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repentant (repentant)
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Username: repentant
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 66.79.54.78
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 1:18 pm: | 
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Jesus is coming soon! Carlton Pearson and others like him are a sign of the times. Matthew 24:11 says And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
All I know is this, we will all know the truth whether in this life or in our eternal life which will be spent somewhere. Jesus explains so clearly that hell was created for the devil (who really does exist and was kicked out of heaven because of pride)and his angels and not for man. Because man has the attributes of the devil even though created in the image of God, if he does not repent and receive the gift that God gave so freely then man will join satan, devil, Lucifer and his angels in hell.
There are so many scriptures in the Bible that state this plainly that one must choose to reject the entire Bible to accept another doctrine. Read how the Message Bible puts it in plain English in Galatians 1:6 I can't believe your fickleness--how easily you have turned traitor to him who called you by the grace of Christ by embracing a variant message! 7It is not a minor variation, you know; it is completely other, an alien message, a no-message, a lie about God. Those who are provoking this agitation among you are turning the Message of Christ on its head. 8Let me be blunt: If one of us--even if an angel from heaven!-were to preach something other than what we preached originally, let him be cursed. 9I said it once; I'll say it again: If anyone, regardless of reputation or credentials, preaches something other than what you received originally, let him be cursed.
We must know the truth for it is only the truth that sets us free. Would God have allowed a flood to wipe out mankind if what CP is preaching is the truth? What about Sodom and Gommorrah? The same judgment that sin bought in those times apply today for God is no respector of persons. We all have a choice and are without excuse. Choose Jesus today and repent with Godly sorrow. One has nothing to lose and everything to gain by trusting Jesus for salvation to not only inherit eternal life but to have the peace of God which passes all understanding in THIS life.} |
cobbrussell (cobbrussell)
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Username: cobbrussell
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 66.90.185.41
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 1:07 pm: |
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Hi, I am a journalist with a well-known radio program doing a piece on Carlton Pearson.
I would really like to talk to people who have either known Carlton personally or been to his church.
If you've been to his church, why did you stop going? How do you feel about his doctrine of inclusion?
Please contact me! |
friend (friend)
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Username: friend
Post Number: 130
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 66.162.203.195
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 1:14 pm: |
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What radio program are you with? What kind of story are you doing on him? Have you contacted him or anyone on staff at his church?
Asking people about experiences and/or pain without more information is unacceptable in my opinion. I suggest no one answer this fellow query until you have more information about where the info will be used and to what end. |
wayfaring_stranger (wayfaring_stranger)
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Username: wayfaring_stranger
Post Number: 4
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 152.163.101.12
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 7:38 pm: |
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The bible says that every knee will bow to God and then it says some will spend an eternity in hell (paraphrasing . . . use the term eternal punishment if you prefer). The two are not the same thing. Regardless . . . some will spend an eternity in eternal punishment.
The doctrine of inclusion is not biblically based.
(Message edited by wayfaring stranger on September 22, 2005) |
wayfaring_stranger (wayfaring_stranger)
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Username: wayfaring_stranger
Post Number: 5
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 152.163.101.12
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |
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Oh and confessing to God is not believing in God.
"And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal fire," (Matt. 18:8).
"And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life" (Matt. 25:46).
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life, (John 5:24).
"And these will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power," (2 Thess. 1:9).
"Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire" (Jude 7).
These men are those who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; 13 wild waves of the sea, casting up their own shame like foam; wandering stars, for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever," (Jude12-13).
"And a second time they said, "Hallelujah! Her smoke rises up forever and ever" (Rev. 19:3).
"And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever," (Rev. 20:10).
http://www.carm.org/uni/eternal_hell.htm
(Message edited by wayfaring stranger on September 22, 2005) |
gsrh (gsrh)
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Username: gsrh
Post Number: 82
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 69.209.52.17
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:52 pm: |
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Where does it say that some will spend an eternity in hell?
Scripture please |
wayfaring_stranger (wayfaring_stranger)
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Username: wayfaring_stranger
Post Number: 6
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 152.163.101.12
| | Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 6:43 pm: |
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"And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life" (Matt. 25:46).
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
But then . . .
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
We can use lake of fire instead of the term hell if you prefer. |
astoundinggeorgesays (astoundinggeorgesays)
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Username: astoundinggeorgesays
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Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 24.8.126.40
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 6:36 pm: |
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Hola Carlton Inquisitors,
First let me say that Friend has a point, but someone told me that he is a Quaker and they are the denomination that allowed that mind bending, ungodly, and yea, culture changing film to be made at their church in the East. "Its Elementary". It has gay men and women telling 7 year olds how wonderful it is to be gay and they lied to them at the "Quaker school", telling children that Michael Angelo was gay, and at least five other people and it is a complete lie. Then they used the Lion King movie to let them know that Elton is gay. They had a little girl write a story about her two lesbian mothers who she said was better than having one like other kids when she reads it to the other impressionable kids.
If you watch that movie with God's heart you can't help but be very devestated and angry.
The kids were singing "This Little Light of Mine" about gays coming out and being celebrated.
I lost my - any trust for the denomination when they "championed" the gay causes to children and then it was broad casted all over the globe on PBS. It is still being broadcast. I heard that PBS had more complaints about that feature than any other one.
Carlton is a real heretic because he is changing the meaning of the Bible.He is trying at leading people around the world into a New Age doctrine is what I think. He's been doing stuff in Afrika and in other big churches. I have been to his church and I have lived in Tulsa. He always aggrandized himself to the point where his church teachings were 5 min about the Lord and 50 min about him. I am not pulling your leg. He stopped being real focused on Jesus and talked about himself so much that a lot of knew something was wrong. Once I counted the I's and me's and there were hundreds. He is deceiving people about himself and his own motive. He will talk a lot about love and use that as a device to lure and to control.
Ministers liked him, they were friends with him and now some of them are supporting him because he is always using the word love. Yes, but we have to love God first and we do that by obeying Him and His standards. You can't take some scriptures, leave hundreds out to start a new religion that he says is a "revelation from God". Yea, if you follow him, you will supposedly get a revelation. Its a goal from his leadings. There are scriptures that tell us what to do with teachers who go into the kind of thing that he has.
We had better do things according to clarity of scriptures and not allow a dangerous doctrine in. If you like him, and you err from Christ because he is exciting or something then that is exactly what a cult follower is. He is one of the most dangerous "Christians" in the world today and he should be shut down and prayed for with mature love.
To the radio guy. If you called Charisma Life Magazine they might have some articles or there is Time Magazine (I think who called him a cult leader) one of the secular magazines did a negative article on him. I hope you find some people who will tell the truth. Post the transcript and the radio date and time so we can look into it.
I heard around Tulsa that he was asked to get off the Board of Regents at ORU and that the college kids were not permitted to ride on shuttles to his church anymore when he "came out".
He also has been meeting with some gay leaders and is "inclusive" of gays in the church without the requirement to get out of the sin. He is being more evasive these days about some stuff and his personality is fooling people.
Yea, that is what a cult is built on, a charismatic "personality". He is re-packaging an old product and making that sound like he has an answer for the masses. That is the draw ain't it? Something old and "solid or mysterious", something new that we need to find out how cool it is, and then its all about the love man, love.
How can someone contact you if you don't leave an email or phone number?
You are busy with the hurricane today I am sure and I hope and pray that you and your family will be safe bro.
Adios
George |
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