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     Anonymous |
Leaving the "truth" of the workers and friends is so hard. One may lose their close friends and family who are still professing. Professing people sometimes tell their unprofessing children that they are "lost" unless they profess in a worker led gospel meeting. It takes a whole lot of nerve to stop going to the fellowship meetings, gospel meetings, special meetings and conventions. One has immersed themselves into the culture and terminology of the truth way. One doesn't know how to act around "worldly" or "unprofessing" people. One suffers guilt, fear, and the breakup of friendship and family ties. Workers promote the belief that worldly people in worldly or false churches are unhappy with their church and hear "God's servants preach like Jesus did" and profess and find joy. In other words, God leads people out of worldly or false churches. But Satan leads people out of the meetings and into the world! Former friends are gossiped about behind their backs once they stop going to meetings. People who "lose out" are labeled by friends and workers as "bitter", unwilling, wanting to take their own way, not willing for sacrifice and self denial, wanting to please their flesh, lost their vision of the right way, wanting an easier way among other reasons. When people leave the truth, the fault is placed upon the person instead of the group!! Workers NEVER admit that some of the friends and workers could have been kinder, more gentler and less demanding. No. The way is "perfect" and when people leave the group, they are labeled as the evil one!! Formerly professing people who write exit letters are called enemies of truth. Again the workers and friends say that nobody loses out of their fellowship as a result of someone else. The workers blame the former member for being rebellious, unwilling and disobedient. | ||
| Anonymous |
What makes the problem difficult is how some workers preach against the internet from the platform. Nathan McCarthy,Taylor Wood, Charles Thain and others have warned the friends to stay off of the internet.Of course the older workers who bash computers are the ones who know the least about the internet. But some "willing and obedient" professing people don't know that there is information written about their church on the internet. Some of the professing people still think the truth is the only right way that Jesus started because they haven't read the information that causes one to do some thinking. If more of the professing people knew that Irish workers began the truth in 1890s, then that would poke holes in the only way theory. Workers are deliberately witholding information about the founding of the sect so the members will think they are true servants continuing in the same spiritual lineage as the 12 and 70 apostles. | ||
| Anonymous |
Often when a life-long professing person from a worker-favored professing family "loses out" (term for leaving the worker's religion), the person may be shunned by current members. Professing people preach that you have to go to meetings until you die in order to have a "chance of going to heaven". Thus an older professing person (especially one who had meeting in their home) will be the topic of professing gossip at potlucks, sings and on the telephone. Professing people are afraid of worldly influences and avoid anyone or anything that might erode their faith in the workers and the meetings. That is why that unprofessing people (who aren't interested in attending gospel meetings) or former members are shunned like a disease! Professing people love other professing people who are supportive of the workers. They prefer to only be around other professing people or "people of God". Friends drive many miles to attend a funeral of a worker or professing person yet may not attend a funeral of their unprofessing neighbor across the street since he or she is "lost". The professing people are a close little club. As long as you obey the rules on dress, getting to all of the meetings, avoiding a tv/worldly objects and welcome the workers into your home, you will never find a nicer group of people on the planet. But if you start questioning or criticizing the meetings/friends/workers, then the workers and friends can be cruel to you. You may be the victim of gossip, ricicule or shunning. | ||
| Anonymous |
Many professing people feel trapped in the "truth" of the workers and friends. Some professing parents would disinherit their children for "losing out". Many professing parents favour their professing children and spend more time with them. Some "holier than thou" professing parents with their "open homes" for the "servants" can be so cruel to unprofessing children. Workers have encouraged professing parents to kick unprofessing children out of the home if they bring in a television. It is all about "keeping up the standard of the kingdom". | ||
| Anonymous |
When someone stops attending meetings, they will be blamed instead of the church. Workers preach that "the truth" is a perfect way and thus any problems the friends have "fitting into the perfect way" is blamed on unwillingness. Workers preach "willing obedience". Workers can gossip about you behind your back. And friends will also gossip about you. It is YOUR fault when you "lose out". Never the fault of the workers/friends or doctrine taught by the workers. When you quit attending their meetings, you are automatically doomed to hell unless you return to their meetings. They can be so arrogant about their way being the "only right way". A worker is always right according to many professing people. And even if a worker offends someone, they are supposed to meekly accept the insult and keep a "right spirit" about it. Questioning the workers is like questioning God. Thus the workers are secretive about their operations and actions. A worker may kick someone out of the meetings and tell the friends "he was living too close to the world and lost his vision of the truth". Bottom line; Workers don't ask people why they leave the truth and try to make things right. No. They BLAME the person for leaving claiming that people leave truth BECAUSE they are unwilling, have lost their vision etc.. The workers and friends don't want to listen to any reasons why someone no longer professes. | ||
| Anonymous |
Comments made about formerly professing people: 1. He/she was bitter and listened to the enemies of God's Truth 2. They lost their vision and started craving "earthly things" 3. They got to busy to read, pray or get to the meetings and Satan took away their "love for truth". 4. I don't think they were really "in this truth". 5. They weren't willing to DIE to world, flesh and devil. 6. Too proud for the "lowly way of Truth". 7. Disobedient and wouldn't take advice from the workers/Servants of God. 8. Putting things first before the meetings/God. 9. Unwilling to fit in and fill their place. 10. too much time spent around unprofessing friends and family and not enough time around the "people of God" 11. They didn't put enough into the truth and didn't value their place in the truth. 12. Too much time on the computer and not enough "time on their knees". 13. Developed a wrong spirit. 14. Failing to value their privileges. 15. Didn't welcome the workers or God's true servants into their home. 16. Lost their vision of the truth being the right way and starting following false ways. 17. Too involved in worldly things like sports, etc. 18. Allowing worldly influences into the home. Thus IT IS ALL THE FAULT OF THE PERSON LEAVING THE TRUTH AND never the fault of those who still profess!! | ||
| Anonymous |
http://truth.jesussave.us/writings/index.htm | ||
| Anonymous |
Leaving the truth is so hard because you also lose your lifelong friends. And professing family members may shun you or smear your name behind your back. The truth is seen as more than a religion but the perfect way of Jesus. All blame is placed upon the person "leaving the truth"(losing out) instead of those inside the system such as the workers. | ||
| Anonymous |
Worker do pressure some professing people to quit taking part in order to preserve the "unity of The Truth". Then they say the person lost out because of hardness or unwillingness. "Wrong spirit" | ||
| Anonymous |
Many formerly professing people say that leaving the fellowship of the workers and friends was the hardest thing they ever did! One loses friendship and family ties. But often in another religious setting, one can establish ties to members of their new fellowship. It gets worse before it gets better. Good times usually follow! | ||
| Anonymous |
Workers in Canada have kicked people out of their meetings and then told friends and family members that the person has "lost out" because of unwillingness, hardness, worldliness etc.. | ||
| Anonymous |
When many professing people left the "truth" in the past (sometimes today), they felt they would burn in hell since you could ONLY be saved if you were professing when you died. | ||
| Anonymous |
Professing people also state that "growing up in a professing home where the 'standard was kept' makes you more responsible. And every meeting one attends, they become more responsible according to many professing people and workers! | ||
| Anonymous |
Most professing people are related to each other-either by blood or marriage in each little "Sunday morning meeting". Many states, provinces or European countries are dominated by a handful of professing families. So when someone from a "hearty" professing family "loses out" or leaves the fellowship of the workers and friends, they lose their family and kinship ties. Some who have left the fellowship have had a hard time finding a church group that offered them the love (albeit conditional love) that they had going to meeting with their family members. So if a professing person has had all of his or her family in truth, leaving the fellowship is hard. Many professing people have limited social skills due to their "separated" upbringin where social interactions only occured amongst professing friends and family. The transition is tough. | ||
| Anonymous |
I don't think the workers want to see much "growth in the truth". More people professing would increase the exposure to the fellowship from people who might not want to stay in the group very long and report the group to outside authorities. Fewer people in Truth allows the workers to maintain the status quo. The workers are now having to defend their way more than in the past. They call it "God's way" but anyone who likes to question them and express their own views know who is in charge in this fellowship! Workers founded the truth and continue to be in charge. Elders or men leading the meetings in their absence are just figureheads. | ||
| Anonymous |
Workers have asked the friends to stop taking part in meeting for questioning them or their only way/anti-Trinity belief. Or their works based doctrine. Workers have no problem kicking people out of the fellowship and then saying the person left the fellowship by their own choice! Either you submit to the workers or you are not welcome in their fellowship! | ||
| Anonymous |
Gold Community Common Ground > MARGE'S BOARD - WELCOME ALL > FEAR New Topic Add Reply > Author Comment MargeryR Registered User (9/6/03 7:13 pm) Reply FEAR Lately I have been trying to help some people that are full of fear, so I thought maybe I should put someting on here in relation to that scary emotion. Many people suffer from panic attacks that are brought on by fear. Some of us that were 2X2's, were full of fear. I know that it was as a direct result of a great deal of fear, that I stayed in limbo for over half a Century. I feared , losing out. The reason I did not want to lose out, was because losing out, was interpreted as going to Hell. Losing out, had nothing to do with my relationship with God. Losing out, simply meant that I quit going to the various meetings etc. There are several ways that you can lose out. If you want out, or you don't, one of the best way's, either way, is to start questioning. IF you persist in rocking the boat, you will be branded as having a wrong Spirit. Your peers will be told to stay clear of you, because one rotten apple will spoil the whole barrel. Getting the cold shoulder, rejection in various forms, some down right balatant consoltations, asked to quit taking the emblems or asked not to take part in meetings, are just a few of the things that will happen to you. OF course before you get to this point, it is very normal to FEAR, what man can do unto you. Then full circle around your mind goes, to being shunned by your freinds and family if you insist on this ski slope called Hell. Fear PARALIZES. Just as sure as if someone took duct tape, and started at your hair line right down to your toes, and bound you tight, you are frozen in time. Terrified to even THINK. Bearing tremendous guilt, that you should EVEN be thinking these thoughts, tightens your bindings. Depending on your nature you have various reactions to abuse. I was born a rebel, which did not make life any easier. You could have mistaken me for a porcupine, because the least little sign of danger , up went my quills. My whole attitude, posture and expression changed. Growing up I do not remember a time, when there was not a Worker in our home, but I am sure there must have been a few lulls. I would come home from school, open the door cautiously, see who was taking up space and depending on who they were, I fled, to my room and suddenly I had three years home work to do in one night. Workers have even gone so far , as to knock on my bedroom door and ask me what I was reading. My step - father ( uncle), had offered for the work, before my dad died ( his brother). The workers interfered and told him that he should marry my mother and raise her children because that was his " rightful place ". Oh, HAPPY DAY !!! If there was anyone on this earth that should have gone in the work it was him. AND if there was anyone that wished he had gone anywhere except around me, it was me. Lordy, Lordy I was sufficated, by rules, regulations, spies, nosy busy bodies, and extreme bondage. There was no doubt that I had an attitude, and I could manage to speak volumes without opening my mouth. Then of course I got the ninth degree and was told " young lady, I know exactly what you are thinking", and the " young lady , would lie through her teeth and come up with some calk and bull story to save her life, and so it went. IT took me 43 years to get enough courage to kick the can, and spiral down to a lost eternity. The next ten years I went on a self distruct course, and if you happen to think I had an attitude in the 2X2's, or now, you should have seen me then. God help anyone that even hinted at control and to mention GOD in front of me, was like lighting a match to a drum full of gas. Fear, for some reason that I have not yet figured out, left me. I fianally knew where I was going and you can bet your bottom dollar that if I was going to burn for Eternity, I was going to do every thing possible to deserve it. I could not drink liquor, which was a huge disappointment. I either got sick, or very sleepy. However I could have a ball drinking coffee, and was soon the life of the party, and in great demand. That was not the only thing that I occupied my time with, but I have mentioned that before so, I will not go into the details at this time. I laughed more in one week than I had ever done in over forty years, and life was great. When I thought of God, I had the attitude of " catch me if you can". Little did I know that the incredible net of unconditional love, forgiveness and His extended GRACE was already " set". I was eventually going to be caught BIG TIME .;) My brother who was an alcoholic and an athiest, and had given me considerable grief during my life time, calling me among other things" goodie two shoes" , became ( Oh, MY GOOD GRIEF), a CHRISTIAN. I would have sooner he bacame a John for a brothel. FEAR gripped me, and I told him that if he was going to be STUPID enough to be RELIGIOUS, he HAD to be a 2X2. ( I was never brain washed, HA). I had alway's beleived that it was the ONLY WAY, but there was no way one this green earth, that I could live it. Well it took my brother five years to get the duct tape off this mommy, one painful inch at a time. We had some horendous battles. At one point I refused to allow him in my house. Imagine telling Me, that God is LOVE ? :rollin God was FEAR. God was GUILT. God was disscouragement. God was an Ogre. God was depression. God was, never having any fun. God was dressing and wearing my hair a certain way. God was staying away from the WORLD. God was staying away from dances, parties and movies. God was, in short a very big pain in the neck, and I wanted absolutely nothing to do with him. It took me a long time to fully realize that the God that I have described does not exist. It has been stated that we can only help others as far as we have gone ourselves. When I finally discovered that iIhad been in a Cult, for over half a Century, I simply had to do something to justify that. Working, trying to help people get free for the last thirteen or fourteen years, was the only way that I could justify that. The people that are in this JAIL, are innocent. They have not committed any crimes. The jury has come in with a guilty verdict, when in fact each person is guiltless and deserves to be free. False Witnesses have put them behind bars. Under this system there is no mercy. Judgement and condemnation are the name of the game. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT. May each and every one of you be FEARLESS, FREE, and embrace the Kingdom that HE so longs to give you, without,PRICE. IT IS FREE. Love Marge MargeryR Registered User (9/7/03 9:00 pm) Reply Re Copies From 2X2 List Here are a couple of posts that are on the 2X2 List, on the subject of fear. Anyone relate ? Subject: Fear Hi everyone, Whenever the word Fear is mentioned, my ears (well I guess it would be my eyes here) perk up! I am by nature a fearful person. I think all of us are afraid of something, but some of us may be more fearful than others just by our nature and personality. As a refresher, I am currently professing but with a LOT OF QUESTIONS! I know for sure that what got me to profess when I was teenager was FEAR. I feel sure that a lot of what has kept me in is FEAR of going to a lost eternity. I did love God and felt sure this was His way, but it wasn't until the last year or so I think I am finally getting to understand salvation. What I really dislike is those scary Saturday nights at convention or at some gospel meetings.. It doesn't always happen, but it has happened enough where a worker scares the daylights out of everyone, and then asks any who would like to to stand up and profess. And afterwords everyone is smiling and congratulating the person(s) who professed. Maybe that is what some people need, but for those of us who are fearful already we DON'T need that. What usually happens to me is that I come out of there feeling for sure there was no hope for me with God. After all, I have been told that not even all the workers will be saved. There goes my chances. Perfect love casts out fear.....I have read and read this verse. One time it will mock me, the next I think well since I have fear I don't have perfect love and therefore I don't have God, etc. etc. I think when I finally realized that there is nothing I can do to earn my salvation, that is what sets a person free. Not to do what you want, but in sincere thankfulness and gratitude devote your life to God. So...it is this type of thing that is turning me off the truth. That and this is the only way you can ever get to Heaven. To me these things are becoming great stumbling blocks that I somehow have to get around. I just hope I can somehow. MargeryR Registered User (9/7/03 9:05 pm) Reply Re: Re Copy Two From 2X2 List Subject: Re: Fear on 1/9/03 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous at wrote: What I really dislike is those scary Saturday nights at convention or at some gospel meetings.. It doesn't always happen, but it has happened enough where a worker scares the daylights out of everyone, and then asks any who would like to to stand up and profess. And afterwords everyone is smiling and congratulating the person(s) who professed. Maybe that is what some people need, but for those of us who are fearful already we DON'T need that. What usually happens to me is that I come out of there feeling for sure there was no hope for me with God. After all, I have been told that not even all the workers will be saved. There goes my chances. * Not necessarily maybe all you have to do is not be like some of the workers??? That could work... But seriously I understand about the 'good worker-bad worker' routine. We had one guy who was into it in a big way. Another trick he had was, at union meeting ask all those who had not taken part in testimony (our union meeting would have around 100 people) to stand and sing the last hymn. This used to annoy me so one Sunday I stood up and said "Well I don't have anything to say but I'm just standing now so that I don't have to stand for the last hymn". Well it seemed to have an effect that I hadn't thought about,- all the others who normally wouldn't take part in such a large gathering stood and said something too. The funny side was that after the meeting the worker came and thanked me for getting them started! However reality must have sank in or someone may have pointed it out to him as he stopped the practice thereafter. Anyway I think somewhere about there I lost my awe of the workers..... Perfect love casts out fear.....I have read and read this verse. One time it will mock me, the next I think well since I have fear I don't have perfect love and therefore I don't have God, etc. etc. I think when I finally realized that there is nothing I can do to earn my salvation, that is what sets a person free. Not to do what you want, but in sincere thankfulness and gratitude devote your life to God. So...it is this type of thing that is turning me off the truth. That and this is the only way you can ever get to Heaven. To me these things are becoming great stumbling blocks that I somehow have to get around. I just hope I can somehow. * I hope you find your way around those blocks....for myself (and I've heard others say the same) leaving is a process. It like learning anything new, it takes time before you gain confidence in what you are doing. the main thing is enjoy your life and ask what sort of God would want you to have a fear driven life? | ||
| Anonymous |
Some professing parents set the "standard of righteousness in their home" so high that once professing teens go off to college, there is an urge to make up lost time. I think the workers could be more understanding of teenagers and not push the dress code, entertainment ban, marriage ban and other baloney. Many professing young adults have erred due to the fanatical teaching of their youth. I have seen formerly professing people abuse drugs, cigaretts, alchol, and sex when a more sensible upbringing could have helped things considerably! It burns me up to hear workers bashing music, radios, televisions, sports and other things when speaking in either meetings or conventions. | ||
| Anonymous |
If you leave the fellowship, professing relatives will shun you and tell you that you are going to hell when you die. Why? Because you no longer participate in their church! That is all that matters. Going to their meetings, taking part, having the workers over for a visit etc.. | ||
| Anonymous |
It is as if God only cares about "professing people" who attend and participate in the meetings of the friends and workers. You would be suprised to know that the workers and friends often say that "God only hears the prayers of His people". His people means those who go to worker appointed meetings held in homes. | ||
| Anonymous |
God's way means the religion of the friends and workers. They will actually say it is not THEIR way but GOD'S WAY! And how this way doesn't appeal to their human reasoning either but they fit into God's way. God's people are friends and workers who attend meetings in homes, have worker visits in their home, go to annual conventions and obey the workers. Plain and simple. If you no longer belong to this group, you are lost! Headed for hell. | ||
| Anonymous |
Some people profess to please professing relatives. Some professing parents have kicked unprofessing children out of the home for bringing a radio or television into the home. Professing parents have disinherited unprofessing children from their will. Once the older (over 60) generation has "gone to their reward", the Truth will either disappear ro change so radically that it will be totally different from the exclusive, legalistic, and secretive sect of today. | ||
| Anonymous |
There is some pressure for children to profess during a gospel meeting or Saturday night meeting of convention. Especially if a worker is telling story about a young person who "left the truth" and died "outside the truth". Professing people believe that you will lose your salvation if you leave their meetings. So you better stay in the meetings until you die in order to have a "chance of going to heaven". | ||
| Anonymous |
Leaving the fellowship of the workers and friends can be especially hard if all of your relatives on both sides are professing. And if you were reared in a home where the workers were upheld as being "closer to God" than the friends. If you had limited friendship with unprofessing people growing up. It is difficult. | ||
| Anonymous |
Professing people have renounced all ties to unprofessing people when they professed. And those born and raised in the fellowship have NEVER had close unprofessing friends. So when you decided to quit going to meetings/professing, it is hard to make friends with people who don't belong to the sect. Professing people are taught that people outside their fellowship are lost, blind, unwilling, bitter, confused, hellbound etc.. You don't just start making unprofessing friends at school or work overnight. It takes time. | ||
| Anonymous |
The fear of hell (lost eternity) keeps many of the professing people inside the Truth. Eternal separation from God and professing relatives scares the hell out of many "in the Truth" religion. For many professing people, the thought of someone from another church going to heaven would make them laugh their butts off!! Going to worker sanctioned meetings is the most important thing to a professing person. | ||
| Anonymous |
I am hoping that more and more younger professing people will see through the sect! Maybe they will either leave the group or if they remain professing, they will not follow man made rules and traditions. And if a minority wants to remain in the group and promote legalism/exclusivism, they will not be successful at changing the minds of the non-exclusive ones. It makes no sense to push a doctrine that claims to be the true church and its ministers are closer to God than any other human beings. Hello! Funny how customs, traditions and beliefs vary among locations and generations. The "truth" ain't the same the world over is it! And the "spirit" may not be the same either! The Truth is Ok for a religion if you can accept that God can work with other people outside the fellowship. It is too bad that some in the "perfect way of Truth" think God cannot work in someone's lives unless they profess and go to meetings. And uphold the standard of the fellowship. | ||
| Anonymous |
If you were reared in a strict professing home where the "standard" of the workers was kept, leaving truth can be harder than any other decision you will ever make in life. Leaving the "Truth" fellowship means 1. Loss of close friendships with currently professing friends and relatives. 2. Professing people will talk about behind your back and acknowledge that you are lost and headed to hell (they call it a lost eternity). 3. Loss of security of belonging to the only "true church" on earth 4. Fear of going to hell since the workers have preached against "leaving the fellowship" Losing out is a big fear among professing people. They fear they won't be faithful enough and "lose their love" for God's way. Some professing people reared in relaxed professing homes can leave the fellowship unharmed while others suffer emotional scars for many years. | ||
| Anonymous |
Workers consider someone as a "weak saint" if his/her meeting attendance begins to drop over time. Professing people are expected to get to every meeting possible. Settled professing people cannot understand why Satan causes people not to "value their privileges of meeting in the home". I have heard older professing people talk about how thankful they were for the wonderful day when "God's servants found me when I was lost in sin". Professing people with sporadic meeting attendance (even gospel meeting attendance) will be considered spiritually inferior. | ||
| Anonymous |
I grew up in a home where "losing out" meant you would go to hell if you didn't return to meetings when you died. When someone stopped going to meetings, you would hear rumors about why they "lost out". Professing people cease any friendship with formerly professing folks. Former members may eventually get some respect if they become "interested in the meetings and show respect toward God's servants". People who stop professing are considered worldly, unwilling, bitter, too involved in the things of this world, blind, confused, mixed up, etc.. Unless you were reared in this fellowship, you cannot understand how hard it is to stop going to the meetings and attend another church!! Workers preach that ONLY through them can one have a "chance of being saved". Professing people don't know if they are saved or not until they die! Workers reject eternal security and being saved. Professing people feel they must be more faithful. They feel they must deny self. They must get to every meeting and apply what they hear in the meetings in order to be saved. Professing people stress continuing on in the way in order to be saved. Professing people feel it is very easy to lose your salvation through neglecting meeting attendance, reading, praying etc.. Professing people often speak of a "struggle against the flesh". Since professing people are thankful for a revelation of truth, they cannot understand why someone could be born into the only true fellowship and then turn aside!! | ||
| Anonymous |
Workers sometimes kick someone out of the fellowship and then tell the other friends that this person chose to stop going to meetings. Believe me, I know many instances where this has been the case. If a young person doesn't obey their edicts on dress or entertainment, they may make the young person angry or feel unwelcome in the meetings. Again there is no consistency in this no name church! NONE! Weak or borderline saints who look or act "worldly" are often pressured to stop going to meetings. Workers fear some weak professing person might contaminate the fellowship. Workers have no problem kicking dissenting members out of the "Truth" fearing that a questioning saint might be a bad influence upon some outsider who might be interested in getting to the meetings!! Workers want an image of a perfect way. That is why they kick anyone out of the truth who doesn't meet their approval! | ||
| Anonymous |
http://www.cephasministry.com/ex_2x2_b.html | ||
| Anonymous |
There are lots of formerly professing people who no longer go to meetings out there! All you have to do is E Mail some of them or participate on these message boards. There are E Mail lists and gatherings of formerly professing people in various areas. Before the "truth" websites became available, professing people felt alone if they questioned some of the rules, traditions and doctrine of "The Truth". Warning: Some workers and friends can be hostile toward anyone who points out any weaknesses in their "perfect way". They may shun you, smear you, talk about you behind your back, write letters to other people questioning your spirit etc.. It is a no win situation. Professing people stick up for each other! Older friends have so much faith in the workers! Questioning the workers and their nameless sect is scorned by many professing folks. If you have a run in with the workers, it is YOUR fault and NEVER the fault of the workers! | ||
| Anonymous |
Workers don't appreciate people who ask them hard questions. Workers are often very hostile toward anyone asking them why we do or don't do something. Workers claim that a "true" child of God has their "life on the altar of sacrifice". A true child of God doesn't go in for the things of this world like sports, music, entertainment, or anything that the workers disapprove of in the home or life. Workers question the faith and even salvation of people who want to avoid sacrifice, dying to the world/flesh/devil, etc.. You see the workers believe their way is the way of God and "God's way requires sacrifice and self denial". Workers condemn those who want to "compromise with the world" and take an "easy way". I have heard workers speak about people wanting to "cut corners" and "allow the world into their lives." Workers and friends feel other churches seek an "easy way" and don't want to die, submit, obey, and go against their flesh or human reasoning. Workers question professing people who crave "the world"! Even though the workers say "it is not our place as God's servants to tell people what they can or cannot have in their homes", don't believe this for a minute. Professing people are supposed to be finding joy in doing without television, worldly clothing (up to a worker to decide this), and other designated "worldly" pleasures. Professing people are supposed to be "dead" to the world to the point that these things no longer interest them. I think the workers miss having a stable homelife and family thus causing them to interfere in other people's homes!! | ||
| Anonymous |
Workers and friends can say some ugly things about people who leave their fellowship! You hear the following statements made about you behind your back: They lost out. They are now on the outside. They are a bitter enemy of God's way. They lost their vision. I don't know if they really saw very much or not. I wonder if they really got it in the beginning. They listened to an enemy of truth poison their mind toward God's way/people/Servants. They spent too much time on a computer and not enough time on their knees. They wanted to take their own way. They wanted an easier way. The lowly way of self denial and dying to the world, flesh and devill didn't appeal to them anymore. The lowly way of truth was too low for their pride. They wanted place in this world and didn't value their place in "God's way" or kingdom. They didn't submit to God's servants for the sake of unity in the kingdom. It is sad how Satan can blind people from seeing God's way. A little disobedience, a little hardness and pretty soon they are out into the world again. They never really got victory over the world. They had too many worldly friends who kept them too involved in this world to go to the meetings. They gave up in the struggle. They didn't continue. They had a bad spirit toward chastisement from "God's servants". They didn't value their privileges of getting to the meetings and pretty soon they lost their desire to go to meetings. They weren't willing to pay the price to be different in the world-They never forgot what they "gave up in Egypt". I hope they will have no peace until they return to God's way. I hope they don't put off making their choice again and die outside the kingdom. They didn't want to take part in the sufferings of Jesus and wanted to be popular in the world. They were too busy-not enought time to read, pray, go to meetings and all. They never died to the world. They always retained a love for worldly things. They are confused. They no longer recognize God's true way which is sad. I saw her at Wal Mart and she was wearing jogging pants. They always kept a television hidden in their bedroom. They didn't want to fit into God's demands for their life. ----- Funny how professing people will say this stuff behind one's back and yet deny it to their face when challenged about it! | ||
| Anonymous |
The workers discourage professing people from marrying "outsiders" or non-members. Thus several professing families in an area are connected to each other. So when someone "loses out" or stops going to meeting, they don't have many friends or family members. And often professing people have a hard time engaging in friendships with unprofessing people because they don't know much about popular culture-tv, music, movies or even current events. Professing women may suffer from a low self esteem following the worker's dress code! Professing women dress so plain and many of them are so embarassed to look so plain and dowdy. Some professing people do feel they have to remain in the "Truth" even when they are unhappy. It is hammered into one's head that leaving this group means leaving God!! | ||
| Anonymous (157.89.46.110) |
Workers, friends, meetings, conventions etc. This no name church places so much importance on itself and its people! where is the place God/Jesus should have in their worship? | ||
| Anonymous (141.214.17.5) |
A cult is a cult is a cult! | ||
| Anonymous (209.27.62.170) |
THE TRUTH is no CULT, I don't think you'd have made it out alive if it is a cult!!!!! "Mans' wisdom leads into a maze..." | ||
| Vicki (216.104.73.149) |
Cults don't have to kill the body, they kill the mind. Legalistic rules that twist the soul...Confuse the mind....the tongue is sharper than the sword...and many are being lead to the very hell they are trying to avoid...so yes in a way this cult kills........at Jesus judgement throne. | ||
| Anonymous (157.89.46.110) |
Most professing friends will tell you that they "fear" "losing out". This belief is hammered into their heads as professing babies in meetings. The fear and torment that people experience when they first stop going to meetings will ease with time. It is easy to leave a mainstream church like Baptists or Methodists because they don't claim they ALONE are God's only true way! Many professing friends consider leaving their fellowship to be the same thing as leaving God! | ||
| monet (monet) New member Username: monet Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 67.173.202.225 |
okay someone please help me out. i have been going to the truth gospel meetings and bible studies ever since i moved to dallas in november. i am really curious about the " ". I really don't even know what to call it since it is not a religion. i have a hard time calling it a cult because that just scares the crap out of me. my mother is worried that im getting too involved but so far no one has approached me with anything out of the ordinary. i have not yet professed and the friends don't look down on me because of it. they have all been so wonderful to me that i am really glad that i've found them. i have been searching, i feel, for most of my 22yrs of life to find G'Ds true people and i feel like i have. i was just wondering if anyone could give me anything honestly about the " "? i know that it is hard not to be bias with a question like this but please try. I want to know everything like for starters am i in a cult? since i've found this site i've seen a lot of negative things written about the truth so i just want to know the truth. e-mail me @hyejinckss@hotmail.com | ||
| willinco (willinco) New member Username: willinco Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 71.35.54.171 |
Anonymous - (a-non-y-mous) def. Having an unknown or unacknowledged name. | ||
| charity New member Username: charity Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 24.18.95.24 |
It is hard to leave because you've been programmed to the "truth" and thus have many thoughts and ideas about what you "must do". But I can testify honestly that once you have broken the ties you will feel relieved of a heavy burden. You may be asea for awhile as you wade through all of the bogus training but as you blossom in the assurance of His love and care every day will be a delight! |
