| Author | Message | ||
     MARLENE KNOWLES |
I AM A VICTIM OR THE MORMONS IN MIAMI BEACH THEY HAVE CONTAMINATED THE POLICE TO DO THEIR CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES THEY KIDNAPPED MY CHILD AND NOW THEY HAVE THREAT ME WITH KILLING ME AND HURTING MY FAMILY PLEASE HELP | ||
| Anonymous |
Have you contacted the police? Where is your child? Are you married to a Mormon and he took the child with him? | ||
| Anonymous |
Talk to the media. | ||
| Anonymous |
Unless someone reports a real killing, the media won't respond. | ||
| Anonymous |
Any way you can try. Some journalists can help. Also contact other people through e-mail, e.g. ex mormons. | ||
| Anonymous |
Call an attorney who is definitely NOT a mormon. | ||
| peter roos (80.56.29.53) |
Because I read your problems with the mormones I write you this e-mail from the Netherlands. As a teenager I was interested in genealogy and send a question to the mormones in Salt Lake City and I did not understand their answer. My great-grand-mother died in 1855 and was baptised and married in 1963. Why wasn't I invited at that marriage by Frank Kooyman, who married her in Salt Lake City? I went to the mormon-church here in Leeuwarden and asked about their faith in Melchizedek and an outcast of the mormons, who was present for one time to tell them what was wrong in their faith, supported me and I supported him. I learned much Last year a mormon-temple was opened in Holland and strangers were allowed to visit them temple till the temple was opened by the mormon-leader. I gave a question about my great-grand-mother to a mormon-priest, asked via jurofoon the AFF for a lawyer in America and received no answer about the strange faith that living people can marry dead people, what is done by mormon-priests, placing themselves as high (or higher) than Melchizedek, the priest, who blessed Abraham in the Bible. I have read about kidnapping and threatening by the mormones, but asking for help the mormone-family in which such a child is can alarm the police that they are stalked and I don't know how that law in the U.S.A. is used. Are their specialised lawyers in the USA for that problem? I want to meet the leader (mr. Hinckly?)if it is possible. How? Peter Roos, M.D. | ||
| solopilot (solopilot) Member Username: solopilot Post Number: 65 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 216.190.204.218 |
Boy, are you people GULLIBLE. "The police kidnapped my child! The Mormons made them do it!" Trust me, we have enough to do without kidnapping people. But, of course, since she's blaming Mormons, you all buy into it. The funny thing is that the Protestants are far more likely to kidnap in the name of religion (but you call it "deprogramming"). Peter: We Mormons believe that it is necessary to be baptized, by one who has authority, to enter into the kingdom of Heaven. Thus, we spend millions of dollars each year to build and operate temples worldwide, where volunteers do these ordinances on behalf of the dead who never had this chance during their lives. This law satisfied, they then have the right to choose whether to accept or not. The marriage was between your great-grandmother and her husband during her life (who also had a proxy baptism performed). It was actually a sealing of their marriage, so that they can be together for time and for all eternity, with their children (if the ordinances were also performed for them). It was not between a living person and a dead person. I don't know if you would be able to meet President Hinckley, but if you are coming to Salt Lake City anytime soon, we can try. You can certainly attend the same Sacrament meeting that he normally attends, but he does not preside over that meeting. You weren't invited partly because one has to properly prepare to enter the Temple, but the major reason was that these ordinances are performed for hundreds (or even thousands) of people each day in each Temple when it is open. Every time I attend a Temple session, I am representing someone who has died, and so is every other man and woman in that session, with the exception of the officiator and those who assist him. With 119 temples operating worldwide, that's a lot of ordinances being performed. There would be no way to invite all of the descendants of all of the people for whom the work is being done in all of the sessions of all of the temples. In 1963, when this apparently was done for your great-grandparents, ordinances were generally done by or at the request of relatives, so you may have relatives who you don't know, who are Mormons. Those who are "outcast" of any church are usually excommunicated over morality issues, so I wouldn't put too much credibility in what they have to say about those who threw them out. Those who leave of their own accord, that's different, but I leave the outcasts of all churches to rant and rave on their own. For more information on Temples and Temple practices, see www.lds.org -- click on "Temples" on the left-side menu, then again on "Purpose" on the menu in the next page. There, you will be able to read a number of different articles on why we do this, including one from President Hinckley. That's not the same as talking to him, but you can read some of what he would tell you. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Intermediate Member Username: godchild Post Number: 247 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 64.28.61.36 |
Marlene, if what you say is true, and I hope it is not, go to your local newspaper or television station. Your state should also have an ombudsman (look under state government in phone book.) All the best to you. I don't know if there is Legal Aid in Florida, but they may be of assistance; it sounds like you need an attorney. Legal Aid does not charge the financially underpriviledged. Keep all documents, also write down times and dates of all phone calls, or any communications with police. You can also contact your Attorney General's office, also under State Government. Always ask police #1 for their name and badge number. Write it down. Stay in contact with those you trust!! All the best to you. | ||
| godchild (godchild) Intermediate Member Username: godchild Post Number: 248 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 64.28.61.36 |
Leave it to the mormon to immediately make snide remarks to someone who may have an emergency. Since this post is corporations, these are names of some corporations owned by the Mormon Church, LDS. From Mormon stock index: Deseret Books AES AFLAC AVISTA CORP. AMERICAN EXPRESS BLACK AND DECKER CADENCE DESIGN CORVIS CENTRAL PACIFIC BANK 1 800-CONTACTS CYGNUS INC. DIEBOLD DELL COMPUTER DIONEX DOWNEY SAVINGS 7 LOAN EARTHSHELL HILLENBRAND HEADWATERS, INC. HOLLEYWOOD ENTERTAINMENT (DID ANYBODY READ THE MORMON POST SAYING EVERY MORMON CHILD KNOWS NONMORMONS DRINK, SMOKE, ETC., THEY SEE IT ON TV AND IN THE MOVIES ALL THE TIME.) DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THIS AS HYPOCRISY? hOST MARRIOTT IOMEGA JP REALTY KEYCORP LAQUINTA PROPERTIES MARRIOTT INTERNATIONAL MICREL SEMICONDUCTOR MICRO GENERAL NOVELL NUSKIN PRICELINE SKY WEST AIRLINES SWIFT TRANSPORTATION I post these, and this is not all, for the benefit of the mormon who asked me "what corporations?" As if he didn't know. And if he didn't, I'm sure he will have an answer he hopes will satisfy you. According to the report which is easily confirmed there are at least 20 more corporations owned by the Mormon church. | ||
| gentile (gentile) New member Username: gentile Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 132.160.66.16 |
I hope someone may be able to help this woman if what she says is true.From what I saw of the mormons in Phoenix Arizona, they are little more than a front for organized crime in areas where they have complete political control. Don't believe it?Talk with people who've been there, done that. Got to be lot of them out there.i'M SURE i'M ONLY ONE OF MANY. | ||
| wmmw (wmmw) Intermediate Member Username: wmmw Post Number: 195 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 66.36.150.217 |
To all- I think talking about the religion of people owning companies goes nowhere. There is a lot of other religions people owning a lot of companies. Religion is one thing that should stay personal matter. You know what? I was a member of an international Club and two things we were not talking about: religion and politics. So... all people were good friends... | ||
| truerae New member Username: truerae Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.92.246.210 |
Note: All Capital letters are used for emphasis only. This is from a free thinker/truth seeker of God who is no longer part of the blindly-obedient, mormon cult. I have much information regarding the organized, justified theft of member's assets by LDS leaders through Zion's bank or fronts; multimillion $ gold mines (ours and MANY others), copper mines, etc., multimillion $ ranch in Wyoming (Cook's), businesses, etc. The Mormon Mafia (also CIA-mostly mormons) evolved from the Danite warriors are alive and well and have sabotaged cars, murdered people, tapped phones illegally for starters (Matrix program of Utah & Florida-exposed by new Govenor of Utah after Mike Leavitt left) I am a scholar of ancient writings, many have been divinely preserved, authenticated for this day of truth as the book of Judas, for example. May we all come to know the spiritual teachings of Jesus!(not historical, political interpretations of men) But first I will choose another venue since this chain has protesting, innocent, ignorant mormons patrolling here trying to do damage control... Fighting fire with fire. Their own words shall condemn them. Exposing corruption goes everywhere and benefits everyone! Recognizing problems is the first step to "cleansing the earth." This is a responsibility for everyone who either caused it or allowed it(by doing nothing or by ignorance). Most people belong in these two categories. There should be no more secrets. Seek truth and ye shall find. This is an admonition; a command from Jesus Christ who is Jehovah (only one God NOT two as the mormons believe, albeit Joseph Smith's first version of the "First Vision" (in his own handwriting)does state that he saw only ONE personage - later "First Vision" accounts were embellished. The secret blood oath taken in the LDS/mormon temples is satanic. For all mormons patrolling this discussion, please read Moses 5:29 in the Pearl of Great Price. Actually so that everyone can enjoy the words contained in LDS/mormon own sacred tomes, I will write it out for all: "And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by they throat, and if thou tell it thou shall die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not, but if they tell it they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel unto thine hands." | ||
| truerae New member Username: truerae Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.92.246.210 |
2nd part - continued - Prior to 1990 before the temple ceremony was POLITICALLY changed because people were learning of the masonic satanic bloodoath duplication, the ignorant, intimidated members would pantomine cutting their throats, cutting open their chests, and disemboweling their intestines BEFORE taking a blood oath of secrecy. GOD DOES NOT REQUIRE BLOOD OATHS. Today, as stated, the ceremony has been changed and the penalty is still the same but it is "assumed" and not acted out or talked about. The members do "nod their heads and say yes" to the secret blood oath or "suffer their lives to be taken." The second grave sin of ignorance that the members do in the temples (mark of the beast - have to talk about that later) is to: "consecrate EVERYTHING to the church; their time, talents and all that they do possess to the church for the building up of the Kingdom of God here on this earth." Sound beautiful? Commendable? Hardly - this is idolatry!!! Why do they not consecrate to the LORD??? To consecrate to the church rather than to God JUSTIFIES the corrupt, facade, great PR, moneychangers/men who sit on bank, insurance, corporate boards and get paid for it to steal from the members. When you consecrate to the church you are fueling the great and abominable church! - 2Nephi 28:29 read the entire sections preceeding and aft and recall the infamous words of Gordon B. Hinckley when HE stated "all is well in Zion." Folks, in these scriptures IN the BOM, it warns of the antichrist who will declare "all is well in Zion." Members: you might want to reread the dreams of Lehi and Nephi contained in the BOM which are warnings to the MEMBERS of the BOM church and recall what Hinckley is known for: Great and spacious buildings and Temple building. Hmmmmm wasn't there another warning in the BOM in the book of Mosiah regarding a "type and shadow of things to come???" - a repeat of the life of the wicked King Noah (who WAS the president of the church - check out who his father was) who like Hinckley: built many great and spacious buildings and temple(s), flattered the people, did the thinking for them - i.e. interpreted their dreams, and had 12 High priests (parallel the 12 apostles of the LDS church)! | ||
| truerae New member Username: truerae Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.92.246.210 |
3rd part - done my good deed ! And isn't there a warning and responsibility given to all of the ignorant, blindly obedient sheep/members of the church in the Doctrine and Covenants to expose the corrupt false profit/apostles? D&C 64:38-40 "And it shall come to pass that the inhabitants of Zion shall judge all things pertaining to Zion. (Zion is Utah, or whereever mormons live,folks) And liars and hypocrites, shall be proved by them, and they who are not apostles and prophets shall be known. (meaning those who profess to the true apostles and prophets) And even the bishop, who is a judge, and his counselors, if they are not faithful in their stewardships shall be condemned, and others shall be planted in their stead. The church which is the great and abominable church with Hinckley fulfilling ALL prophecies regarding the anti-christ needs to be cleansed. And it all began with Joseph Smith who was warned by God: D&C 3:4 "For although a man may have many revelations, and have power to do many mighty works, yet if he boasts in his own strength and sets at naught the counsel of God, and follows after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires, he must fall and incur the vengeance of a just God upon him." Joseph Smith's fall, his boasting and carnal desires are historically proven. [- JS's adultery was justified by polygamy even though it was condemned by the BOM(!)- called an abmoniation even if it was done by David and his son Solomon (Jacob 2:38-40 Jacob chapter 3 - polygamy caused the destruction of the Nephites)] Fact: Everyone can pray and receive revelation if they have a pure heart. Fact: Joseph Smith fell and became corrupt. |
