Here's some required reading for your college...

[turningjapanese]

http://www.geocities.com/cfcmi/

click on articles.

[John Cady]

This website is old. It has been around since 2002, but has excellent news articles about the Davis trial.

[turningjapanese]

Like I said, required reading!

[John Cady]

Here is some more required readng. I actually sent a copy of this to their International HQ...bet they got mad and deleted this one!

Questioning Pastoral Integrity

One of the most dangerous comments a pastor can make is when he says "DON'T QUESTION MY INTEGRITY". In this day and time, such attitudes have led to the downfall of many ministers, often because they leaned on their own understanding and thought every decision they made was perfect. I was forced to leave a corrupt church because of this very mindset. The question to ask is this: is challenging pastoral integrity Scriptural? Who do pastors subject themselves to according to the Word of God?

Romans 13:1-7 - [1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. [6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. [7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

A lot of churches use this passage to demonstrate the role of the pastor in the ministry. However, this passage also is used to describe, to a point, the secular leadership in the community where the Christian lives. Problems arise when pastors think they do not have to answer to anyone but God for how they run their churches. Is this how the apostles did their business?

Acts 15:2 - When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

Paul, perhaps the greatest of all the apostles, was accountable to someone. When a major dispute over doctrine arose, he did not just take matters blindly into his own hands. He went before a council of elders and apostles - in our modern time a board of overseers - to ensure the matter of circumcision among the Gentiles was handled rightly. Whether the pastor heads an independent church or is part of a larger organization, there has to be some type of accountability to protect the church from being prey to abuse, false doctrine, and other problems that will scatter and destroy the flock God placed in the pastoral care.

Galatians 2:11-12 - [11] But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. [12] For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Peter was held accountable by Paul for the wrongful manner he conducted himself around the Gentiles. Peter, despite his shortcomings, had enough integrity in God to realize when he had erred and turned the situation around for the betterment of the church. The question that must be asked is this: if pastors in today's churches are shown places where they have erred, will they humble enough to repent?

1 Timothy 5:19 - Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

Too often nobody challenges the integrity of the pastor because the pastor wrongly quotes this passage and says "do not receive accusation against the pastorship". There is a Biblical system in place to deal with these matters, and yes, there is a requirement that others have witnessed or made the same accusation. The preferred witnesses are other faithful brethren, not somebody looking for an ax to grind.

1 Timothy 5:21-22 - [21] I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. [22] Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

Galatians 6:1 - Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

If a pastor or other leader's integrity is questioned, it must be done without prejudice or ulterior motives. We also must not be hasty in our actions, lest we too fall into the same pit the pastor is accused of falling into.

1 Chronicles 16:22 - Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Some pastors misuse this Scripture to scare the congregation into never asking questions about their integrity or decisions. Some ministries have turned this passage to mean that if a parishioner dares to ask questions along these lines, then he or she is rebellious. When pastors and other church leaders misuse these passages, they set themselves up to be above everyone else. That is not biblical. While God calls pastors along with prophets, teachers, apostles, and elders, they are still flesh and blood and subject to temptation - just like those in the pews. When we think we are so above temptation and everything else, then pride sets in.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

1 Corinthians 10:12 - Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

One does not even need to look into the Bible to see where great men fell. Our world today is littered with fallen ministers who thought they were so far removed from temptation that they went into sin anyway, and eventually got caught. The pastors of the megachurches in particular drew the most publicity, and have tainted the image of Christian ministry to the masses. Ted Haggard's fall from grace was especially well-documented when his sin found him out. None of us, regardless of position, are above anyone else, and must be accountable...to God first, and to the ministry.

Romans 14:12 - So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Romans 14:16 - Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

2 Corinthians 6:3 - Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:

This does not mean that the man of God will not make a mistake or have a slip of the tongue. However, the man of God in particular is especially held accountable for his actions as the souls of other people are in his care.

1 Corinthians 14:40 - Let all things be done decently and in order.

In reference to the scriptures concerning accusations against elders in the church, there are Biblical avenues to handle this. The best approach is to speak to the pastor directly, in a meek spirit. Let him know your concerns. If this doesn't work, or if the pastor refuses to assist, the matter can be addressed to a council of elders (also known as the district presbyters or board of overseers among other titles). If the pastor made an honest mistake or if there is a misunderstanding, then there are ways under God's word to restore the breach. If the pastor is clearly in the wrong, the council of elders will handle the matter as best as Biblically possible. Sadly, as it is often the case these days, the system of accountability is weak or nonexistent, and the parishioners end up voting with their feet.

Hebrews 13:7 - Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Hebrews 13:17 - Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Mark 10:43-44 - [43] But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: [44]And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

In conclusion, my prayer is that we realize there is a delicate relationship between the pastor and the church God has given him to shepherd. There is a standard of integrity ministers and pastors must uphold more than the regular parishioner; there is a proper manner to address problems in these areas according to the Scriptures, and thus congregation does not need to live in fear of a pastor who has gone awry.

God bless, John

[bramble]

Here is some more required readng. I actually sent a copy of this to their International HQ...bet they got mad and deleted this one!

Questioning Pastoral Integrity

One of the most dangerous comments a pastor can make is when he says "DON'T QUESTION MY INTEGRITY". In this day and time, such attitudes have led to the downfall of many ministers, often because they leaned on their own understanding and thought every decision they made was perfect. I was forced to leave a corrupt church because of this very mindset. The question to ask is this: is challenging pastoral integrity Scriptural? Who do pastors subject themselves to according to the Word of God?

Romans 13:1-7 - [1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. [6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. [7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

A lot of churches use this passage to demonstrate the role of the pastor in the ministry. However, this passage also is used to describe, to a point, the secular leadership in the community where the Christian lives. Problems arise when pastors think they do not have to answer to anyone but God for how they run their churches. Is this how the apostles did their business?

Acts 15:2 - When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

Paul, perhaps the greatest of all the apostles, was accountable to someone. When a major dispute over doctrine arose, he did not just take matters blindly into his own hands. He went before a council of elders and apostles - in our modern time a board of overseers - to ensure the matter of circumcision among the Gentiles was handled rightly. Whether the pastor heads an independent church or is part of a larger organization, there has to be some type of accountability to protect the church from being prey to abuse, false doctrine, and other problems that will scatter and destroy the flock God placed in the pastoral care.

Galatians 2:11-12 - [11] But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. [12] For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

Peter was held accountable by Paul for the wrongful manner he conducted himself around the Gentiles. Peter, despite his shortcomings, had enough integrity in God to realize when he had erred and turned the situation around for the betterment of the church. The question that must be asked is this: if pastors in today's churches are shown places where they have erred, will they humble enough to repent?

1 Timothy 5:19 - Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

Too often nobody challenges the integrity of the pastor because the pastor wrongly quotes this passage and says "do not receive accusation against the pastorship". There is a Biblical system in place to deal with these matters, and yes, there is a requirement that others have witnessed or made the same accusation. The preferred witnesses are other faithful brethren, not somebody looking for an ax to grind.

1 Timothy 5:21-22 - [21] I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality. [22] Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure.

Galatians 6:1 - Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

If a pastor or other leader's integrity is questioned, it must be done without prejudice or ulterior motives. We also must not be hasty in our actions, lest we too fall into the same pit the pastor is accused of falling into.

1 Chronicles 16:22 - Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

Some pastors misuse this Scripture to scare the congregation into never asking questions about their integrity or decisions. Some ministries have turned this passage to mean that if a parishioner dares to ask questions along these lines, then he or she is rebellious. When pastors and other church leaders misuse these passages, they set themselves up to be above everyone else. That is not biblical. While God calls pastors along with prophets, teachers, apostles, and elders, they are still flesh and blood and subject to temptation - just like those in the pews. When we think we are so above temptation and everything else, then pride sets in.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

1 Corinthians 10:12 - Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

One does not even need to look into the Bible to see where great men fell. Our world today is littered with fallen ministers who thought they were so far removed from temptation that they went into sin anyway, and eventually got caught. The pastors of the megachurches in particular drew the most publicity, and have tainted the image of Christian ministry to the masses. Ted Haggard's fall from grace was especially well-documented when his sin found him out. None of us, regardless of position, are above anyone else, and must be accountable...to God first, and to the ministry.

Romans 14:12 - So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Romans 14:16 - Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

2 Corinthians 6:3 - Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:

This does not mean that the man of God will not make a mistake or have a slip of the tongue. However, the man of God in particular is especially held accountable for his actions as the souls of other people are in his care.

1 Corinthians 14:40 - Let all things be done decently and in order.

In reference to the scriptures concerning accusations against elders in the church, there are Biblical avenues to handle this. The best approach is to speak to the pastor directly, in a meek spirit. Let him know your concerns. If this doesn't work, or if the pastor refuses to assist, the matter can be addressed to a council of elders (also known as the district presbyters or board of overseers among other titles). If the pastor made an honest mistake or if there is a misunderstanding, then there are ways under God's word to restore the breach. If the pastor is clearly in the wrong, the council of elders will handle the matter as best as Biblically possible. Sadly, as it is often the case these days, the system of accountability is weak or nonexistent, and the parishioners end up voting with their feet.

Hebrews 13:7 - Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

Hebrews 13:17 - Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Mark 10:43-44 - [43] But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: [44]And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

In conclusion, my prayer is that we realize there is a delicate relationship between the pastor and the church God has given him to shepherd. There is a standard of integrity ministers and pastors must uphold more than the regular parishioner; there is a proper manner to address problems in these areas according to the Scriptures, and thus congregation does not need to live in fear of a pastor who has gone awry.

God bless, John

It would be cute to send this to any of the remaining Single Men--all two dozen of them!!! I strongly agree with the above lesson.

[turningjapanese]

http://www.geocities.com/cfcmi/sexcharges.htm

http://www.geocities.com/cfcmi/ministerluredsailor.htm

http://www.geocities.com/cfcmi/ministercharged.htm




Matthew 7:15-21 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

[turningjapanese]

Psych 200

http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/artcls/socio.htm



Many thanks to the guys posting in the NTCC forums--I found this in one of your threads. Sounds like your "leader" (ironically, named Davis) and CFC's Davis were one in the same. A correlation of the two would make an excellent research paper for those studying abnormal psychology:

Narcissistic Sociopaths with repressed homosexual tendencies that result in pedophilia should not be allowed to start "churches."

[bramble]

Psych 200

http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/artcls/socio.htm



Many thanks to the guys posting in the NTCC forums--I found this in one of your threads. Sounds like your "leader" (ironically, named Davis) and CFC's Davis were one in the same. A correlation of the two would make an excellent research paper for those studying abnormal psychology:

Narcissistic Sociopaths with repressed homosexual tendencies that result in pedophilia should not be allowed to start "churches."

Doesn't that remind you of that, "Give me 200 men who don't care where they sleep, what they eat, what they wear, etc. etc. and CFC will conquer the world with the Gospel" (slight paraphrase). I read that link and can't help thinking of Pinky and the Brain for some reason. (LOL)

Are you saying both Davises are literally the same or of the same psycological profile? There seem to be many cult leaders named Davis. I may be a bit slow today.

[turningjapanese]

Same psychological profile. Same methodology. The NTCC forum reads like the old ABC.

[bramble]

Same psychological profile. Same methodology. The NTCC forum reads like the old ABC.

I find it amazing how from cult to the next cult just how similar these guys are! The founding pastor of UBF, Lee, was a lot like LRD. He claimed that if he were doing anything sinful it would take an act of God to remove him from office--just like Davis.

Well, Lee was in one house fire and survived. He figured God wanted him to reform his ways. He didn't repent. He later died from smoke inhalation he suffered from being in second house fire. He never listened to his subordinate ministers, either. He used to pull people nails out with pliers (OUCH!) His church was also based in the Chicago area. They have chapters all over Illinois and Wisconsin--mostly at universities.

Veterans of this cult tend to pick up Korean accents over time. (They look a lot like these CFC Oldheads). Lee and his pastors all came from South Korea. Americans always ranked low in their pecking order.

[turningjapanese]

Business Ethics 101:

http://www.slowleadership.org/2007/04/narcissistic-organization.html

Points to faulty business practices; most traits are found within the leaders of such organizations; the organization then inherently reflects the narcissistic mindset of it's leadership.

[turningjapanese]

Since the above link no longer works, I've replaced it with a new one!!


"Reactive narcissistic leaders are not prepared to share power. On the contrary, as leaders they surround themselves with ‘yea-sayers.’ Unwilling to tolerate disagreement and dealing poorly with criticism, such leaders rarely consult with colleagues, preferring to make all decisions on their own. When they do consult with others, such consultation is little more than ritualistic. They use others as a kind of ‘Greek chorus,’ expecting followers to agree to whatever they suggest. Reactive narcissistic leaders learn little from defeat. When setbacks occur, such leaders don’t take any personal responsibility; instead, they scapegoat others in the organization, passing on the blame. Even when things are going well, they can be cruel and verbally abusive to their subordinates, and they are prone to outbursts of rage when things don’t go their way. Likewise, perceiving a personal attack even where none is intended, they may erupt when followers rebel against their distorted view of the world. Such ‘tantrums,’ re-enactments of childhood behavior, originate in earlier feelings of helplessness and humiliation. Given the power that such leaders now hold, the impact of their rage on their immediate environment can be devastating. Furthermore, tantrums intimidate followers, who then themselves regress to more childlike behavior."

Here's the link to the rest of the article:

http://sackwinkie.blogspot.com/2007/12/narcissistic-organization.html

[gregory63]

Just like in the movies. The bad guys surround themselves with yes men and idiots. Villainy 101. lol.

[turningjapanese]

http://www.power2serve.net/narcissism_in_the_pulpit1.htm

[turningjapanese]

Check out the checklist. Pretty much describes all the Ns I know.

What follows is a check list of character traits used to identify Narcissistic Personality. If your pastor or someone else you know can be characterized by a majority of these realize you have a major challenge on your hands. This check list should be given to those who have had the closest continual contact with the narcissist. Take into consideration that some people whom the narcissist has surrounded himself with will be blind to all these, as they have either become co-dependent with the narcissist, or have blind loyalty to the ‘position of pastor.’


http://www.power2serve.net/Narcissism%20Checklist.htm


This link is awesome.

[turningjapanese]

From Chicago SunTimes 9/9/990

Three Firefighters Object to Woman in Bunkroom


Three Waukegan firefighters, bothered because a woman bunks in the same room as firehouse colleagues, have been suspended for one shift after they complained that the sleeping arrangement is immoral.

Laura Hedien, 25, the city's only female firefighter, has her own washroom, shower and locker room, and the men who work with her are satisified with her sleeping accommodations.

But firefighters Jeff Lynch, Greg Bozarth and Albert Post have complained to Fire Chief Richard Kamerad, Waukegan Mayor Haig Paravonian and 47 churches.

"You wouldn't want your wife or daughter in there," Lynch said. "It's not professional. Colleges don't allow it. Correctional facilties don't allow it. Our two hospitals in Waukegan don't do it."

"I just want to be left alone," said Hedien, who joined the department May 14. "These three firefighters are not on my shift and two of the three work in different firehouses."

Hedien said she wants to be in the bunk room because she can learn from hearing her colleagues discuss fire calls.

Kamerad and the local union president said Waukegan has had two other female firefighters and both were satisified with the same sleeping arrangements. None of the three women was the target of sexual harassment, they said.

The three protesting firefighters were not in the fire department at the time.

After the three took their complaint to the churches, Kamerad suspended them for a day without pay for insubordination. Each lost about $285 for the 24-hour shift.

The three asked members of the 47 churches to sign petitions protesting the sleeping arrangments, Lynch said.

Lynch, 30, said the three are members of Waukegan's Christian Fellowship Church and said the chief "doesn't have the right to tell us we don't have the right to pursue a matter if we think it is morally wrong."

Their petitions will be presented to the City Council and the mayor, who sent a letter to the three saying he supported the fire chief and that he believed that the sleeping accommodations are proper.

Bozarth and Post declined comment. They said they feared they might be suspended again if they spoke out.

The Christian Fellowship Church pastor, L. R. Davis, said his church "supports the stand the young men have taken. We are not against women being hired in the fire department, but we feel there should be separate sleeping accommodations.

"It is not a healthy thing. It tears down the family structure. If somebody wanted to sleep nude, there is not a law that says they can't.

"About 4,000 children a year visit Waukegan's fire stations and when they go through they will see a woman firefighter, but no separate accommodations."

Davis said the church began circulating petitions Wednesday and that he expects several hundred people to sign them.

The Rev. Rodger Foltz, pastor of St. Mark's Lutheran Church, said he sent a letter to the mayor in support of the three firefighters, but that his church board has not taken a position.

"I feel it is demoralizing not only for the men firefighters and the woman firefighter but also for their familes. Imagine how the wives of the firefighters feel and how their children would feel about it."

Rabbi William Fertig of Congregation Am Echod said he sent a letter to the mayor supporting the three "in their request for separate facilities, even if it is some type of divider or partition." He said his congregation has not taken a position.

Hedien graduated from Antioch High School and Bradley University, where she received a degree in sports medicine in 1987.

Daniel Young, president of Local 473 of the International Association of Firefighters, said the three should have come to the union first rather than going to the chief. The union's grievance committee is studying the matter, Young said.

Kamerad said, "There is a feeling that if female firefighters are segregated from male firefighters it would be a violation of equal rights." Waukegan has 92 firefighters.

The Chicago Fire Department has 115 female firefighters and paramedics in a force of nearly 5,000 and the department's policy is to treat them like males, said department spokesman Mike Cosgrove.

"The only exception we make is to put a lock on the washroom door and the shower door so the female can lock the door," Cosgrove said. "We used to provide cubicles in the bunk room when we hired our first female paramedics 10 or 12 years ago. There may still be some cubicles around."

Women use the officers' shower, sharing it with two male officers, Cosgrove said. The department has had no problems involving sexual harrassment, he added.





***Why is it that these CFCMI firemen complained about a woman in a bunkroom they didn't even sleep in, but yet cover for a homosexual child-molester, who kept his own "boy-toy" playthings locked up in an office?

WHERE is the "morality" in THAT?

Wouldn't it be "immoral" also if GAY FIREMEN had to share a bunkroom with the straight ones?

You guys make me sick.

[turningjapanese]

Sound familiar? Note the similarities. Except LR was a homo:



TEXARKANA, Ark. - Tony Alamo, a one-time street preacher who became an outfitter of the stars and fought the federal government over claims he underpaid followers for church work, was convicted Friday of taking five girls across state lines for sex.

Alamo stood silently as the verdict was read, a contrast to his occasional mutterings during testimony. His five victims sat looking forward in the gallery. One, a woman he “married” at age 8, wiped away a tear.

“I’m just another one of the prophets that went to jail for the Gospel,” Alamo called to reporters afterward as he was escorted to a waiting U.S. marshal’s vehicle.

Shouts of “Bye, bye, Bernie”

Alamo was born Bernie Lazar Hoffman — came from a crowd gathered on the Arkansas side of the courthouse, which straddles the Texas-Arkansas border.

Jurors were convinced Alamo had had sex with the girls when they were underage, but deliberated for more than a day to ensure that they considered everything, jury foreman Frank Oller of Texarkana said.

“That was the evidence. That was proven,” Oller said. “We came up with a full decision that we are quite satisfied with.”

Defense lawyer Don Ervin said the evidence against the 74-year-old preacher was insufficient and that the preacher would appeal. He also said Alamo’s criminal history — he served four years in prison on tax charges in the 1990s — “will hurt him” at sentencing in six to eight weeks.

The jury of nine men and three women found Alamo guilty of taking girls as young as 9 across state lines for sex, in violation of a nearly century-old federal law. Alamo was accused in a 10-count indictment that said the abuse started in 1994.

The evangelist could spend the rest of his life in prison, since each count is punishable by 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Sentencing will be held in six to eight weeks.

Women ranging from age 17 to 33 told jurors that Alamo “married” them in private ceremonies while they were minors, sometimes giving them wedding rings. Each detailed trips beyond Arkansas’ borders for Alamo’s sexual gratification.

Alamo never testified. His lawyers told him he should not directly challenge their testimony and they argued to jurors that the girls traveled for legitimate church business.

State and federal agents raided Alamo’s compound last Sept. 20 after repeated reports of abuse. He was later charged with violating the Mann Act, a nearly century-old morality law.

Alamo blamed Vatican

Defense lawyers said the government targeted Alamo because it doesn’t like his apocalyptic brand of Christianity. Alamo has blamed the Vatican for his legal troubles, which include a four-year prison term for tax evasion in the 1990s.

With little physical evidence, prosecutors relied on the women’s stories to paint an emotional portrait of a charismatic religious leader who controlled every aspect of his subjects’ lives. No one obtained food, clothing or transportation without him knowing about it.

At times, men were ordered away from the compound and their wives kept as another Alamo bride. Minor offenses from either gender drew beatings or starvation fasts.

Alamo remained defiant as jurors heard testimony for a week. He openly referred to the Branch Davidian raid at Waco, Texas, muttered expletives during others’ testimony and fell asleep at times — while alleged victims spoke from the witness stand and again as prosecutors urged his conviction.

In the end, prosecutors convinced jurors in Arkansas’ conservative Christian climate that Alamo’s ministry offered him the opportunity to prey on the young girls of loyal followers who believed him to be a prophet who spoke directly to God. They described a ministry that ran on the fear of drawing the anger of “Papa Tony.”

In closing arguments Wednesday, Assistant U.S. Attorney Kyra Jenner described Alamo as a manipulator who dictated everything from what his followers believed to what they could eat. At one point, she turned to stare directly at him.

“Your crimes have been exposed in this courtroom,” Jenner said. Alamo sneered and waved her away.

2009 The Associated Press
July 24, 2009, 4:18PM

From Factnet

[ddemetrius456]

I think this website is too old but has excellent articles.keep up posting.thanks:)


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[turningjapanese]

It's not "too old" if the information is relevant.

All information regarding CFC is important, proving what a dysfunctional, morally corrupt and exploitave organization it is.

Just ask the hundreds and hundreds of people that have left that place.

I'm sure you have seen the "newer" sites devoted to warning others about CFCMI. If you haven't, google it and check them out.

[bramble]

Read the following post please!
(http://wwwjustcfcmihelp.com/)

[bramble]

More required reading: http://www.justcfcmihelp.com (http://www.justcfcmihelp.com/) This is for the pure of heart, not for the faint of heart.

[John Cady]

I am glad the new "Just CFCMI Help" website is up. Yahoo announced that as of next week, the Geocities websites will be discontinued. Had Phil and James not transferred the newspaper articles, they would be lost forever.

The following articles were difficult to find, but are posted on my message board for all to read. Ever wonder how some cults get mixed up with other cults? In CFCMI's case, it was all about money. Read for yourselves.

http://cfcmi.aimoo.com/CFCMI-Blogs/CFCMI-and-Scientology-Part-1-1-83375.html

http://cfcmi.aimoo.com/CFCMI-Blogs/CFCMI-and-Scientology-Part-2-1-83376.html

http://cfcmi.aimoo.com/CFCMI-Blogs/CFCMI-and-Scientology-Part-3-1-83858.html

Yes, aspiring staffers and eunuchs, your leadership tried to pick Scientology's pockets to keep L.R. Davis out of jail. Guess what? Scientology did not take the bait.

[bramble]

John,
I hope you transferred that picture of L.R. in his pretty, pink taffeta dress.;)

[turningjapanese]

How could we get LR's mugshot?

[onetime]

“Someone on here said they saw LR's death certificate. I heard that LR suffered from an "impacted bowel", or some such thing. Wonder if that can be confirmed??”

Viewmaster, from CityData

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Impacted bowel, indeed. At first I believed your question was meant to be rhetorically humorous.
But it seems that numbered among many of his numerous physical complaints, real or imagined, I do remember vaguely that he said something to that effect.*
I will disseminate more of what I have in the seven page autopsy report, straight from the horses mouth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxAeiCA2InU

The true legacy of LR Davis.

Yes, Filthy Dick, Preying Lantis, Richard Snow, et al...and the "ministers of God" that cover it all up—you further his legacy! You are all "abusers of mankind."

How does your ass feel?

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"
1 Cor 6:9

[turningjapanese]

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20091113/US.Evangelist.Child.Abuse/

[onetime]

To help the current class of Valour College students (all two or three of them) broaden their vocabularies, we will institute a “Word of the Week” program. We originally thought about making it “Word of the Day,” but we know the students are busy busting hump to support the pastors and their families (not to mention some extracurricular humping with Professor Snow and Filthy Dick). With that in mind, we decided to back off a little.

Our first Word of the Week is “carnal.”

Carnal is pronounced: \’kär-nəl\. Webster’s says “carnal” relates to or is given to “crude bodily pleasures and appetites” and is also marked by sexuality (“carnal love”). It can mean “temporal,” “worldly,” “fleshly” and “sensual.” Got the picture?

Now class…what comes to mind here when we say the word "carnal?" Anyone?

Hellooo....

Come on class, think! …….. (sigh)

Let me help you. How about your very own church? How about CFCMI? Do you see the connection?

Very good!

Now please provide some examples, class.

“Bloated, overfed pastors and their spouses that got that way through unrestrained appetites for food.”

Good! Gluttony would be an excellent word here to describe this, but we’ll save that for a future Word of the Week.

“The hoarding of worldly accoutrements such as sporty cars, motorcycles, etc., by the pastors and their families.”

Very good! These two examples illustrate that the CFCMI leadership are in the pupa stage, spiritually speaking. They are extremely carnal in all that they do.

How about another example?

“The founding pastor, his actions and his legacy."

Outstanding! It really covers the full meaning of carnality:

Pleasure as related to the body at the expense of all else
Complete focus on the lower, animalist nature
Gratification of bodily desires
Sexual appetite without the spiritual or intellectual
Yes, not only was the CFCMI founding pastor a grossly carnal man, his true legacy is the creation of a large number of carnal surrogates and agents.

Well done class! You now have a good understanding of the word “carnal.”