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     trustnobey (trustnobey) New member Username: trustnobey Post Number: 25 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 204.210.113.44 |
Regarding a seductive and deceitful person. She told a woman friend who was in a Masters Program at a big Bible college that she had "fantasies of giving oral sex to Carman". She was told to stay away from a particular Christian music band after the wives, that is plural, wives; told the road manager to "keep her away from the lead singer and guitar player" because she kept coming back stage univited and flirting. She cried and gossiped about the wives being unfair and the road manager having a demon. Maybe he did but she sure did and does too. She told all this to a woman minister who I will tell you about below briefly. The woman minister told her to apologize in writing and to look to the Lord for new direction in her life that was really from Him. If there is anyone who genuinely loves Carman on this thread please pray for him about this woman who is in her thirties, not married, had psychological treatment and that would be okay, but she left early and never finished. She is somewhat delusional. She is a deep phoney. She is very seductive, speaks in soft charming voice, offers favors and rides and to rub your neck or feet. She uses her eyes with waiters at tables and it is very uncomfortable. She has lied and said she was stalked on a regular basis and then told someone it was just her imagination. More like a projection. Underneath she is very controlling and violent. She is full of hate literally and gossip and has lied about herself and others. Very very hateful when it finally comes to the surface or she turns it on someone. She presents herself On Line where she has several web sites and links, as a sort of self help guru in Jesus name. She talks mostly about herself, writes poems, about dead people she hardly knew or on people she does not know like focusing on death and killings such as Columbine and 911 and other international tragedies making herself out to be sort of a prophet to cities. (Tare) She has a violent temper, speeds gets mutliple speeding tickets, bits her nails over and over and over compulsively. Goes at red lights, stops at green lights. DRives the wrong way on one way streets. If she gives you a ride she will miss the exit on purpose and take you out of your way for 45 minutes or more on a regular basis its like being held hostage. It feels "very occult" at the time and frightening like she has control of you and she is not letting go. She has said she that has the b_tch word glitching over and over in her mind and she probably needs medication to stop that problem. OR demonic deliverance. She was exposed by "five different pastors" who had discernment that she is Jezebel spirit and a minister at a major leading charismatic ministry told a young roomate to move out and to avoid this person who's name is Nancy, because of a spirit of witchcraft that is with her. She has also accused legitimate prophets or tried to use the ministry material of others without permission on a strange website she has where she talks about cell groups and herself incessantly. Just because she uses the name of Jesus, His wonderful and glorious name, over and over on her web pages doesn't mean she is submitted to him for real or is clean and a legitimate disciple. She talks about love so much that it makes you think why does she talk about it so much and why doesn't she do it. The way the Bible defines love. If she really loved Jesus she would keep his commands including not lying and gossiping or hating and being immoral. She is a dangerous person, has stalked and use accusation and character bashing to make those who have held her accountable look bad to try to hide herself. She is not a safe person in many ways and is dangerous to Carman and has a delusion that she is connected to him and protects him. Yes, he needs to be protected FROM HER. Dr. Colin Dye teaches that Jezebel specifically uses accusations, and "facts but not the truth". There is a difference. That her primary mode of operation is to attack and try to usurp true Prophets and to rival and replace. Jezebel wants power and importance and rule and priveledge. She will murder to get it and steal. He says that Jezebel hates the prophetic because the prophetic is something that God uses against the Jezebel spirit. Look at the original Jezeble and Elijah. It was only because the Master's Program student had had accurate words in the past and kept having discernment that something was wrong and asked Nancy directly asking her to promise not to lie that she finally said that she was having sexual fantasies about Carman on purpose. This is terribly wrong and probably demonic. She is very masquiline and has a strong socery countenance. She was also discerned as having an unforgiving spirit which a number of ministers call one of the great Gate Sins. Where demons can come into your life and movtivate or deceive you. She is very unrepentant and if you call her out ever in love she is abusive and runs to talk or gossip and quickly make the person look bad to protect her own darkness. If she were to admit her own violent nature and ask for deliverance from rage and Jezebel witchcraft there would be hope. She also sets people up by lending them money and then hatefully talking behind their back pretending the she was hurt by the imposition. She lied about a Sunday School teacher and said that he forced her to kiss him on a couch and stuck his tongue in her mouth. She said she let him do it because she didn't know what else to do. This is a graphic posting, I apologize to anyone offended. She is a weird and demonic person who is luring people into trusting her or pitying her and behind it is real rage and something psychotic. Please pray about her and her words or wishes or contact to Carman being overthrown and stopped by God. Please pray for pastors to discern her, where she is currently living and working (with some Christians). Also, someone, please pray hard about her accusations and the devil using her to be wiped out and made as a non existent thing. She has exalted herself into a false position and she needs to be exposed and helped. She was helped and she left it and made her self out to be a hero. She directly lied about her relocating and told hundreds of people on the web a bold faced lie. **Weary Eyed, I enjoyed what you said. This Nancy person in her thirties with the fantasies and witchcraft is wearying too. **Hopefaithlove, Can you stop talking about yourself and you are giving the impression that you own this board with your attitude and long posts. You also have a very religious relationship with Carman that is obviously out of normal balance and you are accusing people of doing things that you are doing and holding them to standards that you are not keeping on yourself. If you love Carman as much as you are acting as you do, please pray about this dangerous person who is praying soulishly about him and who knows what her delusions are in March of 2005. Please don't answer me here directly, I have read some of your posts and I don't want to interact with you personally. I won't read them. I don't hate you or anything like that, I just am extremely uncomfortable with you, especially when you talk about yourself and you have no tolerance for anyone who wants to say something about carman that you don't agree with. You call people names and reject them and only see one side of things. It isn't right. Generally about Nancy to anyone. Also she lied about another minister. A woman mininster, her name is Lynn who the Lord has anointed powerfully and strategically.Lynn reaches out to the poor, she has had many completely accurate prophetic words, she has laid hands on the sick and they have recovered, she is generous and forgiving and one of the kindest people I have ever witnessed. You can even see the light and love of Christ in her eyes. I have rarely heard anyone pray the way she does. There even seems to be angels around her home and a beautiful countenance and feeling of God's peace there. This woman held her accountable and exposed her privately and then Nancy directly lied and tried to ruin her reputation. It was very hurtful and shocking.The people who love carman can relate to that as they have prayed for him. Please pray for Lynn and for Nancy's tactics to backfire. When people pray for Lynn they become very anointed and hear from God. She is a tremendous minister and the real deal. ABout Carman. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about Carman. I respect what he has done, I am very happy that his new church concerts are doing so well. He is a lot of fun, but the other things and the way he got married and who he married, its very confusing. I feel angry about somethings but like I said I repect what he is doing to build up people's faith. If he tore down anyone's faith, I hope he prays hard, very hard and trys to somehow make ammendments. End Note Whatever happened to all of the other people who used to post here? | ||
| ems (ems) Junior Member Username: ems Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 72.130.230.217 |
Suzanne Carista, Joy and lasting peace and the prosperity that will come from obedience, a pure heart and a submitted mind... to you and those that you are currently influencing. It is my prayer that the strongholds of pride and judgmentalness come down and the Lord's goodness, kindness and life changing repentence abound through you. Its not that I fear your prayers as you might wish or wish others to think. The less authority you have, the less your fleshly or demonically inspired "prayers" can cause trouble. You are not "the leader" you think are and so it is not a serious situation. There are levels of management. The manager of the watches and women's jewelry at Wal Mart. The manager of the night shift. The manager over the entire store, the manager of the region, the CEO and the Most High Manager.  My prayer family and the ministries praying for me would sheild off your intent and spiritual transferences if I informed them of your intrusions. Jesus would block you and those here who are not praying in love, disagreeing or not, and those who are not praying according to His will for me. What "valid" leader would pray against somebody instead of praying for them? I don't want "you" to pray for or about me. No means no / don't means don't/ stop means stop. If you cannot refrain from imposing your agenda on someone who feels you are off and violent, and exerting a false sense of authority in or "over" the Body of Christ, then you are a true "spiritual perpetrator". Not all prayer is either commissioned or sanctioned by God. If the Muslims are praying against the Christian ministries setting up outreaches in Sri Lanka is that appropriate? If you are trying to pray things or actions concerning people then you are doing nothing less than your own personal brand of witchcraft. How can you purport to contradict the authenticity of the leadership in and over my life and my accomplishments and those prophecies that God has given to others who are recognized as Prophets? Stay back stay far from me, spiritually and in any other way unless... you are a humble source of God's love and a "worthy" reflector, who has genuinely prayed and submitted yourself and have repented for your own strongholds and darkness. All of us have the task to identify and forsake areas of darkness. You might want to peruse the Bible. Last question that I hope there is an affirmative answer for. Have "you" ever faithfully prayed or discerned anything accurate about the person in this prayer request??? I want to thank Jo Jo also because without her intuition and "ministry" I would not have delved into the Trust and Obey posts. I like them and I wonder why she doesn't. I did not post this prayer request and I have my own serious and negative discernment about this person "Nancy". You may have guessed it, the Lord told me CLEARLY that "Nancy" is a person who is delusional, intrepid, violent and a true "self appointed" and "false mini authority". Do you have the compelling to pray about her and her words or intrusions Suzanne or "the rest of you"? (Quoting Carista the "Pope's third in succession".) A good question for you would be, Can you sin in a prayer,or with a prayer? Is it a type of wickedness and controllingness that you pursue by demanding your "right" to "exercise dominion" (false dominion) by praying? I am not a Prophet,(one more time) I have been on staff with a prophetic ministry and have been in the Biblical position of a Servant to a Prophet and my life has voluminously increased and strengthened due to this extraordinary responsibility and privilege. For those who are having fits of judgment and tantrums you might find light... that dispels the darkness of rage and domination and judgmentalness in the teaching of Charles Stanley. Julia might like it, and to those who rely on their minds and suppositions or personalized passion and call it the "Spirit" you might find something in humbling yourselves to admit you may not be following the One, the Only, Holy Spirit. In Touch Daily Devotional by Dr. Charles Stanley Monday November 28, 2005 The Gift of Prophecy ROMANS 12:4-8 Spiritual gifts are a tremendous blessing from God. Using them will bring us much satisfaction, but to employ them properly, we must walk closely with the Spirit. Consider the gift of prophecy, which is the ability to speak forth the truth. If we are endowed in this way, we will exhibit certain character traits. 1. Expressing God's viewpoint. We will have a strong need to discuss issues from a spiritual perspective. Because of our firm sense of right and wrong, people may judge us as intolerant. But our words are trustworthy, as long as we allow the Spirit to guide them. 2. Revealing deception. As we exercise our gift, we will be motivated to speak out regarding anything that looks deceptive or untrue. Out of a desire for righteousness and God-honoring obedience, we will speak to the heart of the matter and let go of other details. To some, we will appear to be poor listeners. Others will scrutinize our lives. By remaining Christ-centered, we will be able to speak the truth and avoid falling into deception ourselves. 3. Utilizing discernment. We will develop the ability to detect the character and motives of individuals and groups. The Spirit of God prompts us to address heart issues, but our frankness can be viewed as harshness. By allowing love to under gird all we say and by keeping a close watch on our own lives, we will avoid hypocrisy in our words and actions. Each of us has at least one heavenly gift. If yours is prophecy, use it as the Spirit directs for the Body's spiritual growth. ********************************************************** Carista, Do you ever admit that you may be wrong? You seem to be up on a high horse heralding in exaltation your own agenda and not the Lord's. You're alot like carman. You don't do anything wrong. I haven't read anyone else's posts from today Monday. I don't have much of an interest in reading New Life's. While proofing this post the Lord gave me "an insight" that someone is hating me, so thank you very much, and I hope you don't reap what you sow. Who ever you are you probably have seen that scripture in John about hating your brother.  1 John 3:15-A "Who ever hates his brother is a murderer..." Apologies Julia but the Lord gave me this scripture and I haven't read this in a few years. I did inquire several times and He compelled me to post it, honest. "The rest of you" (caristaism) can ask the Lord if compelled how to apply it or to whom or to yourself. John 13:10 "Jesus said to him, "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you." (Message edited by ems on November 29, 2005) | ||
| hope_faith_and_love (hope_faith_and_love) New member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 69.228.37.9 |
ems, I don't really understand why you are going after Carista for the above post. I was the one who asked you if you were the minister trustnobey was speaking about. You wrote and accused Carman elsewhere of misjudging women about being a threat when the title of this thread referred to a woman as "dangerous" by someone you now say you respect.... And you even admitted this, "You may have guessed it, the Lord told me CLEARLY that "Nancy" is a person who is delusional, intrepid, violent and a true "self appointed" and "false mini authority"." So apparently, Carman, Penny, and Mario were not making up these stories as you claimed elsewhere. You question us about praying for this woman, but then go off on a tangent warning Suzanne Carista not to pray for you. I have had one person accuse me of not praying for these women and then turn around and tell me that if I pray for someone in distress that I am the one responsible for their distress in the first place. You simply want to make Carman guilty for anything you can find, while you never will have to be accountable for anything. This is what you have proven time and time again. As for you and mercy4 attacking my mental well-being, you both do this far too readily. This to me shows that everything you are determined to force feed others about Carman being abusive to women is what you both have demonstrated toward me and others here when neither of you could control us. As for Carman, keeping posting up things that you will be offended by... get a clue... he is doing it on purpose.... I told you when a man of God starts doing things to make God's people angry, it is a "sign" that God is going to deal with His people. | ||
| ashamed (ashamed) Intermediate Member Username: ashamed Post Number: 344 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 66.79.85.117 |
Amen hf&l , i agree with your post above | ||
| mercy4 (mercy4) New member Username: mercy4 Post Number: 24 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 209.222.244.132 |
EMS, thanks for the write-up from Rev. Charles Stanley and the Scriptures. It's good for all of us to take heed on praying God's will instead of our will, and on being careful about how we treat true prophets. | ||
| mortar_n_pestle (mortar_n_pestle) New member Username: mortar_n_pestle Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 72.130.230.4 |
i will pray about nancy and i will ask my friends to pray hard about her. the Lord told me when i prayed yesterday that she is 'delusional' and manipulating and that she is person who betrays. he said several words to me and i wrote them down. puffed up, deceptive with law enforcement, very angry, charming, designing, and false counsel. she will be taken aback by the Lord also. i liked the charles stanley piece too. thank you ems. i looked at your web links and those were really neat. my favorite cousin is a flight tech on an ems system in illinois. there are true prophets and i thank the Lord for them. there are false ones and they are not that hard to spot if you know what to look for. about those questions. if carman is doing it on purpose then he is what new life said other posters are. and that would be mean and manipulating of him. then he is what those who were around him said. what would his purpose be? is he sorta stalking the factnet posters? is that what you are saying? and how would you know what he is doing or not doing? those are all old questions anyways in the last few weeks. and if someone says they are going to 'pray for you like a threat' out of their ego, then you have every right to ask them or tell them not to. arguing for arguments sake is contention. the bible discourages your kind of actions hopefl. i have been nodding my head everytime someone said to you that you provide no proof of who you are and why you are so dogged about carman. if you were any of the things you have said like an apostle or a prophet you would have a servants heart and be overflowing with love. you wouldn't say those flaki things about losing God and all of that. ashamed why do you agree with the flaki people? it could be that very few have an inspiration to pray about nancy because they are something like her and why subconsciously pray against yourself? mnp (Message edited by mortar_N_pestle on December 01, 2005) | ||
| witness4god (witness4god) Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 74 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 67.10.174.23 |
Dear uncharmed,Aka Morter and pestle, I am surprised at you. i will pray for you becuase you said you were worried about my spirituality elsewhere but I as well am concerned about you. It is possible to be sincere in christ and yet mislead. And sometimes that could be meant for your own destruction. No strife is meant toward you. " Things are not what they seem". I Wish that God would show you that. Blessings in Jesus W | ||
| newlife (newlife) Intermediate Member Username: newlife Post Number: 128 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 209.247.222.82 |
Mortar and Pestle, You would'nt happen to know anyone who is a TSA baggage screener in Cincinatti, Ohio would you? Or by chance, your cousin who is a flight tech on a EMS system, would they happen to live in Bartlett, Illinois? Bartlett is only about 45 minutes from Chicago. Interesting name Mortar and Pestle.  And EMS too, very interesting web links. Newlife (Message edited by newlife on December 01, 2005) | ||
| mortar_n_pestle (mortar_n_pestle) New member Username: mortar_n_pestle Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 72.130.230.4 |
new life, you show me yours and i will show you mine. nothing dirty. you are such a puzzle solver you can conclude on what i mean. witness4God, like the dread pirate roberts aka the stable boy says, 'get used to disappointment'. if you have something to say to uncharmed it can't happen through me. if she is reading this then she is going to get blessed and blessed again for all of the mean persecution she has experienced. i am exactly what i seem. saved, sincere and loving my God and being so thankful that he loves me. yes, thank you so much, i love the name mortar N pestle. the lord gave me the inspiration. you could thank him too, he loves to be praised and he is worthy of it all the time. he delights in the gentle who are not froward and the peacemakers. | ||
| julia Junior Member Username: julia Post Number: 34 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.165.4.244 |
Dear Ems, Thanks for your thoughts and input. I especially liked the Dr. Stanley stuff you posted. One thing, however puzzles me that is this..... why on earth would you be apologising to me about giving me correction??? Correction is from the Lord and I Love it because it means he Loves me. "He chastises the ones He loves" an apology in front of the correction makes it null and void because God does not apologise for his correction because it is good, therefore Ems I have concluded your attempt at correction is not good. Borne from wrong motives. Yes so thanks anyways and hope you have a good Easter tomorrow with Love in Christ..... Julia | ||
| julia Junior Member Username: julia Post Number: 35 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.165.4.244 |
Dear Ems, "If you cannot refrain from imposing your agenda on someone who feels you are off and violent, and exerting a false sense of authority in or "over" the Body of Christ, then you are a true "spiritual perpetrator"." I tried editing my post but it seems there are ghosts! This my dear sounds to me like a very clever spiritual observation used to get a grip on the situation in other words control even whilst you are pointing out the same in someone else, that is usually how it happens when you point at someone three fingers point back at you (that is providing you have all five fingers). If I could use this machine properly I would choose to write your above words in yellow because I have a need to be able to categorise things. Is this controlling? I am a mere human and I have a need to feel like I got a grip and I'm sure you know full well what I mean! You also have a tone of passive aggression, passive agression has an angry tone and is not loving. It can be a sneaky way to disguise your anger (which if being used to control is wrong)and a good way to avoid exposure to the light of God. Will you come with me to the Cross then and lay it down so we can stop it motivating from the wrong spirit which we both know is destructive. | ||
| julia Junior Member Username: julia Post Number: 36 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 146.196.4.62 |
Ems, I would of replied much earlier if i knew you were addressing me. "1 John 3:15-A "Who ever hates his brother is a murderer..." " The scripture you used, my dear is very accusing. God does not accuse, even His correction is done in Love and when done in rebuke does not condemn. Just shows where you are at! | ||
| lightofjesus New member Username: lightofjesus Post Number: 22 Registered: 5-2006 Posted From: 69.176.213.216 |
DO NOT SEND ANY MORE MONEY TO CARMAN MINISTRIES FOLKS UNTIL "HE REPENTS" & "CONFESS" LET HIM LIVE OFF OF PATRICIA MANTEROLA'S MONEY INSTEAD - His mistress | ||
| newlife Intermediate Member Username: newlife Post Number: 129 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 67.72.98.94 |
Oh no way. I'll be sending in extra money next month. I hope it's used to search you down and take you to court. | ||
| holybeauty New member Username: holybeauty Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2006 Posted From: 69.176.213.223 |
 And Patricia Manterola be convicted "guilty" of witchcraft plot | ||
| holybeauty New member Username: holybeauty Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2006 Posted From: 69.176.213.223 |
*WARNING* The more you tried to defend your lies and your work of witchcraft Patricia Manterola, the worse it's going to get for you. Take the warning darling. | ||
| frizz_bee Junior Member Username: frizz_bee Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.130.228.176 |
24 He saw one of them being mistreated by an Egyptian, so he went to his defense and avenged him by killing the Egyptian. 25 Moses thought that his own people would realize that God was using him to rescue them, but they did not. 26 The next day Moses came upon two Israelites who were fighting. He tried to reconcile them by saying, 'Men, you are brothers; why do you want to hurt each other?' 27 "But the man who was mistreating the other pushed Moses aside and said, 'Who made you ruler and judge over us? 28 Do you want to kill me as you killed the Egyptian yesterday?' 29 When Moses heard this, he fled to Midian, where he settled as a foreigner and had two sons. [Acts 7] (Message edited by Frizz_Bee on June 02, 2006) | ||
| frizz_bee Junior Member Username: frizz_bee Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.130.228.176 |
Do not yield your members to sin as instruments of wickedness, but yield yourselves to God, as men who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments of righteousness. [Romans 6:13] But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure. It is also peace loving, gentle at all times, and willing to yield to others. It is full of mercy and good deeds. It shows no partiality and is always sincere. [James 3:17] | ||
| mercy_me Member Username: mercy_me Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 64.123.161.50 |
Thank you frizz bee. The word of God stands alone no adding to or taking away. So much peace in what you said. May God Bless You! | ||
| frizz_bee Junior Member Username: frizz_bee Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.130.225.212 |
Hi Mercy Me, I didn't see this post before I wrote the other one. You and I could be misunderstanding the tone of one another. For me it would be better to avoid the personal interaction that usually ends up one person taking sides or four against one etc and Christians being ungodly with one another. I noticed that things usually fall into either extreme narsissism or sarcasm and Carman bashers or Carman worshiping. You have got your dreamers and your big time deniers all mixed in with self righteous and prejudice and lies. You have to take an Advil just to read 10 posts. Then person 2 hates person 5 and person 9 submits to person 11 and then persons 21 and 25 fight with 28 and it just goes round and round. One person is a mini pastor one person is god's own avenger or Carman's long lost wife and then there are the ploys for attention and they are going to get it one way or another. Last and not the least are the babies thrown out with bath water all over the place. Stick to the Word that is where the real bottom line is. There is definitely peace in the Prince of Peace and His Eternal words given to all of us. And at an enormous price and with extraordinary Love. I will ask the Lord for a scripture just for you. Peace and Hope to you. I have asked the Lord for one thing; one thing only do I want: to live in the Lord's house all my life, to marvel there at His goodness, and to ask for His guidance. [Psalm 27:4] I will tell of your goodness; all day long I will speak of your salvation, though it is more than I can understand. [Psalm 71:15] May God Bless You too. | ||
| mercy_me Member Username: mercy_me Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 64.123.161.50 |
I agree Frizz Bee totally; I am sorry I didn't mean to be hateful. You have so much peace in your posts it just seemed to take away what you were saying. And I should just mind my own business. Forgive me? YOU SAID: "For me it would be better to avoid the personal interaction that usually ends up one person taking sides or four against one etc and Christians being ungodly with one another." AMEN AMEN AMEN!! That is exactly what I told myself before coming back in here. Because you do get misunderstood and then it becomes a free for all and you just end up apologizing and wishing you hadn't said anything. When people can't see your heart it is so easy to be misunderstood. I just need to stick with what God lays on my heart and not converse. But if God lays a scripture on your heart for me I would love to hear it. Have a Grrrrrreat and most blessed day! Mercy Me | ||
| getagrip Intermediate Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.255.7.30 |
I am praying about a weird parson who is dangerous towards Charmin... | ||
| mercy_me Member Username: mercy_me Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 64.123.161.50 |
So how is that going fer ya?  (sorry couldn't help mine-self hee hee!!) | ||
| holybeauty Junior Member Username: holybeauty Post Number: 42 Registered: 5-2006 Posted From: 12.33.78.16 |
Not only has Carman recently had to endure physical issues *** But Carman also had people dropped their booking on him *** THINGS BEEN GOING PRETTY ROUGH FOR CARMAN FOR 6 YEARS PHYSICALLY, FINANCIALLY, RELATIONSHIP BREAKING UP(EVEN SOME DYING ON HIM), AND MINISTRY SUFFERING -ever since his been involvement with witchcraft Patricia Manterola! | ||
| julia Member Username: julia Post Number: 64 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.168.140.86 |
So are you laughing yet? treacherous and gossiping person that you sound like, I wouldn't put it past you. (Message edited by julia on June 07, 2006) | ||
| holybeauty Junior Member Username: holybeauty Post Number: 47 Registered: 5-2006 Posted From: 12.33.78.16 |
Oh I'm laughing so hard right now, i'm loving every minute of it!!! FULL OF JOY!!! Unlike you, lately you are so bitter, so angry, You put up your self righteous act, even to try sound like a christian hoping to make something out of it. Only to get back fired on yourself! Enjoy dear it's all very real! | ||
| julia Member Username: julia Post Number: 67 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 58.168.213.224 |
So it is easy to see what side of the camp you are on!!! | ||
| valkyrie333 Junior Member Username: valkyrie333 Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 65.9.56.157 |
HolyBeauty: Would your name be Leah by any chance? | ||
| out_ofthe_heart New member Username: out_ofthe_heart Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 24.8.121.95 |
V, I really like this post because it is something that I have been studying. I have been very closed to the prophetic and to "charismatic" things, but now I am learning that there are some very valid things to understand. And when I read what you said that I am copying here it applies to Carman and to some of the people here. I can't just believe one person who has posted. I think that some of the people who are prophetic or critical are correct. Do I think that they are always in the right spirit, no. Do you think that Carman could have said words and it caused a fire storm when he acted like a victim and that hindered someone's life? If the man who said someone lied to Carman also and then he believed that lie that could have hindered someone who is innocent and even important. I am not saying any one person in particular or I am not defending any of the posts where Carman is being accused of serious immorality. I am being sensitive to the Spirit and I believe that He is making me aware that this is something Carman is a part of. What you said applies to Wingsaglow and others who are so self righteous and charming. Motives are everything the saying goes and they can be very hard to spot sometimes. Jesus judges us by our hearts. Who of all of the Christians who have posted on these topics really pray like the verse that says, Search me and try me and show me if there be any wicked way within me? Who has hindered who and who would ever admit and renounce it is a very important question. If HB is lying she needs to fully renounce it and post a retraction. If she does not have concrete proof then she is being wicked. If Carman is too arrogant and rigid to think that he has hindered innocent parties then he is being wicked also. This is what you said that I am talking about. "He told the story of how someone lied about him during a revival he was having at a church. And how the majority of Christians believed the lies, without verifying.....or knowing first-hand what really happened for themselves. This incident was caused by a hindering spirit(which the Holy Spirit had shown him). It hindered the move of the Holy Spirit and the revival. I'm not making accusations against anyone.....just trying to remind people how important it is to know the facts before we believe every story we hear. We need to discern the spirit behind the person. Not everyone has pure motives." (Message edited by out_ofthe_heart on June 14, 2006) | ||
| frizz_bee Member Username: frizz_bee Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.130.230.12 |
The Greatest Success [He] made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Philippians 2:7–8 What do we consider success? If we were to classify a successful person, what would be the earmarks? Power? Wealth? Popularity? Respect? If that is our criteria for success, then apparently Jesus was a horrible failure. Was He popular? Not for long. The fickle multitudes sang His praises for awhile, but they turned on Him a short time later. So in a sense, He was not popular. In fact, after one of His sermons, all of His followers deserted Him except for the twelve disciples. Was He politically powerful? No. He was a political failure. All levels of government first rejected Him and then conspired to kill Him. Did Jesus have lots of friends? Not really. He had a lot of fair-weather friends. He had a lot of people who claimed to be His friends, but when it came to the end, He had only a handful. Did He have money and possessions? Not really. He said, “The Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head” (Matthew 8:20; Luke 9:58). He had one garment that we know of, for which the soldiers gambled at the foot of the cross. Was Jesus respected by His peers? It you consider the religious leaders His peers, then the answer would be no. They rejected His work. But despite His failure by these standards, Jesus Christ was the greatest success that anyone ever could have been. Why? Because He came with a purpose: to die for the sins of the world. And He accomplished that task. For more relevant and biblical teaching from Pastor Greg Laurie, go to www.harvest.org. (Message edited by Frizz_Bee on July 13, 2006) | ||
| no_no New member Username: no_no Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 72.130.100.144 |
January tour cancelled due to illness? Whose? What? Hope that all will recover fully and hear God during any suffering. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 560 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
out_ofthe_heart you again prove in your post what a lie is all about. When you claim that you are not making accusations against anyone????? Then why did you put my name in your post to spew your sickness once again then HMMM? Or will you say I did not.... So I'll just paste what you just said so you can read your lies for yourself... Paste:What you said applies to Wingsaglow and others who are so self righteous and charming. You sick puppy if anyone is so self righteous above all others it's you. If you even blew your nose you'd miss the tissue. I'll take the charming part though thanks. You can keep the rest of your holy thoughts though to yourself. As for the continued gossip on Patricia Manterola, please give it a break you bowl of nuts. He's with a gorgious woman that would make you all pray to God that you could even look like her, and she is so gorgious and young, and he's finally in love with some one who compliments him. She has a lot to offer and is a prize, and as for me I can't wait until he marrys her so that you all can have your gossiping mouths hit the floor. You are all so wrong and I'm not telling a soul not even those who email me in private, but he loves her, and there was proof, and I saw it you didn't. The best day for me will be when you all get to see this gorgious woman by his side. Then the lies will be known just how far off you all are, and this lady really does belong in lights. She already has her own gifts and talents that will really bless him. HA!HA! mistress as you call yourself again so wrong in left field. Pray for his ministry, but when it comes to his love life. At least pray that God will bless his new love who really does have the looks to match the gifts, and by his side they make a wonderful match made in Heaven. See instead of attacking with your lies, and gossip at least I encourage his ministry with the truth. I just can't wait until you can see how gorgious this woman is. She's breathtaking and every person wants to add her as a friend, and all of the men can only wish just for a date, but she is already taken. May God bless her with Carman even though at first I thought that she was too young, but after I really looked at all of the gifts that she has to add as a blessings by his side. Then age doesn't matter what does is that they compliment each other. have fun ya all in the lost land of lies | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 451 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
I know I am going to get into a lot of trouble for this.... but here goes..... wings, you've written a lot about your "real" friends, but you have just proven you are not a "real" friend to Carman. His real friends do not go and blab about his personal life on forums! It smacks of you hearing something and wanted to use it to build yourself up. You couldn't just keep this to yourself. Those who are Carman's real friends protect his privacy. This is what "real" friends do for each other. You will never be viewed as a trustworthy friend. Those "real" friends of yours may only be there because they think you have access into Carman's life. But are they real friends. You've just stirred the wolf pack and now they will not give him a moments rest. That's why its so quiet around here, they are all trying to find out the who, what, when and where of Carman's life. You must be so proud. | ||
| kookie77777 Member Username: kookie77777 Post Number: 83 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 68.0.79.87 |
hfl i agree, it's ok wings i still love ya girl.. saying too much stirs the hornet nest. ok | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 633 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Well, funny HFL, I was about to post and you beat me to it. Regardless of what I might like or dislike about any ministry or person (as Franklin reminds me always that I am to look only to God), I'm happy for anyone in this life that finds love whether they be friend or foe. So I know what to say. Anyone who finds love finds a wonderful thing. Whether this is true or not true, this holds true. I pray that everyone here finds that for their life but more than anything, I pray that they grow to know God's love. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 567 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
My response is simply this. I do not know Carman in person nor have I ever known him, but as Grace has just said if anyone has found true love then it is a blessing, and not to be put down. So by saying that I am a real friend. I am to those I really know in person, but again as you called it the wolf pack. Then good without giving them any info to digest but by telling them that he has found a real gifted woman to be by his side. That is not crossing a line or putting him down. I still will never tell anyone here who this talented woman is that's not my business its his. I will say that he deserves this wonderful lady so that the other wolves here can go off some where else. That's not putting him down either it's sharing happiness. I still love you too Kookie, and I hope that the hornets can now move on to another bee hive. As for building myself up no I don't do that at all nor have I ever done that. As for trustworthy yeah that I am, because I unlike so many others here will never say anything about Carman that is a put down to a piece of trashy, smack, gossip. What I said is that I am thrilled that he has found a lady who compliments him. There is nothing wrong with a man in the ministry to have a lady in his life who compliments him. Why don't you email me hfl???? As for having access into Carman's life no I don't and never have, but you do, and you even have my private email. So if you have a problem with me then at least hfl have the guts to do so in private. I never said anything wrong at all what's wrong with a man being in love with a lady? Isn't it a normal thing that happens even to a man in ministry? I also will not enlighten anyone here about anything. The real woman who are not wanna be wifes should be also thrilled for him. It's only those who are wanna be wifes who will get upset and big deal ruffle their feathers with the truth already. Hopefully it will help them get over him and move on with their own lives and find a husband for themselves instead of living in la, la land. Then only the real woman who support his ministry will still be around, and not just wanna be trouble maker fruit cakes filled with lies. As for a moments rest that's never changed either go figure. As for being proud no I'm the complete opposite. I still forgive people for crushing me too with lies shall we go there????? Email me anytime I've never hidden, because I am not afraid. I do agree Kookie there is a hornets nest, but it also I pray can help the fruitcakes get a real life and be happy for him. GEESH! I'm thrilled for him and if the real woman that are not the wanna be wifes stand up and are happy for him then that's great. As for Grace you are a real woman who just showed what real inner beauty is, because you are happy for him, and that shows that you are not a wanna be wife. You are secure and of sound mind that supports his ministry. Kookie you are a cool person here, and I love your post you're a blast. HFL... email me and I do know you so when you email me you can cut out the fake name that you use here. We are already known to each other. I have protected and still will, because unlike others here who sink to gossiping about lies. I just told the truth and still get my teeth kicked in hmmm that's cool. Good thing that I have strong teeth. At least I'm not slambing the ministry like so many others have. Even though nothing's ever perfect at least I have only been happy for the outcome. Also just to again state it here for everyone to read it so they don't add any more lies in gossip... I DO NOT KNOW CARMAN ONE ON ONE NOR HAVE I EVER BEEN HIS BUDDY, OR HIS PERSONAL FRIEND EITHER. I DO NOT NOR EVER HAVE LISTENED TO THE OTHER NUTS THAT GOSSIP ON HIS LIFE IN THESE FORUMS!! So that should clear that up too. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 568 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Added from the above message: Lets clear something else up too while I'm at it hfl....All that I had ever wanted which was a very long time ago.... Was to have sung with him on one of his songs. When some kids gave me a cd of this guy at one of my own major concerts. I even sent the emmy awards, and all of my achievments to back up what I am. So that I could do a song with him that's it nothing more nothing less. What anyone else thinks is a load of sheep dip lies. My little girl was also a number 1 fan and if ever Carman was near her she'd try to hang onto his hand just to be near him, because she loves him and might I add still does. So hfl when you state: That I have proven that I'm not a "real" friend to Carman.... Good for you hfl..... How can I be a dear "real" friend like you are when I don't even know him in person mono on mono hmmmm? go figure. As for this next piece hfl: His real friends do not go and blab about his personal life on forums! It smacks of you hearing something and wanted to use it to build yourself up. No I'll just leave that up to those who do really know him, and then tell all of their closest friends his personal info to build themselves up... Do you want to go there? Email me one on one if you have a problem hfl you've got my email. As for this next piece hfl: You couldn't just keep this to yourself. No why should I keep a wonderful answer to his prayers when God has blessed him? It is to be happy for him and to share in the new found love, and it's a whole new year where he's going to be such a bigger blessing with a beautiful woman by his side. That should be shared in happiness, and not with anger and I'm not enlightening anyone with names or personal info as to who it is either.... That's not my place, but the news of love and happiness in his life that is good news and not bad. Again Kookie I still love you too. You are a riot and a lot of fun, as for Grace you too are a doll and a wonderful sweet spirit. For the rest if I get put down for it big deal. I'm still thrilled for him and I hope that everything turns out awesome in his life regardless of the hornets. They don't scare me nor ever will. I'm not a wimp who just sits back and takes it in the teeth for bringing good news and not smack.... If you think its smack then bring it one on one mono on mono to me via email. Nobody smacks me down either for sharing good news, and not lies filled with gossip. Like the above poster who claimed to be his mistress what another fruitcake. That poster alone needs a man in marriage, and not proud to be a mistress in sin. Which was the poster that I had responded too in the first place. To share good news still with holding any names and info is not crossing a line so hfl email me if you still got a problem with me. I'm not running either never do... I face anyone with a conflict anytime. It's my job on a daily basis so this is nothing to be worked up over, but if anything it should have been news to be happy with if people are not wanna be wifes........ | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 452 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
If I emailed you "privately" then would you come here and talk about how I wasn't your "real" friend? I do not think Carman's real friends would even talk about him to their friends. The fact you told people here, who you consider "fruitcakes", I'm certain isn't the way anyone would want to share something they had prayed about for so long and God had answered it. I know I wouldn't. In fact, I think most people would rather share this kind of news in their own time and with their real friends... maybe in "private emails". The fact you didn't tell all was the scent of blood to drive these wolves to a mad frenzy with the hunt to find out this info. There is a lot of things I could say but I will not, nor will I privately email you. The only reason you want me to do this is so you could save face and the people you want to impress now sees that you aren't really someone Carman Ministries should trust to have as a friend. People latch on to famous people, this is common. But to have true friends is a rarity. You cannot understand this and this is what you have demonstrated. It's one thing to be blustery in defending them when others are harming them, but it's another thing to give out private information and cause them more harm after they've already been hurt so much and knowing full well how these people work. You yourself have experienced this, so it would stand more to reason that you would be even more careful in whatever private information about Carman you posted here. What you did didn't help Carman, but you don't seem to care, you were only trying to use him to put a feather in your cap. I doubt you really feel joy for Carman as much as you felt pleasure in waiving this information in the faces of people here that you called fruitcakes. Your post wasn't to share good news, but was an act of petty revenge. The reason I didn't "privately" email you is because I hoped, no doubt in vain, to make Christians think about what it means to be a friend. But, something tells me few here will ever understand this..... many, will no doubt work overtime to misuse the Bible to completely obliterate any hope we have to understand friendship in order to prove me wrong. And this is perhaps where Christians do the most damage to Jesus Christ.... | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 634 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Wingsy, Thanks but I'm really not all that. I struggle when satan spews his lies too. But at least I do stop and say to myself, "that can't be", etc. And I have never been one to go around and say thus saith the Lord (and I'm not putting anyone down that says that - there are times I will say ok if that's the Lord then I'll try to have faith in it or something like that) because to me my understanding is limited. I just sometimes hear "voices" (on a rare occasion)- I'll sometimes put it out there because I heard a minister say to do so because he also knew that God's words stand and satan's fall down. Although I struggle with temptations and other like anyone else, I guess my real desire is to understand why all of this happens. And how to discern the voices better as well as how to die to self so you can clearly hear the Lord inside and understand. But sometimes I think I try to hard to understand. I don't know. HFL, True friendship is indeed very difficult to find. This is something that I have been thinking about for a while. The writer of the book, "The Little Prince" portrays a fox (I know not your favorite character symbol) that teaches the Little Prince the importance of "taming" another in order to build a friendship. It made me think. I know there is all this negative stuff about "soul ties" etc. but it also makes you wonder if we have become people who are unwilling to form ties. I know you are looking at this from the point of damage to Jesus Christ. I'm thinking wouldn't it be wonderful if we could indeed tame the fox so the fox doesn't plunder and steal. Maybe the Holy Spirit is the only one that can do that. Sorry to get off topic. This subject makes me think of this. (Message edited by Grace2u on January 20, 2007) | ||
| mercy_me Intermediate Member Username: mercy_me Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 206.228.128.9 |
Wingsy; I want to say something to you, I probably should just mind my own business. But I feel in my heart I need to say this and I need to apologize to you. I have to agree with HFL that you shouldn't have posted anything in here about Carman's personal life. If he wants to say anything he needs to say it and that needs to be up to him. Epecially in here, Like HFL said there are wolves in here who are just waiting for any kind of bone to be thrown to them so that they can jump all over it. But I know that you would never try to hurt him intentionally. I feel like this is partly my fault because God has lain on my heart to warn you about your posting in here and I didn't do it. Please forgive me. It seems like everytime God lays on my heart to warn people they don't take me seriously and things happen and then they look at me like??? But whether you would have received it or not I should have warned you. Please forgive me. These blogs can really start to mess with your mind and get your thinking all screwed up so quickly. That's why you have to put on the whole armour of God before you come in here prepare for battle every time or you will get messed up. Take it from someone who knows... Grace2u God Love You!! You are such a peace maker and a blessing... God Bless (Message edited by mercy_me on January 20, 2007) | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 569 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
My answer hfl to this: I do not think Carman's real friends would even talk about him to their friends. You really don't know them at all then or you wouldn't be saying that. As for the scent of blood get real.... Are you trying to say that every wolve here is a mental case? Maybe some, but not all of them. Have you ever thought that they have been used or hurt too? I on the other hand can at least forgive those that have used me and hurt me, but I'm not a wolve either. I will not inform people of names to what and who they are to what they did either. that is gossip, and not my style. I did say that we should all be thrilled for him and that he's found a wonderful Christian lady who is very talented. there is nothing wrong in sharing happiness for another person. To still upholding a ministry that has saved many for Christ. When you said: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I emailed you "privately" then would you come here and talk about how I wasn't your "real" friend? No you've already proven that by attacking not only me here, but everyone else too. Your only a tough talker here, but in person you don't have the backbone to back it up your talk. As for this statement: People latch on to famous people. Yeah they sure do so how does it feel to still be on his back end coat tail hfl? As for me I don't hang off of anyone's back end I don't like the ride. Your next statement: What you did didn't help Carman, but you don't seem to care, you were only trying to use him to put a feather in your cap. I don't use him to put feathers in my cap. I'll just leave that up to you backstabber. Why don't you let everyone here really know who you are then hmmm? Why have you been hiding is it because you're really afraid of the fruitcakes? You see that's where we are not alike at all. I on the other hand am not afraid at all, and if anyone ever comes face to face with me I can back up my talk with the action. I've been in the lime light and had to fight so many fruitcakes, but you hide and then attack, but it's only verbal. For one reason you're not young anymore so you live in fear of these people, and I don't. Maybe retirement does sound good then eh? Maybe many won't have to feel the real sting from you behind their backs, and on here where you have openly attacked them and even with the so called phoney real friends that you tell all too. Shall I go there??? Again | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 453 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
grace, I like foxes and wolves. I do not think when these are used in the Bible it was intended that any of us should dislike them, but to learn from them because under the curse of sin what is natural to them makes them an enemy to the owner and His domesticated animals and cultivated plants. But one day the Bible teaches that this curse of sin that has effected all creation will cease. But for now God wants those who have chosen Him to be their God to overcome whatever may be "natural" to us. With the Holy Spirit and our own willingness God can change us from being His enemies and harming what belongs to Him to becoming His friend and domesticated for living in His presence. Unlike what many on factnet teach, hating others does not prove friendship with God. I have friends who for now are living Biblically incorrect lives but because they aren't here causing the Owner trouble God has me to be a lot different with them. God's focus with them is "domesticating" them and making them fit for heaven. They have trouble understanding how Christians can hurt one another. They tell me they believe in God and they believe in Jesus Christ, it's Christians they see going to church they cannot accept. I have to keep telling them that what they see is sinners who need Jesus Christ just as they do. I don't think they always get what I'm saying but I've learned that it isn't me but the Holy Spirit that will help them to understand. I must trust that the Holy Spirit will do what He set out to do when He first brought me into this. Because of what you wrote I struggled with saying God brought me here, but God reminds me that even though the Holy Spirit is the only one who can change us God still used men to preach the gospel and used them to teach believers how to live and how to prepare themselves. The change fluctuates in each believers life. And as believers we must understand this. But there must come a time when this fluctuation ceases. I care a lot about wings. In the past God has had me to say things to her that didn't make sense to her and she thought I was just being arrogant and rude. To be honest when God would have me to say things to her I would think I'm being arrogant and rude. But God had His reasons for what He had me to say. A lot of it had to do with me learning. I was talking to a friend of mine that I understand things now because of what God has taught me that if He had not taught me I would get so confused and frightened by what many on factnet teach. But, now I know what is true and so I don't get taken captive by what they teach. And this is what God is working in bringing about in believers' lives. This is what God speaks to me of why He has me to say what He does. Will anyone be able to believe this now? I don't know. All I can know for now is that this is in God's hands. So much has been said against gossiping already. Now, God is coming at us in a different way so we can understand why gossiping should not be part of a Christian believers life. Just because none of us know Carman does not excuse us from being less of a friend to him. One of my stumbling blocks in God using me has been my loyalty to people I only barely know. With my family and loved ones, God put me through many agonizing periods in order for me to learn that I must do what He wants. Eventually my family came to understand. I am trusting God that you will see the greater lesson God wants all believers to learn. As a child we can so want to be loved that we begin a childish behavior that once endeared us, but as we grow older that behavior is no longer endearing but noisome. It is time that we put away childish things. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 570 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
My answer hfl to this: I do not think Carman's real friends would even talk about him to their friends. You really don't know them at all then or you wouldn't be saying that. As for the scent of blood get real.... Are you trying to say that every wolve here is a mental case? Maybe some, but not all of them. Have you ever thought that they have been used or hurt too? I on the other hand can at least forgive those that have used me and hurt me, but I'm not a wolve either. I will not inform people of names to what and who they are to what they did either. that is gossip, and not my style. I did say that we should all be thrilled for him and that he's found a wonderful Christian lady who is very talented. there is nothing wrong in sharing happiness for another person. To still upholding a ministry that has saved many for Christ. When you said: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I emailed you "privately" then would you come here and talk about how I wasn't your "real" friend? No you've already proven that by attacking not only me here, but everyone else too. Your only a tough talker here, but in person you don't have the backbone to back it up your talk. As for this statement: People latch on to famous people. Yeah they sure do so how does it feel to still be on his back end coat tail hfl? As for me I don't hang off of anyone's back end I don't like the ride. Your next statement: What you did didn't help Carman, but you don't seem to care, you were only trying to use him to put a feather in your cap. I don't use him to put feathers in my cap. I'll just leave that up to you backstabber. Why don't you let everyone here really know who you are then hmmm? Why have you been hiding is it because you're really afraid of the fruitcakes? You see that's where we are not alike at all. I on the other hand am not afraid at all, and if anyone ever comes face to face with me I can back up my talk with the action. I've been in the lime light and had to fight so many fruitcakes, but you hide and then attack, but it's only verbal. For one reason you're not young anymore so you live in fear of these people, and I don't. Maybe retirement does sound good then eh? Maybe many won't have to feel the real sting from you behind their backs, and on here where you have openly attacked them and even with the so called phoney real friends that you tell all too. Shall I go there??? Again | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 571 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I don't have to sink myself to your level or anyone elses by putting your name to any other names here. That is gossip, and I will not sink myself to your level of hurting so many here. I have always stood up for the ministry and still will for Carman. If he only knew the real you then he'd have had a much better life. Yes hfl it is when those who claim to be doing what they think is right by their friend, and really have destroyed what they tried to protect so strongly, and they are now reaping what they have sown. Think about that the next time that you want to attack me. I'm not like the others who have been hurt and then they use gossip with names to try to get revenge. I don't get revenge I'll leave that up to you, because you've gotten so good at it. Hey hfl, I still forgive you too and I still love and will pray for God's best in your life. Even when you have done other wise in mine. Kookie I really do love you, and Grace thank you for being a sweetheart. For anyone else who was hurt by my post I am really sorry, but to me when a minister is happy then it should be shared so we all can be happy for them, and then leave them alone once and for all. There are always going to be the coat hangers that live their lives through him, but that's becuse they have no other life for themselves. What in fact has been done by them is telling so many lies to protect that they have believed them, and are reaping what they have done. There's always a price to pay for lies that have crushed so many. When the main coat wearer doesn't even have a real clue, but has only been told just a portion that should have opened the eyes to see past all of the untruths. When you said: Your post wasn't to share good news, but was an act of petty revenge. No if I wanted revenge my dear older woman then I'd have spoken names to even the past, and how I helped the ministry many times and a woman covered it all up as to who really saved a coat tail.... Do you want me to go there??? Even if you did hfl I still wouldn't, because it would put me back down on your level. Many have been hurt and that's why they strike out. I haven't even when I could have and you know it. I too was hurt and felt used many times, but I have forgiven and am happy for the outcome, and what many who claim to be his closest friends are afraid of... Is when he gets hitched to a wonderful new lady that he won't have time to have the coat riders still hanging on to his every word.... I'll leave you with this to really think about hfl: And this is perhaps where Christians do the most damage to Jesus Christ. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 636 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Well I just wish God would really get to the nitty gritty work (I may be sorry for saying this) of domesticating me. I don't think anyone needs another voice in the mix on the other topic going on. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 572 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
And to a ministry when they believe that they are protecting it. When in fact through so many lies they have crushed many true hearts. They will reap what they have sown, and so hfl I will not attack you with idle gossip... I have only said what should be shared in happiness for him big deal already get over it.... Let the wolves come and then shove them right back where they belong or have you lost the touch? What I did also does not damage Jesus Christ, but what has been done through so many lies that even the coat wearer hasn't a clue. Has damaged a ministry that will rise again once the eyes are really opened. Again that's not for me to tell either so why don't you do it? You've been so good at it in the past.... | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 454 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
wings, Your feathers are wilting. You mistake foolishness for courage. Many here mistake "foolishness" for faith. But when God is leading then He will protect and give wisdom so that we do not foolishly endanger ourselves. If you want to share something private about me to get revenge then do so! | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 573 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
No I'll just leave that up to you. You have been so good at it why stop now??? | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 638 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I wish I'd never wandered down this pathway. (Message edited by Grace2u on January 20, 2007) | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 574 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Sweet Grace I will not get into why hfl and I just went at each other, but know this. That even though we have fought I still love her regardless, and still will pray God's best in her life. She corrects people, and I pounced back at her. I still would love her anyways ok? She knows me and I know her so we've been around this same bush before. She has a temper and so do I, but where she is verbal I've always been verbal and physical if needs be. I haven't ever backed down from any fight. I've always been raised to always protect myself and I still do, but when I love anyone I really love them and they are safe. I shared happy news and was happy for a ministry that needs good news. Instead of getting always filled with mistress sheep dip, and if a wolf or hornet came by me I'd send them right up against a wall where I've just kicked them. Grace this is nothing at all to do with you. So please erase your mind of anything that hurts you ok? I'm not perfect, and I also tend to attack very easy when I'm crossed. That's just the gypsee and cherakee indian in me. My heritage runs to the blood, but I'm also the biggest brat who always gets my real friends bent over in laughing so hard their hurting. Then when I'm not riding behind my husband on a harley, I'm busy carrying a badge to protect people. I'm liscenced to carry everything to serve and protect, and that's also why my temper breaks off on wimps who are only verbal. Grace do you sing or play any instruments? Do you paint or cook? What ever it is that God has gifted you with use it all to the Glory of God. Grace I have sung in many concerts as the head liner, and have painted pictures of mountains to water, and trees. I love cooking, and traveling at an instants notice. I really am a cool person who loves people or I wouldn't be in the job that I'm now in. I also have got my whole gym set back so that I can start getting back into the weights. See Grace when you keep your mind busy with all of your gifts then God will open up the really cool doors ok? I pray that God really blesses you, and as for hfl, and myself don't worry she's still cared for. Just learn to take the fights we have with a grain of a musterd seed ok? We've butted heads before and to me it's no big deal. God bless you grace2u, and hfl for jumping back at you I'm sorry, but if you respond do it wisely.... | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 642 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Wings, it's not that I'm not gifted. It's just that I don't know what direction to go in and feel pushed toward something but God will not reveal what that is to me. This is VERY frustrating. As far as the other thing. Maybe the ministry should simply post whatever this news is and get it over with. I agree that things like this probably seem best coming from the ministry first anyway. At least they can make people feel a part of it even though some will slash back because they are hurt. I realize it is none of my business. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 576 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Yes grace what I meant by asking you if you have gifts is for you to be able to use them. Yes it can get frustrating, but it also teaches us to wait on God to lead us where to use them. As for coming from the ministry first yeah that's true too, but I wanted to set the mistres straight who was still spreading her lies. Maybe she'll get a real life and not like being known as a mistress living her life in sin, and not in marriage. When I replied to her post I tried to delete mine when I thought about it after wards, but the FN wouldn't let me delete it. So that's that and then when hfl came at me I jumped back at her. We've butted heads before so to me so what he's in love and it's good news not hate filled gossip with names, places, and smack. I pray God's very best in his ministry, and have done so for a long time. There are many who are hurt, and have been in shock at the way they were handled, but the ones that I know at least haven't put nasty gossip here. That sepperates the real people from the hate filled bitterness that others still have. God bless you grace2u Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 645 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Wow you summed up the last part very well. God bless you too! On the waiting . . . yep, I got it from Franklin at the end of this week, then I turned the radio on and got to here this "wait on the Lord" sermon, etc., etc. Also, honestly, I would have responded earlier on this topic after you originally posted but was out of town and the hotel I was at had an ip that posted my exact location - just didn't seem safe. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 577 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I also wanted to say thank you mercy_me, you are right and I did try to delete it after I posted my reply to the proud to be called a mistress, but the FN wouldn't let me delete it so that's it, but to go out of my way to hurt the ministry no I've never done that. In fact I've always protected it in many ways behind the scenes. Even though I will be the first to say again that I don't know Carman one on one or in person as a friend. I've known him for his ministry, and have stood up for the ministry many times. That's it nothing more nothing less accept to say I'm still happy for him. Again thanks mercy_me you are a cool poster here. Wingsy | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 578 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
grace2u, that was smart of you. Many here would love to know where we are all at. As for me I don't care if anyone knows whre I'm from. If the fruitcakes came to my town and started to be a pain in the behiney. I'd just handcuff them and take them in for their new id cards.... God bless you Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 647 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I would also like to say that on the other thing with the ministries and all that I think I have learned that I get my feelings hurt rather easily although I can be very strong. So I may be over-reacting on the ministry thing. At the meeting I was at we all did the Meyers Briggs and I ended up being an INFJ which I believe is the rarest personality type and one that also "feels" things pretty deeply. Still if it is satan trying to attack me - I would like to understand that too. Yep - glad you have the handcuffs too! That was a surprise for me to learn. I got a chuckle out of it. Never expected it! | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 579 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I feel that it is very easy to be hurt by a ministry if one opens their heart to feel it. The enemy always looks for a weakness to get in and jab us where it hurts most. I have always guarded mine, but when I did let my guard down even I was crushed with the hate filled stuck up fruitcakes who live for their lies and their little clicks. I wasn't in the job field that I am now, but my new job has made me a whole lot stronger. I made it through the hell week with only the men, and came out on top with my certificates. I love my work and satan is still always lurking it's his job to be a pain, but God has not given me a spirit of fear, but of a sound mind. So when satan comes to annoy me even through his demons....I'll just use my spiritual handcuffs and tell my partner that I had to beat him up first for resisting an arrest from God's truth. Then I'll mace him in the face just so he can get a real taste of the heart that's going to be even ten times hotter. If God ever needed a person to push the button for him to fry I'd be thrilled to be that lady, and ah where's the button now??? (+: Blessings grace2u wingsy | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 580 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
HA!HA!HA! I meant the heat, and not the heart, but I was just talking about the heart on myspace which came into my message hre LOL! I'd love to mace the enemy with just a taste of the heat, and then again push that button so he can share his new dwelling sooner with the other sick demons by his burning side. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 651 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
HFL, I'm not ignoring you. And I'm glad for your post. I'll let you and wings work out anything that may need worked out. | ||
| mercy_me Intermediate Member Username: mercy_me Post Number: 112 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 206.228.128.9 |
Your Welcome Wingsy!! You are pretty cool yourself. I like your upbeat and positive posts the best that's when you shine. And I am in awe of your gifts. Writer, Singer and handcuffer!! You go girl!!! God Bless M&M | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 581 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Thanks M&M, It's my job and I'm proud to wear my badge. I love protecting people from would be thugs, and watching over a disabled community where these people now feel safe. I also prefer the upbeat messages, and the picnic's too. I like laughing my halo off, and enjoying the replies from other fun loving people who still knows how to have fun. Hey Kookie where's the ice cream cake my friend? And please leave all of the gravity in it too. (+: I still haven't had a food fight yet, but I did throw my popcorn in my daughter's hair at the theatre LOL! She's good though and nailed me with the candy M&M's. We also know the manager who got the bucket and got into it with us too. Yeah food fights are fun, and then so is the cool movies. Have a wonderful evening Wingsy Oh and don't forget the mace, and asp actually it means a night stick, and my bullet proof vest too. I never go anywhere here without them, because of all the gang activity that's going on. We have two well knwon gangs that are at each other, and their entering each other's turf and marking the signs to the area. So we're all watching each other's backs. The one thing that I hate doing the most though is the rock and roll heavy metal concerts. There's too much drugs to fights and lots of booze. So there's a lot of arrest that goes on and the last concert young children were allowed, and we had two young little kids in the pit where the fights really get going and all that we could do was watch. We got the two babies out of there and their parents didn't even come looking for them. So there was a price to pay after that concert was over, and it wasn't a nice ending. Why can't these parent's just hire some baby sitters? Man was I ever fuming as a parnet myself when I saw these really young 5 year old babies with their hair standing straight up with words written on their shaved side heads 666 or I belong to the devil. We saw so much garbage that also shows us what this next generation is all about. their lost so by all means instead of seeing crap.... I'd rather do a Carman concert anyday where the youth are getting saved, and not beaten to a pulp in a mosh pit. All officers and security officers could do was just watch as the guys beat the blood right out of everyone while on the side lines the other people would throw the fighters right back inside the tight little circles to continue sheding more blood. Yeah I've seen a whole lot that makes me want to keep on uplifting any ministry to try and reach this lost generation. No matter what sin they did so what. Until people have seen what I have and been there trying to protect the young who are shaking their little shaved heads to the devil's music. Then continue with the gossip trying to help Satan attack a ministry. I have said this for those who love nothing more than to gossip about a ministry. They are satan's pawns and they need a real wake up call. God bless you Mercy_me See my temper gets the best of me when I am faced with the reality of real sin on a daily basis that would make the wimps run for cover. that's why when I get to have the chance for a picnic for me it's a good break from a reality of daily trash. Take care Wingsy | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 455 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
wings, I'm not butting heads with you. Nor do I hold myself in such high regard as you do yourself. By all means have your picnics. Laugh and enjoy. There is nothing that will be worked out, I will not budge. And you will have to reap what you have sown. There comes a point when this must happen. What you do then will be up to you. Will you gain any wisdom? Its doubtful. The only thing that will save you is that you will be caught up in the multitudes God will bring in. Then your penchant for hanging on to famous Christians might pay off. A word of caution to you when this happens. Do not attempt to rob glory from God by opening your mouth and spewing forth your usual brand of rhetoric to those God is drawing to Him and remind God of what you have done to hinder Him or in His anger He may judge you in that moment. | ||
| kookie77777 Member Username: kookie77777 Post Number: 84 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 68.0.79.87 |
no ice cream toooo cold here!! hot chcolate with whipped cream | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 582 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
HFL act your age ok? and not your shoe size. Will you gain any wisdom? Its doubtful. Boy what a nice lady you are.... How many have you crushed shall I go there with you? No I'll let God continue to deal with you as for reaping what you've sown that's already happening to you too. As for holding myself in such a high regard no I've never done that, but you sure have and everyone still tries to be close to you when all they get is scraps from your table. As for spewing.... No you have that down pat too. As for for hanging on to famous Christians now that's a huge laugh coming from you thanks I needed that. hfl you have hung on to that famous coat tail so long, because you never had your own life with achievements and when you recieved any info on those of us like myself who has.... You got jeolous and your lies were so deep in sheep dip that you even really started believing them. You call it protecting a ministry, but in fact it's been crippling it for years, and even the famous coat tail that you've been hanging off of for years doesn't even know what you have one behind the scenes with your lies. Just have fun hfl, and yeah I'll still laugh and enjoy my picnics where real people can enjoy some peae of mind, and not the religious thoughts of a wanna be star who really does hang off of anothers back end coat tail. So here's a word of caution to you hfl... when you are let go from your backstabbin duties...Don't try to rob God from humbling you and making things right with all of the people that you have crushed including myself. Let God draw people to him, and remind him of all the real sweet souls that you have crushed with lies and hate, to even how you have crushed them that are your closest friends behind their backs just to maintain your higher statis. God will judge you hfl, because while you were attacking these weak shep I was always encouraging them to not pay no mind to you. You are just a wanna be coat hanger who needs to be taken off. So that this ministry can really grow without all of your hate that has crushed many a wounded soul. You also wander why so many come here to attack poor you???? It's because in real life face to face you are afraid of those that you have hurt, and all that you have is hot air with nothing to back it up. Unlike you I don't have to have hot air I live in reality, and I'm not in my mind married to another man and leaving mine hungry for attention. Nor do I have to hide things from my husband, because we are really connected. So I also don't have to live a double life...... Many fear only the speach, and smack that you have spoken, but in person your an older lady who is weak. You only have felt power by always putting others down. That's also why almost all of them who really have a back bone has left you. They know your lies, and how you attack even the so called real friends on a regualr basis behind their backs. You don't have the guts to face any of them face to face. To retire would be a blessing to many, and then start loving that one who really loves you, and stop living your life on the coat tail of another. Hey Kookie glad to see you here, and yeah I love a picnic can you please send that whip cream my way(+: I feel like making a real mess with a food fight HA!HA! and ah don't forget the marshmellows too. They look good smeared in chocalate. Blessings to you my picnic, food partying buddy have a great day. Wingsy | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 583 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Oh and one more thang hfl..... when you said: I will not budge. You never have for anyone, because your a stubborn old woman who thinks that everyone should bow down to kiss your feet, and when they don't you attack them verbally. You have no real friends, and the reason why is because you back stab and have crushed them all. They have left and it has been all your fault. If that shoes fits a stubborn woman then you have to wear it. Many have been so sweet to you and you have hurt them so deep. You know what hfl??? They have come to me and I have been uplifting them and showing them what a real friend is all about. You can never have a real friend you back stabbed them all. I for one will never again waist my time protecting you ever again either. Hfl you deserve everything that you're getting, because of your hate filled lies that have hurt so many real sweet souls. The truth hurts doesn't it, but at least I can still forgive you and your stubborn attitude, but ya know what hfl?? God can budge you and move you right on out the way so that God can really work once again without the lies that destroyed so many. Think about what I just said. The truth hurts, and the pain that comes from it is a reality check. | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 456 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
Wings, I thought about what you just said.... and thanks for hinting that I have small feet. At first I was thinking you were insinuating that I have clowns feet, but then a friend of mine explained to me what you meant so I was no longer insulted. You can insult my intelligence, but not the size of my feet-- face it shoe sizes are no true indication of the size of my feet. How on earth did you know I'm sensitive about my feet and I'm sensitive about my age too, but God has been working on me on this. I don't know how old some of you think I am and I don't want to know. As long as I can remember I've been supersensitive about growing old. But I think my problems began long before other women's do when they hit say 39. Mine actually began when I was still a little girl and older women in my family would tell me "Just you wait 'til you get older and get wrinkles." That would make me burst into tears. Then someone asked me one morning if I had gotten in all my "beauty sleep" and this stopped me in my tracks and I thought this was the key. So I have tried to get at least 12 hours of it a day.... Imagine my dismay when I read in the Bible about the noble wife who gets up early. Once when I was about fourteen I caught the fitness bug and I set out to start jogging but with the first few steps and I felt my cheeks (on my face) being jarred and it occured to me that this is how those older women got those sagging jowl-like chins. I stopped in my tracks and never took another one of those skin loosening steps. To this day I don't run. I do aerobics but nothing that will jar anything loose.... None of you smarties out their burst my illusions. I'm convinced that's whats wrong with a lot of you, your brains are too big, just like your shoe sizes and it's made you bitter. As I said my age used to be a real problem for me, but then God reminded me that I am now one of the daughters of Sarah and that she was beautiful and had men desiring her when she was in her ninties. So I am believing by faith God will do the same for me. As for who has come to you on myspace after I have wounded them I can't help but wonder.... Was it zebra? She never liked me or the women from the paid chat site.... Was it george? Was it uncharmed? Maybe it was kit??? (Message edited by hope_faith_and_love on January 22, 2007) | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 31 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Dear Hope, Please do not turn off your mind because you hate me but I wanted to thank you for showing your HUMANITY here. I was wondering WHY you listened what all those people had to say about beauty? Beauty is fleeting and also in the eye of the beholder. DO you not understand the great worth and value you have because 1. you were fearfully and wonderfully created...and in Jesus we have the greatest worth and value. If you do not know this you can not see it in others. As far as marriage, God does not place a time frame on His will for us. When we are ready, the gift comes. I will not bash you. Keep it real, I would like to know more about the person behind the screen. She is someone that I can relate to. Witness | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 584 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I don't put other's names here or answer personal questions hfl. That is where gossip starts and I will not go there. If it is not good news on anyone I will not post it. I know many people here by name, but their personal info is my business between them and myself not anyone else here. I'm also not bitter at all, but I do have a blast all the time with my cool friends. We have a very good sense of humor, and we love to tell good bust your gut laughing jokes. As for getting more active yes it is always good to do something that moves the extra weight off. For me it's always been the treadmill to free weights, and the bike. Even to just walk on a treadmill while watching your favorite show will help shed the extra gravity. Have a good day everyone Wingsy | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 33 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
THE ROSE by Bette Midler Some say love it is a river that drowns the tender reed Some say love it is a razer that leaves your soul to blead Some say love it is a hunger an endless aching need I say love it is a flower and you it's only seed It's the heart afraid of breaking that never learns to dance It's the dream afraid of wakingthat never takes the chance It's the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give and the soul afraid of dyingthat never learns to live When the night has been too lonely and the road has been too long and you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong Just remember in the winterfar beneath the bitter snows lies the seed that with the sun's love in the spring becomes the rose ================================================= If you never take off your mask, if you never take a risk you will miss the chance of love. It can be a double edged sword but the sweet is always worth the bitter. Welcome to humanity 101. witness | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 585 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
To answer this question though for you I will. When you asked me: How on earth did you know I'm sensitive about my feet and I'm sensitive about my age too? God shows other people things too hfl, and when I post there are many things that I don't add so that people will not freak out. I am not a super human, but when God shows me things I'll only post those certain things to let them know that I do know what I'm talking about to them. I'm not perfect either, but God can speak through anyone who is open to hear what he has to say. Some times he'll give info that's personal like that just to open ones mind to listen. Other wise a person would still have a closed heart to recieve the message. I too had a dream last night about the factnet. I saw a small pen like a barn with animals in it. Each animal was trying to be the entertainer trying to out do the other animal. So that they could draw the crowds to watch them. I was on the side lines and when I saw a sheep that was in labor with babies. I tried to get in through the other animals who was always blocking my way, and when I entered the small enclosed pen there was so much manure that it was coming up over my shiny clean shoes, and I was grossed out, but I kept on fighting to get to this poor sheep. When I finally got to this sheep in heavy labor I got her out of the pen. I had her standing beside the outside of the pen while I quickly turned on a faucette and cleaned off my shoes. Then I helped this sheep deliver her new baby. That was the most powerful dream and then the lady who owned the sheep came up and put that poor Mother with her new born right back in that manure filled pen to preform for the people. I was so mad I could have shoved her face right in that manure, but before I got that chance to preform my duty of helping her taste the sheep dip. I was taken to another part of a new city whre I was leading these same animals and they were the sweetest gentle animals, because they had walked where I had and they had lived in that mess, and were now cleaned up. I didn't have to shove that owner in her own mess, because I was called elsewhere to lead the same broken entertaining animals. The horse was my favorite I just couldn't pet and love him enough. He was so strong and so gorgious with shiny fur, but his personality was so gentle. He had been broken completely and was following me for my strength. I helped lead him even when he was still pulling this huge work cart behind him. I nurtured him along with these other wounded animals. They had lived in the mess and now were clean and gentle, but again it was this horse that had my 100% love. He was so big and magestic as he followed me. I couldn't help but be drawn to him, and we walked together in unity along the street. I woke up feeling very refreshed and brand new today. It's a new day to make it the best future ever. Wingsy | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 561 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
"As for this statement: People latch on to famous people." I am looking for some famous people to latch onto. One of the best ways to do this, btw, is to simply unhook your belt, let it out of a pants loop or two, then slide your belt under and over the belt of a celebrity - quickly run your belt back through the loops and viola! You are latched to your very own celebrity. Did this to Amy Grant last year in Nashville - two things to note... when Vince Gill started slapping me, it was impossible to get away (Amy would NOT run, regardless of the firm rebuking and spiritual defilement I performed about her) AND when she got into the limo and drove away, it was everything I could do to keep up alongside the car. Thankfully my belt broke prior to merging onto I65... I think it was loosened/stretched from all the Jack in the Box and fruitcakes. | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 562 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
I think probably the best celebrities to latch onto are Orson Welles or Wilford Brimley because they don't move around much and when they do, they don't move quickly. Any other suggestions? | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Aw, but wingsy you already do those kinds of things. I am sitting here in tears for all that God wants to do in this place. Out of all these ladies here you were the only one who showed me Jesus. I'd love to hang around..but God has me in His intensive care unit..Gotta go to counselling. I was wondering if God had any true believers anymore. I found one, perhaps there are others. Be blessed...for if you do it unto the least , it shall also be done unto you. Sometimes it is a difference between life and death. Bright blessings to you Wingsy. Your little invisible sister | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Opps I said bright blessings and that could be considered wiccan.. How about God bless? "get a grip"... get a grip... You know that sarcasm and satire are usually a defense mechanism...is it getting too real and human for you here? Just use your back button, okay? | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 586 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
(+: Oh was the funny getagrip HA!HA!HA!HA! Now ifin ya want to latch yer belt onto another then lets at least go for some one that we know lives a wealthy life and helps others while traveling all around the world. Lets go looking for Oprah getagrip, and I'll let you use yer name first to hook her and then I'll jump onto her new smaller size belt. She might not be able to handle all of the weight again, but I think she'll manage. It'll be just like the good old days and then when she hits that treadmill and we start to feel the whip lash burn. We'll just fly to new heights. Or we'll have to watch out for her Stedman's kick off...... OOPS there it was... To OOPS there we gooooooooo....lol Thanks for the bust my gut laughter so when's our new holiday trip to Oprah? We should travel just like she did too and sleep in a TP hotel and have a whole bunch of tv cameras to cars following us. Yup now there's a new trip (+: | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 587 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
OH witness4god Now you have me in tears my sweet lamb. God has so many wonderful blessings for you. I love you, you sweet lady. For when the battle seems its hardest hit that is when God brings the breast plate to protect us from the flying darts. You are such a sweet soul, and I really do love you and care about you. No matter what is said to wound it is from the healing touch from God's own right hand that we are healed. God will never lead you into any battle that he hasn't already made the way to exit it, and bring you through it. Have a wonderful, aweome day my friend. I'll always be here for you. Wingsy Now where's that box of tissues I know I put them some where. Oh well my tshirt sleeve will do. Now to look like the raccoon with my mascara running. I love you witness4god | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Yep, You know WINGS, That is the thing about humans, they judge what they think they can see and not what they can not see. Yes it is true a while back I was greatly decieved by someone who decieved by many here yet it worked out well becuase I was given information that was helpful to another. I made sure to go and apologize to those who I had offended. It is not a sin to be decieved but it is a sin to purposefully decieve and misuse others. Of the three people I apologized to, two of the three acceppeted my apology. You were one and that came to be a blessing to both of us. I am glad that you understood the situation and cam eto see my heart. Then I wa splaced in a situation of my marriage and I was scared to death becuase of the gerat abuse I had gone through and god used you to bring me adn my husband together. BTW he has gotten used to all the fire that has come And God used you to bless my son, and that story is one I will not share publically. God allowed adn used his suufering to bring me into help a group of kids that needed it. Again you wer ethere to encourage me along. What IF you had not obeyed God and spoken the truth to me? There would be many lives not touched and one like me who wa sset up to be destroyed. That is the obedience of the Lord. To do the righteous thing when no one was looking. The word of God says" let another's lips praise thee and not thy own." People are quick to judge by actions, but I will say dont be so quick. The things that God does are done under the cover of darkness, and that is where he does the greatest things. And whne there is a lot of discomfort and flesh showing it means that God is on the scene, to deliver save and redeem. So anyway, thats my thought for the day. AND btw, WINGS..without knowing it, all my life I have been the runt at 5'2 and that has always made me pickin's for everyone else to hit and beat and make fun of. So yes without knowing it, I am part of your dream. I live with much many and scars in my body becuase people thought mistakenly that I had no worth and value and who would stick up for me? So again thanks. Witness...theres a reason why God told me to use that name. | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 565 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
WAG: Oprah it is... I know Chicago too, AND the West Side where her offices are. We'll leave the hubcaps at home, if you know what I mean. I'll distract her, you "latch" on baby. Say "hey" to Stedman. GAG | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 588 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
getagrip yer on and I'll watch out for stedman's big foot from behind thanks again for the laughs. witness4god You are such a blessing to me, and I am so thrilled that everything worked out for you, and witness4god I just know that God is going to use your gifts along with your son's and your family to reach even more for Christ. God bless you my friend Wingsy WAG (+: | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 566 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
He may try to give you the right foot of fellowship... | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 669 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I think I really disappointed my mother because I didn't get that hung up on physical looks. In fact, I still think I dream things about that. I agree with witness HFL - don't let anyone put those things on you. But I'll say this - I think there is something inside that is helping this be put on you. I have hangups like that too. They are a bit different. For the most part, when I am in my own little world (which is easy for me to be) - I could care less what I look like. And I never really thought about getting old - that's just not where my mind is. But I do know my physical flaws and sometimes it disappoints me but I also don't feel that threatened about it. It might be something I might momentarily like to change and it may bother me some but not enough to give up the rest of who I am. You may ultimately feel this way too. I don't know. When I left home and would go home, I might go home to visit and not be wearing make up or not have my hair just styled right. In that way I am kinda down to earth and relaxed. Besides that I was just going home and not out on the town. My mother would take me aside and want to put make up on and fix my hair and I was more interested in doing other things. Gee - if I spent my life dressing up - I would miss sooo much!!!! Just not willing to make that trade. But I still have dreams where my mother or a motherlike picture is trying to dress me or fix my hamburger (lol) because they don't like the fact that I am going around nude (scarey - I know) or because my hamburger is simple. By the way wings - I had a dream with a horse in it. I thought the horse was me but I could be wrong. I never dreamed about being an animal before and I understand I may have the wrong understanding about the dream. I love you HFL for you - regardless of feet or anything else! I do agree with Witness on this one! | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 457 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
grace, My post was to poke fun at wings because wings started trying to "put" things on me. Things that the Lord is keeping off of me. My feet are fine-- both physically and "spiritually". getagrip, This is for "you".... I don't want to box.... it's wings whose "tough enough" for you if you're still looking for a "brawl"... wings already accepted your challenge. She has a quick "jab" so remember to duck. Here's an inside tip, the "old" girl keeps swinging till she tires herself out.... She's gotten "bottom" heavy from feasting at all the "picnics" in Carman's honor. She appears to be a little "slaphappy" and so she keeps swiping at air. I'm sure you're invited to her next big splash, why else would you be "here"...her picnics always offer the choices tidbits in "gossip"... "nameless" gossip, so no one knows what their eating.... she wants to keep them guessing what "poison" she is feeding them. But inspite of what she offers you, know that all her sweet "talk" is made of "artificial" sugar and preservatives-- that's not "spiritually" healthy, even for those who believe in healing. | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 575 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
I "need" "a" spiritual "pedicure"... | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 458 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
getagrip, Just be sure your "pedicure" is licensed by the Holy Spirit to give to you, so you will be ready to stand firm where He calls you. It causes problems to get a pedicure from someone who doesn't know what they are doing. It makes taking a righteous stand painful to endure and impossible to do. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 671 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I understand that HFL . . . please consider that I might understand. In fact, I am very, very good at empathizing. That's why I was able to let go of my perspective at one point and look at yours. Anyway, my mom always said that I didn't really need anybody that I was fine by myself. I never felt that way but it does come in handy whenever people cannot be in agreement. Like with no no - she has always wanted me away and the funny thing is that she doesn't realize that it is not a big thing for me to be away or by myself. I prefer that many times. But I think that God didn't put me to be in the world so I try to mingle inspite of the fact that I am an introvert. That means at times I can participate in picnics. Fact is I can easily go in and out of any environment. But it is my decision to do this. I know this sounds like it may not be related to the discussion but I guess what I'm saying is that I don't have to be here. It is my choice. I don't need the fighting. When I say things to you or anyone else it is generally - not always - in love. So yes, God is keeping it off of you but I was just trying to encourage. God tries to keep things off me too but I'm usually the biggest obstacle of keeping things on myself. God Bless, | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Grace, I hate to butt in, but what you said about mothers resonates with me. It must be the generation they grew up in but I think all mothers wanted their daughters to be pretty, popular and successful. It took me almost dying last Spring for my mom to lay off of me. My mom is like your mom. I still say it is harder for females in this society. Our worth and value seems to be placed in our looks and size, and not our wisdom and intelligence. I always wondered if my mom cared so much about my looks, why did I always get hair-less midge or barbie with one arm and no shoes??? Anyway, carry on--you are making some good points. BTW why don't they make preacher Suzie dolls, or missionary midges??? w4g | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 589 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Oh hfl you're still here? I thought that you would have already hit your end zone bed by now. To me you are just a vocal hiccup, and a lot of hot air that will soon pass like the wind. As for speaking my poisen to others like witness4god Yeah hfl I'll keep on encouraging them and uplifting them with life, and not death. I have never used any names in any of my post and as for tidbits get a life. As for you hfl at least I don't hide behind a fake name like you do... So why don't you stop talking about a big back end of mine when you're really the one sittin on it, and tell everyone here who you really are then hmmm???? Or are you still afraid of speaking the truth??? See its easy for you to talk all of the tough talking smack, but its not easy to be real with telling the truth who you really are is it? So keep on living behind a lie hfl, and I'll continue being myself, and not hiding from anyone. There in the big difference between you and I. I don't talk the smack I talk the truth and what people see is what they get, and you are still hiding behind a fake name because you're still afraid...... Think about that hfl the next time that you attack me for having fun with picnics and fellowship. Thanks getagrip lol! and I need a spiritual mega butt pedicure for old girls of forty years old (+: from what was just said about me. (+: Grace I too understand where you're coming from. When you look in the mirror always say wow its going to a good day today, and I look good today. It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside its what's on the inside that counts. As for me I'm now told what a beauty I am from hfl as a mega picnic big bottomed old girl. Gee I feel terrific. HMMM now I'm going to bouce on my end zone to bed with happy bic mack meals to count instead of lost sheep. Goodnight hfl, and please don't step on my picnic basket. There's a Bible in there that's for fellowship, and I don't want the words of life flattened. | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 673 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I guess I don't see what's wrong with some meat on the butt. If I was going to tease someone about it - it's only because I knew that they would be teased by it. Although, I don't care that much one way or the other - I kinda like meat on the butt. Besides for those that do care about physical stuff so much - I should remind them that people are spending big money to get big butts right now. LOL! Thanks to Jaylo or however you spell her name. Anyway, I hear ya witness. Superchick has these great lyrics that go: We are a fire inside We are an army asleep We are a people awaking to follow their dreams We don't have time for your games We have our own goals to score There are trophies to win Instead of being one of yours This is one thing I like about that particular generation as long as they still remain empathetic and caring for others. (Message edited by Grace2u on January 23, 2007) | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 593 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I agree, and it's also like another song too. I like big butts and I cannot lie. You other brothers can deny. When a girl walks by with an idy bitty waiste and a round thing in yer face. I get sprung, cause deep in the jeans she's wearing. I'm hooked and I can't stop starin. OH baby I wantta git witcha, and take yer picture. Yup it's a good thang for a bubble thang that holds the jeans up, and my size 12's have never complained yet HA!HA!HA! Even though that rap was filled with dirty talkin it still shows what a real man's thinkin, and that he loves the brothers words cause the brother's speakin the truth. Have a great day grace2u | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 580 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
Sir Mix A Lot? | ||
| cybermom Advanced Member Username: cybermom Post Number: 673 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.186.102.112 |
get These women are a few sandwiches short of a picnic,no? I know Carman is just sitting by his laptop with factnet as his home page, waiting with baited breath for these whackos to post something about him. | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 585 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
and a couple ants... | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 586 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
They're about as goofy as a grown man flying around in a cultbusting spaceship with a crew of adoring females, one of whom has got to be the biggest liar in the Yarrumite Galaxy... Think about the irony of this. ToeJam calls an enormously successful entertainer a "gay bodybuilder" and is very skeptical of him and his ministry credentials; BUT has no problems whatsoever with a spaceship flying, lonely to the point of desperation, songwriting, space dork. That is his idea of a "man"... I love it!!! These people are priceless. If it wasn't for these story lines, I would have left FACTless ages ago... You can't see this big of a load of crap in a movie (except the Carman thread, on Lifetime Network) - you can only get it here!! Honestly, I don't know if I can take much more.  | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 675 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
The peanut gallery . . . The two of you remind me of the critics on the Muppet Show! | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 676 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
I'm afraid what that makes me though?!!! LOL! It's not easy being green . . . . Nah . . . I'll be Miss Piggy and karate chop ya! AAAAAYYYYEEEEEEEE YYYAAAAAHHHHHH! | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 590 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
I LOVE those two old guys on the Muppet Show... thank you!!! | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 594 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
OH Miss piggy, I liked yer chops they sounded very powerful, and right on cue too well done. ribbit! | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 678 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Yea, those old geezers are funny! LOL Wings! And for Franklin: PIGS IN SPACEEEEEEE! | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 39 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
GET A GRIP!!! WOW ! WOW! You said" love it!!! These people are priceless. If it wasn't for these story lines, I would have left FACTless ages ago... You can't see this big of a load of crap in a movie (except the Carman thread, on Lifetime Network) - you can only get it here!! Oh I simply must object to your naivity and send you somewhere reallife for your entertainment value. If you want true LIFESTYLES voyeurship you simply must head to the mall to a high end store like…MACY’s. There you can view the cornucopia of mental illness and human depravity like you never experienced, from the kleptomaniacs to the cross dresser. You haven’t lived until you’ve serviced people like these. Cross dressers? “Sir, if you are going to buy those hip hugger jeans you must balance out the top with a fluffy DKNY top.” “No, sir, I don’t care if you did play “Liza” at the cabaret, you simply can NOT enter the ladies room”. NO sir, you haven’t fully experienced whackiness until you have taken on a band of Gypsey’s who will spit at you and a curse on you for busting “little JoJO” with a set of 200 dollar sterling silver in his pants. Or psychotic manic depressives who forget to take their lithium and holding the store captive until the CEO flies in to “ take personal care with their 25 $ purchase”. NO sir, you haven’t experienced life until you have been told off in 7 different languages and 24 dilalects, nor watched people masturbate with store items. Then there’s the PDA’s..which translates live exhibition shows on 500 dollar blankets. They say that sex sells. You haven’t lived until you walked into the restroom where two men are having sex with other. Or walked into the WOMAN’s room clearly marked where a man and his kids just whip it out and take a whiz in front of you. No sir, you haven’t lived until some middle aged man, hoped up on webporn believes that the local store is a place to hit up on mid aged clerks, nor be second in line only after he hit on a 76 year old clerk. I don’t personally believe that Penthouse stories of public sex are all that fulfilling. You haven’t LIVED until you’ve been stalked by customer so badly that you have to have an escort in and out of your . Or caught credit card thieves who vow to wait in the parking lot to “kick yo Butt”. You Haven’t lived til you look square in the faces of outright liars who are in for a buck, From counterfeiters to little old ladies who tell you that the blanket they bought ACTUALLY did have iron burns marks on it when they bought it. You truly haven’t lived until you’ve seen a drunk wealthy woman buy a suitcase just to jack other items she could well afford. Or have foreign shoppers diss you and your country “YEWWW AH-MER-IKANS disgust me.” Have you ever been cursed by ALLAH because you accidently touched a customer wearing a burkha while only doing your job. Or witness people smacking their kids or girlfriends around in public. And then the messes people make. Yes sir, you are missing a true opportunity for yourself without spending a dime on internet access. I’d hate to see your “ simon-esque” abilities wasted. There is money to be made for you. You could insult customers, entertain clerks and bounce the odd ones. I see TOP DOLLAR for you. But be careful with that tongue of yours. There are some 400 pound gangsta girls with gold grilled teeth who would love to play “foosball with the white boy” So make you haste for a TRUE life experience to the mall. And don’t forget your 15 % coupon Signed…happy stay at home mom with an eye twitch. | ||
| angie0401 Advanced Member Username: angie0401 Post Number: 539 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 69.39.85.116 |
getagrip said: Think about the irony of this. ToeJam calls an enormously successful entertainer a "gay bodybuilder" and is very skeptical of him and his ministry credentials; BUT has no problems whatsoever with a spaceship flying, lonely to the point of desperation, songwriting, space dork. That is his idea of a "man"... Maybe Captain Franklin will start a mission to rid the universe of homophobic people like jimito. I would think this kind of prejudice and judgmental attitude about another Christian would be high on their list, wouldn't you? Unless jimito is near and dear to their hearts, which of course "he" denies... | ||
| cybermom Advanced Member Username: cybermom Post Number: 674 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.186.102.112 |
witness You are hysterical. No wonder I never went into retail. I was comtemplating it if/when I get laid off, but NO THANKS! I'd rather be a telemarketer. Hey, maybe I can apply to be in the next Carman video. | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 593 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
What Macy's really needs is more gay, evangelistic bodybuilders... Witnesss I worked retail in the mid 80's girl!! Parachute pants, Guess jeans with leather "scratch and sniff" crotch, Cyndi Lauper/Madonna wannabes, pleather pants, Contempo Casual girls hitting you up for a slice of Sbarro's at the food court, The Fixx (Saved by Zero), The Go-Go's and Flock of Seagulls (And I Ra-aaa-an) on the store stereo, folding tables, Lionel Richie bowling shoes, mousse on your BIFPIB (Business in Front, Party in Back) haircut, going to see Pee Wee's Big Adventure after work, watching the mad mall walkers, 8 hour shift on Saturday... I've done the mall baby and it was brutal!!! That was a wonderful post w4g, VERY funny. | ||
| cybermom Advanced Member Username: cybermom Post Number: 680 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.186.102.112 |
Oh, no, I'm a mall-walker now!!! | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 596 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Yes that was right on witness and even to the ear pierced kids with their hair held high in new colored fashions. They too make the mall very entertaining. We also have to watch out now for the youth with runners on wheelies that fly by. When they almost knock our heavy ends off our feet. Yes the mall can also be dangerous its a jungle in there, and even the security officers are way too gravity blessed to even chase after a thief. They just use their two way and radio up ahead. "Yo dude #29 runner heading your way door 9 grab the tall purple hair, repeat tall purple UMPH!!!! Repeat just hit by the partner in crime now heading your way. Grab the tall purple hair, and the tall orange hair. Lots of piercings everywhere. Watch out for hookings #40 out!" Yup ya really feel safe with security that out weighs both thiefs on runner wheelies with tall colored hair and new piercings that help them stand out in a crowd. Then the new security officer gets hit by the first thief and finished off by the second while the gravity blessed security officer eats another twinkie. Sad but so true a mall needs new fit body guards that are not gay so they don't cry when they break a nail. It would be great to have some men from the local gym with muscles to work the malls. Yeah that would really be a blessing and make me want to go there often. I may be married but I'm not dead and shopping would take on a whole new way to shop and enjoy the sites too. I know that there's a wonderful God above who created men for our shopping enjoyment. "Hey security officer! put down that twinkie and give me fifty.... HA!HA!HA! And bring me that scratch and sniff pizza box too." (+: Life is so good aint it? Yup sure is. | ||
| cybermom Advanced Member Username: cybermom Post Number: 682 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.186.102.112 |
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| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 597 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
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| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 597 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
(just trying to fit in)... | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 598 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
HA!HA!HA! Now that's a tight fit getagrip ya just have ta hang on tighter....  Hey Kookie where are ya my friend I need another set of laughs on the picnic site. Witness brought a buffett????? And she brought a boom box, and I'm sittin on my fat bottomed end zone with a new song..... | ||
| getagrip Advanced Member Username: getagrip Post Number: 599 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 72.77.188.86 |
"I would think this kind of prejudice and judgmental attitude about another Christian would be high on their list" Yes, that's what you would think, unless of course?... | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 599 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Yes unless of course?...  | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 600 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I just recieved this and wanted to share it, because it was so good.Hope that you like it everyone. SAND AND STONE TWO FRIENDS WERE WALKING THROUGH THE DESERT. DURING SOME POINT OF THE JOURNEY, THEY HAD AN ARGUMENT; AND ONE FRIEND SLAPPED THE OTHER ONE IN THE FACE. THE ONE WHO GOT SLAPPED WAS HURT, BUT WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING, WROTE IN THE SAND: TODAY MY BEST FRIEND SLAPPED ME IN THE FACE. THEY KEPT ON WALKING, UNTIL THEY FOUND AN OASIS, WHERE THEY DECIDED TO TAKE A BATH THE ONE WHO HAD BEEN SLAPPED GOT STUCK IN THE MIRE AND STARTED DROWNING, BUT THE FRIEND SAVED HIM. AFTER HE RECOVERED FROM THE NEAR DROWNING, HE W ROTE ON A STONE: "TODAY MY BEST FRIEND SAVED MY LIFE ". THE FRIEND WHO HAD SLAPPED AND SAVED HIS BEST FRIEND ASKED HIM, "AFTER I HURT YOU, YOU WROTE IN THE SAND AND NOW, YOU WRITE ON A STONE, WHY?" THE FRIEND REPLIED "WHEN SOMEONE HURTS US WE SHOULD WRITE IT DOWN IN SAND, WHERE WINDS OF FORGIVENESS CAN ERASE IT AWAY. BUT, WHEN SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING GOOD FOR US, WE MUST ENGRAVE IT IN STONE WHERE NO WIND CAN EVER ERASE IT." LEARN TO WRITE YOUR HURTS IN THE SAND AND TO CARVE YOUR BENEFITS IN STONE. THEY SAY IT TAKES A MINUTE TO FIND A SPECIAL PERSON, AN HOUR TO APPRECIATE THEM, A DAY TO LOVE THEM, BUT THEN AN ENTIRE LIFE TO FORGET THEM. | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Oh No CYBERMOM.. Telemarketing..no! I must warn you..that isn’t safe. I did phone collections while in college ( with a pseudonymn). That was the beginning of my hearing loss and understanding of x-rated words along with the usual “Kick yo butt” scenario, And..that was a reverend! People are on the no-call list but are saavy to telemarketing calls. My lawyer friend taught me well. His wife was still on list even though they’d been divorced for years. He got a call asking for her. He said “No she doesn’t live here anymore.” They said can we have the number where she lives. “ I could give it to you but they won’t take your calls.” “Why?’ “She went bonkers a few years ago and we put her in a mental asylum” “Oh No!!” The kid was laughing hard in the background. That’s him crying…everytime one of you people call it’s just like salt in his wounds, so I appreciate it if you would take her name off your list.” I heard the woman crying from across the room. With a name like “cybermom” you’d be good for a Carman film as he seems to have moms in them. Instead of “Yo! Kidz” it could be “Yo! MOMZ” because we are a huge disenfranchised group. We could have moms of all kinds: working moms, at home moms, single moms, old moms , young moms. Moms with no legs, hairless moms, HAIRY moms, and scary moms. WE could do a remake of “ Satan Bite the Dust”: “You demons of dirty dishes, get out of my house! You spirit of cellulite, you’re not welcome on my body! Get off my thighs! SATAN, wipe the dust! Then we could have moms rushing through malls, offices, and plastic surgeon’s office singing “ It’s OUR Turn Now”! I see a huge market for this kind of thing! I’d audition with ya but I’ve lost my identity. I’ve been called “MOM” for so long, I no longer answer to my first name. I don’t even remember my first name. I’d check my license in my purse but I realize that NOTHING in My purse is ACTUALLY mine. Will my Macy’s card do? It says “ customer”. Love "customer"/ ex-retail, ex-telemarketter, ex-medical worker | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 43 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Oh Wings, That is so precious and sweet. I like that. Things have been so hot and heavy at home, it's either cry or laugh. I can't help the satire though. Some smart person in our house bought the trilogy of the "Blue Collar Tour " With Jeff Foxworthy. There have been numerous screenings of said tapes. Now, every day in the morning I hear a repeat of every redneck, Hear's your sign jokes. It NEVER ENDS. I picked my son up at school today for a doctor's appointment and as we were walking to the old birdpooped covered NOVA-caine with the seatbelt hanging out in the rain, My son acuses me of being a ( you guessed it)_ REDNECK! After I adjusted the safety pin on my bra- strap and wiped my snotty, tear stained nose on my coat, I looked at him and said " Never call MAMA a redneck. You ought know what rednecks are..they are your grandparents!". Tonight, I got my revenge. As tucked him into bed early ( GET "ER DONE") and turned off his pc ( Here's YOUR SIGN") I pointed at the pile of two -week old track stained undies standing in the corner , kissed him and SAID " You might be a REDNECK if...." How about, "You might be a true friend " if.... Huggs, from the insane asylum | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 44 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
GET AGRIP: I am sorry to tell ya that "pleather pants" are still around. Only they are now "butt-less" pleather pants. Not just for gay men, but 300 lb chicks with the "wild cyndi laupner" hairdo's! I think Cher started that trend. Wingsy: I am with you on overweight cops. Women cops rule! They can be 4'11 yet take down a 10 -foot gorilla and still want more action. Our good friend the security guard at school was in tight with the kids and rocked. There was no " off the clock for her". You had a problem- she was there. "Boyfriend whipping your butt? I'll be there with the cuffs, AFTER we've had some fun". I live in the town of shame when it comes to cops. That's why we all carry a cross on the dashboard and a smith and wesson in the trunk. I get the gangsta kids, but you have watch the silver haired ladies and familes with babies. They will place anything in the kids poo heavy diapers and know you can't or won't search them. I don't shop anymore. I buy online. My family got tired of praying for me and wondering if I safely made it past the parking lot at work. I am all the wiser for it. I have now eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in retail. It's only logical that I ended up on Factnet. Bless you my lil cop friend. ~ reliving the traumas of my mall daze. | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 601 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Thanks Witness, if you liked that one then here's another awesome read that I just recieved today, and will encourage many. Blessings Wingsy You are in your car driving home. Thoughts wander to the game you want to see or meal you want to eat, when suddenly a sound unlike any you've ever heard fills the air. The sound is high above you. A trumpet? A choir? A choir of trumpets? You don't know, but you want to know. So you pull over, get out of your car, and look up. As you do, you see you aren't the only curious one. The roadside has become a parking lot. Car doors are open, and people are staring at the sky. Shoppers are racing out of the grocery store. The Little League baseball game across the street has come to a halt. Players and parents are searching the clouds. And what they see, and what you see, has never before been seen. As if the sky were a curtain, the drapes of the atmosphere part. A brilliant light spills onto the earth. There are no shadows. None. From whence came the light begins to tumble a river of color spiking crystals of every hue ever seen and a million more never seen. Riding on the flow is an endless fleet of angels. They pass through the curtains one myriad at a time, until they occupy every square inch of the sky. North. South. East. West. Thousands of silvery wings rise and fall in unison, and over the sound of the trumpets, you can hear the cherubim and seraphim chanting, Holy, holy, holy. The final flank of angels is followed by twenty-four silver- bearded elders and a multitude of souls who join the angels in worship. Presently the movement stops and the trumpets are silent, leaving only the triumphant triplet: Holy, holy, holy. Between each word is a pause. With each word, a profound reverence. You hear your voice join in the chorus. You don't know why you say the words, but you know you must. Suddenly, the heavens are quiet. All is quiet. The angels turn, you turn, the entire world turns and there He is. Jesus. Through waves of light you see the silhouetted figure of Christ the King. He is atop a great stallion, and the stallion is atop a billowing cloud. He opens his mouth, and you are surrounded by his declaration: I am the Alpha and the Omega. The angels bow their heads. The elders remove their crowns. And before you is a Figure so consuming that you know, instantly you know: Nothing else matters. Forget stock markets and school reports. Sales meetings and football games. Nothing is newsworthy.. All that mattered, matters no more.. for Christ has come. . This morning when the Lord opened a window to Heaven, he saw me, and he asked: My child, what is your greatest wish for today? I responded: "Lord please; take care of the person who is reading this message, their family and their special friends. They deserve it and I love them very much" The love of God is like the ocean, you can see its beginnings but Not its end. ANGELS EXIST, but sometimes, since they don't all have wings we call them FRIENDS, SUCH AS YOU. | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Oh wow, that's profound. BTW, WINGS that certain lil person you helped was just blessed with his first part in a play. I am glad God doesn't throw people away just because they are less than perfect. Love rolls onward like a dynamo, doesn't it? thanks! mom of two special ed kids | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 602 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
I am so beyond thrilled. Tell him how proud I am of him ok? He will do wonderful things, because he is stronger. God is really going to use his gifts witness, and it's just the beggining of new opened doors. Thank you for the great news, and email me anytime ok? More than just two special ed kids. you are a Mother of talented blessed children that God is going to use for his Glory. Blessings Wingsy | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 679 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Well if we are bragging - my child got first chair in his instrument today (out of 14). Good kid - perhaps he will rebel in his subtle ways but still I think I'm lucky. About the worst thing I did to my mom was insist on coloring my hair dark at times (since she insisted that I should be a blonde). If I had been a real rebel I guess I would have dressed gothic (although that is not me either) - just wanted to be myself. That was really sweet wings. Witness, I'm glad that Wings has been a blessing to you. (Message edited by Grace2u on January 26, 2007) | ||
| wingsaglow Advanced Member Username: wingsaglow Post Number: 604 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 71.38.210.78 |
Thank you grace2u your boy sounds very talented. May his gifts be blessed with many open doors. Blessings Wingsy | ||
| witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
GRACE! Congratulations on your son. From what I have heard that "music" runs in the family! WTG! As far as Blessings Go, They all come through God, and the Lord said in Psalms 23, He Prepares a table before us in the presence of our enemies. It doesn't mean I haven't been blessed by you, either. I read and observe. But it is nice to know I am among real people here and SOME are willing to show it! You have children?? How many? Ages? | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 460 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
Psalm 26 2-5, 12 says-- "Test me, O Lord, and try me, examine my heart and my mind; for your love is ever before me, and I walk continually in your truth. I do not sit with deceitful men, (deceitful- hollow, designing, insincere, false) nor do I consort with hypocrites;(hypocrisy- a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.) I abhore the assembly of evildoers (evildoers are marked by anger and irritability and spite.) and refuse to sit with the wicked"(wicked-playfully malicious,troublesome and dangerous, spiteful, beastly, manners are unjustifiable). "My feet stand on level ground; in the great assembly I will praise the Lord."} | ||
| witness4god Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Gal 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Col 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also [do] ye. Col 3:14 And above all these things [put on] charity, which is the bond of perfectness. Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 461 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
w4g you gave these scriptures-- " Col 3:16 'Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. "Col 3:17 'And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, [do] all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.'" witness4god Junior Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 11:36 pm: Wings... SO , you got the beat??? Kind alike a Female Desi?? Cool:-) Can we have smores by the fire and sing KUMBAYA? I used to play a mean tamborine and uh-huh the OMNI_CHORD. It gets little chilly at night so I thought I'd wear my devil costume... Red, leathery, with a fur trimmed collar. If any snakes come crawling I've got my pitchfork:-) Do you think just this one example of your posts even comes close to fulfilling any of these scriptures? You did this in the name of Jesus. Was this an example of the wisdom of Christ dwelling in you richly? This "wisdom" seems to be where you teach and admonish others from, but it does not come from Jesus Christ. You claim you want "unity" and I've been through this before with others, but to consort means to be in harmony and agreement with, but, as the scripture God had me give, it reveals that I must not be in harmony or agreement with you or with wings or with pretty much most posters on factnet and remain blameless before God! This is the reason God had me to warn against "picnics". | ||
| witness4god Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
That wasn't God...that was the accuser of the brethren, of whom is your Father He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch [which] he made. His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high. These verses speak of you, who quenches the Spirit. I am sorry but My Spirit does not recognize you as one of the sheep. Therefore I do not follow you. Your way is death. | ||
| witness4god Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 55 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
Why yes, Bruja, didn't you and kookie call me the devil? Always amazing...how darkness lies against the children of light? You know what, God is almost finished cleaning the camp out... He is very good about taking an axe to the root | ||
| witness4god Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 56 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. Jam 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but [is] earthly, sensual, devilish. Jam 3:16 For where envying and strife [is], there [is] confusion and every evil work. That pretty much defines you and your fruits. | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 463 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
w4g wrote-- Username: witness4god Post Number: 54 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:48 pm: That wasn't God...that was the accuser of the brethren, of whom is your Father:-) He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch [which] he made. His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate." _______________________________________________ What you wrote above is what happened to you and wings last night. You both wanted a picnic and God used your own words to trap you. But you cannot accept this and that is why you are posting all these scriptures but you never learn and so by your own doing you keep bringing judgement onto your head. _______________________________________________ Username: witness4god Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:10 pm: And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the [women] that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive [that come] unto you? Eze 13:19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear [your] lies? Eze 13:20 ¶ Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make [them] fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, [even] the souls that ye hunt to make [them] fly. Eze 13:21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD. Eze 13:22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life: Eze 13:23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD." | ||
| grace2u Advanced Member Username: grace2u Post Number: 695 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 70.178.195.217 |
Witness, 1 - preteen It seems to me that there is a balance somewhere in the Bible between living in the world and not being part of it and also going into all the World. I struggle with this at time. You just have to let the Holy Spirit lead. | ||
| witness4god Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
What does God say about LYING? You falsely stated that my husband and I were some part of a group in Texas that took TBN down? You falsely acused. Apparantly the "god' you serve applauds lying. Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord. You should repent of your own sins before attempting to correct others | ||
| hope_faith_and_love Intermediate Member Username: hope_faith_and_love Post Number: 464 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.129.39.65 |
w4g wrote-- Username: witness4god Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 3:30 pm: What does God say about LYING? You falsely stated that my husband and I were some part of a group in Texas that took TBN down? You falsely acused. Apparantly the "god' you serve applauds lying. Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord. You should repent of your own sins before attempting to correct others:-)" This is what I wrote, "W4G wants to control.... Is she from Texas? I know there is a group out of Texas who has "links" to the LA Times. This group proclaimed that they worked 24/7 to take down TBN. " I did not say you were part of this group. I just said I knew of this group. And I only brought this up because the article no no posted was from the LA Times and I thought that ekklesia had said you were txrose-- originally I thought that was her-- and so all these pieces of memory came at me at once and that's why I was reminded of this group. I had no idea that you would find this so offensive. I still do not understand why this would so anger you-- especially considering what your husband wrote. As for the controlling part that is what I felt you were trying to do to me before you stopped posting. And to be more accurate no one has "took TBN down". That is false. Why don't you repent of your sins before attempting to correct me. This is the best you could come up with to accuse me with when there is so much glaringly wrong with every post you have put up only proves that my reasons for resisting consorting with you is correct. So from now on am I to assume that as long as you do not address hfl or hope, faith, and love in your posts then they are directed to everyone? Fine. For the record you are calling all of these women witches and saying woe to them. | ||
| witness4god Member Username: witness4god Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 70.120.179.79 |
TO HOPE FAITH AND LOVE. For the record, we are calling you a witch and no one else. To me, Witnesses' husband, you are a true sociopath. You fit the definition to a T. See below. American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultu |
