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earnestseeker
06-01-2008, 12:42 AM
Hello everyone....anyone want an email conversation?
I just came out of Rose Creek Village a couple of months ago....they did not like my personality...they like very submissive women or whatever and I did not fit into their box.
Anyway me and my family are struggling to find new jobs, etc. here in Phoenix...
God is providing for us although it is scary...we have two sons...five and eight....and we have seven hundred dollars in the bank.
I have a job starting Monday...hopefully we can squeak by...staying in a motel by the week in Phoenix.
We just lived at RCV for about nine months....they seemed to help us with some things....it seems like they have God to some degree...part of me wishes so much we could go back. But it is their way or the highway...they would not allow us to live outside the village and still partake of activities when my mental health started deteriorating.....
They have grown recently and I think this has had a big impact on how they treat people now.....anyway enough of them.
They are a very tiny part of the world. And God still loves me right where I am. I am lonely today and a little depressed but I plan on going to church in the morning and I am starting to tell myself I should start going to "Adult Children of Alcoholics" meetings.
I love God...He is with me...I can live for God outside of RCV. God loves me. God has forgiven me. God's mercies are new every morning...God will supply all my needs. I am thankful for my health, for my needs being met, for my healthy children and my loving husband. This is nothing.
We will be fine....soon I will start my new job and God will be with me there as I minister to the needs of my patients. He is blessing me with the highest paying job I have ever had. I will continue to mature and will endeavor to be a blessing to others.
When I make a mistake or fall I will reach out to God. I will endeavor to listen to Godly music and fill my soul with the Word of God. I will keep reaching out socially, endeavoring to make positive christian friends.
God will help me reshape my personality. God is more powerful than we can imagine.
Life will not always be perfect but God is still there. God loves the village and He is able to do His work in them. God loves my family...He is able to raise me and my husband up.
Praise the Mighty name of the Lord. Praise His Mighty Works....
Please email me...I would love to talk with you.....
God Bless you,
Earnestseeker:)
bramble
06-01-2008, 01:50 AM
Hello everyone....anyone want an email conversation?
I just came out of Rose Creek Village a couple of months ago....they did not like my personality...they like very submissive women or whatever and I did not fit into their box.
Anyway me and my family are struggling to find new jobs, etc. here in Phoenix...
God is providing for us although it is scary...we have two sons...five and eight....and we have seven hundred dollars in the bank.
I have a job starting Monday...hopefully we can squeak by...staying in a motel by the week in Phoenix.
We just lived at RCV for about nine months....they seemed to help us with some things....it seems like they have God to some degree...part of me wishes so much we could go back. But it is their way or the highway...they would not allow us to live outside the village and still partake of activities when my mental health started deteriorating.....
They have grown recently and I think this has had a big impact on how they treat people now.....anyway enough of them.
They are a very tiny part of the world. And God still loves me right where I am. I am lonely today and a little depressed but I plan on going to church in the morning and I am starting to tell myself I should start going to "Adult Children of Alcoholics" meetings.
I love God...He is with me...I can live for God outside of RCV. God loves me. God has forgiven me. God's mercies are new every morning...God will supply all my needs. I am thankful for my health, for my needs being met, for my healthy children and my loving husband. This is nothing.
We will be fine....soon I will start my new job and God will be with me there as I minister to the needs of my patients. He is blessing me with the highest paying job I have ever had. I will continue to mature and will endeavor to be a blessing to others.
When I make a mistake or fall I will reach out to God. I will endeavor to listen to Godly music and fill my soul with the Word of God. I will keep reaching out socially, endeavoring to make positive christian friends.
God will help me reshape my personality. God is more powerful than we can imagine.
Life will not always be perfect but God is still there. God loves the village and He is able to do His work in them. God loves my family...He is able to raise me and my husband up.
Praise the Mighty name of the Lord. Praise His Mighty Works....
Please email me...I would love to talk with you.....
God Bless you,
Earnestseeker:)
Here's what I can tell you. I spent too much of the past six months and then some reading up on 'cults' or if you prefer 'sects'. I can sent you a few links that I found most helpful. There are articles on these site as well as FACTnet. See if any of these scenarios match your past situation.
www.cultwatch.org (http://www.cultwatch.org), www.freedomofmind.org (http://www.freedomofmind.org), www.rickross.com (http://www.rickross.com), www.abusivechurches.com (http://www.abusivechurches.com) The last one has a page entitles "About Cults" and explains Christian Fellowship Church in detail. Their ways may be a bit harsher than Rose Creek Village. IMO, many of these groups use simiar control tactics. There are good articles on these sites talking about what is a 'cult' and how they operate.
Have you looked into any social service organizations that could help you get on your feet?
If you didn't fit in at Rose Creek Village it is to your credit. You are a strong woman and they couldn't break you with their manipulation and control tactics. You did the right thing in leaving. Who wants to be an abused sheep!
That one young lady you spoke of who wanted to watch your children, but you didn't to watch your children was higher up in the pecking order as she was related to leadership. Am I correct in stating that? Leaders and their families and close friends, lackeys often play above the rules.
You got in trouble for acting like a mother. She was wrong IMO, because God put you in charge of YOUR children, not her. She was at that moment a stranger to you. From your story she had no trouble 'narc-ing' on you! She seemed to report everything to leadership. Read my links and see that you are not alone.
Another example of living above the rules, In that FLDS Cult, the color red is seen as evil, sinful and even of the devil, HOWEVER, when their leader, Warren Jeffs, was arrested by police he was driving in a red car. See what I mean?
Another thing, stay way far away from these people as possible!!! NO MATTER WHAT!! Otherwise you might be tempted to return. It has been known to happen.
Good luck with ACOA. They are a good group from what I know. Keep us posted. Remember recovery take time, lots of time. Plese be patient with yourself and with God.
God Bless You!
bramble
06-01-2008, 01:53 AM
Hello everyone....anyone want an email conversation?
I just came out of Rose Creek Village a couple of months ago....they did not like my personality...they like very submissive women or whatever and I did not fit into their box.
Anyway me and my family are struggling to find new jobs, etc. here in Phoenix...
God is providing for us although it is scary...we have two sons...five and eight....and we have seven hundred dollars in the bank.
I have a job starting Monday...hopefully we can squeak by...staying in a motel by the week in Phoenix.
We just lived at RCV for about nine months....they seemed to help us with some things....it seems like they have God to some degree...part of me wishes so much we could go back. But it is their way or the highway...they would not allow us to live outside the village and still partake of activities when my mental health started deteriorating.....
They have grown recently and I think this has had a big impact on how they treat people now.....anyway enough of them.
They are a very tiny part of the world. And God still loves me right where I am. I am lonely today and a little depressed but I plan on going to church in the morning and I am starting to tell myself I should start going to "Adult Children of Alcoholics" meetings.
I love God...He is with me...I can live for God outside of RCV. God loves me. God has forgiven me. God's mercies are new every morning...God will supply all my needs. I am thankful for my health, for my needs being met, for my healthy children and my loving husband. This is nothing.
We will be fine....soon I will start my new job and God will be with me there as I minister to the needs of my patients. He is blessing me with the highest paying job I have ever had. I will continue to mature and will endeavor to be a blessing to others.
When I make a mistake or fall I will reach out to God. I will endeavor to listen to Godly music and fill my soul with the Word of God. I will keep reaching out socially, endeavoring to make positive christian friends.
God will help me reshape my personality. God is more powerful than we can imagine.
Life will not always be perfect but God is still there. God loves the village and He is able to do His work in them. God loves my family...He is able to raise me and my husband up.
Praise the Mighty name of the Lord. Praise His Mighty Works....
Please email me...I would love to talk with you.....
God Bless you,
Earnestseeker:)
Here's what I can tell you. I spent too much of the past six months and then some reading up on 'cults' or if you prefer 'sects'. I can sent you a few links that I found most helpful. There are articles on these site as well as FACTnet. See if any of these scenarios match your past situation.
www.cultwatch.org (http://www.cultwatch.org), www.freedomofmind.org (http://www.freedomofmind.org), www.rickross.com (http://www.rickross.com), www.abusivechurches.com (http://www.abusivechurches.com) The last one has a page entitles "About Cults" and explains Christian Fellowship Church in detail. Their ways may be a bit harsher than Rose Creek Village. IMO, many of these groups use simiar control tactics. There are good articles on these sites talking about what is a 'cult' and how they operate.
Have you looked into any social service organizations that could help you get on your feet?
If you didn't fit in at Rose Creek Village it is to your credit. You are a strong woman and they couldn't break you with their manipulation and control tactics. You did the right thing in leaving. Who wants to be an abused sheep!
That one young lady you spoke of who wanted to watch your children, but you didn't to watch your children was higher up in the pecking order as she was related to leadership. Am I correct in stating that? Leaders and their families and close friends, lackeys often play above the rules.
You got in trouble for acting like a mother. She was wrong IMO, because God put you in charge of YOUR children, not her. She was at that moment a stranger to you. From your story she had no trouble 'narc-ing' on you! She seemed to report everything to leadership. Read my links and see that you are not alone.
Another example of living above the rules, In that FLDS Cult, the color red is seen as evil, sinful and even of the devil, HOWEVER, when their leader, Warren Jeffs, was arrested by police he was driving in a red car. See what I mean?
Another thing stay way far away from these people as possible!!! NO MATTER WHAT!! Otherwise you might be tempted to return. It has been known to happen.
Good luck with ACOA. They are a good group from what I know. Keep us posted.
earnestseeker
06-02-2008, 12:14 AM
Oh thanks Bramble...you are my fan club!! I thoroughly enjoyed your post and it made me happy and I laughed. Thank you so much....
God Bless you richly for caring.....
Earnestseeker
earnestseeker
06-02-2008, 12:20 AM
Yes, leadership is definitely an elite, special group in these organizations....Can you believe I fell in love with the senior leader? I'm awful, aren't I...I guess my lack of a father figure and screwed up childhood leaves me a little vulnerable....at least things were Biblical in a lot of ways....I mean things could be a lot worse looking at other communities....
The only "normal", noncontrolling community I really know of is Living Springs in Arkansas and Reba Fellowship and some of their other Mennonite communities. Other than that all I know of is the go to church on Sunday thing.
Hard to know where to go...takes a lot of research ....a lot of time....maybe it is not meant for persons to live in christian community...maybe the go to church on sunday thing is perfectly fine.
Anyway, nice emailing you,
Earnestseeker
bramble
06-02-2008, 10:57 PM
Yes, leadership is definitely an elite, special group in these organizations....Can you believe I fell in love with the senior leader? I'm awful, aren't I...I guess my lack of a father figure and screwed up childhood leaves me a little vulnerable....at least things were Biblical in a lot of ways....I mean things could be a lot worse looking at other communities....
The only "normal", noncontrolling community I really know of is Living Springs in Arkansas and Reba Fellowship and some of their other Mennonite communities. Other than that all I know of is the go to church on Sunday thing.
Hard to know where to go...takes a lot of research ....a lot of time....maybe it is not meant for persons to live in christian community...maybe the go to church on sunday thing is perfectly fine.
Anyway, nice emailing you,
Earnestseeker
The "falling in love" thing I think goes along with the social dymanics of these groups. I think I read that somewhere. I think these leaders are father figures/God figures.
I don't know much about these communities or fellowships. I'm more 'the go to Church on Sunday' type.
I'm also a cautious type. It would be fair to say that I have been hurt enough by 'cults' to avoid many things even causes or missions that they support.
There are also lots of good books to read. Many can be found on this site and some of the links I sent. Public libraries can also be useful. Ours wasn't the greatest so, I should try an inter library loan. A friend recommended Toxic Faith to me. I also want to get some books by Steve Hassan and Margaret Thayer Singer.
Be patient! God's time isn't our time. God Bless!
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