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     Anonymous |
Anybody have any experience with this. It is a non-profit California Corporation out of Marin county and Sonoma County. Somebody close to me has become obsessed with this organization and has spent 1500-2000 dollars (Im sure even more money since the time of this writing) attending weekends with older males in the mountains releasing the testosterone he apparently has built up. They claim to take young male adults 13 to 20-something away for the weekend in the mountains and turn them into men. They claim that young males and older males problems are raging hormones and testosterone build up. They create a raging roaring fire and encircle the male and taunt them to release or "go off" as they put it. Then they restrain or hold back the individual. This seems to be some type of rage release technique. After attending a weekend with this group the man in my life returned with bruises all over his upper body from either restraining an individual or being restrained himself, and no voice from yelling. I also noticed that since attending these weekends it became easier for him to "go off" or enter into a "rage state" at home. The more someone does something the easier it becomes to repeat the behavior. They also burn sage because it supposedly cleanses the soul and cleanses spirits. They enter Tee-Pee's and do indian chants. They compare the weekend to the indian cultural practices where they send a young man out to the forest for an amount of time and he returns or becomes a man. The man I know is now obssessed with indian culture and the small amount of indian heritage we have in our family and believes that he is an Alpha-Male and a warrior. He has assumed some role of being the Chief of the apartment complex he lives in. The heirarchy of the organization seems ideal for a cult. They have weekends away for the parents, men mentoring men meetings, weekends for women as well. I've learned that after attending these weekends the young male is not allowed to discuss anything that went on with anyone other then men in YMUW they are given a list of men to call and they are only to talk to them. Since attending this stuff the man in my life has become obssessed with being a man. I AM A MAN, he thinks of women as lesser individuals, that are "only good for making lists and controlling situations." They say that men should only talk to women about how the woman's day was. He recently was looking into finding a mail order bride from the phillipines because they are "submissive" in their culture as he puts it. I've also learned that the young male is deprived of sleep during these weekends, one young man only got 6 hours of sleep the whole weekend. It was probably the first night. I'm certain but can't confirm that they blind fold these kids too. He burns sage all the time. Sounds well and good the whole idea taking these young men and mentoring them to become real men but something is not right. Apparently the man I know has mentioned he now knows millionaires when I asked him where one of them made his money he didn't know. I would guess from this non-profit corporation. Also, the man I know wants them to start paying him a salary. He's been paying them to participate taking time off of work to participate. Attending men mentoring men weekends. It consumes all of his time. Since being involved with this group the man I know took a 13 year boy, blindfolded him and took him somewhere down to the beach. His mother allowed the man to do this. This is one of their practices. A week after he blindfolded the child the child was hospitalized in a psychiatric facility, as a result of beating his mother. He punishes his 12 year old son by socially isolation, and alienating him from his extended family, by humiliating him in public, made him do push ups in the middle of a parking lot for something the boy had no control over, has made him do 50 jumping jacks with no shoes on hot pavement, he has poured ice cold water on him, and threatens him in other ways. The point is he is using the techniques he has learned from YMUW. He tells his 12 year old son not to talk to women including his mother, he is only to ask his mother how her day was, his son has told us his father has told him that , "he is training him to become a man." and most recently I quote, "my father is training me not to think for myself." His son can't make a move without talking to his father first. His son is scared to death of him and knows something isn't right but is too immature to get a grasp of it. I also want to mention that at the time the man in my life was approached by this organization he was very recently separated from his wife of 10 years, who moved out of state with both his children. He was depressed, confused, vunerable. Anybody have any experiences with this? Also, YMUW has a link to the Nation of Men, Nation of Men is the same as Eyes of Men, Go to http://www.eyesofmen.com click on the link to Sterling Institute. Although I can't directly confirm it, I know YMUW or World Institute of Human Development, Inc. is affiliated in some way, shape, or form with Sterling. The verbatim and techniques within the organizations are very similar To learn more about Sterling go to http://www.rickross.com/reference/icsd/CSD7.html Anyone have any experience with this group? | ||
| Anonymous |
This group is crazy. I checked out the website. glad theyre not in mass. | ||
| Anonymous |
Have you had any personal experience with this group. Do you mean Massachusetts? | ||
| Anonymous |
This group actually seems to be out there in mass I assume you mean in larger numbers. Y.M.U.W. will eventually lead to Sterling, follow the following sights to see 1st learn a little more about sterling at: http://rickross.com - this is a cult awareness website either click on Sterling Institute at top right hand of home page or go to an open letter about sterling at http://rickross.com/reference/icsd/CSD7.html Now that you've learned about Sterling check out the Eyes of Men or Nation of Men website at http://eyesofmen.com read about, "Who We Are" then go to "Pre-NoM History" Pre-NoM stands for Nation of Men http://eyesofmen.com/articles/men/prehistory.htm If you search more on Eyes of Men or Nation of Men website you will find a link to YMUW. I am positive the men in both organizations are affiliated Likewise you will find a link to Eyes of Men or Nation of Men - same thing at the Young Men's Ultimate Weekend site. There numbers are growing Their techniques are coersive and mind controlling | ||
| Anonymous |
I am always suspicious of anyone criticizing something they know nothing about because they have not experienced it themselves. It's easy to sit in judgement, harder to understand that this might be beneficial to some people. Something that is different is not always bad, is it? You are all looking from the outside in, not the inside out. It is not a cult, it has benefitted many young men and Rick Ross may not be the best choice of mentors for you. The men in this organization have integrity and a sincere desire to make the world a better place, one man at a time. | ||
| Anonymous |
Yes I did mean massachusetts. | ||
| hotwired (hotwired) New member Username: hotwired Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.241.198.67 |
Hi I am actually a member of MDI (Men's Division International) which is a group of men nationwide and canada who have done the sterling men's weekend and choose to meet once a week to keep the stuff we learn alive. Yeah it's a pain in the butt sometimes and it gets a bad rap but it's really good stuff. Most of the "bad reports" come from men "misinterpreting" the material. There is nothing in the SMW (sterling men's weekend) about being abusive or controlling to women, etc. In fact we're taught that they are superior in every way and to cherish them. We are taught to "take back our balls" if our wives, girlfriends, etc. are running our lives. This of course can get "twisted" by men who are inherently abusive or maladjusted. I'm not sure about the eyes of men or nation of men. These groups are also men who have done the smw but I don't know what they do. Here's what we do! We meet as "teams" of 6-9 men each week. we meet around a fire. We have a "structure" to the meeting. we start with role call, find out where men are if any are missing. we "regain" our honor if we're late or have done anything in our lives to dishonor ourselves. give announcements then have a game. the rest of the meeting is dedicated to what's going on in our lives and applying the wisdom of the mens' weekend to that. We may also have ceremonies, etc. We have burned sage before but that's just something that many cultures and religions use to "purify" space, rooms, etc. But anyway feel free to email me directly with your concerns. As far as "payments" and money goes we are truly a non profit corporation. I ran all the finances for the east coast for 2 years and the money we collected in dues ($30 per man per quarter) was used to help men in need, defray the cost of leadership phone calls, etc. | ||
| anon_y_mous (anon_y_mous) New member Username: anon_y_mous Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.108.114.51 |
Hi Hotwired, I've just started dating a very nice man that is heavily involved in Sterling and MDI. I am having a trust issue with him due to his secrecy around his meetings, which leaves me feeling uncomfortable and nervous. I learned more in your one paragraph than he has been willing to tell me over several months. I want to trust and support all that he does because I know him to be a really good man. Despite that desire, I find myself easily distracted by the bad things I've read in an effort to learn more. I don't want to find out about MDI/SMW from someone with a negative opinion because I want to see it in the highest light, as the man I'm dating sees it. I don't want to build up negative energy about something that's really a positive thing. It's hard when the most readily available information is negative. I want to have reasons to support and uphold his alliance to it. I appreciate that the Sterling and MDI are very important parts of his life, where he finds a lot of strength and solidarity. I'm wondering if you would be willing to share more with me, to help put my mind at ease? Are you still involved? Do you live on the east coast? | ||
| hotwired (hotwired) New member Username: hotwired Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 71.241.200.28 |
Hi anon_y_mous! Sorry I haven't checked postings in a while. I'll make it so I'm emailed automatically. I do indeed live on the East coast. I'm a member of Sons of Maine and I have built the website www.sonsofmaine.org in fact. Obviously there is much I cannot share due to simple confidentiality which I KNOW is easy to see as secrecy. It's a pain in the *ss sometimes and my wife had the same issues with it when we first got together. (Now she's done the women's weekend). What happens is that the first year or so it's very difficult for us men to figure out what we can say or not say. We're going from what we're told, rather than using our own common sense which kicks in a little later! He'll be ok. I know for myself that when I get sick of it (and i do sometimes, like with anything else in life) I need to simply look at what the results have been in my life. I couldn't be the father and husband I am now without it, quite simply. Now that I've been in it a few years I don't get so uptight about what to say and not say. We shouldn't say anything about what goes on in our meetings about specific people because it should be that person's choice. Things like that, but again, we sometimes go a bit overboard on the confidentiality. We are just men after all! Feel free to email me directly with your questions and I'll do my best to answer them. ken@centralmaineweb.com | ||
| yaakov (yaakov) Advanced Member Username: yaakov Post Number: 587 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 63.148.234.6 |
As far as "payments" and money goes we are truly a non profit corporation. I ran all the finances for the east coast for 2 years and the money we collected in dues ($30 per man per quarter) was used to help men in need, defray the cost of leadership phone calls, etc. I'm a member of Sons of Maine You forgot to mention that in order to join the Sons of Maine, you must complete a Sterling weekend, which costs at least $700, according to your website. | ||
| give_me_a_break (give_me_a_break) New member Username: give_me_a_break Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 68.118.255.143 |
Non profit for your team maybe but not for Justin he's a millionaire thanks to all you brain washed freaks who have to recruit others or be looked down upon. Maybe you need another cold shower! Anon_y_mous, be careful it's always the "men" before the wife, kids, girlfriend, etc. You will see more and more secrecy in your relationship. These guys are taught to trust "their men" only, no on else. I'm speaking from experience here, the phone calls every morning at 7:00 AM then again at 10:00 PM certain days of the week, then the weekly meetings and the weekends, it's a bunch of bull$hit. The reason why it works for hotwired is because his wife went to the weekend, she was brain washed into being submissive to him; do as he says, stroke his ego at least three times a day, the woman is supposed to run the relationship, etc. In their minds the woman is the one who must show that she wants sex, and then the man says how and where. The whole thing is pretty messed up if you ask me. In time you will see for yourself. Hotwired, as far as being taught that woman are superior and to cherish them.....that's only for woman who have done the weekend, isn't it??!! You men need to wake the hell up, it's 2005 not 1805! A relationship takes TWO not ONE. I could go on and on about this Sterling Jerk and his followers but that chapter in my life is DONE! And NO hotwired he didn't leave me, he left all of you! Good luck to you anon_y_mous! | ||
| hotwired (hotwired) New member Username: hotwired Post Number: 6 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 70.105.249.10 |
Yes this is true. I thought it was already known by the person I was addressing, sorry for that. And to give_me_a_break, I'm sorry your experience is so horrible. Let me be clear, I think all the phone calls, etc. area a pain in the *ss too. In fact, out of the 30 or so men up here in Maine in this organization, I'm the one who gets "looked donw on" because I'm always questioning things, encouraging the men to "question, question, question" because they do quite frankly act brainwashed sometimes. It really has done my outlook on life a world of good though. But give_me_a_break I don't fault you one bit in your assessment because there are days I feel the same way. | ||
| hotwired (hotwired) New member Username: hotwired Post Number: 8 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 70.105.252.116 |
Very Inspirational. I'm sorry that so many have a poor view of Sterling and MDI. I can see why however. I'm a "card carrying" MDI man myself but always with one foot out the door. I LOVE the "truth" that is taught but we get so side tracked with "enrolling" and "phone time" and "being a jerk" etc. etc. This can be a great thing. The results of all this are SUPPOSED to be what submissive talks about. Men being men, women being women. My wife and I are dang good examples of that. However, most aren't and I'm not sure why. | ||
| hotwired (hotwired) New member Username: hotwired Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 70.105.252.116 |
Ah yes, the old "tell her how you feel without ....". See the only intention with that one is not to "vomit" all over your wife. Let me give you an example. "Honey, I had a little problem with someone at work, (be specific) so if I'm a little out of sorts tonight I aplogize". Now compare that to "Oh, jesus honey, I'm not sure I can take this son of a *** any more. I'm not sure I can even go to work tomorrow, I just can't take this sh**!! Maybe it's time to look for another job!!!!" Now, see that's all Justin is talking about. See, some men just rant and rave and end scaring their wives and then the wives are worried thinking "good god, is my husband going to quit his job?? Are we going to be able to pay the bills?? etc. etc. He wasn't telling us not to be intimate, just to get the "poison and garbage" out with our men THEN come to our wives and share in a more responsible manner. (The wife needs this to be able to manage the relationship, and all that stuff) but, ah, I love men and being a man, but sometimes yes, we mis-interpret the living "you know what" out of everything!! I'm trying to be light hearted here but I know that this "misinterpreting" causes a lot of pain and needless suffering out there and I'm really sorry for that. And yes, m'am, I will continue to do my very best to teach what I can. The only barrier is that this is a place where BIG EGOS win!! | ||
| sosad (sosad) New member Username: sosad Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 216.15.121.2 |
I am a very sad woman. I was dating a wonderful man and our relationship recently ended due to him joining this group. I say this because after his mens weekend he returned drastically changed. In the beginning he was funny, laid back, affectionate, willing to talk about anything, and always let me know he wanted me around. When he returned he was distant, moody, and barely touched me. When things finally came to blows he said its because this mens weekend brought out issues hes had buried for years and that it wasnt fair to be to be with him since he couldnt be there for me emotionally. he says he wants to be a better man and father (hes a single dad) but yet he spends more time with this group here in Mass and on conference calls with them then he does his boys. How in the hell does a group that is supposed to teach you how to be a better man and promote healthier relationships change a man so drastically without brainwashing involved??? | ||
| cyberboy (cyberboy) New member Username: cyberboy Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 64.180.223.97 |
I have recently expierenced a variation of the Sterling Mens Weekend in BC Canada. I left the weekend after a few hours on the first night. Does anyone have any information about the "mens Teams" in Canada. They claim not to be associated with the Sterling institute but many of the men have completed the Sterling Mens Weekend. The format seemed to be very simular to accounts posted on the web. | ||
| rachelengland (rachelengland) Intermediate Member Username: rachelengland Post Number: 486 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 69.128.222.206 |
sosad I deleted that message because someone I was referring to deleted his-you have choices and it's not to late to get out-I have a girlfriend whose husband is involved in this group and she's as brainwashed as he is-again as stated before your not married so it's a little easier for you to get out | ||
| cdawn9165 (cdawn9165) New member Username: cdawn9165 Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.236.95.202 |
SOSAD - where in MA is this group? My boyfriend attended his first meeting last night in MASS and I am desperate to keep him out of this????? Please write me personally - (cdawn9165@yahoo.com) | ||
| only_the_strong_survive (only_the_strong_survive) New member Username: only_the_strong_survive Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2006 Posted From: 69.181.7.50 |
I am part of a Men's Team in California and we are all graduates of the Sterling Men's Weekend. Our purpose is "To be an asset to our global community by bettering ourselves as men, as fathers, as husbands and as leaders through giving away and living the Sterling Mens Weekend." Whats so wrong about that? I could tell you countless stories of men who we sponsored to weekends that were staring down the barrel of divorce, leaving their children and wives, cheating...these men learned that none of these are options in a relationship. We hold our men to the highest standards and it is sad to see these weak minded men get brainwashed. It is always the same types. The quiet nerdy guys that go from job to job...complaining that their boss is the problem and don't take resposibility for themselves. We had a few on our team those are the ones that often used the words "cult" or "demigod." These men are all so weak minded to begin with that they think Justin Sterling is actually trying to shape them into some form and that they are losing their own identity. We follow simple disciplines and hold ourselves to higher standards. Believe me when I say that I have watched men transform after attending a weekend. It may not be for everybody...especially these weak minded men that can't control their own thoughts and look for someone to follow. Be your own man, make your own decisions. If you don't agree with someone or something then don't follow it. Myself and the men on my team are here to make the world a better place by having mothers and fathers who will do anything to ensure that they are a strong family unit for their children. | ||
| hotwired (hotwired) New member Username: hotwired Post Number: 14 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 64.222.202.207 |
Greetings "Only The Strong". I'm a member of MDI, here in Maine all the way across! October 99 Men's weekend. No washing of brain here. | ||
| submissive (submissive) New member Username: submissive Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.199.124.143 |
"To be an asset to our global community by bettering ourselves as men, as fathers, as husbands and as leaders through giving away and living the Sterling Mens Weekend." Whats so wrong about that? <<<<---let me count the ways.... 1- ALL the intimacy shared between your female partners are GONE...you take EVERYTHING to your team mates and what you give your partner is crap...the basics .. that's it...no more sharing, your group gets THAT with the reasoning "take it to the group so you don't burden your mate with the crap of life (condensed here)" 2-your commitments and promises to the group are UNBREAKABLE. Do not interfere with those commitments because your teammates will pound it into your head that your mate is AGAINST you and NOT SUPPORTING you - oh, but lets see...a training weekend is MORE important then attending a family members funeral or wedding, etc...BUT, heavens...if a MEMBERS wedding or funeral happened on the same day, you'd bust butt to get to BOTH! there could be a death to an immediate family member and your reason now is, you have an honor and commitment to the team, that person will be just as dead when you get done (forget the emotional support you give to your mate) 3-oh how I wish there were enough room to post the $50 tips from Sterling....you do realize that if the public got ahold of them, you would NOT be so 'what's wrong with us becoming better men'...you'd run! | ||
| submissive (submissive) New member Username: submissive Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.199.124.143 |
part two: 4-Women are the root to ALL your problems! If you had a set of ba**s, you'd never have let one woman treat you like crap (I say, if you WANT to be a man BE A MAN - it's not OUR fault that you don't have the ba**S!) 5-Your accountability is to your teammates - neer mind that you have a girl, a wife, etc....you ONLY stay married if you have kids, you DON'T keep plans with your girl or wife because you don't know what tommorrow holds in store, but let a member ask you to join them two years from now to do something and it's now concreted on your schedule! 6- PER STERLING, you do NOT get into a relationship that isn't short term with any woman who hasn't done the weekend. 7-pu**y costs money 8-do you want me to go on here? 9-You become better men for YOURSELF, for your SPOUSE, for your CHILDREN and THEN the world. If you want to walk around pu**ywhipped, that's YOUR CHOICE, no one makes you but YOU. 10-God states clearly, humanity is the you loving your fellow man as you want to be loved - remember the golden rule? do unto others as you would have done to you....volunteering, helping ONLY your teammates or preapproved organizations is NOT humanity....LOVING YOUR FELLOW MAN AND TREATING THEM AS YOU WANT TO BE TREATED, HELPING WHERE YOU WANT TO BE HELPED, etc..THAT'S humanity! | ||
| submissive (submissive) New member Username: submissive Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.199.124.143 |
part three: 11-bottom line here is, yes, women need to be women, men need to be men, we ALL need to return to our natural selves - womens lib has messed up so many women, it's terrible! this HAS become a throw away, get it quick or be done with it world that it's deplorable! Spend the money to learn how to be a di*k....go ahead...instead of looking within yourself, being a better person, loving those that have TRULY loved you through it all....instead of the benefits of THIS, go ahead, scream your fool head off and blame it all on women....go right ahead, it's YOUR loss... In closing, this is just a BRIEF example of the TRUTHS of this group - there ARE in all honesty a FEW and I mean a FEW men who HAVE walked away unscathed, but trust me, they will pull the wool over ANY MAN'S eyes just as easily as those who have been misled, misguided, mind controlled, etc....the sole basis is to 'get more men out there away from the evils of women's lib and back to being men..." Listen, I SUPPORT men being men...with all my heart, i feel this world has really gone to hell in a handbasket..TRUST me, I do....BUT...this group is the biggest danger against ANY committed relationship as they do NOT want you to be in one without BOTH parties joining...a 'woman' is NOT a full woman until she has done the weekend and do you know what the womens weekend entails? showing women just how screwed up they are, the errors of their ways and that the only GOOD men are the ones who have done the weekends! | ||
| submissive (submissive) New member Username: submissive Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.199.124.143 |
part four: They send SINGLE men to pick up the women who just finish a weekend PROMOTING it as a way to pick up the good ones...yep... I can give you facts, figures, what ever you want...just ask.... There are MANY ways to become a better man or woman...the number one way is, DON'T become part of this world - don't accept women being manly and don't accept men being womanly....look in the bible, it is CLEAR on what roles a man or woman are to fulfill....women, I have run the gamet of seeking that profession, being as deserving as a man, etc...did ALOT on my own because I CAN....where am I most happiest? Honoring and serving our Lord by honoring and serving my man!I don't have a 'career' any longer BY CHOICE....I PREFER to be the one that no matter what, loves my man through thick and thin, etc...this world and this group has become a 'think of yourself first THEN a relationship - real love, it doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, etc..real love stands through the tests of time.... so, with all this being said....do yourself a favor...KEEP IN MIND THAT THE MORE APPEALLING THEY MAKE THE GROUP, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE .... they will turn on you in a heartbeat if you show interest and decide it's not for you, they have your best interests and become great friends while you are deciding - gee...sounds a lot like temptation, doesn't it? anyway....make the best choice for you AND your partner...if your partner sends up a red flag, consider the facts and if you still want to pursue the weekend, you stand a 50+% chance of losing everyone who has truly loved you unconditionally for those who love you because you joined... Take care (Message edited by submissive on February 12, 2006) | ||
| submissive (submissive) New member Username: submissive Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.199.124.143 |
I have not only had to live with the effects of this, but have seen it in black and white as well as having seen them lived in the people who are devotees: (part one) Justin Sterling's Message · Society was screwed up because women have become masculine and competitive and men have become feminized. · We are going against thousands of years of genetic programming--men are the hunters, women are the gatherers. · "••••• costs money". He talked about the cost of being in relationships, divorce, etc. [Justin Sterling is divorced]. Some Rules about Two kinds of relationships: Short Term Recreational (STR) · Defined as basically--for sex only, without involvement. You should get out of a STR relationship at the first sign of trouble, but with the following exceptions-- 1. "If she gives good head" 2. "If she swallows" 3. "If she takes it up the •••". Long Term Committed (LTC) · You should never get involved in a LTC relationship until you are totally self-sufficient which means you can go without •••••. You should never get involved in a LTC relationship until you have succeeded in STR relationships. | ||
| submissive (submissive) New member Username: submissive Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.199.124.143 |
part two: Other rules/statements and/or "$50 tips": · Men don't have any emotional needs (that can't be gotten from a dog) · Men should never discuss feelings with women · Men should never do anything with women that they do with men (in a competitive sense) like play golf, tennis, etc. because women take it personally. · There is no room for competition in a relationship · Women are 100% responsible for the relationship · Women are attracted only to power and resources or the potential to get these things. · Women marry for power and resources, not love. · Men marry for love. · Men should not compromise themselves at all in a relationship. Corollary: How much you are devastated by the end of a relationship with women is a function of how much you compromised your masculinity. · Men should focus on success and only that. · Men think they are good at relationships--but aren't and shouldn't try to be. · Women are problem concentric: They need to have problems so don't try and help them solve them because they will just find another problem to ••••• about. Problems to women are status. The highest status problems lately are sexual harassment, abuse, etc. I am posting the link to where you can find this statement, but I am being as honest with you as I breath, I have physically SEEN these in writing, these are information shared ONLY within the groups...NOT for the public eye...thankfully someone DID put this on the net to get it out there....THANK YOU to who ever did! http://www.rickross.com/reference/icsd/ICSD14.html} | ||
| carsasap New member Username: carsasap Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 63.79.131.11 |
Wow I had no Idea! I went to the canada SMW 12 years ago I have not been involved with my team for over 10 years. But I could tell you that the weekend turned my life around. I would say some of the stuff they did was diffrent. Like having other men, People I called friends. To make sure you followed your goals. I was 25 years old when they helped me help myself to start my own business. I also fixed my relationship with my wife and son at that time, and now we have 4 great kids. I am sorry so many people are close minded. I agree justin is a rich man but it is well deserved. One week after going to the canada weekend I laughed at my boss, he was the one who recommended me to go. the reason I was laughing was cause I knew and so did he that I was worth twice as much. Not because of the weekend but because I was a good mechanic. I didnt figure all that out before the weekend but after the weekend I figured that out and alot more. I was making $12 before and $24 after plus started my own business a year later managed employees twice my age and figured out the absent of my father in my life was a road my kids would never see. I now own a big home on a 10 acre ranch. Been married a short 14 years to my beautiful wife. I fell I owe alot to my team and justin for guiding me the right way. I use to be very distrusting. I learned I had the problem not others. I hope the girl who has a trust issue with her boyfriend. figures out that the problem is not what he is doing but her inability to trust him. Rob "The Buddha" A Buddha is any being who has become fully awakened (enlightened), has permanently overcome greed, hate, and ignorance, and has achieved complete liberation from suffering. |
