Shepherdbs Chapel Detractors A New Approach

[smyrna]

I think that we have not made the best decisions, on how to relate to our detractors. We have been very harsh with them. We have impeached them, we have called them names, we have been not so nice to them.

Yes, I know, we have had to endure the same from them. They have called us liars, racists, hypocrites, heretics, etc., but we should be taking the high road here.

So today I am proposing a new program:

ADOPT A DETRACTOR

With this program, we will have a process through which we can have a more personal, intimate relationship with the detractors.

By working one-on-one, we can offer a kinder, gentler way to deal with the detractors.

But first we must make sure we are qualified to
have our own detractor.

That's why part of my proposal involves design of a Detractor Adoption Kit.(DAK)

So far, I have a few things that such a kit should have:

A "Detractor Tracker", which we will patent, will be software that will help us keep track of our detractors while they are online.

One feature would be a Trust Breakdown Alert, which will be a key logger to let us know if one of our detractors is accessing websites that are not healthy for them, like www.cultbusters.com.au (http://www.cultbusters.com.au)

If by the key loggers, which let us know by a record of the keys they are using what sites they have accessed,we find our detractors violate our code of trust, then they will be subject to disciplinary action.

This would include, but not be limited to, using an electronic fence type of device, in this case a band on the right hand, which would give the detractor a mild electric shock if he or she tries to access a prohibited site.

It is hoped that such measures will not be necessary.

More on this proposal will soon be posted, stay tuned.

[angie0401]

smyrna,
Just a couple of questions:

Can I sign up now or do I have to wait until the DAK is completed?

Do we get to pick our own detractor or will you assign one to us?

If we find we are completely incompatible with our adoptee, can we trade him/her in for a new one?

Do we get to pick a new name for them?

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Those are some valid questions Angie!

How exactly does it work Smyrna and do we have to feed them?</font>

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Are there any fees?</font>

[angie0401]

Terluvire,
I'm assuming there are fees, but hopefully they will include their first immunizations and spaying/neutering them.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">lolololol Angie!!!! lololololol</font>

[smyrna]

Qualifications Needed To Adopt A Detractor

It is important that we take care in finding the right detractor to adopt. And we also need to engage in a stringent program so that we can compete for the detractor that is best suited for us.

Therefore, we will all be part of take a Detractor Adoption Suitability Program.(DASP) Those who have the highest test scores will be matched with the most difficult Detractors.

It is important that if you wish to enter the program, that you sign up by January 1. Because there is a limited number of detractors. So if you want your own detractor, you must sign up by January 1.

If you sign up no later than January 1st, you will receive free gifts.

One gift will be a heavy duty Detractor Alarm Band, one which will give your detractor a mild electric shock if he or she tries to access a website that is on your no access list. It will be made of a Magnesium/Titanium alloy, and cannot be chewed off, or cut, or even damaged by a cutting torch.
These bands were made from the remains of a detractor's space vehicle which was cut up for this purpose.

Another gift will be your own detractor language dictionary. It is important that you can understand your detractor. You need to know what he or she is trying to say.
Here are some examples of the words and definitions for words detractors use:

Heretic: Anyone who disagrees with your detractor.

Racist: Anyone your detractor refers to as a racist is a racist.

Liar: Anyone who offers evidence that your detractor is clearly guilty of some offense.

Anti-Semite: Anyone who uses the word Kenite.

False Prophet: Any Bible teacher that your detractor does not study under.

Heresy: Any teaching that your detractor claims is a false teaching.

Serpent: A snake that talks.

Seed: Plant eggs.

Unicorn: A real animal that is mentioned in Psalm 22, and has one horn coming out of its head.

Fallen Angel: An angel that has tripped and fell to the floor, and is so old it cannot get up on its own.

Truth: Any claim your detractor makes that he or she says is true.

Third Heaven: The Third rock, or third planet from
the Sun.

Check this thread for more news on the Adopt a Detractor Program proposal.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Don't forget deworming. I hope that is covered also.</font>

[smyrna]

Hello Ter and Angie,

You raise a good question, about spaying and neutering.

Detractors should definitely not breed. Especially because they do not believe in twins,you should never consider giving them fertility pills.

There are no fees for adopting a detractor.
We will rely on donations or maybe hold some events to pay for their care.

Perhaps we should have a Detractor Day Picnic, most likely in Gravette, Ar.

One game would be to have all the detractors play tag as they go around the SC broadcast dish. The winner will get their own copy of the Mark of the Beast CD.

I'm sure many SC students would love to attend the Detractor Day picnic, and pay handsomely to witness that game and others.

One other event we can have at the Picnic would be the Detractor Pull.

This would involve putting a chain around a detractor's feet, and pulling him or her into the Shepherd's Chapel.

The winners would be the lowest number of SC students that it took to get a detractor into the Chapel.

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[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Hey Smyrna,

Count me in!! Will there be food at the Detractor Day Picnic?</font>

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Quote:
Detractors should definitely not breed. Especially because they do not believe in twins,you should never consider giving them fertility pills.</font>

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[smyrna]

Of course!

But never give your detractor the usual picnic food, like hot dogs or burgers.

Detractors should be on a strict diet.

Anything they do eat should be laced with Truth serum.

Detractors have to have a diet that will help heal their many genetic mistakes. One idea would be to feed them Adam's Apples. That way they may be able (pardon the pun)to restore them to their original Adamic form.

[dodge]

Do you know what you guys sound like? You have suggested that those who don't agree with your beliefs, your "detractors," be disciplined by placing electronic devices that shock them, immunize them, spay and neuter them (they should not breed), deworm them...you sound like Nazis talking about the final solution, thinking of people as animals. Please, stop this. It serves no purpose other than making you look bad. Where is the love that Jesus taught? Agape!

[angie0401]

Whatever you do, DO NOT bring apples to the picnic - that's magic fruit, you know!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Smyrna,

Truth serum is good!!

Now, will they be housebroken?</font>

[smyrna]

Dodge,

We really have to be careful on how we treat our detractors.
Many of us have dogs and cats, and you have to admit they are like children and family to us. So you misunderstand. We do not want to harm our detractors. And we have to keep them from harming themselves and others.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">NO NO NO...no magic fruit [apples] allowed!!

Magic fruit is bad!!! Causes halucinations and delusions.</font>

[smyrna]

Housebroken?

Good question. And that reminds me of the medical issues.

Detractors are prone to certain ailments and deformities. After all, they have degenerated over thousands of years, at least that is the opinion of at least one detractor.

One major problem is Foot in Mouth disease.
(Self Explanatory)

Another is Detractor Repetition Seizure Syndrome

When your detractor keep on asking the same questions.

Of course, your detractors must always be entered into a anger management program,(or religious tolerance program)and that way some of these maladies may be prevented or eliminated.

[smyrna]

Yes, we will have to try and find another fruit instead of Adam's Apples. Good thinking, Ter.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Wow Smyrna, I can see how serious you take your job. We nominate you as the Director of DAK. You have really thought this out.

You are only looking for the best of care for the detractors.

On awards night, there will be a big surprise for you!</font>

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Actually Angie recogonized the danger of apples. She is indispensable.</font>

[dodge]

Matthew 5:44 "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you."

[smyrna]

Thanks Ter, and you to Angie, I can't do this alone.
This is a team effort. You know that detractors are so very hard to train, keep, and maintain.

It's much harder than breaking a horse.

It's really just like trying to train the north end of a southbound horse, if you get my drift.

[smyrna]

Hey Dodge, lighten up, this is just a parody.
It's a game, just like what they do over at Cultbusters.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">I agree Smyrna, It will take lots and lots of training. We really do need to work as a team. Maybe instead of adopting a detractor on our own, we might need a buddy system.</font>

[dodge]

But you are not like Franklin, and this is not Cultbusters! Why lower yourself to their level? Take the high ground. It doesn't seem like the Christian thing to do, even in jest. Franklin deserves your love and compassion, and our jobs as Christians is to set an example. It seems that way to me.

[smyrna]

Ter,

I've actually already thought of that. Because there are so few detractors left,they are an endangered species.

That is why I'm already working on the
Shepherd's Chapel Detractor Protection Act.

Yes, it sure would be a big help. Because detractors are hard to handle, if you don't know what you are doing.

[smyrna]

Dodge,
You are right, we aren't like Franklin. Our motives are not the same. Franklin wants to literally destroy the Chapel, he has said so.
Ours is to have our own detractor. Maybe if we treat them right, they will able to be set free back into the wild.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Smyrna,

After you work out the details of the Shepherd's Chapel Detractor Protection Act, let us know exactly what is entailed.

I'm going to go to bed now, for I need to rest up for my adoptee.

Goodnight all and pleasant dreams. I will continue discussing this tomorrow.

PS. Smyrna, thanks. This has been the most light-hearted thread that I've posted on in about a year. Thanks for the smile!</font> http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[smyrna]

God Bless, Ter, and pleasant dreams.

[smyrna]

As we discussed earlier, Detractors are prone to certain maladies, such as Foot in Mouth disease, and
Detractor Repetition Seizure Syndrome.

Detractor's afflictions need to be properly diagnosed. Part of the process of doing this is being able to talk with your detractor and make sure you know what he or she is feeling. Your detractor needs to be comforted, even if you have to pander to his or her delusions.

Let's take one detractor, Frankie, who apparently has Detractor Repetition Seizure Syndrome, which is when a detractor asks the same question over and over.

The proper way of making a detractor with this disease comfortable is to simply say:

"I think you should get some rest, we can talk about this later." Or tell your detractor you'll look into it, and get back to him.

Just say anything, because remember you don't want to upset the detractor's fragile mental state. After all, his/her brain is already adversely affected, which is what one detractor with this affliction believes:

onehumanrace.com:

"Our brains have suffered from 6,000 years (since Adam) of the Curse. We are greatly degenerated compared with people many generations ago. We may now be nowhere near as intelligent or inventive as Adam and Eve's children. Scripture gives us a glimpse of what appears to be great inventiveness from the beginning."


If the situation gets out of hand,and you think your detractor needs medical attention, simply take him to a Veterinary Clinic.

If your detractor protests and say they don't need a Vet, but a human doctor, simply remind them that during Adam's time that would have been true, but now that the detractor species has been degenerating for thousands of years, the Vet is more capable, because they work on monkeys all the time.

[smyrna]

We really a haven't discussed where you would house your detractor. Though most have their own homes, what if you have your detractor over for the weekend? Where would he/she stay?

The best way to take care of your detractor while at your place is to simply give them a spare room. I think we should be able to get some decals made up that would make them feel at home.
These decals would have representations of their religious beliefs and you can put them on the walls of the room, which would keep your detractor calm.
For example, we should have decals that look like a snake standing and talking to Adam and Eve, or Noah's Ark with polar bears and penguins going up the gangplank, and perhaps also a Unicorn, because all detractors believe they existed, because they are mentioned in nine different places in the Bible.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Good Morning Smyrna http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

I see you have been hard at work working out any kinks there might be. Good job! You're the best Director ever!

I was thinking, we can't always keep a steady eye on our detractor for reasons such as work, vacations, shopping...etc. Will there be services provided such as detractor day care or personal detractor sitters?</font>

[smyrna]

First I must tell you that unfortunately Franklin had a Foot In Mouth attack on the 11th of this month that I had not known about. See the details of the SC Students thread.

Yes, I have already thought of how to keep track of our detractors when we are at work or otherwise engaged. Now we do have the proposal of the Detractor Tracker for their online activities.

But offline, perhaps we can utilize already existing technology and have a number of those electronic ankle braclets so we can make sure they don't wander too far.

It is necessary to take this precaution, for I am sure you remember the out of control detractor that invaded the SC studios in Gravette.

Had we the Adopt A Detractor program in place back then, it is very possible we could have prevented it.

[david_munson]

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Humor,
such a wonderful thing.
Smyrna,you are funny but I must comment about keystroke loggers.
They are illegal and if you get caught (not that I really take this foray into humor seriously) it is a felony.
But,
I know you're just having some fun.
So,
have at it,LOL.

Dave

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[ultimate1]

smyrna,
Why do you always revert back to name calling and mean posts. You have no love.
"but have no love" 1Cor13

...AND NOW you propose committing felonies.

You just started another thread to be a kinder and gentler, more a person who exemplifies the fruit of the spirit and walks in the spirit with its attributes of Galatians 5:22
WELL Love, joy, peace, gentleness, kindness, longsuffering, self control etc. Did you lie again because you have no fellowship with the true God of love.
Read this. These are the attributes of God and His Spirit and those you are to portray.
Galatians 5:22-26

22But the fruit of the [Holy] Spirit [the work which His presence within accomplishes] is love, joy (gladness), peace, patience (an even temper, forbearance), kindness, goodness (benevolence), faithfulness,

23Gentleness (meekness, humility), self-control (self-restraint, continence).
Against such things there is no law [[f]that can bring a charge].

24And those who belong to Christ Jesus (the Messiah) have crucified the flesh (the godless human nature) with its passions and appetites and desires.

25If we live by the [Holy] Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. [If by the Holy Spirit [g]we have our life in God, let us go forward [h]walking in line, our conduct controlled by the Spirit.]
Let us not become vainglorious and self-conceited, competitive and challenging and provoking and irritating to one another, envying and being jealous of one another.

Religious nerds like you are what turn all people from God.

Religion is the enemy of God.

You do well to fill that bill.

God is about relationship and love for "God is love" and sent himself in the form of his son to save all from the penalty of their own making. 1 John and John 3:17.

[ultimate1]

smearman,
There you go again smearing, DECEPTION and not showing the whole story.

"Pride comes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall" Proverbs 16

Murray's works of darkness and demonic teachings are being exposed.
We are told to expose the works of darkness.
Paul even rebuked Peter( a hand picked disciple of Jesus) PUBLICALLY for demanding circumcision of new Christians.

Murray calling the white race the chosen race is RACIST. There is no other way. What do you call it?

Murray stating Eve had sex with satan when Biblical text states otherwise is wrong, heresy, and both apostate, and just plain crazy when you add up his list of insane teachings.

Religious stiffnecks like you are what turn all people from God.

Religion is the enemy of God.

You do well to fill that bill.

God is about RELATIONSHIP and LOVE for "God is love" and sent himself in the form of his son to save all from the penalty of their own making. 1 John and John 3:17.

[observer]

I've read all the threads here, and have come to the conclusions that Arnold Murray is the only person in the world that has the TRUE understanding of the Bible. Anyone who disagrees with him, or with any of his devout followers, should be immediately executed because it is obvious that they are all Kenites, spawns of Satan, useless tares amongst the wheat. Oh, how blind they are not to see that Pastor Murray was sent by God himself to open up the eyes of the deluded fools who think they have the correct interpretation of Holy Scripture. Isn't it clear that all who disagree with Arnold Murray are wrong, and that only Shepherd's Chapel students know the TRUTH!!! Kill the Kenites!!! Kill all the Spawns of Satan!!!

[watchman_2]

I think that some detractors lack a sense of humor. Or, they fear being adopted by Smyrna.

I want to manufacture/make a line of Serpent Seed toys for the detractors to play with.

[david_munson]

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You know folks,
we'd better watch out because this could break down into some humorous ad-lib thread that no one gets offended about because every one knows it's just for fun.
And we just couldn't have that now ,
could we ,or could we?
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And in that light,
we (I guess I type "detractors" here,huh?)
could come up with some humorous stuff for our SC friends.

Maybe a line of merchandise would suffice?

Serpent slippers for three fig leaves a pair.
Snakeskin boots.
Fig leave ensemble gift certificate.
An "I was an angel in a previous life" tee shirt.
A "Devil's tit" costume.(for Halloween)
An anatomy book(for Mt*24:19)men don't give suck.
Although I have heard that men just suck, usually said by some woman that some dumb guy got mad.
An "Eve's affair with Lucifer" book written by ,well you know.
The original purple shirt with a rainbow across the front that Satan wore when he and Adam did the dirty.
OK,
that's far enough for me.
(maybe a bit too far,LOL)

Any one else got any?

(This is only meant in fun and should be taken as such.)

Like Watchman said,it's just humor.
(paraphrased)<-----not quoted exactly.

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[watchman_2]

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[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Oh yes David, I think a whole line of the sin in the garden stuff would do great and would look great on our detractors. Don't forget the apron!!

Watchman, the detractors would absolutely love playing with serpent seed toys!! That would keep them entertained for hours and hours!!</font>

[smyrna]

And just think, when we thought we were down to just a couple of detractors, we get new ones, just in time for Christmas!

"U1" and probably one of his co-workers, "observer." boxed up and ready for their spot underneath the Christmas tree.

You just have to love these detractors, the way they give themselves these names. They are so antithetical to what they portray. There must be some dynamic at work.

But Ultimate one is already suffering from Foot In Mouth Disease, the major affliction of Detractors:


"smearman, pd
and the rest of you time wasters.

Yes maybe our bosses would like to know this.

We own the company do do head!
We finish our work, our projects and move on and we can do whatever we want.
It only takes us few minutes to visit this site.
YOU PEOPLE LIVE HERE 24/7. WHAT A WASTED LOW LIFE."

Ultimate1 is Ultimately without a clue as to what I do for a living.

I'd really like to know what his company produces. I'd be willing to bet it's organic fertilizer.

He sure seems to have the talent to produce it.

[smyrna]

Serpent seed toys! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Wrapped with ribbons and a small "Candy Cain"

Aprons made out of fig leaves!


Once I get my own detractor, I'm going to have him or her come over and watch the movie 'Twins' with me!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Oh Smyrna, "Twins" is a wonderful choice!

Now at first Detractors might feel more comfortable with toys they can relate to, such as:
A tree toy, which one may ask it questions. It would reply with "yes" "no" "maybe" "try again" or "be back later".

And we can have talking snake toys, which would say when you pull the string: "want a piece of fruit?" (any other suggested phrases for this toy would be appreciated)</font>

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">OHhhhhh, They would love a toy snake with detachable legs for before and after the curse. It could be a game played like the game "Cootie".</font>

[plow_deep]

How about remote controlled "Hot air pre-trib detractor action figures" that they can make float up into the air at the push of a button.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Plow, that would sell like hot cakes!!

I was also thinking of making our own rendition of the game "Don't spill the beans", except ours with be with an ark and animals. The object of the game is to see how many animals you can get on the ark befor it topples over.</font>

[smyrna]

With all these great ideas, I don't know why we can't continue on schedule for our first adoptions!

I think January 1st would be a great time to begin the actual process. I think it would be no problem to use one or more of the pages of my website to chronicle our progress.

I will still be working, but can stop in and do what I can. I get off on the 4th, then we can get down to actually adopt a detractor.

I figure, hey, we've handled them pretty well already, so it won't be too hard to make one of them our own.

But like we already discussed, if there aren't enough detractors to go around, we can share one.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Smyrna, the 4th can't come fast enough!!</font>

[watchman_2]

Do I have to pay extra for a detractor that blushes? I know that they are superior to the other breeds.

[smyrna]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif Watchman!

[smyrna]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif Watchman!

[ultimate1]

Smyrna,
There you go again smearman, more evil diaharrea of your mouth with words from the pit like your cult leader Arnold Murray.
It's time to clean your temple with Gods love and the "washing of the water of the word" Jesus. Wash your mind and mouth out.
Jesus cleaned the temple it with the whip.

You state on the other thread:
"Yeah, ok. You need to up your dosage, or lay your hands on your rear end so you can heal your brain."
You say to Lay hands on my rear end so I can heal my brain? (more corrupt communication...)
What a potty mouth you have. "Out of the abundance heart the mouth speaks." Out of your mouth comes curses and death. Prov 18:20-22

This is the kind of rhetoric Arnold Murray teaches you. No love just arrogance and pride.

All derogatory statements, perversions accusations, with no substance, truth or Biblical proof.

Hebrews 11 verse 6 states it clear.
"WITHOUT FAITH it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God" You do not please God.
The Bible also states "Faith is the victory that overcomes the world."
"Fight the good fight of faith" to keep your faith up.
and it goes on to state "FAITH WORKS BY LOVE"

No one needs to ever call you for prayer because:
You are no person with faith. Only the "prayer of faith" with no doubt gets results. Mark 11:23
You don't believe in a powerful unlimited God.
You have no signs following you confirming the word preached. Mark 16
You don't believe in the unlimited power of God and the Holy Spirit.
You don't know the Holy Spirit of God.
Even the Bible is only discerned being understood by the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible.
You preach bad news and you don't win souls.
This is not wisdom. "He who wins souls is wise "Daniel

No wonder you misunderstand the Bible. You have no Holy Spirit understanding. You don't ask the Holy Spirit for understanding.
Your biggest need is to have a relationship with the Holy Spirit. You don't know the scriptures about the Holy Spirit. You're a hearer not a believer of a doer. You talk but no action and no results or fruit.

Jesus said "the Holy Spirit the conforter will lead you and guide you into all truth" Mk16
Romans 8:14 says "You are to be led by the Holy
Spirit."
You only come into RELATIONSHIP with God through the Holy Spirit of God. That is even how you receive salvation being born again from above by the Holy Spirit.

Just more conspiracy theories and support for the RACIST Cult leader Arnold Murray.

Your lack of Holy Spirit knowledge and fellowship dims and hinders your understanding and power of God. It makes you hard hearted. You are so hard hearted you receive nothing from God or the Holy Spirit. Hardness of heart and unbelief in people hindered Jesus.

You LIMIT GOD, because you are full of unbelief tradition and cult teaching. You don't even know the nature of our loving all powerful God and all the good things he gave us for life and Godliness in His grace. 1Peter1 \
We have the same power that raised Jesus from the dead in us. Romans 8

This is all about your lack of love, knowledge, and walking in and exhibiting the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Gal 5:22

[smyrna]

Ultimate1,

You come on here, and no matter what beef you have with another Church, you don't actually exhibit love by immediately calling people racists, when you don't even know them, you don't call the Pastor of a Church cult leader or racist, when you aren't even sure what his name is (Andrew Murray, that is YOUR lack of knowledge) and especially, when the only knowledge about this Church you do have, is from websites run by people that are so cowardly, they will not even agree to having a debate on a forum that is not biased towards either group!

You are nothing but an agitator, and there has at least been one poster on these threads that say that is your reputation at Factnet, which shouldn't then be hard to prove otherwise.

[ultimate1]

smearman.
Murray is a racist by his own belief statemnents and by definition. This is just a simple common sense fact.

Murray believes and says the white race is the chosen race.

That is racist either way you look at it.

Therefore Murray is a racist.
That is a fact.

That may be tough to swallow for you because you follow him like he is God.
ARNOLD Murray has no church. He has no place of worship. He is no Pastor as stated what a Pastor is according to the Bible. He is an imposter apostate fool that leads weakminded people astray because they cannont hear from the Holy Spirit to rightly discern and divide the word.

You do not listen to the Holy Spirit. You deny the very power of the Holy Spirit.
You are supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit.
This is why you have such dry religious stiffnecked attitudes and arrogance.

You blaspheme the Holy Spirit and stand in judgment of God according to the Bible. because
You attribute miracles done by men and women to satan...those that lay hands on people according to the Bible and heal the sick, pray the prayer of faith and annoint with oil and heal the sick, perform miracles, cast out deivils in Jesus name, operate in the Gifts of the Spirit as stated in 1Cor14, Romans 12, 1Cor12, Romans 8:26-27, or Jude 20 and throughout the book of Acts and the Gospels.

You are the agitator trying to lead people from the faith. You have no faith. You do not please God. Hebrews 11:6 You put your faith in Arnold Murray a man and not God.

You have gone the way of Balamn and you error from the truth of God. You exhibit no evidence of results and demonstration and power of God.
Neither does your cult leader Arnold Murray.

Jesus said we shall no them by their fruit. Murrays fruit is nothing but evil and no results of changed lives, and restored people to relationship with a living and powerful loving God thru Jesus Christ.

Dry bones are brittle, produce sickness and eventually crack.

[smyrna]

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[ultimate1]

Smyrna,
YOU THINK Racism is funny!
Therfore Smyrna is a racist since he supports Murrays racist beliefs and agrees with Murray who states white anglo saxons are the chosen race.

[smyrna]

No, I think you are funny. Because you are just another person that has absolutely NO CLUE as to what Pastor Murray is all about. I think you're funny because you claim to be a healer and exorcist and that simply cannot be. I've been around very dedicated religious people all my life,and those who have been credited with actual healings and the ability to change lives do not run around bearing false witness, making accusations without any hard evidence, (only hearsay) and ranting and raving like some crazy, street corner zealot that would have been locked in an asylum had not liberal politics took over for common sense.

I especially think you are funny, claiming Murray is a racist, because I am a white guy that lived with a black woman for six years, my godfather was black, I grew up in Jewish neighborhood (my first two serious girlfriends were Jewish) and still have many Jewish and black friends.


I attended a Judo school that was also part of the Chicago Buddhist Temple, so when you say I am affiliated with a racist and anti-semitic Church, it just makes me think how silly and ridiculous you sound, because I know the truth.

It also makes me angry, but if I got angry because of all the foolishness in this world, I'd be angry all the time, and I just refuse to be miserable because of simpletons like you, want to act stupid on the Internet.

I'd rather just laugh at you, goofball.

[plow_deep]

ultimate1,

Your perception is weak.

Smyrna thinks your funny.

Me too! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[plow_deep]

The more Ive thought about this thread the more I think I'm turning against the Adopt-A-Detractor idea.

I think they should be allowed to roam free and wild with freewill.

Therefore I make the motion to start:

PETD

People for the Ethical Treatment of Detractors

[smyrna]

Plow_deep,

You are definitely on a roll tonight! Thanks for making me laugh, and for your thoughtful insight as well! You are truly Spirit led. God has a sense of humor too!

"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh;
the Lord shall have them in derision." Psalm 2

Merry Christmas!

[plow_deep]

Merry Christmas my friend and to one and all!

[smyrna]

Plow proposed PETD,

Well, on the surface it appears as a good concept, but we must remember that detractors are an endangered species.

Between the "genteic" mistakes and "degeneration" that is plaguing them (see www.onehumanrace.com (http://www.onehumanrace.com))
they also have an extreme revulsion and vile reaction to truth.

So I'm not sure it's the best thing to do, to let them roam totally free. They may go the way of the Dodo bird.

We should try and preserve them for future study. Though detractors don't appear to have any useful purpose,(other for our casual entertainment) they could contribute to our quest to disseminate truth. And, maybe we can also find useful ways to utilize them.

I think, that the military may wish to use detractors.

They can become cruise missle pilots, Arctic research station guards, target range dummies,
latrine attendants, etc.

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Adopt a "detractor" is funny.

Then again if you consider it, all who come to the saving knowledge of the grace of God can be adopted into the heavenly family of God's Kingdom because of the Blood payment for our sin.

That's a far better "adoption" oui?

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[rachelengland]

oui,oui!!!!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">David,

I'm so glad to see you have a sense of humor.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif Humor is good for the soul!</font>
Pro 17:22 A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

<font color="0000ff">I agree, the best adoption is the adoption into the family of God. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

So Smyrna, I read that you have dibbs on Franklin. You know, I think you are the best one suited to handle his needs.</font> http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Terl,
I have to laugh at myself sometimes or I'd go crackers,LOL.

Plus,
I often look for humor in the strangest places
and I don't really get offended when someone wants to engage in a good laugh at my expence.

I've looked in the mirror,LMAO.

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[watchman_2]

smyrna,

If you adopt franklin, will that work while you are out to sea for 2 weeks at a time?

I guess that you could leave tape recordings of Bible Studies for him. It shouldn't take too long to prepare the first one for him. It's only one verse -

<font color="0000ff">Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
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Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
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Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
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I'm sure this will last him 10 to 20 years before he is ready for another scripture.

[smyrna]

Watchmanhttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

When I'm out at sea, I guess you or someone else will have to take care of him.

[smyrna]

Another thing to consider:

I think it may become necessary for at least some detractors to prove they are real people, and not some computer generated personality.

I'm starting to wonder, for instance, if Franklin is real. It may be that the program that operates him has hung up, because all we hear is Genesis 4:1 over on the thread by that title.

What is claimed to be Franklin on the CB site can also just be a bunch of those CB people acting through this false personality they themselves created.

They could easily have brought that show over here
and are just using this Franklin character the same way they use it over at CB.

This could explain all the apparent contradictions the character Franklin is clearly guilty of. With that many people operating under that one handle, this can easily happen.

It's something worth looking into.

[smyrna]

Well, folks, is it time to adopt a detractor?

I guess we should come up with a way where we all have a shot at our favorite detractor.

I just can't seem to have a favorite, because they all are entertaining in their own way.

Any suggestions?

[angie0401]

Could we have a drawing or maybe you could assign random numbers to them and then pick numbers? I'll take the number 8.

[sharon]

smyrna you said....
I think that we have not made the best decisions, on how to relate to our detractors. We have been very harsh with them. We have impeached them, we have called them names, we have been not so nice to them.
Yes, I know, we have had to endure the same from them. They have called us liars, racists, hypocrites, heretics, etc., but we should be taking the high road here.

And for a minute I believed it! I was so happy! I thought now they are finding the way Jesus wants to lead them! But then I found that it was you leading them again, away from the high road. Back to the low road, and more of the same.

And this board might be funny if it was different from the other boards but it is just the same things said in different ways. I am sorry that Jesus lost this round. Maybe the high road can come later, if you have time.

Some want every much for you to walk this road, and you are giving them exactly what they want, and I do not mean Franklin. But one who loves it when we call names and tell half truths and gossip. One who likes it when we use other Christians badly. And then act like children and say oh it is his fault he started it.

Is that what you will tell the Lord on Judgment day, its Franklins fault, he lead me astray, and made me call names and speak falsehoods. I wanted to show him love but he questioned my beliefs!! I love all my enemies unless they do not agree with me! I treat others the way I would like to be treated, unless the say bad things about my religion. See in this you would be like Adam, oh Lord the woman gave me the fruit! Remember how well that worked for him?

All this talk of Adam and Eve, where is Jesus in this? Loving your Enemy? Did he not say all the LAWS and all the PROPHETS hang on the love of God and each other. Seems pretty clear, and yet I do not see any of that love here, just mockery and anger. You worry that Satan was in the garden, you should worry that he is in these pages. Who but him can lead you astray? Give you false teachers? Set you on this path? Is this the path that leads to the Lord? To the love he asked of you?

I do not see your beliefs as wrong as I do not know that much about them. But I do not need to know your beliefs to see that you are not following Jesus. Out with the Old and in with the New. You do not need to know who was in the garden, for Jesus does not say that matters, he says love matters.
Sure it is fun to debate, and question, seeking all the time. But that is not what is happening here. There is no seeking. Nothing is being learned here, but that those who follow Pastor Murray are prone to anger and frustration. Name calling and hair pulling. I am glad you are not defending Jesus.

I am sure Pastor Murray wishes you were. And if you do not think I am right, check and see who it is who speaks of Jesus here. Dodge is the one asking where is the love of Jesus here!

And as funny as you may think this all is, Dodge is right it is no different than what the Nazis said. In fact it is exactly the same, even the not letting them breed. Sure it is said in jest and I did laugh a bit. But then I am not God and he may not feel it is funny to joke about copying nazi propaganda you know with all the death and agony. Or maybe he will think this is the time to laugh. But you know he does love his Jews, they are his chosen people, so he may take offence.

[smyrna]

Your words would be so much more meaningful, Sharon, if I didn't think this is just another one of you and Capt. Franklin's space missions to the planet "yarrum".

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Smyrna,
food for thought.
Even if it is another foray into Stardate,she has spoken truth none the less.

Take the chicken leave the bones.

Philippians 1:15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
:16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
:17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

Truth is truth.
No matter the source.

All of creation proclaims the glory of God.

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[watchman_2]

sharon,

WAKE UP! It is franklin and his space nut cult fantasy crew that make a religion out of their collective misinterpretation of scripture. Where is Jesus in all of that garbage?

Furthermore, who are you to judge what posts Jesus favors and which ones Jesus dislikes. From our prospective, Jesus hates franklin's, and his space nut cult fantasy crews', efforts to detract from His Word.

[smyrna]

Dave, first, Happy New Year to you. Hope you have one full of blessings!

Now look Dave, I'd take your advice much more positively if you would be a bit more balanced in your approach. Are these CB people free from sin or something? Go to the Franklin Is Finished thread and tell me why they have such a hard time admitting Franklin is guilty of ANYTHING, while they accuse me of being guilty of EVERYTHING.

These people come here in their imaginary spaceship,call us racists and heretics, ignore our detailed denials, continue to ask question we've answered hundreds of times, and in Franklin's case, acts as the supreme hypocrite, imposing upon us his own rules, rules which he delights in breaking himself.

Al that stuff is going on, and I'm supposed to listen to their sermonizing.

Give me a break, Munsun.

[sharon]

Now watchman you know Jesus does not hate Franklin. And as I stated before, this has nothing to do with Franklin.

You know that what I say is true, sure it is fun to pretend to be nazis I guess, but they are now acting out exactly what they were accused of being. I am only pointing that out. Sometimes it is really easy to step over the line. It was done here. I also have been guilty of this on occasion. One can step over but one also can step back.

Now as you know I have never bothered much with these boards. But it is hard not to think nazi when you read this stuff, and I do not take that lightly or find it a joke. They may say it is not in their doctrine and that may be true, I do not know. But if they say it is not on THIS board they are lying to us and themselves. Many besides those named here would be offended by such talk. I am pretty sure Pastor Murray would be.

Smyrna said ...I grew up in Jewish neighborhood (my first two serious girlfriends were Jewish) and still have many Jewish and black friends.

Now then surely Smyrna would know what hate tracts are and how they were used and would find them as offensive as I have found them to be. Sometimes we are blinded by anger.

And our board in Space, well you will not find Smyrna, watchman_2,angie0401I plow_deep, terluvire as they are not there.

[smyrna]

Sharon's post is beyond the pale, but actually typical of detractors. Make an accusation, and then comment as if it is not an accusation, but a fact. It's probably a by-product of playing games all the time. Reality is blurred by fantasy.

"You know that what I say is true, sure it is fun to pretend to be nazis I guess,..."

And then there is this:

Smyrna said ..."I grew up in Jewish neighborhood (my first two serious girlfriends were Jewish) and still have many Jewish and black friends."

Now then surely Smyrna would know what hate tracts are and how they were used and would find them as offensive as I have found them to be. Sometimes we are blinded by anger."


So in Sharon's mind, wherever there are black or Jewish people, there are "hate tracts."

For the record, there were no "hate tracts". What kind of min dreams up stuff like this, or looks at the world through such negative eyes? Is this yet another by-product of fantasy role playing?

In closing, Sharon and her space buddies can misinterpret what we did on this thread just like they misinterpret Scripture. But no matter how many times they do it, it will not make them correct.

They have my own words, that I grew up in a very diverse environment and lived in peace in an American city. Yet they still accuse me of being racist and anti-semitic. So there goes the bearing false witness again. They just can't help themselves.

Space is very dark, very cold, and very unlivable. I'm glad I'm NOT there.

[bear]

Hey everyone,

I needed this thread tonight. I am still laughing.

I hope that I am not a DT, for I do not like to wear stuff around ny wrists, and I hate electrical shock. Perhaps you could consider me the annoying little cub who eats the left over hamburger in your trash. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lame.gif

[smyrna]

Hello Bear,

Happy New Year to you, on this 12th day of celebration of the birth of our Lord!

Thankfully, you have found the true spirit of our funny thread here.

One thing your post helped me notice, is that the detractors failed to notice we make fun of ourselves here too. But since they seem to be humorless sourpusses, they would rather compare us to Nazis!

In any case, I'm glad that you found it amusing, which was our sole intent. It's a type of parody of the games the detractors play at cultbusters.com.au

We are continuing this game, but we've been busy with the CB space mission that Capt. Franklin has taken his crew on. They call the SC threads planet "Yarrum" as I'm sure you've noticed.

Be well Bear, and enjoy the festivities!

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Smrna,
you must know by now that I do not think any one is without sin.
That is a daily struggle we endure that we are told to put on the new man in order to walk in the light.

I don't agree with every one here on all that is said.
(I'm not on any ones side,I'm on every ones side)

Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
1 Timothy 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

To me ,
it's all about Christ.

Dave
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[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Also anytime you see me exort or rebuke it applies just as much to me as any one else,maybe more so to me as much as any body.
I struggle too.

I listen to my own advice.
I aslo learn from what I read here and that from both "sides"!?

Sides,
what do we think we are doing?

2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

There is only one side to be on that gives life.

Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Dave
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[smyrna]

Thanks for the sermon Dave. We all need to be reminded of this. But this board is supposed to be just for fun, whether the detractors want to take it as such or not.

[ezekiel_37]

Hi Dave

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
You are most welcome Smyrna,
I do recognise and appreciate the humor of this thread.We all need to loosen up once in a while and not take ourselves too seriously.

Hi Zeke,
it's been a while my friend.
Glory to God in the highest.
Christ our hope.
Dave
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[arron]

one said on this board for the record there were no hate tracts.. well there is and have been and will keep on being as long as there are sin in this world, in ohter words till JESUS come and set up HIS KINGDOM. there is hatred for the blacks and for the jews especially, as there is hate for different ones in different parts of the world. we have blacks that attend our church from time to time and we attend theirs, there is no hatred here but there still is in the world, i have jewish friends and there is love there but in the world there is hate. and there is always some who will write haterd things every where they go , on walls, on paper in the bathroom .it doesnt matter

[smyrna]

Don't worry, Arron. You are on the list of detractors up for adoption. Soon you will have a loving SC student who will take care of you.

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
What about me?
I want an SC'er to adopt me so they can pay all my bills and feed me all the food I can eat.
I don't need diapers yet but just wait a while and you can have the experience of tending an adult with no bladder control.

Plus I want an allowance so I can hang out with my friends at the mall.(kids still do that don't they?)

Hey Arron,
maybe you and I can be adopted together.

Ahhh, a place of humor.
We all need some every so often.

Dear Lord,
Thank you for my funny bone,
Dave

P.S. please don't kick it too hard.

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[angie0401]

David,
I would offer to adopt you, but since I've been accused of trying to pick up men here on Factnet, I guess I'll have to request a female detractor. Besides, I've been changing diapers for the last 17 years, so I would rather not start that again too soon.
Also, you probably wouldn't like it here at my house because (according to my kids) "there is nothing to eat!" at my house - not sure what all that stuff is in the cabinets and refrigerator! We are also very unfair around here. We insist that they bring home good grades, stay out of trouble, be good citizens, attend church regularly, be responsible and have a curfew. Apparently none of their friends have to do that.

I'm sure smyrna will find you a nice loving home, though. Not sure if watchman would be the best match for you - how about plow?

Dear Lord, I also thank you for Dave's funny bone.

Comic relief is an absolutely necessity here at FN!

[smyrna]

Angie,

Wow, they do that to you too? My refrigerator is so full of stuff that I can't get anything else in ti, but "theres' nothing to eat" according to my sixteen year old daughter!

Angie is also right about the gender issue and adoption. We don't want to give anyone the wrong impression, even though no impression was enough for one of our real problem detractors to start hurling accusations.

How about Godchild, Angie? Think you can handle that?


Dave, I'm sorry to say that you didn't make the detractor adoption list. If you are truly in need, however, I think Watchman may be interested.
http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/wink.gif

[angie0401]

Sure, smyrna, I would be happy to adopt Vivian. We actually have more in common than she realizes. She can even bring her parakeet, as I've recently developed an affinity for them.
Where do I sign?

[skooter942000]

Finally,
- a THREAD (that is not totally Offensive).

- Yea!!!!!




An Old Joke /Christian Humor:

A new pastor was out visiting
the homes of his parishioners.

At one house it seemed obvious
that someone was at home,
but no answer came to his repeated
knocks at the door.

Therefore, he took out a card and wrote
"Revelation 3:20" on the back of it
and stuck it in the door.


When the offering was processed the following Sunday,
he found that his card had been returned.

Added to it was this cryptic message, "Genesis 3:10."


Reaching for his Bible to check out the citation,
.....he broke up in gales of laughter.


Revelation 3:20 begins "Behold, I stand at the door and knock."

Genesis 3:10 reads, "I heard your voice in the garden and
I was afraid for I was naked."


...Remember when the funniest jokes were the clean ones?

.....They still are!


"A cheerful heart is good medicine" (Prov. 17:22)

[smyrna]

What a courageous step forward, Angie! I think we should all meet here over the weekend and get the adoption process going.

Because of the shortage of detractors, we may have to have co-adoptions. I know how many of us would like to have their very own detractor, but some are so wild, they just come in, spout off a bit, and then disappear. I suppose they do this all over the web. Wandering detractors are not fit for adoption.

[smyrna]

Skooter: http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">HI Smyrna,

I was thinking of adopting arron, but now I don't think it's a good idea. I don't want to be accused of "picking up men" at Factnet..lol

I do think though that arron and my dad would get along wonderfully!! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Angie, I commend you for your bravery...lol

Skooter, I loved your joke. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Peace,
Ter</font>

[angie0401]

Skooter http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Because of the shortage of detractors, we may have to have co-adoptions.
OK by me. I'm pretty good at sharing.

Angie, I commend you for your bravery...lol
I just can't resist them - they seem so sad and in need of a loving home. I know it will be a challenge, but I think the world would be a better place if we all tried to help like this.

Smyrna,
Will we get a starter package of supplies? I'm assuming that they are all still on milk, because I don't think I've seen any of them actually make a real attempt at meat, so food shouldn't be an issue. However, I think that some things like a detractor pooper scooper will be a necessity for some of them.

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
I remember when my kids where teens.
You have pretty much nailed it down.

Nothing in a full refrigerator to eat.
All those unopened cans being empty.
LOL.
"My friends parents let them do everything".
I bet you've heard that one before.

You're mean,unfair and unreasonable to expect sensibility from a teen.

I used to get quite a laugh from the wild excuses and explanations I got from my kids.
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angie0401,
you'd have to adopt my wife too,we're an inseparable pair.
We think of ourselves as one person in Christ.
Not that that detracts from our individuality.
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Great Truths About Life That Kids Know
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No matter how hard you try, you can't baptize cats.

When your Mom is mad at your Dad, don't let her brush your hair.

If your sister hits you, don't hit her back. They always catch the second person.

Never ask your 3-year old brother to hold a tomato.

You can't trust dogs to watch your food.

Don't sneeze when someone is cutting your hair.

Never hold a Dust-Buster and a cat at the same time.

You can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk.
---
LOL.

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[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
I saw this add and just lost it.

http://www.trunkmonkeyad.com/4wmv.htm

Clean humor good enough for children.

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[angie0401]

Dave,
angie0401,
you'd have to adopt my wife too,we're an inseparable pair.
We think of ourselves as one person in Christ.
Not that that detracts from our individuality.

I understand completely - that's how hubby and I feel about each other. I love my children with all my heart, but I feel like something is missing when hubby isn't here with me. I used to tell him that, even though I enjoyed being with the kids, my day didn't start until 5:30 (when he gets home).

You're mean,unfair and unreasonable to expect sensibility from a teen.
We are REALLY unfair because we also expect them to save up for their own car and then pay their own insurance. I am absolutely in the minority in the parent circle with that "unreasonable" demand! That's ok - I know they will thank me one day....right???

I used to get quite a laugh from the wild excuses and explanations I got from my kids.
I think one that goes across all generations is "I got a bad grade because my teacher _____" - the excuse varies, but it always starts the same.

I remember when my daughter came running up crying (when she was about 6) and when I asked her what was wrong she said, "Momma, brother hit me back."

Kids definitely teach you as much as you teach them.

[smyrna]

Angie wrote: "However, I think that some things like a detractor pooper scooper will be a necessity for some of them."

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

Pooper scoopers for detractors are by necessity very large and powerful machines. You may know them by another name: Bulldozers.

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
LOL Angie,
"I don't know" is another classic answer for just about everything.

Why did you do that?
I don't know.
Who started it?
I don't know.

What do you know?
I don't know.
And the story goes on and on.
LMAO

Then there's the blank stare,,,,,,,,,,,.
0,0
-o-

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[angie0401]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif smyrna http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif Dave http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Badah boom !

A Sunday school teacher was discussing the Ten Commandments with her five and six year olds. After explaining the commandment to "honor thy father and thy mother," she asked "Is there a commandment that teaches us how to treat our brothers and sisters?"

Without missing a beat one little boy answered, "Thou shall not kill."

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[david_munson]

}}
Tie Discipline

A school teacher injured his back and had to wear a plaster cast around the upper part of his body. It fit under his shirt and was not noticeable at all. On the first day of the term, still with the cast under his shirt, he found himself assigned to the toughest students in school.

Walking confidently into the rowdy classroom, he opened the window as wide as possible and then busied himself with desk work. The classroom became a bit unruly and he admonished them. This happened several times.

When he could do work at his desk, the strong breeze from the window made his tie flap annoyingly. He kept rearranging and rearranging the tie as the class raised it's level of unruliness.

Finally, becoming disgusted with the wayward tie, he stood up and took a big stapler off his desk and stapled the tie to his chest in several places.

Discipline was not a problem from that day forth.

[skooter942000]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[fullofquestions]

lol

[bear]

Since there is a shortage of detractors, I am willing to volunteer until the program is in full swing.

I am willing to be used as the "test dummy detractor" to ensure the kinks are worked out. I am willing to travel in order to give all a test run with a "trial detractor" to ensure quality, and to help in the decision process. The question of "Will my detractor work out with my busy schedule" will be answered.

Because of the gas prices, I will have to charge $.50 per mile for my mileage.

[fullofquestions]

what tha

[angie0401]

Because of the gas prices, I will have to charge $.50 per mile for my mileage.
I thought the new gov't mandated rate was only 47.5 cents/mile, but I am willing to pay it.
I think that is a wonderful idea bear! It would so great to have a "test detractor" - you rock!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Quote:I think that is a wonderful idea bear! It would so great to have a "test detractor" - you rock!

I second that Angie! Bear, you would be a great "test detractor". At least with you we wouldn't be stuck on one verse and I'm sure the conversation would be much more stimulating than with the average detractor. You're able to keep Jesus' geneology straight.http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

(David, I don't include you in the "detractor" category. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif )

Peace,
Ter</font>

[fullofquestions]

That right there is funny

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
I think that some of you SC folks need to learn how to keep your cat clean.(yes ,a real cat)
So, I have taken on the job of teaching you this method that is very effective.
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HOW TO CLEAN A CAT

1. Thoroughly clean the toilet.

2. Add the required amount of shampoo to the toilet water, and have both lids lifted.

3. Obtain the cat and soothe him while you carry him towards the bathroom.

4. In one smooth movement, put the cat in the toilet and close both lids (you may need to stand on the lid so that he cannot escape). CAUTION: Do not get any part of your body too close to the edge, as his paws will be reaching out for any thing they can find.

5. Flush the toilet three or four times. This provides a “power wash and rinse” which I have found to be quite effective.

6. Have someone open the door to the outside and ensure that there are no people between the toilet and the outside door.

7. Stand behind the toilet as far as you can, and quickly lift both lids.

8. The now-clean cat will rocket out of the toilet, and run outside where he will dry himself.

Sincerely, A DOG
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Before I get jumped on for hating cats,I have one and he is a very nice although troublesome little guy.

LOL
Dave
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[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">HI David,

lol I got that email a few days ago. I and my son were really laughing. lol We have 3 cats and I could just picture them bolting out of the toilet..lol</font>

[godchild]

So ter, why don't you explain to us how you are a "part Jew" and a "real Jew". lol What are you, ter? One of those "mongrels am talks to you about"? Oh sorry. I guess you were talking about cats, weren't you. Cats can be mongrels too. ha-ha!

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font></font>}
I asked Jesus just how much he really Loved all of you and He
spread His arms wide and said ,
"this much."

Scenes from the Cross

Dave

(edited for spelling)


(Message edited by David Munson on January 18, 2007)

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Above all powers
above all kings
above all nature and all created things
above all wisdom and all the ways of man
You where here before the world began

Above all kingdoms
above all thrones
above all wonders the world has ever known
above all wealth and treasures of the earth
there's no way to measure what you're worth

Crucified and laid behind a stone
you lived to die rejected and alone
like a rose trampled on the ground
you took the fall and thought of me above all.

---
Psalms 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.
Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
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[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Good Morning David,

I enjoyed reading those verses. Thank you.

gochild, all I can say is that I'm praying for you.</font>

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Just as I made this post the wiring in my home lit up like a christmas tree.
I almost just lost my home.
Praise the Lord though because it put me in a position to fix two problems at once.

1.My stupidity.
(this should have been done last fall)
and
2.A hole in the floor where a beam has broken through allowing cold air to enter the house.
It's just a temp fix so please keep us in prayer.

God is faithful isn't he?

Dave
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[angie0401]

Dave,
I'm really glad you are ok and that nothing happened that can't be fixed. I will definitely keep you and your family in prayer.

And yes, God is faithful.
Angie

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Thanks Angie and God bless,
dave
</font>}

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">HI Dave,

I'm glad you're ok.

Quote:
Praise the Lord though because it put me in a position to fix two problems at once.

1.My stupidity.
(this should have been done last fall)
and
2.A hole in the floor where a beam has broken through allowing cold air to enter the house.
It's just a temp fix so please keep us in prayer.

God is faithful isn't he?

Yes, God is faithful. I'm always amazed at how God will show us a problem which needs our attention while attending to another problem. It truly is a blessing.

I will keep you in prayer.

Peace,
Ter</font>

[yaqakallah]

Good to hear all is well with you and your home David.

yes, God is awesome indeed!!!!

[godchild]

abiyah (abiyah)
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 9:00 pm:

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Hi there Try to be Objective !

Hmmmmm ? Interesting question, may I ask why you ask ? The meaning of Jew either means of the Tribe of Judah or can also mean a resident of Judea, by geographical location. Example, let's say if I resided in Jamaica, I'd be a Jamaican, but only by geographical location. We know that Israel has 12 Tribes, one of the 12 Tribes is the Tribe of Judah, we know that the House of Israel [= Which includes the 10 Northern Tribes of Israel] were taken into captivity to the Assyrians, while the House of Judah [= Which includes the 2 Southern Tribes, that being the Tribe Judah &amp; the Tribe of Benjamin] were taken into capitvity to Babylonia.

So on that note, you can NOT put all 12 Tribes of Israel into 1 Tribe; so many try and classify ALL 12 Tribes of Israel as "Jews"; However All 12 Tribes WILL NOT FIT into just the Tribe of Judah, it just won't fit. Also, we know that the 10 Northern Tribes of Israel following their captivity to the Assyrians, MOST migrated over the Caucasus Mountains, later called caucasians, these settled Europe, to even later England, and to this nation, America. Ephriam is identified with England, while Manasseh is identified with America. May I suggest an excellent book to you regarding the 12 Tribes of Israel, that includes Judah, as I said before Judah is merely 1 of 12 Tribes, this book would probably better answer your questions, it's called the Abrahamic Covenant, by E. Raymond Capt, you will enjoy it !

Also, we know that God created " ALL " the human races on the sixth day, male &amp; female created he them [ Genesis chapter 1] THEN HE RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY, and on the "eighth day" He formed "the" Adam. [ This 8th day Adam/man has the article in front of his name, which distinguishes him from the 6th day Adam/man]. "The" man Adam, from the "eighth day" creation is a special man, because Christ, the Messiah, our Lord Jesus Christ would come through this 8th day lineage, from unbiblical cord to unbiblical cord. "The" Adam has the article in front of his name "the" man; do you know what Adam means in the Hebrew ? It means ruddy complected, or to show red or blood in the face, like.... ya know..... when you get embarrassed, or even I have a friend, who is a red head, and she is kinda reddish, with freckles. Remember king David, he was a red head, and he was of the Tribe of Judah. And no, I am not saying that all of Judah has red hair..lol lol lol' however, I think it gives you an idea of what race the Israelites were [ that would include the Tribe of Judah], if they came from Adam &amp; Eve, they'd be Adamic, and I told you what Adam means, to show blood in the face, ruddy complected.

Actually Try to be, I find it very important to find true archeological scholars, such as E. Raymond Capt that can give you a greater understanding to where those 10 Lost Tribes went and settled. And this my friend will give a better understanding to your question. You see God told the children of Israel, that He would scatter them, although they are not really lost because God knows where they are, and one day "ALL" 12 Tribes will be joined together again, The house of Judah &amp; The house of Israel. May the Grace of our Lord be with you; and hey, thanks for listening, I hoped that helped a little to answer your question.

Abiyah

[yaqakallah]

Thanks for the re-post of Abiyah. 100% biblical and also proven historically.

Whats your point, to discredit her? Anyone who has STUDIED God's word knows that her post is true.

[godchild]

For true info on British Israelite E.Raymond Capt's book about Jeremiah going to Ireland, read this article:

http://www.biblemysteries.com/library/jeremiah.htm

am/sc recommends Capt and Allen to his students.

[godchild]

Rigel isa type of Messiah's victory, having “crushed the enemy”. The missing pyramids in the Giza / Orion analogy demonstrate that this mirror of heaven on earth represents the Messiah’s work of redemption at His first coming, but not the future completion of Christ's work when He comes in Judgment of the whole earth. The Giza structures were placed in complete agreement with the Gospel narrative in the stars by God’s design, consistant with monumental typology -- perhaps in the future God will raise the two missing pyramids symbolizing the setting up of His Kingdom on earth. The existing numberof Giza pyramids representing Orion is 5, the number of grace. With the setting up of the remaining two, the number is 7, symbolizing “completion”.
While the Giza plateau pyramids refer to Orion and allude to Christ's Second Coming, the Great Pyramid of Giza is a tangible fulfillment of prophecy in itself:

Isaiah19:19
In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord
in the midst of Egypt, and a monument at the
border there of to the Lord. And it shall be for
a sign,and a witness to the Lord of Hosts in
the land of Egypt.
This passage describes the location of the great Pyramid exactly. The Pyramid sits inthe center of Egypt and on the border of upper and lower Egypt.(E. Raymond Capt, The Great Pyramid Decoded p.12 ) During the millennium, either the Great Pyramid will either have to be moved for this "monument" to be set up, or, the Great Pyramid is this monument. If this fact is not convincing enough of the scriptural significance of this structure, consider the following; When the Hebrew letters from Isaiah 19:19 describing the Lord's monument are added together, the sum is 5,449. This is the exact height, in inches, of the Great Pyramid. These inches are the standard of linear measurement encoded within the Great Pyramid itself.(E. Raymond Capt, The Great Pyramid Decoded p.59)
Jesus described the cap stone or cornerstone, which is missing from Great Pyramid, as a symbol of Himself...

[smyrna]

Hey Kim, yes, it looks like Godchild/Vivian Hetherton Hadden either has finally decided that Bullinger is a world class scholar, as is E. Raymond Capt.

But, since she is being fair, she also offers alternative viewpoints.

I think these flashes of lucidity, coupled with her very bizarre behavior, are maybe an indication that she is kind of "shaky", if you know what I mean.

[yaqakallah]

That last post of her's is interesting. It's been a while, but I saw a documentary which included the very same thing. Amaging! It also spoke of the dimensions of the New Jerusalem as given in the Book of Revelation. They put the data into the computer and you know what? They came up with a pyramid!!!

[godchild]

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif Are you suggesting that because something is on a documentary, it's true?

If that's what you think, you should read this:

Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends is a television documentary series, in which Louis Theroux gives viewers the chance to get brief glimpses of things they wouldn't normally come into contact with. In most cases this means interviewing people with extreme beliefs of some kind, or just generally belonging to subcultures not known to exist by most or just frowned upon. It was first shown in the UK on BBC2.

"Weird Weekends sets out to discover the genuinely odd in the most ordinary setting. To me, it’s almost a privilege to be welcomed into these communities and to shine a light on them and, maybe, through my enthusiasm, to get people to reveal more of themselves than they may have intended." Louis Theroux, taken from an unofficial website

[edit] Episodes
The episode titles here are taken from DVD releases of the show in the UK, and may differ from the US versions, which were titled 'Louis Theroux's America'.


[edit] UFOs
This episode follows several people who believe in UFOs. One of these is a man called Thor Templar, the self titled "Lord Commander of the Earth Protectorate". He claims to have killed more than ten aliens by chopping their heads off.

Originally aired on the 22nd of January 1998


[edit] Other episodes
Black Nationalism
Bodybuilders
Christianity
Demolition Derby
Survivalists /Head For The Hills
India: Enlightenment
Infomercials
Looking for Love
Off-Off Broadway
Hypnosis/Self-Fulfilment
Televangelists
Thai Brides
South Africa/White supremacists
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I'm sorry, that's just too funny!

[skooter942000]

<font color="aa00aa"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font><font size="+1">Pro 11:5 The righteousness of the perfect shall
direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by
his own wickedness.


Pro 11:6 The righteousness of the upright
shall deliver them: but transgressors shall
be taken in [their own] naughtiness.


Pro 11:7 ¶ When a wicked man dieth, [his]
expectation shall perish: and the hope of
unjust [men] perisheth.


Pro 11:8 The righteous is delivered out of
trouble, and the wicked cometh in his stead.
</font></font>

[franklin]

So by posting those scriptures, skooter, are you predicting what we all know will happen, God's will, that arnie's evil house of cards and his false serpent seed heresy will collapse and be rendered unto the scrap heap of history? For surely the serpent seed heresy is wicked as well as those who preach it. Surely God will not let this evil hatred of racism and false accusations against the Jews stand. We are all praying to the true God for that day!

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">godchild said: So ter, why don't you explain to us how you are a "part Jew" and a "real Jew". lol What are you, ter? One of those "mongrels am talks to you about"? Oh sorry. I guess you were talking about cats, weren't you. Cats can be mongrels too. ha-ha!

Hmmmm, I bet it just irks her that I'm part Jewish, of Judah. She doesn't know what to do with it...lolololol

Hey Angie, If you adopt her, you are going to have your work cut out! I have a nice white coat you can use when your detractor becomes unruly..lol

Signed,
Mongrel</font> http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[angie0401]

godchild said: So ter, why don't you explain to us how you are a "part Jew" and a "real Jew". lol What are you, ter? One of those "mongrels am talks to you about"?

Oh, ter, I almost forgot about this. That is very, very racist, isn't it? Calling someone a mongrel because of their heritage? OHHH that is not nice. It really makes me so angry when people call others names because of their ethnicity. Racists make me sick! UGH

Hey Angie, If you adopt her, you are going to have your work cut out!
I'm up for the challenge - she seems kinda smitten with me already, wanting to know all about me and everything, so I think it will work out just fine. And we do share a love for parakeets, so that's a good starting point. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Hi Angie,

Quote:
Oh, ter, I almost forgot about this. That is very, very racist, isn't it? Calling someone a mongrel because of their heritage?

Yes Angie, that is a racist comment, calling me a mongrel because of my heritage. But my husband said not to worry, that I'm a purebred mongrel...part Jewish, part English, part Irish and what have you. You name it, I probably have it..lol

A mongrel...sheesh, that's not very nice. I don't even call my mixed breed dogs...mongrels.

You're right Angie, what she said was very very racist orrrrr antisemtic. I'm not sure which category it falls into...lololol

Hey Angie, yes she does seem kind of smitten with you. Gosh, she's following you all over the place. That must make you feel special. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

Signed,
Mongrel...lolololol (that just gives me a good chuckle..lol</font>

[sharon]

Skooter, nice. God Bless you. It is sad by many will fall by their own wickedness. But Jesus will lift them up again. Still it is better not to hit that brick wall if it can be avoided.

Pastor Murray and his gun waving was a message from the Lord for those who do not see the truth. He is giving a gift of seeing the truth. But many will still deny it as they do not want to see. I can understand that, truth is hard, and sometimes ugly. But the difference between Jesus and Murray is clear, Jesus does not wave guns in a room full of innocent people to get control. And he did not fear men, and told us not to, but fear our Father in heaven.
His God is to small to protect him. I need no gun, nor a weapon of any kind as my Father is with me, so who can stand against me? Who should I fear? There is not a man on earth who can harm one hair on my head without my Fathers blessing. And if I am to suffer such then it is the will of my Father. So if I know this, who does not? Where is Mr Murrays faith? And love?

Can you preach of Jesus and not know him? OR follow him. He healed the man Peter hurt, and rebuked Peter. But I guess Mr Murray did not read that part of the bible, kind of got stuck in the garden and forgot what Jesus said.
If your child was sitting in that room would it still be a reason to laugh? He did not wave a gun around to make us believers happy, he did it for those who could not see who he was, and some will now know the truth.

[smyrna]

Abyiah,

Guys like Dodge don't have much of a conscience.
What you have to say to him won't phase him in the least. People that are emotionally disturbed and living in a fantasy land are not influenced by reality.

Dodge will keep up his poor imitation of a puerile radio shock jock as long as his excitement level will allow him. Then, after he realizes we are sufficiently bored with his act, he'll exit, stage left.

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Bumping this thread because it's too funny to let it drop too far down.</font> http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

[scisthebest]

lol..terluvire..i missed ya too and was thinkin of ya too..missin your posts lol

[terluvire]

<font color="0000ff">Why thank you SC...lol I do have a blast here! lol Our pet detractors give us lots of material to work with. http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif

When I have more time, I'll be posting more. Lately, I've been pretty busy.

Good to see you SC!</font>

[scisthebest]

good to see you too frankies been riding my behind for no reason lol...but oh well you know i try to keep open minded and keep the cup half full but you know how it goes you still get accused lol

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Smyrna,
don't be decietful,she was asked a question about musicals by Gracie.

That is not diversion.
It's responce.

http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/happy.gif
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[smyrna]

Hey Munsun,

It took you quite some time to respond to a post I wrote on May 22nd, and in jest too, I guess you didn't get it.

Of course, you have nothing to say about scisthebest's comment about how Frankie has been riding him for no reason.

Are you regressing, Dave?

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
No Smyrna,
I just don't follow men's directions as to what I should respond to or not respond to.

You are not the first to suggest I do this or that.

I see more than what's on the surface my friend.
We are provided with eyes that are not flesh.
Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

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[smyrna]

I wasn't suggesting anything, Dave. Actually, I was mainly commenting on your timely response.

It's just funny that you skipped over SC's lament about Frankie, while chiding me about something that happened way back in May!

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Smyrna,
do you really want to go there?

All I have to do is refer to the many posts that drag on and on about the "he said she said" for months and months now.

The constant reposting of who said what in whatever post is dragged from the mud to dispute the character of the other folk involved.

You ought to pay more attention to what you say.
It can very easily come back to haunt you like the way you tried to tag me so erroneously about the Angels joke I made.
Which by the way you tried to claim I was serious about by leaving off the part that put it into the context I gave it.

You my friend are out of your element.

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[smyrna]

Hey Dave,

I pay plenty of attention to what I say, and I also remember quite a bit about what others say.

I couldn't tell you how many times our pets have been impeached by going back to old posts where they claimed the exact opposite from what they claim presently.


Also, it serves the purpose of showing they never answered critical questions, never proved their allegations, and also to bring up other important points.

Simple Examples:

Stage Director claims she is a woman, but before she claimed she was a man. Frankie claimed he is black, now white, and now a white "german/gaelic"

Godchild said she was trying to "make the light of Christ shine through her more", but then utters the most vile things probably ever to have been allowed on these threads.

Frankie calls us racists for months,but you'd be hard pressed to find any SCer calling white folks "lily white a$$ed honkies" or using the term "mongrel" towards the detractors, etc.

It is a good tool, to go back to prior posts, especially when those who wrote them have never apologized for those transgressions, and are actually growing more evil by the day.

[jeff_franklin]

uh, I am white and am a lilly white axxed honkie myself.

But you are a Jew hating racist, no doubt.

And so far as gc and the word mongrel..... that is what terluvire called herself and you know that honkie!

You distort and take out of context the word of Christians. You distort and take out of context the word of God.

[godchild]

Thank you, franklin. I refuse to stoop to smyrna's level. Let him continue to rant. He has become a bore by repeating the same boo-hoos. Even his own buddies don't respond to him any longer. Ah, wait. Do I hear the pitter-patter of ter or abi? That's good. They have lost their credibility even at the fig tree. Maybe hearing they are troublemakers by their own finally made the truth sink in. Peace, little figs! http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/lol.gif

[stage_director]

QUOTE
Stage Director claims she is a woman, but before she claimed she was a man
END QUOTE

I never claimed to be a man. I simply didn't correct what you ASSumed. ;-)

[smyrna]

Yes, that is true, but by not immediately correcting me, which of course is merely 'netiquette' you therefore implied by your silence that I was correct.

So, by doing so you intentionally deceived,which of course is no new thing for you to do.

That is just like Frankie, claiming he is black, then white, and now white "german/gaelic."

Now nobody knows, even though you claim he is white, even though you have no way of knowing that for sure, unless he is your next door neighbor or something.(just another way of showing you are not credible)

It's this kind of stuff that does nothing to earn you points for credibility, which of course works for us, since as many times as we can show you are not credible, the less value your posts have here.

My comments here are actually quite anachronistic, since you have long ago completely destroyed your own credibility, at least in the eyes of people who have been reading here for some time.

Do we really need to go through all the unsubstantiated allegations you have made again?

You can deny all you want, but if anyone wants proof, all they have to do is read what you've already written here.

It's not just the allegations either. The clearly evasive tactics you have displayed over and over are valid testimony to the fact that you are dishonest, have no credibility, and of course, are quite arrogant, all of which has worked against you.

You are your own worst enemy.

[david_munson]

<font color="000000"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font>
Like I said.

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[smyrna]

Hey Dave,

You may not see value in what I have to say, but my points are valid.

The detractors have proven time and again they are not credible, even when it comes to the simplest things, such as their gender or race.

In the case of Stage Director, Frankie, and Godchild, it is very clear they have no problem making things up completely out of thin air, and if you wish to dispute that, then I'll be forced to provide evidence in the form of their own words.

Now maybe you have spent too much time arguing with Watchman to know what has occurred outside of that over time, but this is certainly true.

And I'm not even addressing the outrageous view- points of Biblical topics by these three stooges, which ironically to any outsider would be perceived as just as outlandish as anything that these detractors would equally see as so on the part of SC students.

One must ask: if these stooges believe they are so correct, why all the trickery, deceptions, outright lies, and other tactics? Why do they feel the need to do such things?

And if you wish to deny they are guilty of this, then you definitely have not been reading.

[smyrna]

Hey Godchild, I see that you have plenty of time to make you snide remarks, and cheer your fellow goofball Frankie, but you still can't provide evidence that there has ever existed a non-white tribe of Israel, that would be accepted by modern Rabbis, and other interested parties.

And this is because you can't.

Now this is a subject you brought up, by claiming I was a racist in believing that there never was such a tribe or tribes.

Furthermore, I did find out though, that your claim (by implication) that there was, is a product of your Mormon upbringing, for they claimed (in the past) that the American Indians were descendants of the Hebrew tribes.

So you can waste your time on this thread, and leave that little task uncompleted, but that will work for me, not you.

[godchild]

Since when do you listen to rabbis? You are such a fool! You think because we don't answer to your stupid and farfetched suppositions that you are correct? Oh my!

YOU are the one who said the tribes of Israel are white, not me, dunce. You prove they are! I don't have to prove it. If you had the intelligence you claim (and that's a laugh), you would know that intellectuals do not even use the word "white" to describe peoples. You will not find that word in the bible to describe peoples. You are such a fool, wading around in the cesspool you call your mind.

You are so ignorant about the mormon beliefs. The funny thing is, I left that church because I realized its false teachings. The teachings you accept from am/sc are exactly parallel to them. (What an idiot!) I had already learned a great deal of am's similar teachings before you were born, boy. They are false! Now, unless you plan to embrace the mormon religion, I suggest you do a thorough study before opening your yap. For one, you are wrong: the front page of their current bom still states: The Book of Mormon is a sacred record of peoples in ancient America, and was engraved upon sheets of metal. The only reason men like murray don't join with this cult is, he wants the power for himself. He's another wannabee prophet just like js was, that's all. A few ignorants, out of the billions in this world, fall for it/into it.

[godchild]

It seemed to get under abi's skin that you all get your receipts for tithing to am/sc with "Soldiers of the Cross" on it, not sc. How does it feel to have written proof continually that you are funding a neo-nazi communist group? Talk about "the mark of the beast". You all have been getting it good, haven't you? Signed, sealed and delivered. satan, I imagine, is very pleased with himself. No, not even he gives two figs about you. (Should I post the copies here, before or after you call me a liar?) Your warnings to those silly children fell on deaf ears, did it not. Ha-ha-ha!

[godchild]

Why don't you share what am teaches? (from the season)

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Hi Figs,
I thought I should place this question in here.I was listening to the SC Gen.ch.1-6 tapes recently and I have a question. Pastor Murray said that he would not debate it but that he was thinking maybe the Orientals might have been the first humans in this earth age.He brought it up at vs.1:20 I believe.He mentioned that they live off the water,meaning their rice and fish.He also stated that their history went way further than ours.I was wondering if any of you seasoned Figs have studied this and how you would go about studying it.Any help or input will be appreciated.
Agape,Laura Jo
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What do you think, smyrna? Is he right, according to your last post; or wrong? http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/rofl.gif

[smyrna]

I really don't know how you can even relate your comments to my last post, which has nothing to do with establishing what people were created first. The Adamic race was created on the eight day.

I've heard Murray state that he thinks the "Sinoids" or "Mongoloids" (not Murray's terms, they are Anthropological terms)had a history going way back before the writtren history of the other races.

But that has NOTHING to do with the race of Abraham/David.(formed on the 8th day)

If you don't know this by now, even if you don't agree, it has clearly been stated time after time here at Factnet. Why do you continue to act as if you never heard it?

So my question remains unaswered: do you, or do you not, have proof that a Rabbi would accept, that there were non-white Israelite tribes?

If not, I was correct all along. (Which I am)

It was YOUR issue, YOU raised it, so the burden is on you, unless you want to continue to play silly games.

[stage_director]

On the 7th day God rested from all he had created. That means if it wasn't created on the 6th day or earlier ... it ain't here.

[smyrna]

Stage Director, That is NOT the issue, and you know it. Can't you read?:

"But that has NOTHING to do with the race of Abraham/David.(formed on the 8th day)"

"If you don't know this by now, ****even if you don't agree,***.".....

The issue is based upon SC teachings why do you have to act so stupid? Do you WANT people to think you are that stupid?

Once more: Find a Rabbi, find an accepted academic opinion, (that a Rabbi will accept) that proves there are non-white Israelites tribes.

That's the issue, that is the question that is what Godchild brought up, now both you idiots deliberately tried to snake out of facing that question, so if you want to leave it at that, then hey, do so.

But this game of playing stupid, (even if it ain't no game)is not doing you any good.

Prediction: There will be no answer, just more diversions, snide remarks, etc.

And I LOVE it! LOL!

[stage_director]

lol If we had a contest for the "smarts" department, sport ... I'd seriously be surprised if anyone other than another Shep Chap'ler thought you more intelligent than me. Actually, I don't think you'd be near the top if the only ones judging and competing were you students. Matter of fact, I can only think of one of you who might vie for last place. ;-)

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Prediction: There will be no answer, just more diversions, snide remarks, etc.

And I LOVE it! LOL!
END QUOTE

Well, of course you do. That's my whole point about you. These things are what you thrive on. Add "ad hominems" to the list and we have all of Smyrna in a nutshell.

[smyrna]

"Prediction: There will be no answer, just more diversions, snide remarks, etc."

Smyrna: I'm right again. Yes, I do thrive on reducing you to just heckling and evading the important issues.

It is so sophomoric for someone to attack the messnager when they are unable to attack the message.

You have now done it here, and you just did it on the Arnie and Smearna's Racist Remarks thread.

What's there not to love about that? You have been totally discredited, you refuse to admit your lies, false accusations, and when you are asked questions about the very issues you and your comrades claim to know all about,it's clear to anyone that you are "finis."

Of course, you deny that, and that's cool because you'll still be around to play with.

Our little detractor pets are so nice to us!

LOL!

[david_munson]

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Smyrna,
I see value in people no matter what they might say and,,,
yes I have been reading but there's not much chicken on the bones so to speak.

Lots of bones though.
Not just you either.(to be fair there's bones enough from most)
Yet if one looks closely enough there is gleaning to be had.(though meager gleanings at best)LOL

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[smyrna]

"I see value in people no matter what they might say and"...

Smyrna: Me too Dave. Our pet detractors, no matter what they say, are a constant source of entertainment.

It took us a while to whittle them down to this present valuable collection: Frankie, Godchild, and Stage Detractor.

Yes, it is true there are a few other detractors, like Oneway and Arron, but they just aren't very exciting for the most part.

But, for fun let's include them in the list.

So this is what we have left, basically in our collection of FN SC detractors:

A bunch of ranting and raving lunatics, who have been impeached over and over, caught red handed lying, deliberately misrepresenting SC teachings, the list of silly shenanigans is quite long.

If these five cyber-clowns think they can successfully destroy the SC, and prove their allegations,they are deceiving themselves, which is no new thing.

Now watching them try is great sport, and playing with them is much better than TV, so that's why I'm still hanging out here.

Notice I didn't include you, Dave. I've grown to actually like you, despite our differences. And that is because you appear not to be in that classless group.

Yes, I remember the "misunderstanding" of a couple of weeks ago, but really, we all have our bad days.

Have a good day, Mr. Munsun.

[oneway]

"Notice I didn't include you, Dave. I've grown to actually like you, despite our
differences. And that is because you appear not to be in that classless group."

You sure have that http://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gifkissinghttp://www.factnet.org/discus/clipart/kiss.gif up to people thing down pat when you feel the need, lol.

[smyrna]

Sorry Whichway,

But even Dave will tell you we have had a pretty good relationship here for many months now.

I'm not "kissing up" to him any more than he does to me.

I just respect the fact that he doesn't engage in the same shenanigans as the "three stooges."

As for you, I sometimes wonder if you have some maladay like multiple personality disorder, or at the very least, bi-polar.

I actually hesitated a moment before including you along with those who inhabit one ring each of their three ring cyber-circus,(because on your good days you can be almost normal) but now I feel a bit better about it.

Why? Because by all indications, today ain't one of those days.

[oneway]

"I actually hesitated a moment before including you along with those who inhabit one ring
each of their three ring cyber-circus,(because on your good days you can be almost
normal) but now I feel a bit better about it."

Actually you're the one who brings these bad days as you call them, out in me. I usually get this way whenever you write something about me, lol.
So no, I'm not bi-polar.. just sometimes a little anti-smyrna, that's all. But all in fun tho, never in anger.

[stage_director]

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As for you, I sometimes wonder if you have some maladay like multiple personality disorder, or at the very least, bi-polar.
END QUOTE

Your comments are so out there and ridiculous ... it would be almost funny if it weren't so feeble.

[smyrna]

Look like Stage Director is quite at ease just going to threads she where she doesn't have to face challenges to her assinine comments, and once again be reduced to a heckler.

I love that!

[jeff_franklin]

smearna/smeagle has reduced itself to a Jew hating racist admirer of Hitler.

[stage_director]

Oh Smyrna ... the problem isn't me not being able to answer and/or debunk anything you might have to say ... It's that you probably need to invest in either remedial reading lessons or glasses. You, sport, are in no position to call anybody else here a "heckler." You are the chief of all hecklers on this forum. FOR A FACT.

Wow, I guess I stand corrected. There IS a category you win in.

[smyrna]

I just love it when Stage Director deliberately denies the obvious, and also tries to shift the focus of discussions away from the fact she can't answer questions she implies she knows the answers to.

You want to talk about facts, okay, here goes:

Fact: Stage Director already has conceded she doesn't know the answer to who "reigns" as referred to in Revelation 5:10. She now claims it's the "priests" but the other questions were who they reign over, and HOW they are chosen to reign over them. Being "meek and humble" won't cut it.

Fact: Stage Detractor never has successfully refuted the evidence that shows that Ruth was indeed an Israelite. In her mind, she thinks that attacking another page on a website that contains proof Ruth was Israelite is defined as a refutation. Foolishness.

Fact: Stage Director has a list of allegations she has never provided evidence for. Therefore, she cannot debunk any claims that those allegations are nothing but empty rumors fabricated by her.

Fact: Stage Detractor "twists and perverts" Scripture, claiming that the sin in Eden was "seeking knowledge" and that the "land of Nod" is a "state of being."

Fact: Stage Director wants readers to think she loses arguments with SC students. It is a fact that she has lost a great many of them. The only ones left are those that are ongoing.

[stage_director]

Smyrna's delusional thinking: Stage Director already has conceded she doesn't know the answer to who "reigns" as referred to in Revelation 5:10.

Smyrna's need for glasses: Stage Detractor never has successfully refuted the evidence that shows that Ruth was indeed an Israelite.

Smyrna's wish: Stage Director has a list of allegations she has never provided evidence for.

Smyrna's lack of biblical literacy: Stage Detractor "twists and perverts" Scripture,

Smyrna's lie to himself: Stage Director wants readers to think she loses arguments with SC students.

[smyrna]

Smyrna's delusional thinking: Stage Director already has conceded she doesn't know the answer to who "reigns" as referred to in Revelation 5:10.

Smyrna: May I refer to the August 8th through 11th posts from the Cultblunder's Shepherd's Chapel Thread. Therein you will read, in context, how S_D came to say: "Smyrna, while I'm still undecided on exactly how it works "...

Yes, she now has offered an attempt to answer, but it doesn't jive with the other questions that went along with it.

S_D: "Stage Detractor never has successfully refuted the evidence that shows that Ruth was indeed an Israelite."

Smyrna: No, you haven't. All you did was try and distract from the issue by blasting the publisher of the website I offered that held the proof,citing his work on Esther, not Ruth. You call that refutation?

S_D: "Smyrna's wish: Stage Director has a list of allegations she has never provided evidence for."

My wish has been granted many times. Here's a few rumors S_D wrote which she never provided evidence for:

She claimed five planes were owned by the SC, she only showed records for two, then tried to weasel out of it by saying "they must have sold some."

Claimed one of Pastor Murray's sons is a drunk. She never even gave a name, much less any way to verify this.

Claimed there is an ongoing investigation re SC finances. No evidence, just some old news articles crap about ministries in general.

Claimed that Murray keep all the money donated to the Chapel. No evidence provided.

There's much more.

S_D: "Smyrna's lack of biblical literacy: Stage Detractor "twists and perverts" Scripture,

Smyrna: maybe you can ask Frankie if he believes
the sin in the Garden was "seeking knowledge" of if the land of Nod is merely a "state of being."

Unless he will agree with you, he's giving you a pass, rather than accusing you of "twisting and perverting" Scripture.

S_D wrote: "Smyrna's lie to himself: Stage Director wants readers to think she loses arguments with SC students."

Smyrna: Show me where I said you wanted readers to think you lose arguments with SC students. I do, however, wish you did. It would be closer to the truth.

[stage_director]

Give it a rest. Don't even talk to me unless you have something to say that actually sounds like it's from an adult and on topic. If I wanted to hear childish conversation I'd go play with small children. I grow weary of this silliness ...

[stage_director]

Smyrna,

Re your post #3194

Ad hominem

1. appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect

2. marked by an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

[smyrna]

Excuse me, but my post #3194 was a direct response to your use of Ad Hominem in your post #547.

And because of that, I can add that your character is not the only issue, because it is clear you are evading contention, and thus your use of the charge of me using ad hominem is merely your own use of another silly tactic:

anticategoria or, Tu Quoque

[stage_director]

Quo usque tandem abutere patentia nostra?

[smyrna]

As long as you abuse mine.