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John Cady
05-18-2008, 02:30 PM
Hey guys, here is a new job forum created by CFCMI to recruit new peole into their mess. I actually logged onto the forum to see if I could "sneak a further peek", but I got shut down right away. Wonder how many suckers will get lured into this scam.

Volunteer Postings
Get involved! Volunteer! Learn something new! Be a blessing!
Source: http://www.mytwocentsonline.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?

Yes, CFCMI is "hiring" people for their slavepits. Check out these job openings:

International Ministry Opportunities: Executive Secretary to serve General Pastor.

BRIEF DESCRIPTION: Provide administrative support to General Pastor of CFC. (His current assistant is going to Naples, Italy, to begin a fellowship!!!) Duties include preparing correspondence and reports, performing research, coordinating projects with other departments to fulfill the General Pastor's vision, and keeping the General Pastor abreast of progress. In addition, you will represent the General Pastor at church and community functions, minister on telephone calls on his behalf, prepare Bible research, coordinate travel itineraries and daily schedules, assist him with e-mail and voice mail, and occasionally travel with him.

SKILLS/REQUIREMENTS: "Can do" attitude, friendly, pleasant attitude, and organizational skills are a must. Should have a neat appearance, and be comfortable and tactful in dealing with the public. Needs to have a ministering spirit. The gift of helps would be helpful in this position. Must be able to lead and to follow. Must be able to interact and effectively communicate with other departments, volunteers, staff, senior leadership, pastors, bishops, and heads of state. Should be able to type 30+ wpm, have a knowledge of MS Office Suite (Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Publisher), and general knowledge of office equipment and procedures, etc...

Local Church Opportunities: Facilities Manager

Do you love to work with your hands? Are you a good financial steward? Do you know your way around a toolbox? Are you a leader and mentor? Do you want to minister to every person who drives by 3401
Azalea Garden Road and everyone who enters our doors? Maybe you'll consider a position as the Facilities Manager of Christian Fellowship Church!

Now, we don't want you to do all the work (God knows there's a lot of it...)

The desire is for you to coordinate the efforts of a staff of 15. You must be organized, able to prioritize projects and have a heart to teach your staff some of the finer points of maintenance. You will be responsible for making sure that the building and grounds are safe, look good, and are always clean and orderly. In addition, you will work with suppiers and vendors to insure that supplies are always on hand, and your staff will insure that supplies are distributed. You will also be responsible for mail
distribution and for keeping mailing and packaging supplies on hand.

Thank you for your interest and heart to serve.

Financial Ministry Opportunities: Grant Writer

Are you creative? Meticulous? Are you a great schmoozer? Then we need you on our team!!!

The Financial Ministry is looking for candidates who can write grant proposals that will knock the socks off the readers so they'll contribute to the worthy causes our church supports. We know there are many charitable people in the world who would give to a worthy charitable cause if only they knew it existed! In short, We have not because we ask not...Well, your job is to ASK!

Must be able to fill out forms and write compelling, creative, works of art to tell the world about our many charitable programs. A pleasant telephone demeanor is also helpful. Most important is a heat that is willing and ready to learn!

Support Ministry Opportunities: Graphic Designer

Do you have great graphics skills? OR Do you want to LEARN to be a great graphic artist? We have positions open in the field of graphic design and we want you to be our next candidate!

In addition to being a blessing to the work of spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ, many of those who work in this area have doubled their salary in the working world by applying skills they learned right here!

Do you have an eye for what looks cool? Do you know what symetry is? Do you like to stare at a computer screen until your eyeballs fall out?

Then put your talents to use. Call TODAY. No, I take that back, call RIGHT NOW!!!!

turningjapanese
05-18-2008, 04:34 PM
I like the position for grant writer....they need a "great schmoozer"....hehehe. Takes one to know one!

Obviously, "compelling works of art" translates to "writing BS."

Seeing this position reports to Lantis, I'll pass.

bramble
05-18-2008, 06:35 PM
I wouldn't be a bit suprised if they 1) had people picked out already, or 2) weren't actually planning to fill these positions.

IMO, they could be stringing people along by making them feel needed.


Great digging, John. How did you find it?

John Cady
05-18-2008, 07:03 PM
Thank TJ for the info.

turningjapanese
05-18-2008, 10:26 PM
Hello! Welcome to the Age of Information! Where you can find out about anything, anyone, anytime...pretty cool, huh?


So I was thinking about their job postings...why can't they just write their own grant proposals? They've been schmoozing and BSing for years! With all that experience, plus Quixar training, no one else would be more qualified.

Facilities Manager = Head Janitor


These should be paid positions, btw.
Grant writing is NOT EASY, and who wants to clean toilets for free?

Slavery was abolished in 1865.


Pete wants someone who can "lead and follow." (uh oh, nobody likes working for a micro-manager!) Yes-men only, please.
One question Pete: What's with the "bishops and heads of state" comment? And you want someone to coordinate projects to "fulfill your vision?" Your ego is showing again!
I think the "God Phone" is ringing ...should I tell him to hold?

turningjapanese
05-18-2008, 11:19 PM
“Until you transcend the ego, you do nothing but add to the insanity of the world.” -John Randolph Price

bramble
05-19-2008, 01:31 AM
Thank TJ for the info.

OH!--Thanks to TJ! Good work as usual!

turningjapanese
05-19-2008, 02:53 AM
No need to stroke MY ego....

I'm glad you found the information useful.

Peace,
"tj"

cfcmi
05-19-2008, 08:50 AM
Volunteer Postings
Get involved! Volunteer! Learn something new! Be a blessing! TYPES OF JOBS IN THIS SECTION: Here you will find jobs related to the International Ministry, including positions in Valour College (aka the Minister's College), spiritual and administrative support for the military ministry, domestic and overseas missions, openings for fellowship leaders around the world, and support for our executive leadership team.

Thank you for your interest. If you are looking for a specific key word, you may use our search function to search all categories of the bulletin board.

CONTACT: If you see yourself in a position and you would like to apply or get more information, we would love to hear from you! Please call Pastor Bruce Wilson at (757) 962-9200, ext 7777 or email him at pat.taylor@cfcmi.org (pat.taylor@cfcmi.org). (I am merely posting the email address because it was in the announcement; I personally have seen nothing about Pat Taylor other than he is a sincere, godly man who got royally duped into this mess.)

Source: http://www.mytwocentsonline.net/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm15dHdvY2VudHNvbmxpbmUubmV0L2NnaS 1iaW4vZm9ydW0vQmxhaC5wbA==)?

Yes, CFCMI is "hiring" people for their slavepits. Check out these job openings:

International Ministry Opportunities: Executive Secretary to serve General Pastor.
BRIEF DESCRIPTION: Provide administrative support to General Pastor of CFC. (His current assistant is going to Naples, Italy, to begin a fellowship!!!) Duties include preparing correspondence and reports, performing research, coordinating projects with other departments to fulfill the General Pastor's vision, and keeping the General Pastor abreast of progress. In addition, you will represent the General Pastor at church and community functions, minister on telephone calls on his behalf, prepare Bible research, coordinate travel itineraries and daily schedules, assist him with e-mail and voice mail, and occasionally travel with him.

SKILLS/REQUIREMENTS: "Can do" attitude, friendly, pleasant attitude, and organizational skills are a must. Should have a neat appearance, and be comfortable and tactful in dealing with the public. Needs to have a ministering spirit. The gift of helps would be helpful in this position. Must be able to lead and to follow. Must be able to interact and effectively communicate with other departments, volunteers, staff, senior leadership, pastors, bishops, and heads of state. Should be able to type 30+ wpm, have a knowledge of MS Office Suite (Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Publisher), and general knowledge of office equipment and procedures, etc...

This is going to be a very tough role to fill. Kirk Orelup was the Executive Assistant to the General Pastor (i.e., house servant) for many years, both with L.R. Davis and Peter F. Paine. He had the outward appearance, intelligence, and verbal eloquence necessary to fulfill this role. To be honest - no disrespect to anyone currently there - I cannot think of ANY current CFCMI staffers who would be capable of fulfilling this position. My best guesses would be Bruce Wilson, since he has these qualities and is no longer filling a pastoral role (he still has the title but no congregation) or one of the royal family members - Heather, Holly, or Christine. Christine Sanders currently does administrative duties in the church, but complaints from many who left CFCMI inidicate she is known to pawn her work onto the single men. Try doing that in a real job. My other guess at this point is that CFCMI would have to hire someone from outside the church...but how long would that person stick around once he or she sees what is going on?

This position requires not only the skills advertised, but also the ability to agree with every decision made by the General Pastor plus being able to turn a blind eye to the corruption inside CFCMI's inner circle. One cannot work this close to the top leadership and not become aware something is horribly wrong. Kirk did this very well, and as I stated earlier, this will be an extremely difficult position to fill.

Local Church Opportunities: Facilities Manager
Do you love to work with your hands? Are you a good financial steward? Do you know your way around a toolbox? Are you a leader and mentor? Do you want to minister to every person who drives by 3401 Azalea Garden Road and everyone who enters our doors? Maybe you'll consider a position as the Facilities Manager of Christian Fellowship Church!

Now, we don't want you to do all the work (God knows there's a lot of it...)

The desire is for you to coordinate the efforts of a staff of 15. You must be organized, able to prioritize projects and have a heart to teach your staff some of the finer points of maintenance. You will be responsible for making sure that the building and grounds are safe, look good, and are always clean and orderly. In addition, you will work with suppiers and vendors to insure that supplies are always on hand, and your staff will insure that supplies are distributed. You will also be responsible for mail distribution and for keeping mailing and packaging supplies on hand.

Thank you for your interest and heart to serve.

This job will probably be filled by one of the more seasoned oldheads who still thinks CFCMI is God's calling for his life. Unfortunately, with that position comes the constantly changing requirements, especially with Ed Thomas pretty much running things and not allowing true delegation of authority to take place. The number of staff (single men) advertised tells another story: there are not as many single men as there used to be. Many have either gotten married, moved out of staff housing, or left CFCMI altogether. This "cheap labor" scam the leadership has promoted for years is falling apart like everything else.

Financial Ministry Opportunities: Grant Writer
Are you creative? Meticulous? Are you a great schmoozer? Then we need you on our team!!!

The Financial Ministry is looking for candidates who can write grant proposals that will knock the socks off the readers so they'll contribute to the worthy causes our church supports. We know there are many charitable people in the world who would give to a worthy charitable cause if only they knew it existed! In short, We have not because we ask not...Well, your job is to ASK!

Must be able to fill out forms and write compelling, creative, works of art to tell the world about our many charitable programs. A pleasant telephone demeanor is also helpful. Most important is a heat that is willing and ready to learn!

On the original bulletin, the job announcement was posted by none other than Dan Lantis, the master schmoozer and con artist. This is a perfect job for him. This announcement makes me wonder, too, if Lantis is still in San Diego or if Pete and Ed changed their mind and reeled him into Norfolk.

Support Ministry Opportunities: Graphic Designer
Do you have great graphics skills? OR Do you want to LEARN to be a great graphic artist? We have positions open in the field of graphic design and we want you to be our next candidate!

In addition to being a blessing to the work of spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ, many of those who work in this area have doubled their salary in the working world by applying skills they learned right here!

Do you have an eye for what looks cool? Do you know what symetry is? Do you like to stare at a computer screen until your eyeballs fall out? Then put your talents to use. Call TODAY. No, I take that back, call RIGHT NOW!!!!

There is a sad story behind this. Travis Swinton, a personal friend of mine who chose to remain in CFCMI, was a gifted graphic artist and even earned a degree in graphic design from Norfolk State University. His life was tragically cut short in an automobile accident in December 2006. There is one person I know who could do the job from within CFCMI, and that is Ken Wood; however, he has bigger responsibilities both in the Navy and as head of a house fellowship in Hawaii. This job is either going to be filled by someone outside CFCMI, or the church will have to contract with a graphics company. The pickings are really slim to none here.

In order to remotely recruit someone into these jobs, these need to be regular paid positions with some kind of benefit package. CFCMI never considered this before because there was always a pool of free labor from the single men; now this pool too has dried up, and their hand is now being forced in a last-ditch effort to keep the dream afloat. The real challenge is this: if someone is hired from outside the church to fill these jobs, they most likely won't stick around. These jobs all require involvement with the inner circle, and the problems will be clear if the new employee has not bought into CFCMI's methods of abuse and control. There might be some hope of rentention if the leadership does not force the new hires to become church members; by allowing them the personal freedom to remain with their parent church, this could give the individual a break and keep their sanity. However, in reality this will not happen as there will likely be some requirement for church membership as a condition of employment.

CFCMI is drawing straws, and grabbing nothing but thin air here.

bramble
05-19-2008, 05:11 PM
This is the gist of the posting terms in a nutshell:

No: vugar, false, sexually orientated, threatening, obscene, abusive, hateful, libelous, or illegal language may be used. No hacking. IP addresses will be loggeg. ISP may be contacted for violations.

A public profile is mandatory. It will be displayed. One's e-mail address need not be posted on it. One is not obligated to provide to this job website: gender, birthdate or name.

There is more, of course. I wonder what, if any, hidden meaning is buried here. There has to be something.

turningjapanese
05-19-2008, 06:43 PM
No hidden meaning. Just reveals their suspicious nature. After all, they DO have a lot to keep under wraps.

No Hacking? DUH.


Irony alert: LR WAS vulgar, false, sexually oriented, threatening, obscene, abusive, hateful, libelous and illegal.

How 'bout them apples?

Peace.

PS: What do they mean by "illegal language?" Spanish?

bramble
05-19-2008, 08:07 PM
I wonder if "no sexually orientated speech" means that they can't say,"Can I gitcha?" or "What if I was to pester ya?" Maybe it means no gay bashing. Maybe it means no straight bashing. That is what I can't understand.

Davis sure was sexually orintated--sexual harassment and abuse was his hobby.

turningjapanese
05-19-2008, 09:25 PM
Maybe he can log on and try to get his old job back.

I didn't see any postings for Dead Hillbilly Schizoid Pastors.

Maybe they're hiring at the NTCC.

turningjapanese
05-23-2008, 01:43 AM
Those in our Financial Stewardship Ministry will work under our Chief Financial Minister to account for all church funds, actively seek ways to be better stewards...


If a person is interested in this position, they are directed to contact a certain pastor in the San Diego area. My question is:

1. Is this "pastor" now the Chief Financial Minister?

2. Is this the same "pastor" that was involved in some type of lawsuit stemming from fraudulent investment schemes?


Just curious.

John Cady
05-23-2008, 11:03 AM
My question is:

1. Is this "pastor" now the Chief Financial Minister?

2. Is this the same "pastor" that was involved in some type of lawsuit stemming from fraudulent investment schemes?

Just curious.
My answers:

1. Probably not. Lantis is not the International Treasurer.

2. Yes he was.

bramble
05-23-2008, 02:15 PM
I wonder if Lantis' financial indisgressions will follow him to Norfolk.

turningjapanese
05-23-2008, 04:27 PM
One's reputation WILL follow you everywhere.

Just ask CFCMI.

That's why they are constantly trying to "re-invent" themselves with these name-changes, but it won't work.

turningjapanese
05-27-2008, 02:55 AM
They could use a new speechwriter too. Plus, their sermons are just boring re-hash.

bramble
05-27-2008, 04:47 AM
They could use a new speechwriter too. Plus, their sermons are just boring re-hash.

They are being 'green' by recyling old material. Their lack of true Scriptural Knowledge shows them to be green in another way. God is never boring. They rarely speak of God.

turningjapanese
06-01-2008, 03:58 PM
What do you mean, they "rarely speak of God"? Why should they? God speaks TO THEM, remember?

Now, they need to hire a brand new secretary for Pete, to answer the God-phone, screen his nasty emails and coordinate his appointments with important "Heads of State"- type people. I'm sure this person will have a lot of work to do; shoring up Pete's ego is a BIG job.

turningjapanese
06-01-2008, 11:55 PM
You would think these positions would have been filled by now...

It's too bad that Costco wasn't around in LR's day...they could have bought paper towels and hand lotion in bulk, and saved a lot of money.

bramble
06-02-2008, 01:14 AM
That is actually their SECOND abandoned job board. IMO it is just there to make them look legitimate. The positions were: 1) filled before the board went up 2) they never intended to be filled. Just my opinion.

bramble
06-13-2008, 02:14 PM
Someone is reading the jobs board. It does have a couple dozen hits. Most activity was April 22 at around 3 in the morning--go figure! Shouldn't they be in bed?

John Cady
06-16-2008, 05:51 PM
http://www.phpbbserver.com/volunteer/index.php?mforum=volunteer

Here is their other board.

turningjapanese
06-17-2008, 12:19 AM
What's with the 200 deal?

Was this LR's "majick" number? (Did one have to sleep with LR to be included in that?)

Also, who is/was keeping track? LR? Bruce? Is there a spreadsheet somewhere, or is it on a whiteboard in someone's office? (they do love those whiteboards!) Or was it lost in the move?

Considering they (CFCMI) have been sponging off the military for over 30 years, shouldn't that number have been reached long ago?

Anyone know what number they are currently on...16? 132? 48?

Just curious.

Hostile Duty
06-17-2008, 12:34 AM
The "200" number was derived from one of LR's supposed "prophecies"... and it is recorded in an actual book that the HQ maintained. (I have seen it and read from it.)

Even in the height of CFC's glory in 96-99, they did not have 200 "eunuchs". Though they were desperately trying to get them.



What's with the 200 deal?

Was this LR's "majick" number? (Did one have to sleep with LR to be included in that?)

Also, who is/was keeping track? LR? Bruce? Is there a spreadsheet somewhere, or is it on a whiteboard in someone's office? (they do love those whiteboards!) Or was it lost in the move?

Considering they (CFCMI) have been sponging off the military for over 30 years, shouldn't that number have been reached long ago?

Anyone know what number they are currently on...16? 132? 48?

Just curious.

bramble
06-22-2008, 04:57 AM
The "200" number was derived from one of LR's supposed "prophecies"... and it is recorded in an actual book that the HQ maintained. (I have seen it and read from it.)

Even in the height of CFC's glory in 96-99, they did not have 200 "eunuchs". Though they were desperately trying to get them.

Hostile Duty:

Hello! Good to see you are still around! Just wondering. What was the most that Davis had in his Eunich Scouts? I wonder how many he has today. Estimates come in anywhere around 15 to 30.

bramble
06-22-2008, 04:58 AM
http://www.phpbbserver.com/volunteer/index.php?mforum=volunteer

Here is their other board.

Careful or it will will really mess up your computers. It is only a cover page.

bramble
06-22-2008, 05:42 AM
www.cfcmi.netforums.us (http://www.cfcmi.netforums.us) gives a link for a job as an aide in a nursing home in Virginia. Aren't those typically minimum wage jobs?

John Cady
06-22-2008, 11:00 AM
I see they are trying to start a new one after the last two were hijacked by a bogus "L.R. Davis". Their internet cleanup man is in charge of this one.

The nursing home jobs are usually minimum wage.

turningjapanese
06-22-2008, 05:27 PM
As far as "jobs" are concerned, they have a Personal Care Attendant and Grant Writer.

Butt-wiper and Butt-kisser. Pass.


And LR coming back to "pester ya..." Well, that's just the way he is. The leadership overlooked it then...why should they mind it now?

John Cady
07-16-2008, 08:08 PM
tj: Hey! They had some weird "volunteer drive" type thing at CFC. The crowd looked pretty sparse. Was trying to figure out where that PR woman was from. I don't think she was affiliated with the city of Norfolk. I bet she had no clue of CFC's history. They had a cheesy posterboard at the meeting that looked like a 4th grade school project!

TJ, I never heard of this woman either. I did a search on her: Linda Jones is the Public Relations Director for the Union Mission in Hampton Roads. I agree she never heard of CFCMI nor its history. Once again the crowd looked mighty thin...even with women and families present, the numbers look like they are shrinking.

Pete was there, but Ed was not. He was probably out riding his motorcycle or doing whatever he does. As for the Navy chiefs in the church: During this time of year, service khaki is the uniform of the day. I am not sure why the one chief wore choker whites - it is a bit much for what was a casual event.

The leadership just doesn't get it...

bramble
07-17-2008, 04:45 AM
Union Mission runs homeless shelters. I wonder if Ed and Pete are trying to set up homeless shelters for old broken down Eunichs who have outlived their usefullness. This way CFCMI won't have to take care of them in their old age. (LOL) :D

No, not much of a crowd. If they had combined this with their picnic, maybe people would have come. I'm guessing that there are some in CFC who are getting smart and taking the day off.

That Chief's choker whites are a hoot! This isn't a change of command!!! Lots of Churches have volunteer fairs. Imagine seeing someone at one dressed in a Tux--it's the same thing!

tj: Hey! They had some weird "volunteer drive" type thing at CFC. The crowd looked pretty sparse. Was trying to figure out where that PR woman was from. I don't think she was affiliated with the city of Norfolk. I bet she had no clue of CFC's history. They had a cheesy posterboard at the meeting that looked like a 4th grade school project!

TJ, I never heard of this woman either. I did a search on her: Linda Jones is the Public Relations Director for the Union Mission in Hampton Roads. I agree she never heard of CFCMI nor its history. Once again the crowd looked mighty thin...even with women and families present, the numbers look like they are shrinking.

Pete was there, but Ed was not. He was probably out riding his motorcycle or doing whatever he does. As for the Navy chiefs in the church: During this time of year, service khaki is the uniform of the day. I am not sure why the one chief wore choker whites - it is a bit much for what was a casual event.

The leadership just doesn't get it...