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     anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 38 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.102.50 |
Only Impeachment Can Stop Him PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS Counterpunch Monday, January 15, 2007 When are the American people and their representatives in Congress and the military going to wake up and realize that the US has an insane war criminal in the White House who is destroying all chances for peace in the world and establishing a police state in the US? http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01152007.html | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
excuseme, but i fail to see how a man who was twice elected governor of texas, became texas favorite governor ever, was elected to the presidency, and reelected to the presidency could be this insane war criminal that you are making him out to be. | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 7 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
and please, share with me how you could possibly say that he is making the us into a police state | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
I truly do not think that impeachment is the answer, afterall the elections are in less than two years, and he cannot legally hold office any longer. That aside, I personlly believe that no one could have handled 9/11 as well as he did. He may have made mistakes in his time in office, but he is one of the most godfearing presidents we have had in a long time | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 39 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.164.55 |
excuseme, but i fail to see how a man who was twice elected governor of texas, became texas favorite governor ever, was elected to the presidency, and reelected to the presidency could be this insane war criminal that you are making him out to be. Shall I understand that you really want an answer on that? Remember that Hitler was Fuhrer for 15 years. Helmut Kohl was for 12, Bush has only 8, and with the computerized voting of 2008 or a war with Iran, he could ashure more years. | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 40 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.164.55 |
and please, share with me how you could possibly say that he is making the us into a police state Congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul has even a site on that. Police State, like the USSR or Nazi Germany: Quote: "The Neocons, through Strauss, and there is a book here if you are interested by Professor Shadia Drury... the Neocons have been thoroughly schooled in Straussian and Schmittian theory, which is basically Nazi, and these people really are neo-nazis. We have to understand that, and I think people have a difficult time coming to grips with it because it seems so alien to our tradition. I spent seven years at Harvard getting three degrees after the University of Chicago, and again going through this exact same program that produced Kissinger and Brzezinski, because I wanted to be trained exactly like these people, and think like them, know what they're up to and hopefully come out and turn it against them." http://infowars.net/articles/january2007/050107Boyle.htm Leading Academic: Neo-Nazis Have Signed Us Onto WWIII Destroying World Order: Analysing the war In Iraq and the Middle East with Dr Franics A Boyle Steve Watson & Alex Jones Infowars.net Friday, January 5, 2007 Alex Jones was joined on air this week by eminent American Professor, Dr Francis A Boyle, to discuss the current situation in Iraq, the wider implications for International Relations and the ruthless mentality of the Straussian neoconservatives that have seized global power in the twenty first century. | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 41 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.164.55 |
I truly do not think that impeachment is the answer, afterall the elections are in less than two years, and he cannot legally hold office any longer. That aside, I personlly believe that no one could have handled 9/11 as well as he did. He may have made mistakes in his time in office, but he is one of the most godfearing presidents we have had in a long time Shure, in 2 years we can be under nuclear winter. Shure he could have not handled 9/11 like him, not all presidents butcher their own populations. | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
still, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he legally incapable of holding any mor terms of office? wont the senate stop any attempt at altercationof the lws to allow otherwise? | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 42 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.105.150 |
still, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he legally incapable of holding any mor terms of office? wont the senate stop any attempt at altercationof the lws to allow otherwise? Correct me if I'm grong. Do you know that the main suspect for the 9/11 atack is vice president Dick Cheney? and that puts all the Bush administration on criminal charges of genocide? That would be enough for an immediate police raid on the White House. | ||
| crosswize New member Username: crosswize Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
Empeach, Empeach Empeach. Use the Constitution to Empeach all of them! Get them out of office. Alot of mess can be made in a short period of time by leaving them in a powerful position. I do not understand why our Congress is so afraid of this administration. | ||
| crosswize New member Username: crosswize Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
Bush Must Go Only Impeachment Can Stop Him By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS When are the American people and their representatives in Congress and the military going to wake up and realize that the US has an insane war criminal in the White House who is destroying all chances for peace in the world and establishing a police state in the US? Americans don’t have much time to realize this and to act before it is too late. Bush’s “surge” speech last Wednesday night makes it completely clear that his real purpose is to start wars with Iran and Syria before failure in Iraq brings an end to the neoconservative/Israeli plan to establish hegemony over the Middle East. The “surge” gives Congress, the media, and the foreign policy establishment something to debate and oppose, while Bush sets his plans in motion to orchestrate a war with Iran. Suddenly, we are hearing Bush regime propaganda that there are Iranian networks operating within Iraq that are working with the Iraqi insurgency and killing US troops. This assertion is a lie and preposterous on its face. Iranian Shi’ites are not going to arm Iraqi Sunnis, who are more focused on killing Iraqi Shi’ites allied with Iran than on killing US troops. If the Iranians wanted to cause the US trouble in Iraq, they would encourage Iraqi Shi’ites to join the insurgency against US forces. An insurgency drawn from 80 per cent of the Iraqi population would overwhelm the US forces. CBS reports that the news organization has been told by US officials “that American forces have begun an aggressive and mostly secret ground campaign against networks of Iranians that had been operating with virtual impunity inside Iraq.” To manufacture evidence in behalf of this lie to feed to the gullible American public, US forces invaded an Iranian consulate in northern Iraq and kidnapped five consulate officials, claiming the Iranians were part of plans “to kill Americans.” In typical Orwellian fashion, Secretary of State Condi Rice described Bush’s aggression against Iran as designed to confront Tehran’s aggression. Iraqi government officials in the Kurdish province and the Iraqi foreign minister have refused to go along with Bush’s propaganda ploy. Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari announced that the Iranian officials were no threat and were working in a liaison office that had Iraqi government approval and was in the process of being elevated into a consulate. http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01152007.html | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 17 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
anyscientologist, where do u get your information about dick cheney do you just not like him because he shot his aid?  | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 18 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
but also, do u really think that hillary clinton can do any better in office? | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
i mean, with more liberal democratic policies in office, ther would be a drop in the political and moral standard of this country | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
and yes finally i do want an answer to my first post in this thread | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 43 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.105.100 |
"anyscientologist, where do u get your information about dick cheney do you just not like him because he shot his aid?" That the drunkard shot his aide is one thing. That he is the main 9/11 suspect is more relevant: Enjoy it: Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006 The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney. Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security. ... Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, "If I had to narrow it down to one person....I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney." Bowman said that privately his military fighter pilot peers and colleagues did not disagree with his sentiments about the real story behind 9/11. Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, "I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government." Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, "Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined." http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/former_head_of_star_wars_say_cheney_main_911_suspect.htm | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 44 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.105.100 |
"excuseme, but i fail to see how a man who was twice elected governor of texas, became texas favorite governor ever, was elected to the presidency, and reelected to the presidency could be this insane war criminal that you are making him out to be." If the IRS is making US citizens to finance not only the Hiroshima and Nagasaky bombings, but also the war on Afganistan, Irak and now the nuclear war with Iran, then I would say we have dramatizing psychotic and a genocidal in office. Do you know Hitler was the best known man in Germany, the Fuhrer? | ||
| funnygeorge Junior Member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
ok please stop comparing bush to hitler, there is no comparisom whatsoever hitler slaughtered 6million jews has bush done anything neat that bad, no now what gives these people, Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006 any standing of importance on this topic? And finally, are u sure your not just basing your whole dick cheney thing on the movie Farenheight 9/11? | ||
| crosswize New member Username: crosswize Post Number: 22 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
This administration is heading us right into WWIII and if there is anyone out here who cannot see what is happening, I am ashamed of your ignorance and it is easy to see why the United States will fall. They use to say the United States would be a country that would never fall. I believe we had better start preparing for China or Russia to be the next most powerful nation because it isn't going to be the US. Better start taking your paper money and putting into silver or gold so you can save what you have. When the new currency comes out it will be a ratio of 4:1. Four dollars to buy one new dollar in currency. That is how much our dollar is worth right now. | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 45 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.100.19 |
"ok please stop comparing bush to hitler, there is no comparisom whatsoever hitler slaughtered 6million jews has bush done anything neat that bad, no " Sorry, it is their own pals who compare them to nazis and Hitler: Quote: Boyle continued, "The Neocons, through Strauss, and there is a book here if you are interested by Professor Shadia Drury ... the Neocons have been thoroughly schooled in Straussian and Schmittian theory, which is basically Nazi, and these people really are neo-nazis. We have to understand that, and I think people have a difficult time coming to grips with it because it seems so alien to our tradition. I spent seven years at Harvard getting three degrees after the university of Chicago, and again going through this exact same program that produced Kissinger and Brzezinski, because I wanted to be trained exactly like these people, and think like them, know what they're up to and hopefully come out and turn it against them." From: Leading Academic: Neo-Nazis Have Signed Us Onto WWIII Destroying World Order: Analysing the war In Iraq and the middle east with Dr Franics A Boyle Infowars.net | January 5, 2007 Steve Watson & Alex Jones http://www.infowars.com/articles/ww3/leading_academic_neo_nazis_signed_onto_ww3.htm "now what gives these people, Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006 any standing of importance on this topic? " Want an answer? "And finally, are u sure your not just basing your whole dick cheney thing on the movie Farenheight 9/11?" What's it about? | ||
| funnygeorge Junior Member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 30 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
fine, i dont care if they liken bush to hitler, there is no need to perpetuate that. yes I want an answer you havent seen it? The dick Cheney thing aside, Do you really think that, as I said earlier, a democrat in office will help anything, i.e. change for the better? | ||
| bear Advanced Member Username: bear Post Number: 743 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 24.247.159.231 |
Anys. is a minority. Always well be, and not the correct minority. Peace will never be achieved by men, never! | ||
| bear Advanced Member Username: bear Post Number: 744 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 24.247.159.231 |
Here sre some thoughts: 1. Anys. is a conspiracy theorist; the proverbial dime a dozen. 2. Bush is a stand up leader. He shows his true leadership by making the hard decisions; real leaders do not listen to the opposing voice of the masses. 3. Only in the mind of the conspiracy theorist, would Dick Cheney be a suspect. 4. Hitler killed people that he thought were inferior. He invaded lands to rule, not to oust a dictator. He killed millions to satisfy his warped mind. Anyone that compares Bush to Hitler is ignorant of History, ignorant of what we are trying to accomplish in the Middle-East, and ignorant about life in general. 5. 20 years from now, Bush will be looked upon as a great leader. History will prove that what he sent out to do was correct. 6. The Democrats have an opportunity now to show us what they are made of. What will history say about the position oriented, people pleasers that have a voice today? 7. Bush will not be impeached! | ||
| fullofquestions Intermediate Member Username: fullofquestions Post Number: 189 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.57.32.25 |
Plus W loves Jesus, Amen | ||
| funnygeorge Junior Member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 32 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
thank you bear, you are correct in saying that cheney could only be a sus pect in the mind of the conspiracy theorists | ||
| crosswize Junior Member Username: crosswize Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/bohos/bohofact.html Given the veil of secrecy that surrounds the Bohemian "encampment," a reporter needs to enter the grounds covertly in order to get a full portrait. Mathison entered the grounds three times July 1991, aided by activists from the Bohemian Grove Action Network. He witnessed a speech -- "Smart Weapons" -- by former Navy Secretary John Lehman, who stated that the Pentagon estimates that 200,000 Iraqis were killed by the U.S. and its allies during the Gulf War. Other featured speakers included Defense Secretary Richard Cheney on "Major Defense Problems of the 21st Century", former Health, Education and Welfare Secretary Joseph Califano on "America's Health Revolution -- Who Lives, Who Dies, Who Pays", and former Attorney General Elliott Richardson on "Defining the New World Order". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy) http://www.businessbookmall.com/American%20Dynasty.htm http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/ Hmmmm! Tunnel Vision??! | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 46 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.105.212 |
The democrats? they are as murderous as the neo-cons. Pellosy is an acomplice of George w. Bush crimes on her denial of impeachement. there are polititians opposed from the start to the police state, those are good candidates for the presidency. Hillary and the Democrats? they are involved in the Mena Arkansas drug running coverup, where Clinton was the Capo di Cappi. | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 47 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.105.212 |
"Milosevic's trial was coming to an end and the only verifiable evidence to emerge from it was proof that the real Butcher's of Serbia were Wes Clark and Bill Clinton. The US government's financial and military support of Al-Qaeda, after the embassy bombings, was also being exposed." Milosevic Autopsy: The Murderers Clear Themselves Move along, nothing to see here Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | March 17 2006 http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/170306milosevicautopsy.htm | ||
| funnygeorge Junior Member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 34 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.8.254 |
anyscientologist, i think you have spent way too much time reading about and studying conspiracy theories. Why dont you read some real evidence, real political truths and then continue posting. Bear: what do you think of rudi guilianni as a presidential candidate for '08 | ||
| bear Advanced Member Username: bear Post Number: 754 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 24.247.159.231 |
Funnygeorge, I think that Guilianni is a great candidate. Regardless of ones political views, no one can honestly deny his leadership ability. I think that he has a better shot of getting the nomination, than Sen. John McCain. | ||
| ihavesinned Senior Member Username: ihavesinned Post Number: 2801 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.17.78.60 |
The bar for impeachment has been set very low. Clinton lied to investigators about getting a hummer, and was impeached. Clearly Bush is guilty of bigger lies at every level, no conspiracy theory necessary. The American public knows this, and the Democrats swept the last election. Scooter Libby's defense is going to be that he was the fall guy for Cheney and Rove in the Valerie Plame case. Not a stretch to believe that, since the Bush administration is so compartmentalized. Outing a CIA operative in retaliation for her husbands opposition to the phony case for Nigerian uranium could be an impeachable offense. Especially in view of how the WMD issue went since the invasion. Bush should probably be impeached just for appointing Mike Brown to head up FEMA. Or for what he has done to science standards, or manipulating climate data. Or selling federal protected land to a mining company for 800 dollars a square mile. Take your pick. He is unquestionably the dumbest president in modern history. He can barely even speak English. Half of the American public gave him the benefit of the doubt, but that support has died. His numbers are a low as they have ever been. If 9/11 had never happened, we would still be talking about the secret energy policy meetings, Enron, and the rolling blackouts of 2000. In fact, some Democratic leaders still want to investigate the energy policy meetings that Cheney went to the supreme court to protect. I doubt that Bush will be impeached, simply because the criminality of his administration is so widespread, there is not enough time left to even investigate it all. | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 48 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.109.137 |
Quote: "anyscientologist, i think you have spent way too much time reading about and studying conspiracy theories. Why dont you read some real evidence, real political truths and then continue posting." Try this: MSNBC Describes Cheney as "War Criminal" David Edwards and Mike Sheehan Raw Story Wednesday, January 31, 2007 Boston Herald reporter Mike Barnicle, appearing on MSNBC's Imus in the Morning show, describes Dick Cheney as a "paranoid, arrogant, and now, thankfully, frightened Vice President of the United States." Barnicle, a regular guest of show host Don Imus, also praises Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) as "an original" and "a guy grounded in reality" who'll be a plus for the U.S. because "at any given time he is liable to reach across the aisle or reach across the desk in front of him and choke the person that he's dealing with." The Herald writer often tempers his heated opinions with humor, as does Imus, who describes Cheney at one point as a "war criminal." http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2007/310107Columnist.htm Don't call facts a conspiracy theory. bear "I think that Guilianni is a great candidate. Regardless of ones political views, no one can honestly deny his leadership ability." Shure Hitler had a undeniable leadership ability too. "I think that he has a better shot of getting the nomination, than Sen. John McCain." Birds of a feather. | ||
| anyscientologist Junior Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 49 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.109.137 |
Quote: "anyscientologist, i think you have spent way too much time reading about and studying conspiracy theories. Why dont you read some real evidence, real political truths and then continue posting." Try this: MSNBC Describes Cheney as "War Criminal" David Edwards and Mike Sheehan Raw Story Wednesday, January 31, 2007 Boston Herald reporter Mike Barnicle, appearing on MSNBC's Imus in the Morning show, describes Dick Cheney as a "paranoid, arrogant, and now, thankfully, frightened Vice President of the United States." Barnicle, a regular guest of show host Don Imus, also praises Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) as "an original" and "a guy grounded in reality" who'll be a plus for the U.S. because "at any given time he is liable to reach across the aisle or reach across the desk in front of him and choke the person that he's dealing with." The Herald writer often tempers his heated opinions with humor, as does Imus, who describes Cheney at one point as a "war criminal." http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2007/310107Columnist.htm Don't call facts a conspiracy theory. bear "I think that Guilianni is a great candidate. Regardless of ones political views, no one can honestly deny his leadership ability." Shure Hitler had a undeniable leadership ability too. "I think that he has a better shot of getting the nomination, than Sen. John McCain." Birds of a feather. | ||
| crosswize Junior Member Username: crosswize Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
 "Amen!" | ||
| bear Advanced Member Username: bear Post Number: 757 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 24.247.159.231 |
anys, What is with the Hitler thing? You libs are all the same; too much hot air, false accusations, and pended up anger. The real "birds of a feather". At this very momment, high profile Dem's are showing their arrogance, and true "feathers", by staying politically correct in order to secure a place in the parties run for the Presidency. I do not think that you truly understand what leadership is all about. I would also be willing to bet that you have never lead anything in your life, because a true leader does not spout of worthless biased media documentation to make a point. MSNBC...please, like that is not the libs network. | ||
| ihavesinned Senior Member Username: ihavesinned Post Number: 2805 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 71.112.177.253 |
"I do not think that you truly understand what leadership is all about." It seems that "leadership" has taken on a whole new meaning as of late, so maybe you're right. "I'm the decider" I think was W's latest explanation for his actions. Even republican congress people have publicly taken issue with that remark, and with his Iraq policy in general. Praying for help, making it up as you go, and lying about it are hardly sound leadership principles. Meanwhile, we have not been "led" to Osama, Mullah Omar, etc. You know, the guys behind 9/11. Instead, we're bogged down "spreading democracy" in Iraq. By removing Saddam, we have eliminated Iran's biggest regional rival, and emboldened them to get more involved in Lebanon and Israel (and Iraq). Oh, and BTW, Iran actually does have a nuclear program, and a bomb design from the Pakistani A.Q. Khan. Remember our ally Pakistan? Pakistan who didn't even imprison Khan for selling bomb designs all over the world??? I'm really staggered that anyone would defend Bush at this point. I'm surprised he hasn't just given up and let Dick take over. I think he'd rather be clearing brush than thinking anyway. That's not to say I agree with the Hitler comment - Hitler was more intelligent, and a far better leader than Bush. Bush doesn't seem sinister, just ineffectual. | ||
| anyscientologist Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 53 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.101.15 |
"That's not to say I agree with the Hitler comment - Hitler was more intelligent, and a far better leader than Bush. Bush doesn't seem sinister, just ineffectual." I apologize, I was rude on Hitler. | ||
| funnygeorge Junior Member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 36 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.2.130 |
are u condeming hitler or supportiing him? | ||
| crosswize Member Username: crosswize Post Number: 63 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
What I have noticed on the "conspiracy theory" stuff is this. If you have been awakened with some of their claims, and you watch the U.S. House, CSpan, Fox News, MSNBC and CNN you will be able to see bits and pieces of these conspiracy theorists stuff begin to come out of the closet. A piece over here on CNN, then US House, MSNBC and so on. It is amazing how all this subtle hidden information brought to light by these conspiracy theorists, is beginning to shine even in mainstream media. But you know the old saying "Time will tell!" | ||
| anyscientologist Member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 63 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.105.42 |
But you know the old saying "Time will tell!" shure, but you can look by yourself before time tells you. Time didn't tell on the Kennedy asasination, only hard investigative work did. "are u condeming hitler or supportiing him?" Hitler is a paragon of criminality and mass murder, but he had inteligence... | ||
| crosswize Member Username: crosswize Post Number: 64 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
What I mean to say, is for those who can not see, it will take time for them to tell. I am just amazed to see mainstream media beginning to show us some hidden stuff like they are. I wasn't sure if that was something we would ever see. I have to give some of them a pat on the back. It is to bad there are some who have not had the insightful experience of the "Red/Blue" pill. | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 2054 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
"He may have made mistakes in his time in office, but he is one of the most godfearing presidents we have had in a long time." My personal view is that “the god thing” IS the problem. As long as everything he does he believes is god's will, or condoned by the almighty, is very dangerous indeed. With all the new war toys at his disposal he can certainly prematurely bring about the legend of Armageddon; and his and the Christian Fanatic Right’s rush to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just look at what the Christian fanatics and right wing politicians have done to victims and the economy just through the “religious” Corporations of Amway - Quikstar - Britt and the hundreds of thousands of devastating pyramid "spin offs" they spawned now hitting the news daily as they collapse "like dominos" under a mathematical impossibility, with trillions in losses world-wide. The Mormon Church; LDS dominated State of Utah now legalizing this extreme danger to the domestic and world economies and spreading it like a virus through the church. Wherever there exists religious tunnel vision and narrow-minded justification for obvious wrong-doing, and the power to carry it out, there will always exist great problems. This is but the humble opinion of one not formally highly educated but who listened and learned from his grade 10 teacher who said… "If I do nothing in this class but teach you to think, then I have fulfilled my roll as an educator" dave | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 2055 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
Because I was taught to examine facts, test theories, project trends, and simply THINK, using common sense, it makes it easy to differentiate between highly educated intelligent people explaining the complicated truth, and highly educated intelligent people "yanking my chain." Bush is a “chain yanker” notwithstanding he doesn’t fit the description above and I think he’s also a “bit“simple.” That was obvious from the beginning and the “Jib – Jab” “This land is your land, this land is my land” cartoon song, captured accurately the essence of basically the whole situation. http://www.atomfilms.com/afassets/flash/this_land.swf dave | ||
| crosswize Member Username: crosswize Post Number: 65 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
When he gets so powerful in dictatorship he diddles with time, it makes you ask a lot of questions. I find it interesting that congress just lets him walk all over them. I wonder what their hidden agenda is???????? Maybe it this? United States Code TITLE 15 - COMMERCE AND TRADE CHAPTER 10 - WAR FINANCE CORPORATION Section 331 to 374. Omitted (Message edited by crosswize on March 20, 2007) | ||
| funnygeorge Junior Member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 37 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.2.130 |
do you believe in God gatordave? | ||
| gatordave Senior Member Username: gatordave Post Number: 2063 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
Not the one I see represented here, and here. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=church+pyramid+scheme&spell=1 And that question is irrelevant to the work I'm doing, besides which I would ask of these so called Christians I witness, do they actually believe in God or just falsely profess they do! | ||
| carlota Senior Member Username: carlota Post Number: 1237 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 74.65.196.24 |
Can there possibly be people who still believe that Bush is truly a God fearing man, and that even if he was that that somehow qualifies him to be a good leader of a nation where people are free from a State sanctioned or imposed religion? Bush's relationship to God is neither here nor there with regard to his job as president of the U.S. I would even go so far as to say that a true God fearing man would be a pacifist, not a war monger. If Bush was a true God fearing man he would tell the truth, he would be open to dialogue with his enemies, instead of condemnation and murder. Bush has innocent blood on his hands and if you can square that somehow with being God fearing, well, then apparently being God fearing means very little these days. Also, on the impeachment thing: other presidents have been impeached for way less than this President somehow manages to get congratulated for. | ||
| crosswize Member Username: crosswize Post Number: 68 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.57.158 |
Carlota, You tell it like it is! Amen | ||
| funnygeorge New member Username: funnygeorge Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 12.12.2.130 |
hey carlota, do u realize that this country was founded by people who were god fearing? digest that for awhile, then post again Gatordave, how will u know if they are true Christians or not until u urself are as they are? Dont judge unlees you have experience | ||
| gatordave New member Username: gatordave Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
I don't have to becoma a Nazi to observe and understand what one is. All this "don't judge" B.S. is just plain ridiculous. It's necessary to make judgments every day you "brainwashed fools." If you see your neighbor with body parts strewn all over his backyard do you not make some sort of judgment, idiot? Discussing anything with some of you people is like talking to a three year old. Problem is people like you are dangerous indoctrinating others to think like you. Teaching children not to question anything some "white clothed" freak calling himself a man of god teaches them or some filthy rich alpha bit@h brainwashing them out of their possessions and worse their reasoning and judgment, is dangerous. Only a few steps from the "koolaid." Start using the brain you claim this God of yours gave you. | ||
| seacher New member Username: seacher Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 71.53.114.32 |
You are right we do make judgments everyday, it’s what we base those judgments on that matter. If I saw body parts all over my neighbor’s yard, as you so elegantly put it gatordave, I might assume he had just massacred all the neighbors and rush over and wipe him out. When in reality it may have been his family killed by an intruder. We have to get the facts, all the facts before a judgment is made. I want my children to question everything, but I want them to filter the answers they receive through the Word of God. Granted many have perverted it and many have and will continue to exploit it for their own agenda. But when you get right down to it, it doesn’t matter if you believe it or not, it’s still the truth, and one day we will all be judged by one who has all the facts and His judgment will be eternal. | ||
| gatordave New member Username: gatordave Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
That's what you believe. Right now I am trying to expose and stop the obvious crooks. And I believe "that is a good thing." dave | ||
| seacher New member Username: seacher Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 68.187.175.54 |
Once again you are right. But with so many "crooks" and "highly intelligent chain yankers" out there it would be near to impossible to expose them all. I have found that when people know the truth, the lie becomes obvious. It also helps keep the blood pressure down.  | ||
| gatordave New member Username: gatordave Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
We do far more than our part to expose as many as we can. The only way people are going to know the truth and find the lie obvious is to be told. That and watching the likes of "Benny Hinn" taken down" dave | ||
| gatordave New member Username: gatordave Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.39.120.51 |
And on and on it goes until it finally corrupts all. http://journals.aol.com:80/richardbk8/TheSentryNewsDigest/entries/2007/05/07/bushs-cruelty-trickle-down/1862 dave | ||
| crosswize New member Username: crosswize Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 70.113.58.20 |
excuseme, but i fail to see how a man who was twice elected governor of texas, became texas favorite governor ever, was elected to the presidency, and reelected to the presidency could be this insane war criminal that you are making him out to be. He had stick note votes on the bottom of his shoes. Didn't you see the childrens book his daughter wrote and his wife read on mainstream media. he stole votes from Ducky with sticky note stuck to the bottom of his shoes. That's how he won it. stealing votes with corrupt voting machines. WAKE UP SHEEPLE! | ||
| anyscientologist New member Username: anyscientologist Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 189.141.101.108 |
The electronic voting sistem is a case of fraudulent elections, and Hillary conunts on that too. "excuseme, but i fail to see how a man who was twice elected governor of texas, became texas favorite governor ever, was elected to the presidency, and reelected to the presidency could be this insane war criminal that you are making him out to be." If you hit the people with a false flag atack on them, like 9/11, you can achieve that, only for a limited time. When people find the truth, then he better asks Hilter how to make it easy... | ||
| charpays New member Username: charpays Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.40.143.86 |
It is clear that Bush isnt the the sharpest tool in the shed, I'm just gonna say that hes really stupid, cause people who voted for bush might not get the first line i typed. If any of you enjoy recession, or inflation right know. or enjoy watching american's get blown up everyday than go ahead and support bush, when your on the list to get canned at your job or you can't pay your mortgage or you just can't afford to live in america anymore, or the value of the dollar is less than a mexican peso, are you gonna run for the border or are you gonna do somethin? Don't wait till dumb a@@ george bush has ruined are entire country act know start protesting- if any of you on here support george bush your either really stupid or just ignorant "hey the terrorist threat is red alert know" Gotcha ya-  people who vote or support bush are naive and the kind of people who beilieve anything they see on tv lol | ||
| charpays New member Username: charpays Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.40.143.86 |
WHY DO WE COMPARE BUSH TO HITLER instead of killing 6, million jews hes killing over 6million muslims not to mention are won us troops were sent to the slaughter, for what where are the weapons sweetie? why does the US need to have a prescence thier? for oil and greed your so stupid open your eyes you christian freaks, you beleive whatever the goverment tells you so naive, you probabably also beleive 9-11 was an actual terroist attack right? in all the video tapes of 9-11 how come there wasnt any planes filmed where is the parts of these so called crashed planes, a plane just doesnt crash and disapear- im not stupid are you? | ||
| charpays New member Username: charpays Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.40.143.86 |
the only reason why bush won is because the voting machines used to calculate the american votes diebold are actually owned by dick chenney, so you see its easy to cheat when you hold the cards |
