| Author | Message | ||
     Penny (208.181.53.25) |
I'm not sure whether to put this under politics or religion. It seems to be related to both. Recently I've been reading David Icke's book about the World Trade Center and I'm finding his ideas very strange, as though he doesn't think the leaders of the world are human beings at all. Is this guy a mental case of some kind? Is he a cult leader, or just an individual who writes strange books? I have some misgivings about the honesty of the American government in the case of 9/11, but this guy's ideas are totally freaky! | ||
| Anonymous (217.42.127.14) |
He isn't a mental case - read more of his stuff and you'll begin to understand him. His books are written as he uncovers information. Try starting with 'I am me. I am free' or 'And the truth will set you free'. If you want to understand what he stands for try 'Heal the world'. He does have some ideas which are difficult to accept on the surface but dig deep enough into what he says and some of it makes good sense. He does encourage his readers to check things out and think for themselves. Some of his stuff is based on material which is easy to disregard e.g. he has used ideas from the 'nonsense' book 'Worlds in collision'. Personally I think he makes some valid points but is totally wrong in some areas. My wife however is prepared to accept more. He has made some statements which, if not true, demand a libel action but so far he has not been challenged in court. I can't help wonder why. Don't read him if you are a fan of George W Bush, Henry Kissenger, Tony Blaire or Queen Elizabeth II. He's not telling you that these people are bad - just that they are being controlled by a very negative source. Strange books - Yes but worth reading if you are prepared to suspend some long held beliefs. Great for conspiracy theory fans and those who are suspicious of the NAFTA and EEC. | ||
| Anonymous (69.242.21.100) |
i would like to see some DVDs with some conspiracy theories cause they do make some interesting points some questions that really do need answering , | ||
| Douglas (138.89.121.24) |
Did David Ickes write a book called Matrix or something like that? | ||
| Anonymous (217.42.127.14) |
Yes, David did write a book called 'Children of the Matrix' and it was very eye opening. I have read the book myself. Fact is, I've read almost all of his books now. The problem with David's material is you have to keep a very open mind and consider the 'what if' complex. | ||
| Anonymous (216.67.228.187) |
Icke is a conspiracy guru. It is.
I wouldn't call him a cult leader, but he does position himself as a guru. I guess it's a fine line. I'd say he's more like Dr. Phil than Jim Jones.
If I were prone to paranoid conspiracy theories myself I might wonder if David Icke were a disinformation agent. He has the aggravating tendency to consider all resources as equally valid, including his own "spiritual research" (which could not be anything but subjective).
This is rather how I feel about David Icke, and part of why I find him useless except as entertainment. I cannot accept a fact backed by a citation from the Harvard Medical Journal in one half of a sentence, and backed by a cite from "The Trance Formation of America" in the last half. You know what they say about weak links and chains. The other part (of why I find Icke useless except for entertainment) is that he works from premises got from hunches, then attempts to "prove" them by disregarding or minimizing all information to the contrary and accepting as valid all information which fits the hunch. In psychology this is called "rationalization," the process by which we all sometimes build ex post facto logical justifications for ideas got through other means. A surprising number of conspiracist "researchers" play this game. Icke defends his own behavior on this, so he knows what he's doing. In radio interviews I heard in the run-up to "The Biggest Secret"'s release, he always qualified his advertisement with "you may not believe it all, and if so I'm doing my job" or "if even part of it's true..." To his credit, Icke lately seems to want to be taken seriously as a revisionist (alternative) historian. I don't think his last two books have as bad of a crap:data ratio as his earlier ones, and he's cleaning up his sources. His "Alice and Wonderland" book was borderline respectable! So, I wouldn't write him off completely.
How about RealMedia files? | ||
| Gavin Whittington (81.6.220.94) |
David Icke is a genius and I think he's right about almost anything, Anyone whos been brainwashed into beleiving the official version of 911 mite as well put a bullet in there own brain cos its turned to mesh anyway. try and use the brain you were born with | ||
| Anonymous (68.18.204.201) |
Is this Paranoid?? I will answer that myself that is a stupid question, no it is not. mind control which is spell-casting I hate see why: Deuteronomy 18:9-14. and I hate this too. http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/ | ||
| chuy leviticus (150.135.48.132) |
i started reading Icke a couple years ago and recognized a lot of truth in what he said. the reptilian stuff was new to me and i still haven't seen any shapeshifters up close and personal, but the theory answers too many questions to be ignored. also, i had been a born-again christian over 20 years and was irked at Icke's religious views. i was a true believer, though i couldn't help but notice the religion didn't actually work. in fact, believers tended to be the most gullible and potentially nasty people around. after two years i'm still cleansing myself of christianty. one thing about these "my way or the highway" gods is that the highway turns out to be better. | ||
| Anonymous (69.242.21.100) |
the chip is ready ...the mark ... | ||
| Common Sense (209.214.1.77) |
Please. David Icke believes that world leaders are actually evil reptiles from outer space. Here is his wackadoodle theory, in this nutbag's own words: http://www.davidicke.com/icke/temp/reptconn.html --- Gavin, take your own advice ;) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pennck/grabs/aliensmall.gif | ||
| comatoast (comatoast) New member Username: comatoast Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 192.76.80.74 |
Most of David's information that seems logical comes from other sources and he is just repeating them, especially in the book "Alice in Wonderland". He cannot come up with a shred of evidence about his "reptilian" theory and it might as well be a fable without anything substancial to back it up. He's like a tabloid except he truly believes what he is saying.  | ||
| etherdrunk (etherdrunk) New member Username: etherdrunk Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.105.49.145 |
I have begun research on David Icke and I'm wondering if anyone can help me find public opinion about him in the media. It seems as if I can't find any criticism from any type of public means. Often, there are individual view points but finding articles is sparse and I'm looking to see if anyone has done any extensive research to prove or disprove him. If so, can someone point me in the right direction and send that info my way? Thank you, Michele | ||
| msmithluvnlife (msmithluvnlife) Intermediate Member Username: msmithluvnlife Post Number: 133 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 165.247.107.28 |
Lizard people?? Queen Elizabeth? W. Bush? So, are they spirits trapped in bodies, or maybe, wearing human body suites? I've heard him before in a live interview. I have to tell you, I don't know. I'd be curious to know if Q.E. and W collect pet lizards. | ||
| saint_rahab (saint_rahab) New member Username: saint_rahab Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 4.163.163.61 |
I have read a lot of David's books and I also believe that they are eye openers. Was the serpent back in the day of Adam and Eve a real hissing type of serpent or a human being that looked like a serpent that spoke to her? | ||
| mylo New member Username: mylo Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 24.2.38.233 |
It scares me that so many can be quickly convinced of this mans imaginings. Sure he ocasionally injects truth, but that is how all cult leaders get a following... They offer a greater reality and then lead you down a path of obsurdity. Just listen to yourself say "I believe George Bush is a reptile" and that should hopefully snap yourself out of it. Icke may even be genuine, but the hale bop comet cult leader may have been too and his lies were about the same level of plausability. Hitler was right about one thing.... people are more likely to believe a large lie than a small one. | ||
| illumination New member Username: illumination Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 76.187.112.240 |
David Icke is not a cult leader. If any of you read his books you would see that he presents possible solutions to age old questions - He does not present it as hard fact. In his own words, while investigating a theory, he "follows the truth and information no matter where it may lead". He presents an enormous amount of information derived from religions, ancient scrools and writings, art works, worldwide myths and legends, shamen, personal interviews etc... then he lays out the information for you to decide for yourself. He will put forth a theory i.e. a forth dimensional (reptillian) energy actually controls the world powers (illuminati)which in turn control us. You can see the evidence he found and research for yourself - decide for yourself - actually think for yourself!! Icke encourages everyone to wake up and question our conditioned reality. He wants the human mind and spirit to be free and not enslaved. He provides evidence to who he believes our mental, spiritual and physical jailers are. His information is well researched and quite compelling. From there we can set our jailers free. He raises way to many unanswered questions about what happened on 9-11. I would love to see him interview Cheney or Bush or Rice or Rumsfeld or any other of our puppet politicians. It will never happen because he would expose them for the abusers of power that they are. Those that have not read Icke's material and then investigated the information on their own will continue to post ignorant postings here and everywhere else. "This man's imaginings" are actually extremely well researched and backed by, sometimes at the point of boredom, an incredible amount of facts. | ||
| chandrakavi New member Username: chandrakavi Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 200.86.187.210 |
David icke is well documented on everything he says, which have nothing to do with the news people get misinformed world wide daily. I don't know about the lizard blood line, but everything else has proven to be true. If what he has to say is of no importance them why are people trying to take him to court in USA and destroy his work? Politicians KNOW they are a fake, but they don't want their pseudo-authority questioned by someone who is willing to speak 7 hours daily and publish books on what he has to say. Read him, and if you can goto see him, there are a lot of his videos in Youtube, look and listen , and then make up YOUR MIND with the information he has. |
