My Space Link--cfcmi

[bramble]

Please see www.myspace.com/cfcmi . There is a gentleman from Waukegan who has compiled many posts from Abusive Churches and Cult Awareness Network and added some of his own material. Good for him! The more publicity CFCMI gets the better.

[turningjapanese]

As long as these scheisters try to sweep their corruption under the rug, you know someone will pull it out from under them!

tj

[John Cady]

I have a feeling the posts will continue to grow. MySpace is a popular forum, and the wolves will not be able to hide from the facts. Especially now that the author has added that Ed Thomas and Pete Paine knew about L.R. Davis' sin for years and lied about it. The court transcripts even prove Ed threatened to leave CFCMI at one time when he caught his father-in-law at the Karcher Hotel with one of the men. L.R. then gave one of his famous "death threats" to keep Ed in line. Now that L.R. is dead, and no longer a threat to anyone, what is keeping Ed there? Simple: he is enjoying reaping the rewards of other men's labors (i.e., the single men still in slavery there).

[bramble]

I just hope that the few remaining oldeads will leave when they realize they are being asked to fix up another abandoned dump--just to be asked to move into yet another down the road. IMO this building will probably remain in use for 6 mo. to 5 yrs. then CFCFMI will fold for good. IMO Oldheads will remain until Thomas cuts and runs with all the loot and pulls the rug out from under them. The younger single men will have an easier time picking up and moving on. The oldheads will be best off moving back to their hometowns wherever they orginally came from.

[John Cady]

I hope the author of the CFCMI MySpace site reads this. The single men are the biggest reason they still exist, and there is a lot to be discussed.

[John Cady]

There are more articles on the MySpace site if anyone is interested.

[bramble]

I really like the wall this guy has up on his blog. He also believe in the Holy Trinity and criticizes CFC for not believing in the Holy Trinity. Notice: Holy Spirit missing from wall.

I really wonder what kinds of churches x-cfcmi members end up joining. IMO: they don't all end up on Pentecostal type churches. Some end up in other evangelical churches (Phil and Genny Davis, for instance).



Not trying to be overbearing--just trying to give food for thought.

[John Cady]

I read the blog too. You made one error. The author did not say he believes in the trinity; if you read the whole post again, you will see he follows the Oneness message, as do I.

He was referring to the original teaching of CFCMI, which until 1979 was like other Apostolic Pentecostal churches: repentance, baptism in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. However, because of the sin that ran unchecked in their camp, fewer people received the baptism of the Holy Ghost in CFCMI as time went on. Those who received it sometimes took years before being filled; I was baptized in 1986, but did not receive the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues until 1995.

[bramble]

I read the blog too. You made one error. The author did not say he believes in the trinity; if you read the whole post again, you will see he follows the Oneness message, as do I.

He was referring to the original teaching of CFCMI, which until 1979 was like other Apostolic Pentecostal churches: repentance, baptism in Jesus' name, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. However, because of the sin that ran unchecked in their camp, fewer people received the baptism of the Holy Ghost in CFCMI as time went on. Those who received it sometimes took years before being filled; I was baptized in 1986, but did not receive the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues until 1995.

I know very well that you are a Oneness believer, I can not say for sure what the My Space Guy (Admin) believes about the nature of God. I reread his blog, but found nothing. Why do think that he is a Oneness believer?

I agree that sin has driven the Holy Ghost from CFCMI. I just was wondering if something in their doctrine was the cause of the sin or led to further sin--abuse of single men, time theft, theft of money, fear of leaving, sodomy. They need to get right with God!

:D IMO every time LRD got the hiccups he thought it was Public Divine Revelation. Switching doctrine midstream doesn't give CFC crediblity, either.

Admin said CFCMI "rejects the doctrine of the Holy Trinity" from that wording one might be led to believe that he sees this as a shortcoming of CFCMI. He also says that the Holy Spirit was missing from CFCMI.


God Bless!

[bramble]

While I do not agree with Apostolic Christianity or UPCI. I would like to offer my support to those struggling with CFCMI both on the inside and on the outside. Feel free to send me a PM.

As I have said before CFCMI theology seems play into the other BITE concept problems. Example: "sodomy is not a sin if you don't have any feelings toward the other person"--paraphrase.

I believe that we can find enough common ground to put an end to CFCMI and help these guys in there find their freedom. Once out they will need time and space to heal--maybe even councelling. Keep them in your prayers.

God Bless!

[John Cady]

Wow,
The author has been doing his homework. Read the new posts on his blog.

[cfcmi]

I spoke with the admin for ABC, and the only concern they had was they wanted to know who I was. They do not want to associated with folks who go off the deep end, as they invested a lot of time and effort on their project.

The site is back up!

[turningjapanese]

I was reading over the myspace blog... what does this LR quote mean?

"I am not interested in your sightseeing tours."


Also, had he lived, I think he would have been eligible for parole this year.

[John Cady]

I was reading over the myspace blog... what does this LR quote mean?

"I am not interested in your sightseeing tours."


Also, had he lived, I think he would have been eligible for parole this year.
Davis directed that at Navy guys when they were deployed. He discouraged them from taking tours and going on vacations; a common pracrtice was that when the ship pulled into port, we would forsake going on a tour and focus solely on evangelism. We were never taught how to balance the two.

[turningjapanese]

Oh, that makes sense. I guess it was another method to exert control when you guys were out of his "jurisdiction." Limit your "worldly" experiences; keep your focus strictly on the church. Probably the same reason why you guys were discouraged from furthering your education. It would be too much of a personal threat to him; can't have any "free-thinkers" challenging his false-'reality.'

[turningjapanese]

Oh, man----I just "got" the Kool-Aid reference on the myspace...Ugh! Am I slow or what? LOL!

"OH YEAH!"

[John Cady]

Oh, man----I just "got" the Kool-Aid reference on the myspace...Ugh! Am I slow or what? LOL!

"OH YEAH!"
Yes, the Kool-Aid reference does look pretty cool!

[Hostile Duty]

What John said is essentially correct, however there is more to this sad story.

(What follows is a brief summary of a story that I was told by a former member that was on the Navy ship in question.)

Several years before I was baptized in 1987 a group of Navy men went on a
"Med Cruise" and wrote LR letters about all of the cool places they got to visit and tour.

Apparently this set LR off as he thought they were not being spiritual enough...

Anyway, I heard that when the ship pulled in Ed Thomas was waiting (I cannot remember if LR was there too, but he may have been) and then ripped them a new one via a highly flammable "rebuking".

This eventually resulted in LR dedicating a whole radio program to this topic of "Love not the world..." CFC used to have tapes of the original broadcast on the "Steps to Reality" program. Later, another version of this tape was made, but it did not have the same "vitriolic hell fire and brimstone" nature to it.

When I was one of the single men with a vow of celibacy, we would listen to this tape to feel "more spiritual"... The original tape was very difficult to come by, and one usually had to get an orignal from an "old head" like I did. For years we were directly forbidden to copy any tapes.

For the past 2 years I have purposely avoided talking about or thinking about CFC and thusly I have been silent. I think it is time to speak again as CFC just keeps on going and going, and going, like a bad "B" movie. When will it end???

Take care


I was reading over the myspace blog... what does this LR quote mean?

"I am not interested in your sightseeing tours."


Also, had he lived, I think he would have been eligible for parole this year.

[turningjapanese]

Welcome, Hostile Duty. Glad you found us. Sorry you've experienced the nightmare within CFC; it must have been very difficult for you.

Thank you for joining our discussion. Was "steps to reality" a radio program? I have never heard of it.

Love to you,
tj

[Hostile Duty]

Thanks for the welcome. CFC was very difficult indeed as I spent 12 years within the single mens "ministry".

"Steps to reality" was a weekly radio program taped in Waukegan where LR would preach some message and play some CFC music. I honestly could not tell you what years that this program was aired. (John could probably give more details on this than I could.)

Welcome, Hostile Duty. Glad you found us. Sorry you've experienced the nightmare within CFC; it must have been very difficult for you.

Thank you for joining our discussion. Was "steps to reality" a radio program? I have never heard of it.

Love to you,
tj

[bramble]

To Hostile Duty:

Welcome aboard. I look forward to hearing more from you. CFC is a thorn in my side too. I resent what they have done to me and to my friends. I feel sorry for anyone still involved in there. Still I keep them in my prayers.

[Hostile Duty]

Hi Bramble,

You know, regarding the cfc "issue" I have been silent for the past few years.

However, every now and then, I will go to the cfc site and look at the new photos and see all of my old friends that are still there and all of the memories come back in a flood.

Back when I was there, I had a lot of good times, however there is a dark caveat to this. Now that I have the illumination of "full disclosure" and revisit my memories, it changes everything. I have a slow smoldering rage focused upon the blatant deception and lies fostered by the senior leadership and their direct families.

When I say "the leadership", I am referring directly to Ed Thomas and Pete Paine, and their direct families. All of the other "leaders" are just "yes men". (Don't be fooled.)

If CFC is to ever become a healthy organization, it will have to depose the current system of Nepotism and the ruling "first families".

There are good people there, and they should just unite and leave Ed and Pete with an empty building.

An example, Bruce Avants is a member and good friend of mine whom has the moral and ethical standards to be a good christian leader. There are others. I just don't get it. The "kingdom" is within you. Not in a building or organization made with mens hands.

To Hostile Duty:

Welcome aboard. I look forward to hearing more from you. CFC is a thorn in my side too. I resent what they have done to me and to my friends. I feel sorry for anyone still involved in there. Still I keep them in my prayers.

[bramble]

I think you are right about the "yes men" I think they say one thing when Ed is listening and another to their trusted friends when Ed isn't around. I also wonder why they don't just walk out, find a better Church. Almost any Church would be better.

I agree that it is sad to see people you know still there wasting their lives. Don't you wish they would get a clue. Even LR's supporters have turned on him. I be the Mother's Day Speech had something to do with it.

How could seemingly good Christians be so duped? This is the question many continue to ask.

What handle did you use on ABC?

When did you walk out?

Hi Bramble,

You know, regarding the cfc "issue" I have been silent for the past few years.

However, every now and then, I will go to the cfc site and look at the new photos and see all of my old friends that are still there and all of the memories come back in a flood.

Back when I was there, I had a lot of good times, however there is a dark caveat to this. Now that I have the illumination of "full disclosure" and revisit my memories, it changes everything. I have a slow smoldering rage focused upon the blatant deception and lies fostered by the senior leadership and their direct families.

When I say "the leadership", I am referring directly to Ed Thomas and Pete Paine, and their direct families. All of the other "leaders" are just "yes men". (Don't be fooled.)

If CFC is to ever become a healthy organization, it will have to depose the current system of Nepotism and the ruling "first families".

There are good people there, and they should just unite and leave Ed and Pete with an empty building.

An example, Bruce Avants is a member and good friend of mine whom has the moral and ethical standards to be a good christian leader. There are others. I just don't get it. The "kingdom" is within you. Not in a building or organization made with mens hands.

[Hostile Duty]

I left in Oct. 99. I will pm you with my name as I no longer wish to have my name associated with my cfc past on an open internet forum.

I think you are right about the "yes men" I think they say one thing when Ed is listening and another to their trusted friends when Ed isn't around. I also wonder why they don't just walk out, find a better Church. Almost any Church would be better.

I agree that it is sad to see people you know still there wasting their lives. Don't you wish they would get a clue. Even LR's supporters have turned on him. I be the Mother's Day Speech had something to do with it.

How could seemingly good Christians be so duped? This is the question many continue to ask.

What handle did you use on ABC?

When did you walk out?

[turningjapanese]

Thanks for the welcome. CFC was very difficult indeed as I spent 12 years within the single mens "ministry".

"Steps to reality" was a weekly radio program taped in Waukegan where LR would preach some message and play some CFC music. I honestly could not tell you what years that this program was aired. (John could probably give more details on this than I could.)



LR had a radio program? And called it "Steps to Reality"?!

That's pretty wild, considering his own "reality" was like a "mental" House of Cards.

[cfcmi]

L.R. Davis took his act to television too...the title was "Focus on Reality". The plug was pulled once Davis got locked up.

Black Sabbath had an album once titled "Masters of Reality"...could that have been their inspiration?

[cfcmi]

I left in Oct. 99. I no longer wish to have my name associated with my cfc past on an open internet forum.
I changed the posts you made on my blogs to the current screen name.

[cfcmi]

"Steps to reality" was a weekly radio program taped in Waukegan where LR would preach some message and play some CFC music. I honestly could not tell you what years that this program was aired. (John could probably give more details on this than I could.)
The radio program ran from around 1978 to 1991, before Davis was indicted.

[cfcmi]

I will have to admit that the blog has become very popular in a short time. Only five weeks and already close to 400 hits on the blog. People are reading up on CFCMI and what goes on.

[bramble]

The radio program ran from around 1978 to 1991, before Davis was indicted.
Which markets did it run in?

[John Cady]

Good Question. Despite what once was a wealth of radio programs, Davis never said which stations played them. I would guess some of the Christian AM stations did; the Norfolk Christian station used to play the radio broadcasts, as I remember listening to them with one of the other guys on the Eisenhower during my lunch break.

[bramble]

I have a rather amusing memory of a Christian radio broadcast back when I lived in Virginia. The preacher was rather passionate about what he was saying and throwing chapter and verse all over the place. I was getting ready for church, but I decided to pull out my Bible and follow along with him. His quotes had nothing to do with the verses he was notating. IMO he was just using Bible quotes for effect, but wasn't actually quoting the Bible. I was left chuckling and shaking my head. I now wonder if that was Davis. This was in around 1981. I forget which station I was listening to.

[turningjapanese]

Wow. Just saw the posting of the Karcher Hotel.

How many men were brutalized in that room?

How many men were raped in the so-called church on Belvidere Rd?

How many men were seduced by LR in his home on Pearsall? A home he shared with his family?

How many men were coerced into sex in cheap hotel rooms in Virginia and San Diego?

How many other boys did LR molest in Mexico?



My loving prayers are with the victims and their families....always. tj.

[John Cady]

I was not around during the Karcher Hotel years (1976-82), but have been in touch with those who were and read the court records. 701 was the room where L.R. Davis would stay when he wasn't home with his family (where a normal husband would be); other men lived in rooms selected by Davis or one of his cronies.

I have no idea exactly how many men were seduced or raped by Davis before he was finally thrown in jail, but I am safe to guess quite a few men were approached or attacked. I was approached by Davis in 1987, but I told him off; he was angry, but he left me alone afterwards.

I can also say, from my own experiences in healing from being in such an environment, that I am thankful to God for allowing me to keep the faith despite all this. Some men have been so badly wounded they abandon the faith altogether, and become hateful and resentful; others seek their solace in venues totally opposite what they lived - drugs, alcohol, pornography, wanton sex, etc. Is this "backsliding"? Maybe, but in the pyschiatric community they refer to this as a "Rubberband effect", where one who initially escapes from a cult snaps into a totally opposite direction once freed. I have been through it, as have others.

[turningjapanese]

Once You Have Been Bitten By A Snake, You Are Very Cautious, Even Of A Coiled Rope.

The Dalai Lama

[bramble]

The lastest post on www.myspace.com/cfcmi (http://www.myspace.com/cfcmi) is about anti-CFCMI flyers that are going to be distributed for for Celebration Weekend. Wouldn't it be funny to drop off a few at base movie theatres. The sailors would never even see them until the lights came on after the movie ended! I doubt anyone would get in trouble.

Laundry mats would be another good place. I doubt these brothers have their own washing machines.

There are kiosks in parks, zoos, telephone poles, city busses, bus shelters and so on...

The funniest place of all would be the windshields of cars belonging to CFCMI members. Placing them on cars in the neighborhood of CFCMI would sure shake things up! :)

[turningjapanese]

When did Bruce get de-pastorized?

Another case of "too many chiefs"?

[turningjapanese]

Love the Absolut Jonestown! LOL!

I finally watched the 'How to be a Cult Leader' video....scary, but true. It makes CFC look so OBVIOUS once you watch it! LOL!

[turningjapanese]

Saw the most recent pic.....

I don't even know how to respond to that. It made my stomach turn, just seeing it.

I can't help but wonder---If it were Paine's or Thomas' child that was being molested, and they knew it, would they ignore and deny their own kids' sexual abuse?

[turningjapanese]

Just saw the latest YouTube video posting, showing LR in all his delusional glory.

Even though it was disturbing to see, I watched it twice.

I don't think I'll be getting those images out of my head anytime soon.

Peace and Prayers,
Tj

http://www.myspace.com/cfcmi

[John Cady]

The ABC News video on Youtube is only the first part of the broadcast. This was uploaded from an ex-member's videocassette, and posted in March. ABC first aired this in early 1991; many of the faces of those who were there are still fresh in my memory. I do not own a copy of the interview, so I cannot claim credit for making it available.

One of the men interviewed was a man named Bill Decker, who later testified at Davis' trial. Decker attended Davis' church in Arkansas, and was a victim at the age of 14 in 1968. The UPCI eventually learned of Davis' homosexual and child molesting behavior and pushed to have him removed; Davis resigned before the district superintendent could reel him in for questioning.

Chris Wallace was very up-front in questioning Davis. At the end of the segment that is on Youtube, Davis is sweating and trying hard to deny the allegations - he was caught in a lie! Now I see why Ed Thomas and Pete Paine told us back then not to watch the interview.

Scott Morehouse, the former San Diego pastor (and a far better one than Dan Lantis) was also very candid in sharing the spiritual, emotional, and moral dilemma many of Davis' victims faced: they saw in the Bible the homosexual acts were sin, but Davis cast a spell over them to convince some of them that it was okay since he was the man of God. Davis tried his magick once on me, but I did not take the bait. As a result, I was not privy to much of what went on behind closed doors; I was unknowingly used as part of the "clean front", the regular squared-away sailor who tried to live what was preached from the pulpit.

Looking back, I thank God I turned down L.R. Davis' advances when he tried to approach me and his offer of eunuchship. That whole deal would have really messed me up. I do wish I had seen the video when it was on TV, though. I probably would have walked out long before I actually did.

[antigen]

It was quite interesting to see that video clip, I look forward to seeing the rest. I remember that time quite well, as we were just getting into the new storefront building on 21st Bay...

Oh, by the way, I re-registered as "antigen", since I cannot post with my old "Hostile Duty" monicker.

The ABC News video on Youtube is only the first part of the broadcast. This was uploaded from an ex-member's videocassette, and posted in March. ABC first aired this in early 1991; many of the faces of those who were there are still fresh in my memory. I do not own a copy of the interview, so I cannot claim credit for making it available.

One of the men interviewed was a man named Bill Decker, who later testified at Davis' trial. Decker attended Davis' church in Arkansas, and was a victim at the age of 14 in 1968. The UPCI eventually learned of Davis' homosexual and child molesting behavior and pushed to have him removed; Davis resigned before the district superintendent could reel him in for questioning.

Chris Wallace was very up-front in questioning Davis. At the end of the segment that is on Youtube, Davis is sweating and trying hard to deny the allegations - he was caught in a lie! Now I see why Ed Thomas and Pete Paine told us back then not to watch the interview.

Scott Morehouse, the former San Diego pastor (and a far better one than Dan Lantis) was also very candid in sharing the spiritual, emotional, and moral dilemma many of Davis' victims faced: they saw in the Bible the homosexual acts were sin, but Davis cast a spell over them to convince some of them that it was okay since he was the man of God. Davis tried his magick once on me, but I did not take the bait. As a result, I was not privy to much of what went on behind closed doors; I was unknowingly used as part of the "clean front", the regular squared-away sailor who tried to live what was preached from the pulpit.

Looking back, I thank God I turned down L.R. Davis' advances when he tried to approach me and his offer of eunuchship. That whole deal would have really messed me up. I do wish I had seen the video when it was on TV, though. I probably would have walked out long before I actually did.

[turningjapanese]

Hey, Hostile Antigen!

When you saw that clip, how did it make you feel? It really creeped me out.

No wonder why the "leadership" didn't want anyone to see it.

It clearly portrays LR as an un-educated delusional whack job. I would love to see the rest of the clip. I want to count how many times LR contradicts himself, and watch how he evades answering questions.

What is it he always said? "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways" ?

Haha---he was telling on himself!

What's funny is Ed and Pete constantly do the same thing. Here is an example:

"The subject of tithes and offerings has been greatly abused by many modern-day preachers. Some people are reluctant to give to a ministry because they think that their money is going straight to the minister’s wallet."

Duh----ya think?

[antigen]

Watching it made me feel very uncomfortable. I still have bad dreams about my time in cfcmi, in fact, I awoke from a bad dream this morning.

LR was very delusional and totally consumed with himself, with the outward faux appearance of humility and intimations of putting "jesus" first. Yet, with his actions and speech he betrayed his true self, which was very narcisistic.

It is odd in a way, but now I find comfort were others fear to tread, and I am reluctant to tread where others find comfort. What a paradox.

Hey, Hostile Antigen!

When you saw that clip, how did it make you feel? It really creeped me out.

No wonder why the "leadership" didn't want anyone to see it.

It clearly portrays LR as an un-educated delusional whack job. I would love to see the rest of the clip. I want to count how many times LR contradicts himself, and watch how he evades answering questions.

What is it he always said? "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways" ?

Haha---he was telling on himself!

What's funny is Ed and Pete constantly do the same thing. Here is an example:

"The subject of tithes and offerings has been greatly abused by many modern-day preachers. Some people are reluctant to give to a ministry because they think that their money is going straight to the minister’s wallet."

Duh----ya think?

[bramble]

I hope current members have the gumption and resourcefulness to watch this video. Maybe they will wake up and smell the coffee.

[bramble]

I saw this piece on CFCMI before, years ago. I realize that now that I watched it again. I would love to see the second installment. Is the building the reporter calls a "motel" actually the motel mentioned in the court transcripts? Or is it The Pillars? (staff housing)

[turningjapanese]

Is that hotel still there? What is it called?

Can you imagine checking into that place; into the room where LR had all his sex-capades?

EWWWWW!!!!!

[John Cady]

The hotel looked like either the old Ramada Inn or EconoLodge. Drove past both hotels plenty of times when I was in the Navy, but never stayed at either...especially with Davis' bunch.

[bramble]

I remember Ramada Inn being mentioned in the court transcripts. I wonder why they filmed it after dark. Is it still there?

[John Cady]

I think the Ramada Inn in Ocean View was torn down several years ago. It wasn't quite the crowd draw that other hotels were...maybe the customers saw Davis and his victims and got grossed out. As for why it was filmed after dark, I believe it was just a matter of scheduling more important aspects of the newscast during the daytime, and by the time ABC got to the hotel, night had fallen.

[bramble]

I think the Ramada Inn in Ocean View was torn down several years ago. It wasn't quite the crowd draw that other hotels were...maybe the customers saw Davis and his victims and got grossed out. As for why it was filmed after dark, I believe it was just a matter of scheduling more important aspects of the newscast during the daytime, and by the time ABC got to the hotel, night had fallen.

Could they possibly be trying to protect the hotel by hiding its identity? I hear a lot of Ocean View was torn down and rebuilt. No one wants to stay in a hotel in Ocean View :eek:!! Not then! Not now!

A story like this took weeks of reading before they even knew who to interview. I am amazed at the people who came forward--Morehouse for one. They were really thorough visiting many venues. I think they did a good job. I wonder who gave Wallace that letter. I couldn't help noticing the official stationary.

Do you have the link on Youtube? What was the original link?

[John Cady]

Here is the video link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veWnfpvfI1U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veWnfpvfI1U)

The guitarist in the opening scene of the newscast is Jim Ottoson. He was married to Lydia at the time.

[T.J.]

Is there any way that one can get a copy of this braodcast???

Does anyone know the exact date this was aired?

This broadcast could be useful for anyone leaving that cult; pre-LR days.

I suppose it could be a great litigation tool; if one joined not knowing the history behind this organization. (esp. if that "history" was denied or deceptively withheld from an unsuspecting member.)

All the more reason the military should be alerted to this group. Children are also in harms way here---especially when being called "demonic distractions" by the "pastors". :mad:

"Churches" don't target specific groups of people (ie, sailors). This broadcast makes it VERY CLEAR that is what CFC does. Their motive being sexual and financial exploitation.

Looking forward to seeing the end of the broadcast....and to CFCMI.

[T.J.]

Chris Wallace was very up-front in questioning Davis. At the end of the segment that is on Youtube, Davis is sweating and trying hard to deny the allegations - he was caught in a lie! Now I see why Ed Thomas and Pete Paine told us back then not to watch the interview.



I don't suppose it would be very difficult for an uneducated self-proclaimed "Bishop" from Butthole, Arkansas to be caught in a lie. (Esp. by a seasoned journalist like Wallace.)

What would be interesting to watch is how LR Davis reacts to Wallace's questionings. Watch how he retreats further into his own virtual reality.

As for Pete and Ed----haha! "Hey, don't watch TV tonite, because it shows how our father-in-law is a rapist, and we don't want to lose our meal ticket!"

[phupdu]

I have additional information on the Frontline video. PM me if you are interested.

Thanks.

[John Cady]

There is a new blog entry. Check it out.

[turningjapanese]

Nice job.

Did you catch this one? "Peter, like most pastors today, didn't have a lot of money." Right!

Anyway, I find it hilarious that "God's annointed" is so stale he needs to re-hash the sermons; which are plagiarized anyways. (And gets his leadership "skills" from reading John Maxwell books---gimme a break!)

I don't know how anyone could STAND listening to his self-aggrandizing monologues--it's enough to make your ears bleed!!

[bramble]

I like the part where Ed says his treasure is laid up in Heaven. Does he have some Mustangs and Harleys there, too? I know he has a lot of treasure laid up in Norfolk. Is he planning to fly to Heaven in his airplane someday?

Meanwhile, the Single Men do not have decent jobs, free time, or any benefits. They still live in really low income neighborhoods. They doen't have any sort of emergency fund in the bank, like good money management experts say that we all should. Ed says people in CFC are worrying about their 401k's. My question is: what 401k?

[turningjapanese]

IMO, Ed is a brainless A$$-clown.

[John Cady]

I found out recently that my MySpace site was attacked by hackers, sending sensitive emails originally sent to those on my friends list to another party. The person who received them is not affiliated with CFCMI but is a party in a legal matter I am currently dealing with. I notified MySpace and am awaiting an answer; I also notified everyone on my list that I will no longer be adding any updates to that site until the hacker issue is resolved.

The message boards on Aimoo are still active.

John Cady