| Author | Message | ||
     Anonymous |
my sisters brother in law is the leader of a UPC in Manitowoc, WI. Now that her husband is so brainwashed, they're getiing divorced. Isn't there someplace you can report strange religious practices to? I've had the misfourtune of sitting through a UPC wedding ceremony, and I know first hand that these folks are wacked. Where do u go for help??? | ||
| Troy |
Try talking to someone in a legal agency, or someone in your local city's Human Relations Commition. It would be a good Idea if your sister wrote a story and published it on the occurances and misbehaviour. (remind her we have freedom of speech) in this country. No abuse mental or physical should go unpunished. She can help open the eyes to many whom are and have been brainwashed. | ||
| formercalvarymember |
I attended a Baptist Cult in Butler, Pa. for 13 yrs. from age 5 to 18. I was brainwashed into believing that if I left, I would die of cancer. I am 27 now and I have finally decided to try to press charges, mostly because I have proof now that this Church is indeed a cult. I know someone that has videos of the Preacher picking up prostitutes, going to bars and porn shops. This has been going on for 20 yrs.I am going to start by speaking with the towns D.A. I would like to remain anonymous until it goes to court, if I can. This cult leader is very dangerous, he has semi- automatic weapons,a nd body guards, and I know he would come after me. It's weird that you say Wisconsin because, that is where my old cult leader first started his cults. Madison , Wisconsin is where he originated and was thrown into prison on child abuse charges. His name is Wayne Dillabaugh. Anyways, my advice...would be to talk with the D.A. tell them theres a cult in their town. You must have proof though. Good luck ! | ||
| Hercule |
Test | ||
| Ta bby |
UPC is not a cult! It is just a church that has beliefs just like all other churches. | ||
| Anonymous |
UPC is the biggest cult in the sothern united states. They tell you what to think, what to wear and who to marry. In some local churches, you have to have permission to go on vacation or buy a vehicle or risk public punishment, shamming and slandering. God does not take away our power to chose and any group that uses these tactics is a cult. Take heart. They are not trying to be a cult and their cultish behavior is not done on purpose. They are simply doing what the leaders that have came before them did. Most are God fearing and all that want is a better world for us all. The methods they use , though, are wrong. They have passion for what they believe. Passion is a good thing. I just wish they would quit beating people down with their own persoanl convictions. | ||
| Ash (63.72.155.122) |
This is stretching it a bit far and I'm very much insulted that someone would go as far as accusing the UPC as a cult! Yes, some Pentecostal congregations have standards by which they live which is not necessarily bad but those are the ones that I would say, haven't progressed and haven't really studied the Bible. I'm Pentecostal and have a bobbed hair-cut...ooooo! Does that make me evil? No. Does my church shun me? No. All Christian churches have their way of worshipping the Lord though others are more opened to the Truth. That's a big can of worms to open there and I don't think that it's anyones place to make such remarks like that. There are some churches out there that have issues needing to be resolved though to say the least. | ||
| Anonymous (207.69.63.89) |
I have went to a UPC since I was 9 years old and I'm 48 now. I think that people who are calling UPC a cult just don't understand what they are saying. UPC is definally not a cult. People hear things and think things they know nothing about. I would like to tell you my experiece. The first time I went to a pentecostal church with my parents at 9 years old, I didn't understand what was going on. I saw people with their hands raised in worship and crying and I thought they were nuts. But even at that tender young age, I felt something special there. We beginning attending regular and my parents were saved in the church. At the age of 12 we were having a revival and I really begin to feel the Lord dealing with me to go the alter and so I did. It was the most wonderful experience I have ever had in my life. I don't think I could really tell you exactly the elated feeling I had. I ask Jesus to forgive me of my sins and I had the most wonderful clean feeling inside. Waves of joy washed over me. The next service I was bapitized in Jesus name and the feeling I received then was more wonderful than the last. About 2 weeks later as I was praying in the alter I was asking God to fill me with the Holy Ghost and I begin to praise him aloud and suddenly I begin to feel the most elated, wonderful, feeling I had ever had, and I begin to utter words I had never spoke before. Now, I'm not a crazy, insane person. But I tell you the Pentecostal experience is so real...because I have received it. Yes, the Pentecostal Church does have standard in their dress. No one is threating you and treating like you are in a cult. That is ridiculus. There is a special blessing by obeying the standards. You really can never give up to much for God. Someone wrote, you have to ask to go on vacation. That is the sillest thing I've ever heard. Maybe where that come from was...I guess everyone in the church is so close, like a big family and I guess if you are going to be gone from church for a week or 2 it would be considerate to tell you pastor where you are, because he might wonder if something in your family is wrong, because he cares for you. Like if you were going on vacation, would you not let some of your family members know. It's no big deal. If you didn't want to say anything about it I'm sure nothing will come of it. How silly! There are women in my church with long hair and short hair. Some wear jewerly and makeup, some don't. Everyone is welcome and loved. I just wished everyone could really know what a wonderful thing it is to know the Lord. Pentecostal is real. Taste and see that the Lord is good! | ||
| eternal light (24.222.26.58) |
I find it funny that whenever a church teaches to be seperate and holy unto our God that it all of a sudden gets stamped with the label "cult". What a tactic that is by the devil to try and blind the world. Ever since that Jim Jones fellow everyone has been calling everyone else a cult out of fear. I belong to the UPC, a very bible believing church who is repeatedly being unfairly called cultic. Why? Cause our women give their all to Jesus by growing their hair long for him? or by not wearing which pertaineth unto a MAN (ie pants) God has called us out of the world, to be seperate and Holy unto him. we are not to be conformed to the world but transformed by the spirit of God. if you play on a sports team, and get traded...would you still wear the same jersey? I think not, for you would be mistaken for the other team. I beg of you all read the Holy word. the Greek if you can read it. avoid the "easy read" bibles for they leave out so much that is vital to our salvation. No Salvation is not by works, but faith without works is dead. To be saved we must obey the gospel of Jesus. I believe we all agree on that. That Jesus Died was buried and rose again. but what people seem to forget is that after he rose. he was seen of the people for 40 days preaching. so we MUST be seen as Holy unto Christ. for we have died to our old man of sin, we were buried with Christ in Baptism. (in Jesus name otherwise wed be buried with the Father Son and Holy Ghost, and I dont think that the father nor the Holy Ghost died eh?) and we were resurected by the power of Gods Spirit infilling us with his Holy Ghost. AMEN he is Risen and so our we if we obey his gospel. Please dont be fooled by passive preachers only rocking you to sleep only to be surprised upon meeting the Lord. Read your Word of God. Understand that in Dueteronomy 6:4 "Hear O' Israel, the LORD your God, is ONE LORD!" He wasnt kidding. Worship of teh Trinity is unbiblical and dangerous. Peace be with you in the name of Jesus Dont wait Acts 2:38 | ||
| Anonymous (68.216.129.168) |
I too am United Pentecostal..I will tell it from the female prospective. Whomever said you have to get permission top take a vacation is very misinformed. Thats silly. No one is holding a gun to my head to dress the way I do or to not trim my hair. Its all left up to me. I dont do it because a man says not too. I do it because Its all about Pleasing Jesus. I do it because the LOVE of God constrains me!! | ||
| Anonymous (69.242.21.100) |
UPC is not doctrinally sound . | ||
| heartfelt (heartfelt) New member Username: heartfelt Post Number: 4 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 64.12.117.12 |
It Is True The Lord Is Coming Back After A Holy And Separated People.I Have Heard People Say He Looks Only On The Heart, But Being A Christain I Know If The Heart Is Clean Before God It Will Also Manifest On The Outward Appearance Also.As Some Denominations Have Totally Went Off Into Left Field In all They Teach And Preach Is A Dress Code,And I Do Believe In Modest Apparel, I Think There Is So much More That We Should Be Showing The World, Namely LOVE.I Know That The Lord Taught Me How To Dress, How To Conduct Myself , Hell Teach Those Who Have A Relationship With Him.Dress Modest, Read, Pray and Build A Daily Relationship With Him.Be A Light To This Lost And Dying World.Dont Put All Of Your Faith In a Orginaztion Nor Denomination. Put Your Faith And Trust In Jesus. He Is A God Who Cannot Fail! The Only True And Living God! Praise His Holy Name! | ||
| jason_stone (jason_stone) New member Username: jason_stone Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 205.188.117.12 |
Pentecostals are defineltey not a cult. They go by the bibles standard of dress and behavior. I have nothing but love for pentecostals. I myself fall under that category as a Sign Follower. I don't belong to any orginization though. To me it tends to get to much fleshly ideas. | ||
| ronnie (ronnie) New member Username: ronnie Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.203 |
Genesis 1:26- 27; 11:5-9 - Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.; But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower that the men were building. The LORD said, "If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other." So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel --because there the LORD confused the language of the whole world. From there the LORD scattered them over the face of the whole earth. Who is "us?" | ||
| ronnie (ronnie) New member Username: ronnie Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.203 |
II Cor 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, [be] with you all. Amen. Why the distinction when they're all the same? | ||
| ronnie (ronnie) New member Username: ronnie Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.203 |
John 8:16-18 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. Why did Christ compare himself and the Father with "two men?" Could this mean that they're one, yet two? | ||
| ronnie (ronnie) New member Username: ronnie Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.203 |
John 3:35; 17:23-26 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare [it]: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. Well, it seems Christ talked to Himself all the time and loved Himself a whole lot. Or could it be they're both seperate, but one in the same (kind of like an egg)? | ||
| ronnie (ronnie) New member Username: ronnie Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.203 |
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Mat 17:5 (at the transfiguration) While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. I didn't see Jesus' lips moving during the "...my beloved son" either time, did you? | ||
| ronnie (ronnie) New member Username: ronnie Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.203 |
Mar 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Acts 10:48 (Peter speaking) And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: A tough question for those opposing UPC...Why is God the only one talking about baptising in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost? | ||
| inkorrekt (inkorrekt) Junior Member Username: inkorrekt Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 198.243.2.253 |
Write to Christian Research Institute (www.equip.org) and Focus on the family (www.family.org) Then there is Sandra Tanner in salt lake city. She has come out of Mormonism. She will be of great help to you. Or consult alawyer. A good one. There is one in Denver His name is Joe Sterniolo. You can check the yellow pages. | ||
| arron (arron) Advanced Member Username: arron Post Number: 575 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 66.169.8.34 |
because GOD said it and that is enough for me.. if peter and the other deciples were bapitising in any other name other that FATHERR SON AND HOLY GHOST THEY WERE NOT... NOT ... FULFILLING THE GREAT COMMANDMENT | ||
| acts238 (acts238) Junior Member Username: acts238 Post Number: 33 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 68.51.131.132 |
I did not think anyone was baptized in the titles FAther, Son and Holy Ghost...I thought they were baptized unto repentence....if you look through the bible...people are baptized in the name of Jesus...sorry to beat a dead horse and all but name is still singular...so if we are to baptize in the name of the father and the son and the holy ghost...what is the Name???? Also when Jesus gave Peter the Keys...note he gave him Keys....so I am pretty sure the grammer is correct with Name being singluar. I have read your posts and you know when you are describing the FAther, Son and Holy Ghost being one you kind of sound oneness yourself. I think I have more love for God knowing he put on that rob of flesh, came to this earth, walked a perfect life and died for you and me. I know you may not agree but I had my revealtion reading 1 Timothy 3:16...it states in the scripture God was menfested in the flesh...which means he was all God and All Man....God is a spirit.....we can not see a spirit....so he had to create a body. YOu are a blessing! I pray many blessings to you. Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving! | ||
| turtle (turtle) Intermediate Member Username: turtle Post Number: 419 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 151.199.115.125 |
Hello acts did you have a good thanksgiving. Long time since we seen you on the board. | ||
| acts238 (acts238) Junior Member Username: acts238 Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 68.51.131.132 |
Hello Turtle! I am swamped with things...all is good though! I feel blessed to be as busy as I am...I had a wonderful Thanksgiving...We had a dinner a Church for all the people who are with out family or loved ones...it was very nice...How about you? Are you ready for the Christmas season? I am preparing for it...so much to do with so little time. I hope to be on more when things calm down...Take care and Blessings to you!!!! Acts | ||
| arron (arron) Advanced Member Username: arron Post Number: 662 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 66.169.8.34 |
hey turtle ... you and i are famous according to not | ||
| arron (arron) Advanced Member Username: arron Post Number: 906 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 66.169.8.34 |
thank GOD you are back on the internet not. i have missed you. we are praying for you. i enjoyed talking with your son. he is a very pleasant man | ||
| arron (arron) Advanced Member Username: arron Post Number: 977 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.32.209 |
no never my friend.. i will never give up | ||
| arron (arron) Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 1003 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.32.209 |
oh but you are my friend i am not old enough to be your father but if i was i would still tell you THE WORD OF GOD | ||
| watchman_ct New member Username: watchman_ct Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 68.109.67.117 |
No Question...the UPC is most certainly a Cult. Live by the Law...die by the law... See Rev. Eleanor Kalinsky... Full Gospel Church in Manchester, CT Another UPC - type cult church. | ||
| dobman53 Intermediate Member Username: dobman53 Post Number: 243 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 71.142.224.26 |
I would like to print a dictionary on the gifts of tongues. Some can speak in tongues, yet they can't interprate. I think it would be a most wonderful tool for all to have. If people were to join with me, and tape record themselves when they were given the utterance, and then follow that by tape recording the interpatation. why in no time we could have a complete dictionary. Should we then care to follow through with this, why we could then all drop our own language, and from then on we could all speak in Gods own pure tongue. peace be with you AMEN |
