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     geewizsquirty (geewizsquirty) New member Username: geewizsquirty Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2005 Posted From: 65.27.228.251 |
I've read a little about Jz Knight as a child. She had an alcoholic abusive father, and she was dirt poor supposedly. Do you think she was abused by her father? Do you think this and other childhood traumas is what has caused her to seek power over other people with her cult? I would like to know more about her early childhood, to see if there is a link between what happened to her at a young age and what she is doing with her life now. Is there any interviews of what her parents think of her and Ramtha, and what her 2 boys think of it? I think her parents and family is what skeptics need to focus on most of all, as they can give insight on how and who they really are. (Message edited by GeeWizSquirty on February 13, 2005) (Message edited by GeeWizSquirty on February 13, 2005) | ||
| louis (louis) New member Username: louis Post Number: 14 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 212.68.237.60 |
dear geewizsquirty, Me too, I would like to know more about your childhood, because you seem to even don't know who is J.Z. knight and what she does or say ! Did she already seek power over you, did she agress you verbaly or sexually !? Of course not, but you certainly regret it ... perhaps because you were probably abuse by your sweety mother when you was too young to understand. So If somedays you give an interview on your crazy childhoodness and family, don't forget that some of your friends on this board are very interested to know much about your crazy life ... Well it seems that you just need a good psychanalist and some more good education, or better a goog priest ... but of course we understand how you were educated, so we'll excuse you ! | ||
| david_mccarthy (david_mccarthy) New member Username: david_mccarthy Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 12.178.98.93 |
Hello Geewiz.. JZ has spoken about her childhood, of being sexually abused by a family member, She also suffered a Southern Baptist “fire and brimstone” fundamentalist Christian upbringing. I personally feel that there is a direct connection with her creating the Ramtha cult and her traumatic childhood. Her childhood dream was to become an actor. As for her family they seem to keep their distance, or are kept at a distance! From RSE and its students, except for one of her sons who runs the concession machines at RSE. Another point of interest; JZ Knight has also spoken about having a photographic memory. David McCarthy Yelm (Message edited by David McCarthy on April 10, 2005) | ||
| louis (louis) New member Username: louis Post Number: 18 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 212.68.237.60 |
Hello guys, To express myself more seriously, I would say that : To have been abused doesn't generally bring more habilities to a person ! Most girls or men who have been abused generally don't succeed in life or they present less habilities than most of the common people ! So I really don't see what some of us want to prove here. To me, if all these allegations had a sense in this particular case of J.Z. Knight, it should just prove probably the contrary of the thought here above mentioned. To have some special habilities (except perhaps in sexual matters) and a strong personality doesn't mean that you have been abused ... often isn't it the contrary : In Europe it is often the case !!! But perhaps that in the USA. with all the drugs circulating in the streets,does it become the contrary in the minds of some very special cowboys or occasional psychiatrist !!! So here is another sensible point of view, guys !! A european one, once more ! friendly, louis | ||
| louis (louis) New member Username: louis Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 212.68.237.60 |
Dear shining, Not at all, I really don't need to defend my life choices, because my life choices are not in danger. I just know by experience, a ten years experience, that many people who attend ramtha teachings are very happy of their experiences with these teachings and the interesting results they got in their life with these studies. Here, on this board, I heard some very few people who became full of resentment with their experience with ramtha teachings. So first of all, I try to understand your negative points of view on that matter, knowing already the positive points of view of hundreds or thousands of people on this same matter (these teachings). I hear your arguments to evaluate them better, their nature, their content,their purpose and objectives ! And I express myself to get your answers, so that I can better evaluate yours. But really Your negative points of view seem so marked by sadness, resentment and angryness ... They seem so far from the joy and happiness that caracterized most of the ramtha students that I know !!! Perhaps is it just a question of generation, or on an other hand, a question of well minded spirit or good understanding or better a question of kind of character. JZ. knight is a girl, of course and she works better than many boys, perhaps is it also or specially a question of sexism, or personal disappointment and jealousy. More I stay on this board, your reactions seem to be or mean something like that. But of course, everyone has the right to have his own points of view or his behaviours. When behaviours or characters of people are kind or pleasant, everyone can recognize it. But this is not often the case in your little group of disappointed so called "ex-students". What did so horrible happen to you with these teachings that bring you to become or act so agressively towards a kind woman like J.Z. knight. Perhaps there is also some concurrence from another "new age group or Guru" who had or has lost too many influence (and money!)and became angry against J.Z. for his successfull job !!!??? With all, what we can hear from the little disapointed group on this board, Probably is there something like that going on here !!!??? But of course, everyone has the right to defend his own interests the best way he can !!! Friendly Louis | ||
| louis (louis) New member Username: louis Post Number: 20 Registered: 3-2005 Posted From: 212.68.237.60 |
All right, all right...Shining, But if you are so happy, where you stand right now, why do you loose your time trying to discredit J.Z.knight and her shool where so many people seem so happy, whithout you ! Perhaps do you just want all of us, coming where you stand by now, paying you 100,000 dollars to tell us the great mysteries and secrets of life, as you understand them. But it would probably be a too great lost or waste of money for many people, even for our cowboys !!! don't you think so !? So you see, I was not so wrong, it's a question of "Guru concurrence" and sexism !!! But anyway, it's your choice, so you get it ! But at least, it's more clear when it is expressed like that !!! Concerning myself, I'm not trying to defend noone, nor nothing just because, I'm not in danger and also because, I have no personal interest, in this matter. But as this board talks of RSE, and as I learn ramtha teaching for ten years, I just express my point of you, whithout any personal interest !!! Just for sharing free experience ! I just give my opinion, knowing many aspects of the subject ! You see, it's also Freedom of speech, but freedom of speech is for everyone, not ony for you ! Sadly, as you say yourself, you don't know who you are, ... but, of course ... the idea that you even could be ramtha giving us a big test is very sympathetic... So I stop here this message. Have a good time, trying to know yourself better ! Friendly Louis | ||
| hoola New member Username: hoola Post Number: 14 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 70.125.85.168 |
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=600744391687316609&q=channeling I found this VIDEO on line... .she has really aged... I did not recognize her... Smiles. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 140 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
I watched this. I saw/heard at least three things that she said, that are opposite of what has been said in the past. The interviewer mentioned these things and he was Shut Off and put in his place, as she "corrected" him. Uh uh. I was there. I heard the Initial Story before it just changed. Oh, that's it. She changed timelines. What was I thinking!? Always a justification for changed behavior. Hmm...I think I will tell my mother that it always was my sibling that did the bad things. I was always innocent ! I never should have been grounded ! That's my new reality. LOL | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 141 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
I watched this. I saw/heard at least three things that she said, that are opposite of what has been said in the past. The interviewer mentioned these things and he was Shut Off and put in his place, as she "corrected" him. Uh uh. I was there. I heard the Initial Story before it just changed. Oh, that's it. She changed timelines. What was I thinking!? Always a justification for changed behavior. Hmm...I think I will tell my mother that it always was my sibling that did the bad things. I was always innocent ! I never should have been grounded ! That's my new reality. LOL | ||
| hoola Junior Member Username: hoola Post Number: 50 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 70.125.85.168 |
On that Video she said she is 59, that can not be, she was almost 10 years older then me when I started with Ramtha, she is about 8 years off. Anyone know her REAL birth day? | ||
| hoola Member Username: hoola Post Number: 51 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 70.125.85.168 |
03/16/1946 I found her birth day She is 60. | ||
| mathew_morrell New member Username: mathew_morrell Post Number: 16 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 12.73.198.66 |
Is "chaning time lines" a new teaching at RSE? I would like to hear more about this philosophy of "changing times lines". It seems as if JZ is taking her doctrine of relativism to new extremes never before seen. Changing times line? Please someone explain this philosophy. | ||
| whatchamacallit Intermediate Member Username: whatchamacallit Post Number: 155 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 71.235.182.97 |
Hi Mathew, I'll explain this further, soon. No time now. Yes, it is a new teaching in the last few years. It was initiated with the health issues JZ claimed to have had, and claimed to have healed. |
