

With a degree in archaeology, I've learned one indisputable fact. When you find one answer it usually comes with 10 new questions.
Biclical archaeology is forever coming one step closer to God. And God is forever taking two steps back into mystery, with us yet far.
There is a great quarterly called BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY, worth a read.

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"The Israelites were not the only ones using the proto-Canaanite characters, and other scholars suggest it is difficult — perhaps impossible — to conclude the text is Hebrew. However, Garfinkel based his identification on a three-letter verb from the inscription meaning "to do," a word he said existed only in Hebrew.

"That leads us to believe that this is Hebrew, and that this is the oldest Hebrew inscription that has been found," he said."

[turtle]

Interesting stuff, but some might have to go back to the tower of Baal to see that people left a particular region and was scatter and that region was sumerian, which means Biblically speaking Abraham came from Ur from that region. I would be interested and knowing if the hierglyphics from that time looks anything like ancient hebrew?

[fatherofaking]

This will change Christianity as we know it.


The Findings of Meru Research
From Stan Tenen's Preface to The Alphabet in Genesis:

After ten years of work with no results (from 1968 to 1978), and almost twenty years of work breaking new ground while looking for past precedent to confirm my findings, finally, in 2006 Jewish scholars that I've been working with have found discussions in traditional literature that match, confirm, and extend my findings. We now know that people in the 12th century knew that the letters came from hand-gestures, based on the same model that it took me thirty years to recover from first principles and only the letter-text of the Hebrew Bible.

The existence of these traditional references changes everything. While what I was working on and proposing was not known to be connected to any prior work, I was on my own. What I was proposing was just one of many proposals by scholars and independent researchers. My opinion wasn't worth more than anyone else's opinion.

What I'm proposing takes on real authority, because now we know that the geometry in Genesis, the idea of geometric metaphor, and the generation of the Hebrew (and likely Greek and Arabic) alphabet from hand-gestures, is not my original idea (only my designs and words are original). It is an essential part of the Western traditions that has been lost over the centuries. It is now our responsibility to present these findings for the benefit of as wide a range of scientists, students, scholars, peoples, and traditions as possible. --Read Stan Tenen's complete Preface Here (http://www.meru.org/NewReleases/AuthorPreface-SNT.30nov06.pdf)

[turtle]

This will change Christianity as we know it.


The Findings of Meru Research
From Stan Tenen's Preface to The Alphabet in Genesis:

--Read Stan Tenen's complete Preface Here (http://www.meru.org/NewReleases/AuthorPreface-SNT.30nov06.pdf)






I am sorry I do not see Islam as love necessarily, if they chose to blow up people with bombs strap to their own bodies to make a point that is not love. Just an opinion. Yeah looked at the article. Love is not martydom. Now with that said. Christians believe in laying one life down but it is different. We lay it down, but soemone literally robs us of our life by killing us, that is a different type of martyer and is not strapping bombs to self. Jews are the same way they die like Christians, for the sake of the word of God not to force the word of God on them.

The article implies that Jews, Christians and Islam make up the three phase triangle. fine in that man opinion and others yes, but not mine.

[fatherofaking]

Turtle what you read was not opinion, it is backed up with sound science.

[turtle]

Turtle what you read was not opinion, it is backed up with sound science.

And I state my opinion. Period. You can not prove God by scientific theory. If you could we all be rich right now, especially the religious world. Forgive me, I am not saying their is some geometric symbols in this, but have you ever thought where these people came from and the religion of that land. Sumerians, Judaism, and Moselm would of come from that land, Christianity came from God, but through the Jewish line a straight tree so to speak. Moslem is off shoot from Abraham through Sarah servant Hagar, son Ismauel. Can't spell this morning.

Geometrics in the writting would be similiar it makes sense it would, because who taught who. Abraham would of taught his kids his traditions and his writting styles. A good father would.

[truth_child]

turtle i agree with you islam is a religion of hate they kill or are supposed to kill any one who is not muslim they hate isreal and if a person or persons hate isreal they hate all of GODS people they are a rligion that worships a false god

[turtle]

turtle i agree with you islam is a religion of hate they kill or are supposed to kill any one who is not muslim they hate isreal and if a person or persons hate isreal they hate all of GODS people they are a rligion that worships a false god

TC not all islamic people hate though, and there are some good people in islam, but it is their teachings that bother me and their mind set.Some do what some do in Christianity, pick and chose what they believe.

[truth_child]

ive never met a nice muslim mabe you have but i havent

[turtle]

ive never met a nice muslim mabe you have but i havent

I have, but truth child, one thing you got to remember as a christian, if you reject a friend that converts to another faith, or rejects someone because of their faith difference you are showing hate and not love. Christians can not reach out for Jesus by showing hate to other faiths.

[truth_child]

turtle no i disagree i do not show hate to any one or try not to egardless of the faith in GOD or in some other god but i dont let them try my faith either i stand up for what i beleive in