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     zaz (zaz) Intermediate Member Username: zaz Post Number: 182 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.23.170.222 |
Characteristics of a Religious Windfall The term "religious windfall" applies to any religious organization that takes on most of the following characteristics: 1) it survives as a nonprofit corporation; 2) it is headed by a self-appointed head or "personality"; 3) its delivery is through mass media such as television, radio, or magazines; 4) its programs are designed to appeal to people in ways that imply that the respondents should send in money to the organizations; 5) its funds are administered by trustees who have been carefully chosen by the head of the organization; 6) the organization carries the name of the founder; 7) the "programs" of the organization tend to aggrandize the capabilities of its founder; 8) there is an essence of "hero worship" inherent in the types of programs which the organization sponsors; 9) the programs of the organization appeal to people who want to get ahead financially, emotionally, or physically; 10) the authority of God is conveyed to have been transferred to the organization's founder or current head; 11) and, finally, the organization's head demonstrates an extraordinarily large ego. If you're looking at any religious organization and thinking of contributing your own money to that organization, then you should check it out against the above characteristics. If your investigation results in a "yes" answer to many Of the above characteristics, then you'd probably be better off spending your money somewhere else... perhaps with the local church of your choice, the United Way, or some other charitable organization that effects social improvements without enriching the pocketbook of the founder himself. Sounds like the "Robb Thompson Rolex Watch, Fancy Car Ministry" to me... | ||
| zaz (zaz) Intermediate Member Username: zaz Post Number: 209 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.72.172.200 |
Like Benny Hinn, Mike Murdoch, and homosexual Paul Crouch from TBN... Robb Thompson continues to refuse to disclose the financial statements of Family Harvest Church.. Winning in Life, and the multitude of other shell corporations that he operates. It's pretty obvious to anyone who is breathing that the financial abuse in Robb Thompson's organizations is rampant and out of control. As Christians, we need to remember that God has called all of us to be good stewards over that which He has entrusted to us. If you give to organizations who waste His resources on 9 or 10 High-valued cars (Porches, Mercedes, BMW's, Corvettes... all at the same time), $50,000 diamond rings, numerous Rolex watches, and $5000 Brioni suits... well, then you will also be held accountable by God for your haphazard, thoughtless giving. Let's pray that God direct us in how we should give. And let's also pray that someday Robb Thompson comes clean... straightens out and eliminates the financial abuse in his organizations... properly disclosing how they handle God's resources according to the guidelines of the Evangelical Council for Financial Responsibility. | ||
| ultimate1 (ultimate1) Intermediate Member Username: ultimate1 Post Number: 434 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.175.179.251 |
Look at this! Twenty years ago.... Have you ever heard the history of Thompsons deceitful beginnings?...... Knowing the beginnings will shed light on why things are even worse today. Lets go back to the beginning.... Before the "House of(robb not Jesus') Glory". There was a church named Faith Center in the early 1980,s in Park Ridge that paid for and sponsored a few Bible studies in the Chicagoland area... The Bible study in the south suburbs was promoted, built up, paid for, and attended by the Pastor and Faith Center church members and by the assistant pastor, another person from the Faith Center Church. Robb (the ups driver) and Linda Thompson were just one of the many people attending Faith Center. Thompson muscled his way in with all the deceitfulness and lies claiming loyalty and submission to the chruch and Pastor of Faith Center to help out and eventually help teach the study above the bank in Orland Park on LaGrange Road. Thompson a short while later in a coup attempt started bad rapping the Pastor there to the people attending the study. (HE still tells his lies and one sided tainted stories from the stage about the church he used to attend.) He had a plan all the time of subverting this group and breaking away from the church. Faith Center church unknowing that thompson was scheming and lieing, was still promoting the study and encouraging members to attend that at that time had over fifty members in that area attending the weekly study in Orland. Over a period of time Thompson started taking up offerings weekly there and keeping them for himself. He met with a few families he hand picked to feel out his intentions and to bad rap the pastor some more. Faith Center started the south Chicagoland branch of their church, and thompson lied to the pastor to keep them paying for and promoting the study, making him believe he was all for that taking place. All the while thompson had other devious schemes in mind. That was enough for him to make his move. He called in his loyal attenders and broke away form the church, without ever even telling the church, keeping the money raised and the people that were attending. Disloyalty and deceit were his trademark beginning and foundation to build on. He has never repented from that. So Factually thompson's whole church ministry was founded upon thompson scheming, lieing, deceiving, stealing and controlling another Pastor, and its church members. Thompson lied motivated by his own ambitions, ripped off an existing healthy Bible study group for his own gain. (Thompson was never called to operate in the office of a Pastor. He liked the limelight of stage, the power and the control. Teaching gave him that platform and ego boost.) As he has stated himself half lieing that the only reason why he is in his position is because "no one else took it on." He doesn't have the desire, the gift, nor the Biblical knowledge of what a good pastor is or how to pastor. That's one of the main reasons that church's he tries to control and or start never stay or go anywhere. He reaps what he has sowed from his own deceitful beginnings. He has never exhibited any of the character traits and behavior that a true Pastor has for his people. That is mostly the reason why most of the people that go to FHC have skewed viewpoints, and few of the healthy relationships and understanding of the Bible. The view points they have are mostly thompsons since most have attended few other churhes and wouldn't know the difference. That's also part of his secretive financial dealings. For over twenty years no one has ever been given a financial statement of the offering income and how the money is spent. It's easy to keep people in bondage using the secretive tactics thompson uses such along with the strong authority, gag rules, fear and intimidation of people talking to others and asking questions etc.. There is a large Quenching and lack of teaching about the Holy Spirit at FHC. Thompson and the devil fear this since those who learn how to hear from the Holy Spirit would spiritually discern the things that are wrong and see through the deceptive smokescreen. | ||
| zaz (zaz) Intermediate Member Username: zaz Post Number: 221 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.23.160.248 |
Rodney Howard Browne arrived at FHC back in 95/96... something like that. He was there 3 or 4 times I think... for several weeks (up to 3 or 4 weeks I think) at a time, and of course, everything went up for grabs. Everybody fleshing out acting as if they couldn't control their laughter. Rolling on the ground. Being slain in the spirit for 30 - 60 minutes at a time. Completely out of control. And then Rodney babbling for about three hours and not saying much of anything. Bunch of hypnotism, mind control and suggestion going on and not much else. From that time on and for a year or two after that, Robb would have everyone "line up for prayer" on the stage and in the mall as well as in the gym, and he would spend an hour or more knocking people down. Always with his body guard close by. He loved all the attention and the control. Then he played a game with the girls in the office. He would talk about them being "filled" and they would get all hot and bothered... fanning themselves and apparently being unable to control themselves. Ultimately they would fall down and lay there for about an hour. Then Robb got to where he had a photograph of his hand with the word "FILLED" written on his hand. He could get the girls in the office all goofy by just showing them the picture!! (Of course, that's what they were supposed to do, right?) Oh Yeah... he's a real miracle worker that Robb Thompson. (Excuse me while I go puke) I wanted to leave then, but lost the battle with my family that time... it took us a few more years to get out. A lot of people who used to come and minister at FHC won't set foot inside that building again. | ||
| mvngonup (mvngonup) New member Username: mvngonup Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 67.162.92.104 |
I feel for everyone's pain here. I am still a member at FHC and have seen a different side that most don't know about. This church has done such damage to marriages and relationships. Even though I'm still a member, I have disconnected myself off from people. I'm sickened by all the divorces that have happened and the way young girls dress and think at FHC. They are nothing but whores when they walk down the aisle in church, getting guys attention. Oh but wait it gets better! When a guy asks a girl out, she won't date him b/c he's not making six figures!! I was an outcast for going to college and criticized for not going into ministery. I had certain pastors comment and criticize me for going to highschool dances. Oh and another thing, every kid on staff is messed up (except for one family that will remain unnamed). the big question is, where is Pastor Robb's son?? Gee I wonder b/c PRT is controlling and manipulative. I know people on staff and cant stand them. I've been so wounded by them. Most of them are so fake. Whatever happened to the law of love, forgiveness, etc and why do we need all this money?? I'm amazed of how majority of members at FHC are building their treasures on earth and not in heaven. I would love for anyone to challenge on this info, especially those of you who think FHC is the ONLY great church out there. I know more things than I want to know, and I'm ashamed to say that I go there. I'm looking forward to my promotion cuz I'm moving on up! | ||
| newbie (newbie) New member Username: newbie Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2005 Posted From: 68.74.73.127 |
I am asking all who have left FHC to give me some help in confronting a member at FHC who does not speak with family or friends anymore. I want them to see what kind of place it really is. What would be a good intervention method? Thank you in advance and God bless. | ||
| zaz (zaz) Intermediate Member Username: zaz Post Number: 240 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.72.171.241 |
Hi Newbie, This is a tough call. We've tried to talk to those who remain under the spell of Robb Thompson, and never had any luck. Due to the cult-like techniques used there, the dependence followers feel regarding Thompson and sidekick Doug Butcher is overwhelming. Until the Holy Spirit begins a work inside their heart and inside their head, I think it's kind of a waste of time... sad to say. It would be interesting to know just how many people are out there just like you... who have lost family members to this False Teacher Robb Thompson. Do you have family members who have disowned your entire family due to "encouragement" by False Teacher Robb Thompson? Are there testimonies out there? Has anyone had any success in removing family members from this cult known as FAMILY HARVEST CHURCH? | ||
| myrrhspace (myrrhspace) New member Username: myrrhspace Post Number: 18 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 4.159.229.10 |
Zaz, My husband and I lost family to FHC. My husband's sister, her husband, and children attend there and since they've been going, they have stopped visiting and calling. They would no longer allow their kids to spend the night at our house with our kids because they were concerned about "satanic" influences: I guess my home is spiritually unclean. The thing is, we would've been happy for them if we saw that their church involvement helped them develop spiritual maturity; but it hasn't. They have become judgemental, argumentative, and close-minded. Of course, we also tend to stay away from them, too. Seems like when we ARE together, all they want to talk about is "church" stuff. I agree, zaz, that it is a waste of time to attempt to get someone to leave a church. Not only is it futile when there is so much group-think involved, but also because they do have the right, as adults, to believe what they want. It is frustrating, though. We really miss the person my sis-in-law used to be. She used to be so much more relaxed, spontaneous (now she seems to have to filter her every thought and word) and REAL. Sometimes, we'll get a glimpse of her and I will think to myself, "the real MaryKay is still inside there, somewhere." When they first got involved, we expressed our concern and have left it at that. They assured us that FH was not a cult. We remained skeptical, but promised to always love them. Now, we just accept things as they are. There's not much else we can do... | ||
| cheryl_powell (cheryl_powell) Intermediate Member Username: cheryl_powell Post Number: 140 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.9 |
Dear Newbie, Zaz and Myrrhspace gave some frightening, but factual information. We all have firsthand experience as to how FAR the brainwashing goes over there. Ron and Cindy Proskey ALMOST left right after me. God had been opening up Ron's eyes for YEARS. He was ready. Cindy was still "starstruck" (and still is last I heard). This saddens me, because I still love her and am grieved about their divorce and their torn apart family. For years, they had one of the best marriages and strongest family units I ever knew of. When Ron wanted to leave, Robb decided it was "divorce" time for Cindy. They can try and cover it up all they want, but I KNOW the truth, because I knew the Proskey's well. Well, after Robb destroyed the Leary's marriage, he felt it was time to "fix" up Cindy with his buddy (who gives BIG MONEY into FHC) for security purposes....this way there was NO chance she'd go back to Ron and leave the church. Man, can you imagine being Robb (& "associates") the day they stand before the judgement seat of Christ??? God has always been very serious about COVENANTS. Including the "covenant of marriage" and the joy of a family unit filled with His Spirit and His love. "What God has UNITED let NO MAN SEPARATE." Ooooooh, boy, Robbie and Dougie are in a little boat with a big hole in it. My suggestion to you, Newbie is this; fast and pray for your family. Seek the mercy seat of Jesus as if your very life depended upon it, for their very lives do. They NEED you. Allow The Holy Spirit to deposit His unconditional love, mercy and compassion into your heart. This allows you to pray according to His will. See them as innocents imprisoned. Because that is exactly what they are. Their minds have been blinded and poisoned by the enemy. As you release your faith coupled by love and compassion, you can pray heaven down around them. I am convinced that your family WILL be released. Believe these words as I truly believe that they are "inspired by The Holy Spirit." When they see your love and humility they will become convicted. When they are released, they will feel free (and not condemned) to come to you for love and counsel so they may receive their healing. Please keep us posted. My prayers are with you, as I'm sure the rest of us as well. | ||
| ultimate1 (ultimate1) Intermediate Member Username: ultimate1 Post Number: 443 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.175.37.91 |
Look at this! Twenty years ago.... Have you ever heard the history of Thompsons and Family Harvest Church's deceitful beginnings?...... Knowing the beginnings will shed light on why things are even worse today. Lets go back to the beginning.... Before the church was around and called "House of(Robb not Jesus') Glory". There was a church named Faith Center in the early 1980,s in Park Ridge that paid for and sponsored a few Bible studies in the Chicagoland area... Thompson and his wife Linda started attending there. Prior to attending there Thompson would show up at different peoples meetings and Bible studies and try to muscle in on the meeting and many times try to get the attention and limelight. The Bible study in the south suburbs was promoted, built up, paid for, and attended by the Pastor and Faith Center church members and by the assistant pastor, another person from the Faith Center Church. An assistant Pastor started and ran it along with a few other studies around the Chicago area. Robb (the ups driver) and Linda Thompson were just one of the many people attending Faith Center. Thompson muscled his way in with all the deceitfulness and lies claiming loyalty and submission to the chruch and Pastor of Faith Center to help out and eventually help teach the study above the bank in Orland Park on LaGrange Road. Thompson a short while later in a coup attempt started bad rapping the Pastor there to the people attending the study. (HE still tells his lies and one sided tainted stories from the stage about the church he used to attend and how this one started.) He had a plan all the time of subverting this group and breaking away from the church. Faith Center church unknowing that thompson was scheming and lieing, was still promoting the study and encouraging members to attend that at that time had over fifty members in that area attending the weekly study in Orland. Over a period of time Thompson started taking up offerings weekly there and keeping them for himself. He met with a few families he hand picked to feel out his intentions and to bad rap the pastor some more. Faith Center started the south Chicagoland branch of their church, and thompson lied to the pastor to keep them paying for and promoting the study, making him believe he was all for that taking place. All the while thompson had other devious schemes in mind. That was enough for him to make his move. He called in his loyal attenders and broke away form the church, without ever even telling the church, keeping the money raised and the people that were attending. Disloyalty and deceit were his trademark beginning and foundation to build on. He has never repented from that. So Factually thompson's whole church ministry was founded upon thompson scheming, lieing, deceiving, stealing and controlling another Pastor, and its church members. Thompson lied motivated by his own ambitions, ripped off an existing healthy Bible study group for his own gain. Take note: (Thompson was never called to operate in the office of a Pastor. He liked the limelight of stage, the power and the control. Teaching attempts gave him that platform and ego boost.) As he has stated himself half lieing that the only reason why he is in his position is because "no one else took it on." He doesn't have the desire, the gift, nor the Biblical knowledge of what a good pastor is or how to pastor. That's one of the main reasons that church's he tries to control and/or start never stay around or go anywhere. He reaps what he has sowed from his own deceitful beginnings. After ripping off the Bible study from Faith Center and Ed Roames Thompson called the first church the "House of Glory". From there telltale signs of Robb's abusive management, and terribly poor stewardship started to rise up. From fleets of expensive cars Vettes, BMW sportscars, Porches(his speeding tickets car) Mercedes, Lexus, to $30,000 Rolex watches and $20,000 jewelry and clothing shopping sprees, and the list went on and on. Thompson chose ownership over stewardship. He has never exhibited any of the character traits and behavior that a true Pastor has for his people. He never spent time with hurting people. He showed preference and special treatment for people with money. That is mostly the reason why most of the people that go to FHC have skewed viewpoints, and vewry few of the healthy relationships and understanding of the Bible. The view points they have are mostly thompsons since most have attended few other churhes and wouldn't know the difference. That's also part of his secretive financial dealings. For over twenty years no one has ever been given a financial statement of the offering income and how the money is spent. Whenever any member presses the issue they get the runaround and canned message. It's easy to keep people in bondage using the secretive tactics thompson uses such along with the strong authority, gag rules, fear and intimidation of people talking to others and asking questions etc.. There is a large Quenching and lack of teaching about the Holy Spirit at FHC. Thompson and the devil fear this since those who learn how to hear from the Holy Spirit would spiritually discern the things that are wrong and see through the deceptive smokescreen. Thompson stressed status, money and vanity of looks over the virtues of God and the Bible. So many of the staff are totally into how they look, how big their house is, how big their bank account is, and how much designer clothes they can wear(and to mention the immodesty flaunting boob jobs that six staff members including Linda and one of staffs teenage daughter went and got). The status of man not God runs rampant among the church and has many a member in a lust for the same. | ||
| saddened (saddened) Member Username: saddened Post Number: 56 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.73.175.164 |
Have you ever heard the history of Thompsons and Family Harvest Church's deceitful beginnings?...... You mean your version of the history? There are always two sides to every story and this is only your take. What I question from your post is how do you know so many things, so many intricate details about the history of FHC? Were you there from the beginning or for "all those years" or did you have spys that worked for you that reported this back to you? If you were there, and you knew all this, why did you stay for so long? Why did you continue to be affiliated with this church for so long if you felt something was wrong. | ||
| saddened (saddened) Member Username: saddened Post Number: 57 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.73.175.164 |
Cheryl, it's amazing how you can gossip (idle chat) in one paragraph (about someones marriage and divorce, etc, while naming names on the internet!!!) and then in the next, say you "truly believe that they" [your words] "are inspired by The Holy Spirit." Ah, but I can forgive you, how about those who you are talking about? Do you really believe that it's ok to talk about something negative about others and then attribute your own words to the Holy Spirit. Please think about that. The Holy Spirit would never tell the world about other's troubles (divorce)on an internet bulletin board. The Holy Spirit is sweet and speaks in a still small voice that edifies and doesn't tear people down. Thanks to you, I, and possibly hundreds of others have learned the names of two couples that got divorced that I would never have known about. Do these two couples know you are talking about their divorces on this board, by name? Have you told them this? (Message edited by saddened on June 19, 2005) | ||
| infoman (infoman) Intermediate Member Username: infoman Post Number: 361 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.175.37.91 |
Saddened, The Apostle Paul REBUKED PETER PUBLICALLY(A MAJOR APOSTLE And DIRECT DISCIPLE OF JESUS). Their are countless other incidents where Jesus, Paul, Peter and others rebuked and NAMED names of Christians who were in error. So don't give me what the Holy Spirit would or would not do. You have no scriptural basis just your rantings and OPINIONS. You know very little Bible except for the few things Thompson keeps you focused on. You have a distorted view. Error comes from a one truth being focused on EXCLUSIVELY without the light of the whole truth. Thompson uses some truths but not the whole truth. Everthing posted on this site is common knowledge AND EASILY OBTAINED BY ALL THOSE THAT EXPERIENCED THE HURTFUL EIVLS OF THOMPSON. You are BLIND to all these things that have and continue to go on because you follow a blind Guide called Thompson..... and "when the blind follow the blind you both fall into a pit" The world is just looking for a way to steal your money and time. The IMPORTANT things of God are not the things of this world. The world will manufature GOLDEN calf's to sell to you and Diamond studded Cherolet's if people will buy them. A diamond is a piece of glass that there is an overabundance of already mined and HIGHLY CONTROLLED commodity like GOLD to keep the price up. A Rolex is not a better running watch. AROLEX depreciates so fast you can buy a hardly used one for dimes on the dollar.(What bad stewwrdship) Just like A Mercedes, BMW, and other highly overpriced luxury cars that do not run better than a Toyota or Honda. It just cost more.(LOOK at consumer auto testing records and reports). Most millionaires drive Fords and cars costing less than $25,000.(PROVEN in the studies and qouted in the best selling book "The Millionaire Next Door). Thompson has no taste but low life taste. He has no culture or education. The world chews him up and spits him out. He has to spend huge sums to keep their favor. What he buys and considers HIGHLY THOUGHT of is what the world and advertising has DUPED him into believing. God and His word will show what is of TRUE VAlUE and what is BOTH in Good Taste and good Stewardship LUKE 16:15 And he(JESUS) said to them, You are they who justify themselves before men, but God knows your hearts; for what is highly thought or among men is an abomination before God. Matthew 6:19-21 Do not gather and heap up and store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust and worm consume and destroy, and where thieves break through and steal. 20But gather and heap up and store for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust nor worm consume and destroy, and where thieves do not break through and steal; 21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. God wants your heart in him. | ||
| saddened (saddened) Member Username: saddened Post Number: 74 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.73.175.164 |
No one could possibly know what happened in these people's own personal lives BUT THEM and God. | ||
| infoman (infoman) Intermediate Member Username: infoman Post Number: 369 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.175.37.91 |
Saddened, HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE AND STILL BREATHE??? With a statement you make like that? Husbands, Wives, Sons, Daughters, Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, Best Friends, Business Partners, Employees, and even aquaintances know EXACTLY what happened. WE lived it stupid. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE DEAF, MUTE, AND BLIND NOT TO KNOW WHAT GOES ON AND WHAT WENT ON? Which are you? ALL THREE. Saddened, Are you still harrassing people, putting out your lies trying to stir up strife at the church or just here? (Message edited by infoman on June 22, 2005) | ||
| saddened (saddened) Member Username: saddened Post Number: 77 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.73.175.164 |
I never called anyone here "stupid". | ||
| infoman (infoman) Intermediate Member Username: infoman Post Number: 375 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.175.37.91 |
Here's Andrew Wommack's comments about the foolish ones in the body of Christ who were all caught up in the FEAR of the Y2K myth. He actually mentions a pastor in the Chicago area that was telling his congregation out FEAR to stockpile food, buy Gold, gneerators, y2k kits...etc...etc. Hmmmm. I wonder who that could be. haha AKA ROBB (FEAR SPREADER) THOMPSON (So he could collect the money and look like a prophet or A man in the know.) He was a really a FALSE PROPHET man that needed to GO. Someone else mentioned this on another thread. I don't remember who it was but that's why I went looking for it on Andrew's site and thought I'd post the link to it. Thanks for mentioning it whoever you are. Here's the Link below. http://awmi.dreamhost.com/video/2005/03mar/mar29web.ram You can fast forward to 22:10 into the program if you'd like to get right to it. | ||
| saddened (saddened) Member Username: saddened Post Number: 89 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 66.73.175.164 |
You answer with cut and paste? Did Andrew Wommack mention Robb Thompson by name? It seems you are trying to indict him for gossiping about someone by name. I listened to the clip and I DID NOT hear the words "Robb Thompson". Andrew did not mention any name at all did he? In fact he said whoever it was, was a friend. Maybe you missed that part? | ||
| infoman (infoman) Intermediate Member Username: infoman Post Number: 382 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.175.37.91 |
"I am not your enemy because I tell you the truth." ANDREW WOMMACK taught at FHC MANY MANY times. He is loved at FHC but Robb pulled stunts on many friends of Andrews and Thompson has problems galore. Thompson is the only Pastor pushing y2k kits in the Chicagoland area that Andrew Wommack knows. Wommack still has many concerns about Thompson but considered Thompson a friend. I personally talked to Andrew and that is WHO HE SAID HE MEANT. You aren't just hardly breathing but blind and blinder your arguments even more pathetic. | ||
| zaz (zaz) Intermediate Member Username: zaz Post Number: 309 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.72.106.169 |
Phoney. Ongoing phoniness. Abuse of Church funds. Counseling couples to divorce. Makes fun of women, the handicapped, the wheel chair bound, fat people, and his wife from the pulpit. Bad news... just like the sidekick, doug boettcher. Pays for boob jobs for all insider-type women in the church that want them. Most all pastors wives have had their breasts enhanced. Saw pastor's 50 year old wife the other day out in public flaunting her new breasts like she was a 21 year old hooker... tight red top, tight shorts... the whole enchilada. Sick. Really Sick. | ||
| cybermom (cybermom) Intermediate Member Username: cybermom Post Number: 259 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.186.102.112 |
So true, zaz. Sick and very sad. I love the church we attend now - the women are NORMAL. No boob jobs, face lifts, revealing clothing. In fact, some of us DO look our ages, and that's OK with us. We're just doing our best to bless those around us through service, ministry, anyway the Lord leads, not through plastic surgery and extravagant wardrobes. It's too bad that during all the time they've been saved, the women of FHC in leadership haven't realized that true beauty comes from a Godly life (fear of the Lord) and the fruit of the spirit. Pro 31:30 Charm can mislead and beauty soon fades. The woman to be admired and praised is the woman who lives in the Fear-of-GOD. Cybermom | ||
| in_god_alone_we_trust (in_god_alone_we_trust) New member Username: in_god_alone_we_trust Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 69.222.113.146 |
Amen Cybermom I mean really, must I have silicone breasts, straightened whitened teeth, hardbody trying to look like I am 19 when clearly I am not. Is this the Extreme Makeover show in christiandom? Not to mention all the women with eating disorders because of the pressure that is put on them to be "perfect" like the pastoral staff wives and girls. How very sad.I wonder do they feel more accepted after the makeovers? Or do you now have to get yourself in over your head in debt to purchase designer clothing and a new car?? How about the ment with the growth hormone injections to achieve youth, oh and lets not forget the typical "pastor look" of dyed hair. gag me.......... | ||
| no_churchianity (no_churchianity) New member Username: no_churchianity Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 66.155.188.86 |
Hello all. :-) I was there from before the beginning. I was supportive and helpful when Ed Roames began the Faith Center, and I remember when "Robby" and Linda first appeared there, too. It is true that Rob "stole" his satellite church in a deliberate and deceitful way from Ed, but it's also true that Ed had serious problems of his own. I am curious to know what Rob has said about his former pastor, Ed Roames, to see if it's accurate or exaggerated. Ed has since left the ministry and is currently a salesman, which he has a real talent for. Please let me know, if you know. Having read all of these posted messages, I suspect that you are not maliciously gossiping, but only sincerely attempting to warn others of the truth that you personally know. This is certainly Scriptural and very necessary. Naming names is necessary to make your claims credible, and the Bible gives us numerous examples of that. I don't think any of us would accuse God of gossiping. Without naming names, places, or dates, your information would be too vague to be believed. Personally, I am more convinced of your accuracy and honesty by the details you've provided. It is also true that things done in public need not be kept secret. Covering up the sins and errors of others is a form of promoting them ourselves. I am also "saddened" by the details of both churches, and I still pray for Ed and Rob. However, it would be wrong to keep silent when my brothers and sisters in Christ are being deceived and led away from the Truth in the Bible. If any one can be rescued, it is worth discussing. God bless all of you! | ||
| infoman New member Username: infoman Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 71.194.182.119 |
Thanks for the link enlightenmemt man. This link shows Thompson's $3 million dollar house and his unbelievably BAD stewardship and Bad Taste. Whoever posted this up on the net, while a little crude, must have people on the inside of his cult to get the photos. http://www2.uic.edu/~kpurin1/robb |
