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dowen (dowen)
Intermediate Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 189
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 24.153.234.187
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 5:12 pm: | 
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"I'm not exceptionally well-informed on present politics, and I don't watch the news, so I can only base my opinion of the Republican mindset on what I have observed among my family, friends, and aquaintances."
I'm not that well informed myself so we can agree on one thing at lease!
I am sorry you don't watch the news, if you did you would see what a sham the entire democratic party is.
"When you bring up a problem that has formed under the Republican administration, they always blame it on the previous Democrat who was in office."
I am not sure about what you're speaking of, I do know that our current prez inherited a recession caused by Mr. Clinton, a white house that had zero respect, and a government that failed to lock up Bin Laden when it had the chance, a skeltonized military, amongst many many other things.
"If you question the actions of Republicans in power, they respond with "my country right or wrong", and refuse to look at any problems."
President Jefferson took a man he felt was a traitor out onto the white house lawn and shot him. Has he been demonized for that? If asked why he did it and his response had been "for my country" would you have accepted that as a valid answer?
"They are presently engaged in a campaign of hate and scapegoating against the homosexual population. Anyone they disagree with is labeled "queer"."
Please....
That is nothing but a flat out lie. Get a grip friend.
"Anyone who thinks differently than they do is automatically assumed to be a Democrat."
Sheesh, have you personally spoken with every Republican!!??
"They care nothing for separation of Church and State, and have aligned themselves with the religious right in order to strengthen their power base. I know athiests who at present are spouting fundamentalist crap because the Rep. party does."
Our country was founded on Christian principles, if you truly want to divide church and state, you need to burn the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution.
"They refute the evidence presented by members of the scientific community warning of global changes which threaten the environment and ultimately the welfare of the human race."
Global warming is a farce and a lie. It is nothing more than a tree-huggers way of fooling himself into thinking he can change the course of history.
"They believe that the private sector is better equipped to deal with the problems of the poor, despite the record of history."
What!!???
Look at the way "big government" has helped the folk devestated by Katrina! Talk about a record of history!
"They take every advantage handed to them by the government, such as Medicare and Social Security benefits, and try to prevent the Government from earmarking tax dollars to help future retirees and the poor."
Just another lie.
"They are opposed to any government programs that might regulate wages or the redistribution of wealth to the working poor."
No, we are opposed to Communisim! It seems you endorse Communisim yourself though...
"They support the privatization of Social Security, which would result in the inability (for many working poor) to recieve food stamps and medical benefits, as IRA savings are considered during the application, and the cut-off point for eligibility is extremely low; if I'm not mistaken, around $1500.
This will take many, many, many people off the food stamp and medical aid rosters."
I am a young professional, I know that I will NEVER NEVER EVER EVER receive back a penny I have had stolen from me by my government. I have sero faith in SS as it stands today. Privatization is the only thing that would make me change my mind about SS.
"Historically, the private sector has done very little to help the poor. Rather, the private sector, as in Big Business and Religious Organizations, has a long history of taking every possible advantage of the working poor. (remember Child Labor, no minimum wage, consumer price hikes during shortages.)"
Good Grief lady, it is NOT the governments job to give hand outs! It IS the governments job to create an atmosphere and a culture that the poor can rise from their situation and take care of themselves! Giving handouts to the poor only make them poorer. This is how I see it. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach him to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
That's the Republican Party I know.
(You're queer by the way, lol) |
dowen (dowen)
Intermediate Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 200
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 24.153.234.187
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 5:40 pm: |
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Thank you Polly for deleting your opening post on this thread. That shows what a coward most of you Democrats really are.
Look who's representing your party guys!
Someone who ducks and runs whenever opposition comes his/her way.
Thank your lucky stars that our current Prez doesn't do the same!
Viva Bush!
lol |
am2 (am2)
New member
Username: am2
Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 137.3.122.49
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 5:56 am: |
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The GOP is taking this country tto hell. I want a democratic congress again. |
am2 (am2)
New member
Username: am2
Post Number: 3
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 137.3.122.49
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 6:00 am: |
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Bush made Sadam out to be sunch a threat, but what about N. Korea and Iran. They HAVE wmd. But bush and his fortune 500 cronies have more to gain from invading Iraq. No wmd, no 9-11 link. That just goes to show how stupid republicans and bushies are.
Four moron years!!! |
osirus (osirus)
New member
Username: osirus
Post Number: 4
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 137.3.122.49
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 2:19 am: |
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We need do do away with the religious right. |
skeptik (skeptik)
Junior Member
Username: skeptik
Post Number: 32
Registered: 2-2005
Posted From: 207.69.137.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:39 pm: |
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Yes, since the Contract on America, the country slowly went down the tubes. With the "election" of W, this country has been going down the toilet. |
franklin (franklin)
Advanced Member
Username: franklin
Post Number: 862
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 71.49.13.0
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 9:24 pm: |
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We need do do away with the irreligious left. |
am2 (am2)
Junior Member
Username: am2
Post Number: 39
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 137.3.122.49
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 2:25 am: |
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amen skeptic. We need to keep religion where it belongs, in the church and home. |
am2 (am2)
Intermediate Member
Username: am2
Post Number: 119
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 137.3.122.49
| | Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 3:25 am: |
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The republican game plan
LIE
ATACK
CUT BILLIONARE TAXES
GET JEB ON YOURSIDE
GET DIEBOLTON YOURSIDE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
ihavesinned (ihavesinned)
Advanced Member
Username: ihavesinned
Post Number: 693
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 71.112.180.149
| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 1:39 pm: |
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"Thank you Polly for deleting your opening post on this thread. That shows what a coward most of you Democrats really are. "
Here is a brief list of some prominent pro-war republicans and their military service.
President George W. Bush
Pilot, Texas Air National Guard, 1968-1973.
(5 years and nobody saw him there)
Vice President Richard Cheney
No military service.
Colin Powell, Secretary of State
US Army, 35-year career, Vietnam, rose to the rank of 4-star general.
Richard Armitage, Deputy Secretary of State
U.S. Navy, Naval Academy, 3 combat tours in Vietnam.
Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense
U.S. Navy, 1954-57, pilot, flight instructor.
Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense
No military service.
George Tenet, CIA Director
No military service. (not really a pro-war repub)
Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor
No military service.
Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the House
No military service.
Tom Delay, House Majority Leader
No military service.
Bill Frist, Senate Majority Leader
No military service.
Rick Santorum, Senator (R-PA)
No military service.
Jeb Bush, Florida governor
No military service.
And here's a few pro-war pro-right commentators:
Rush Limbaugh, Radio talk show host
No military service.
Bill O'Reilly, O'Reilly Factor host
No military service.
Sean Hannity, Hannity & Colmes host
No military service.
Ann Coulter, writer & commentator
No military service.
Do you see a trend emerging? I'd be careful who you are calling a coward if I were you. } |
dowen (dowen)
Intermediate Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 342
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 24.153.234.187
| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 3:35 pm: |
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What in the world does Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, O'Reilly etc. etc. have to do with the fact that, by and large, Democrats are cowards?
Oh, BTW, I think it was your boy Bill C. that was involved in something called draft dodging...
And, don't you think it was cowardly of Polly to make a grand statement of how evil Conservatives are, then when I challenged her she deleted her post... |
ihavesinned (ihavesinned)
Advanced Member
Username: ihavesinned
Post Number: 703
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 71.112.180.149
| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 3:47 pm: |
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I didn't see her statement, I just thought it was telling that all the neo-hawks were distributed draft deferments during Vietnam. Only two of them served, and Powell , with the highest rank , has recanted and admitted that his speech to the U.N. was fundamentally flawed.
If all democrats are cowards, then clearly, the republican leadership is no better. I'm sure Clinton did dodge the draft, that's a gimme, but I'm not the one calling half of the country cowards. And once again, "Clinton did _____" is not a valid excuse for anything happening today. Remember he took his knocks, and was impeached.
I just threw in the talking heads for fun, and because they hold a lot of sway with people like you. |
dowen (dowen)
Intermediate Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 343
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 24.153.234.187
| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:43 pm: |
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Who in the heck do you think you are???
"People like you", you haven't a clue who or what I am.
You are entertaining though....I got a kick out of your treatise over on the JW thread. I have to agree with that one. |
ihavesinned (ihavesinned)
Advanced Member
Username: ihavesinned
Post Number: 709
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 71.112.180.149
| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:59 pm: |
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People like you quote rush limbaugh dude. |
munchkin (munchkin)
Intermediate Member
Username: munchkin
Post Number: 191
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 62.255.32.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 3:56 am: |
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didn't the recesion happen after Bush got into the white house, and hadn't the economy beem strong till that point. According to official figures anyway.
now if i can find the web site agian (had a virus lost all my bookmarks am slowly building back up what i had before and som enew ones) i'll post the link, but the figures and graphs were pretty conclusive.
Also making sweeping statements like all democrats are cowards, is alittle ahrsh . I know democrats who are in Iraq now, facing what many here would face in a nightmare. many who served in WW2, Korean, Vietnam, first Gulf war, many other miltary actions. So i wil call you on that dowen and say right where is your proof
" That shows what a coward most of you Democrats really are."
after all if a similar sweeping statement was made against republicans most republicans on this baord woudl demand proof, then mock if they didn't feel it was provided, so proof, why say most dems are cowards?
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dowen (dowen)
Intermediate Member
Username: dowen
Post Number: 345
Registered: 4-2005
Posted From: 24.153.234.187
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:40 am: |
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Hey Munch',
There are several points I would like to make and thanks for the opportunity you have provided me.
First of all, a poster who goes by the handle of "Pollyana" posted a list of her observations about Republican's mindset's at the top of this thread. I came ambling along and stumbled across her hateful, biased, unfair and simply uneducated post and decided to respond. My response is now the first post on this thread, why? Because "Polly", the day after my response, deleted her opening post, who knows why.
Here are a few quotes from her post;
"If you question the actions of Republicans in power, they respond with "my country right or wrong", and refuse to look at any problems."
That statement is simply wrong. IHS loves to demand people read the 911 commissions report, which I believe was very indepth look at "problems". You guys can't have your cake and eat it too!
"They are presently engaged in a campaign of hate and scapegoating against the homosexual population. Anyone they disagree with is labeled "queer".
That is just stupid... Come on guys.
"They believe that the private sector is better equipped to deal with the problems of the poor, despite the record of history."
Can I say Katrina?
Wasn't that a collosal failure of big Government?
Now to me coward comment.
Here is what I said "That shows what a coward most of you Democrats really are."
(note the italics)
Polly couldn't respond to my remarks so she deleted her challenge. (or she is just a troll)
She is one of many, she likes to spew her nonsense and then not be held accountable for it. (I must give IHS props here, at least he stands behind what he says. There is not very many like that!)
Look at many of the Democratic leaders. They say all kinds of junk, then when they are challenged they back down or change their tune.
IMHO I see many Dems licking their finger, holding it aloft to see which way the wind blows then deciding their course. That is not the behaviour of a leader, it is the behaviour of a ship without a rudder!
You can say what you will about G W and his policies, but you must concede that he sets a course and sticks with it. THAT I like! It is the same in business, religion and all other aspects of life. When a person does one thing one day, another thing another day and still another on the next he is what is commonly known as 'spineless'. When I look at the Democratic leadership, I see a lot of spineless people...or cowards if you will.
God Bless,
DOwen. |
ihavesinned (ihavesinned)
Advanced Member
Username: ihavesinned
Post Number: 739
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 71.112.180.149
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:00 pm: |
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""They are presently engaged in a campaign of hate and scapegoating against the homosexual population. Anyone they disagree with is labeled "queer".
That is just stupid... Come on guys. "
Yeah that's a bit misguided, but there is and was a campaign to use the gay issue as a wedge. It is intended to polarize people and bring out the conservative vote. It worked when W ran for Gov. of Texas, and it worked again in 2004. It's one of the things I couldn't understand-why people on the Repub side were so concerned with what gays are up to. Abortion I can kind of understand-some people consider a fetus to be the same as a person. But the gay marraige issue makes no sense to me. |
am2 (am2)
Intermediate Member
Username: am2
Post Number: 221
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 137.3.122.49
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 3:26 pm: |
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You beat me to it IHS. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Asscroft avoided the draft. Theses noehawks dont serve, they send others off to die. When I look at the republican leadership, I see alot of braindead idiots. |
munchkin (munchkin)
Intermediate Member
Username: munchkin
Post Number: 198
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 62.255.32.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 7:43 pm: |
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well dowen, one, in political leadership, it is useuall for most leaders, to be well slimey, or stupid or both, GW is one of the privaledged few who are both.
saying Most (which was addressed and quoted before hand) is still a sweeping generalisation and regadless of whether or not you were replying to a troll, the best way is to avoid lowering to their level.
[quote]That shows what a coward most of you Democrats really are. "[quote/]
although you follow with a list of supposed democrat leader cowards, nowhere do you specify that leaders is what you meant, which considering especially in the current climate of politics in the US many of the militry are democrat, so especially crass, generalisation.
Example i could say that judgeing by Bush jnr, all top republicans have below average IQ's are too stupid to read a coherent sentance, and have no idea how to handle world politics.  but it wouldn't be accurate now would it?
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