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     ezekiel3_17 (ezekiel3_17) New member Username: ezekiel3_17 Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 61.41.170.170 |
Please let us have additional information for ministry of Manmin Joong-ang Church and Jaerock Lee(Lee-Jaerock). Do you have additional information ? Please refer following links. http://www.geocities.com/anti_manmin/theological_issue.htm For more systematic cult dispute for Manmin and Lee-Jaerock, please visit following link. http://www.angelfire.com/space/lee_jae-rock/ http://www.angelfire.com/linux/antimanmin/ http://spaces.msn.com/members/leejaerock/ MBC broadcsting company assault reported in BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/342414.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/341657.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/342335.stm Warning archieves in religionjournal.com http://www.religionjournal.com/showarticle.asp?id=158 Cult research group report organization http://www.apologeticsindex.org/m00.html Manmin Joong-ang Church Related Site ( Recently they removed all cult-related articles from thier website, critical evidences exists in Korean language and Video clip ) http://www.manmin.or.kr http://www.gcntv.org ( Global Christian Network, opens Feb 2005, Atlanta, USA ) http://www.manminresearch.org http://www.manmin.tv http://www.manmintv.org (Message edited by ezekiel3_17 on July 09, 2005) | ||
| ezekiel3_17 (ezekiel3_17) New member Username: ezekiel3_17 Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2005 Posted From: 148.244.150.52 |
False teachings of Lee Jae-Rock & the Manmin cult Lee Jae Rock sounds like a great spiritual healing evangelist and does preach biblica1 sermons at his large public crusades, but underneath the surface is in reality a heretical teacher. Unfortunately, information about the heresy and highly questionable character of Lee Jae-Rock is rare in English (though a number of books and websites in Korean do expose him.) He was excommunicated as a cult leader from his own denomination (Church of Holiness) in May 1990 and from the Korean Christian Association (Han Ki Chong) on 30th of April 1999 because of his unbiblical teachings. Lee Jae-Rock (also known as Jaerock Lee) claims to have received revelation just like the Apostle John. He claims his body has sinless blood (due to a blood transfusion in 1992). He meets with the prophets, apostles and patriarchs. His spirit is at the left side of God's throne. He will be the judge on the last day and all the angels submit to him. And he has made many more such claims. In Korea a documentary video was aired exposing Lee Jae-Rock's bizarre claims and gambling activities. A number of his followers stormed the TV facility to prevent the broadcast. At least 600 South Korean riot police were called out to end the occupation. The Manmin church had earlier reportedly obtained a court order preventing MBC from screening a story about Lee Jae-Rock's sex life. For more information on Lee Jae-Rock, see the links below. This picture show a trickery that Lee-Jaerock insists a woman prasing missionary was transfrmed into a light of glory. See the crown in the head of her. TV team of Manmin church made an special SF effect to deceive the eyes of its members. This was aired as a TV documentary of PD's note of MBC broadcasting company, located in Seoul, South Korea. Please visit following link for more information. http://manminsurvey.tripod.com/ | ||
| johnsteward (johnsteward) New member Username: johnsteward Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 202.139.41.202 |
1999 Official statement of CCK regarding Manmin and Lee-Jaerock (CCK, http://www.cck.or.kr) Manifesto The damages which were caused by christian heresies become a serious social problem in Korea. Many churches at home and abroad have been harmed by them, especially in the mission. Recently, Jae-Rock Lee, the pastor of the Manmin Church which is located at 851, Guro-Dong, Guro-Gu, Seoul, is controversial for his heretical behaviors. We (The Christian Council of Korea) have studied his insistences and tenets, and came to the conclusion that Lee is heretical. 1. Lee's view on revelation is heretical. Although Lee says that "I believe the Bible as the word of God.", this is a way to hide his aspects of heresy. He belongs to the so-called direct-revelation group. He insists that he delivers the message of God which is not written in the Bible. This bears the heretical tenets that the biblical revelation is still continuing by Lee. 2. Lee's eschatology and the believing in the future existence is heretical. Lee's believing in the future existence consists of 5-stage heaven and 5-stage faith. This is non-biblical argument, and can not be supported by Korean churches. The purpose of this tenets is to specialize Lee and the Manmin Church. The insistences that God unusually appears at the Manmin Church, God comes down at the Manmin Church at particular times, and the shape of God is that of the human being, are fraud and lie. Moreover his insistences such that "God informed me[Lee] of the Second coming" and that "Because of my demand and prayer, God came down" are the one of the time-limit eschatology. 3. Lee's doctrine of sin is heretical. Lee insists that as the blood of Jesus who was crucified 2000 years ago did not contain original sin and willful sin, so is his(Lee) blood, because he poured out all of his blood in 1992 and was filled with innocent blood that does not contain original sin and willful sin which inherited from his parents. This insistence makes many theological problems meaning that the sin of human being is inside the blood. Especially it denies the meaning of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. 4. Lee's doctrine of church is heretical. Lee said that : "The throne came down at the Manmin Church.", "Those who was written in the Scriptures will reappear at the Manmin Church.", "When we worship at the Manmin Church, the angels worship like us in the Heaven", "God put the key of the New-Jerusalem at the Manmin Church", "Because the people of the Manmin Church are tied with Lee, they will enter the fifth heaven (New-Jerusalem) directly". These insistences mean that only the Manmin Church has the salvation. In conclusion, Lee's doctrine of church has the heretical natures, neglecting the properties of the church ; the uniqueness, the universality and the property of the apostle. 5. The heretical properties of Lee's doctrine of salvation and the deification for Lee. It reached at its height that Lee has been deified by his followers and that he deified himself. For example, he said that : "If Lee calls the disciples of Jesus or all the prophets like Abraham, they should come down as an employee called by his boss does", "Lee has no willful sin and original sin because he poured out his blood that inherited from his parents", "The death flees from Lee", "Lee's spirit is sitting at the left side of the Throne of God", "Lee has the power of the determination for life and death.", "Lee is one with the Lord because he has no sin." "Lee has completed all the words in the 66 scriptures excepting the walking on the water", "Lee will advocate the saints in the final Day of Judge", "God gave Lee the key of the New-Jerusalem", "The shape of God resembles Lee", "While Jesus had completed the Law, Lee has completed the words in the Scriptures." These statements clearly show the deification for Lee. Furthermore the statement that whenever he calls, all of the prophets and the disciples of Jesus should appear is similar to the action of spirits-calling. It is the pagan idea which was forbidden by God.(Dt., 18:11) A similar case can not be found in the Scriptures. In May, 1990, Lee was already decided as heresy by the Jesus Korea Sungkyul Church to which Lee belonged. It is to be regretted that we can't deny that some of christian broadcastings, presses, and reverends rendered assistance before, so that Lee's heretical insistences spreaded. All the churches in Korea must know the heretical tenets of J. R. Lee, and must unite thoroughly to cope with Lee. April, 1999 The Christian Council of Korea Representative Chirman Rev. Mahn-Shin Lee Executve Secretary Rev. Young-Ryul Park -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This article was translated from "Official statement regarding Manmin and Lee-Jaerock 1999" of CCK. (Tel +82-2-741-2782 Advertizement section, Mr. Chung Kim) | ||
| johnsteward (johnsteward) New member Username: johnsteward Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 193.136.157.2 |
2004 Annual Research Report by Christian Council of Korea Against Manmin Sect (CCK, http://www.cck.or.kr) The Christian Council of Korea specified Lee-Jaerock of Manmin Joong-ang Holiness Church as sect on April 16 1999. The Christian Council of Korea accepted in one accord the report of 5 researchers in cult and sect research committee, that concluded that Lee-Jaerock as a terrible sect leader of an extremely mystic nature. According to his research report, Lee-Jaerock has taught definite cultic doctrine in the view of revelation, eschatology, the view of the hereafter, the theology of human sin, and theology of salvation. ( cf. 11th annual assembly report of Christian Council of Korea, 2000, page250~251) CCK (Christian Council of Korea) is the representitive protestant Christian association of Korea with which 51 Korean protestant denominations joined. The theology of salvation and the deification status Lee-Jaerock denies that he deifies himself, but the situation that he is diefied by his followers is very intense. And Lee-Jaerock himself is leading them into that. 1) If Lee-Jaerock calls all prophets, like Abraham, etc and the disciples of the Lord, they appear just like a company supervisor appears when a president calls him. The prophets and the disciples come even though they are called without any title of honor like "sir" or "saint". And the prophets and the disciples salute him. (July 5 1998, evening service, July 17 1998 Friday overnight service) 2) In 1992, Lee-Jaerock said that during a blood transfusion he shed out all blood received from his parents, and he then received sinless blood, so his original sin and committing sins had disappeared. And he insisted that it is just like the sinless blood of Jesus. (July 5 1998 Evening service) 3) Lee-Jaerock claims that death evades him. (July 5 1998 evening service) 4) The spirit of Lee-Jaerock is sitting in the left hand of God's throne. (July 5 1998 evening service) 5) Lee-Jaerock has the authority of life and death. (July 5 1998 evening service) 6) In addition, Lee-Jaerock said that he has no original sin and commits no sin. And because the Lord and he is one. the Lord put him in the sun and moon and proclaims it to the world. (July 5 1998 evening service) 7) Lee-Jaerock said, he has achieved all the miracles in 66 books of the Bible except for walking on the surface of water. (June 21 1998 Sunday service) 8) Lee-Jaerock said that he will personally advocate manmin church members beside the Lord in the day of the Judgement. (July 5 1998 evening service) 9) Lee-Jaerock said that because he does not have original sin and committed sin by shedding out the blood received from his parents, so the death evades him. (July 5 1998 evening service) 10) Lee-Jaerock said that God came and left the key of the New Jerusalem on July 3 1998. (July 5 1998 evening service) 11) Lee-Jaerock said, because he and God became one, he appears in the sun and moon. And it is the thing that he register as a patent. (June 28 1998 evening service, October 16 1998 Friday overnight service) Because Lee-Jaerock believed, obeyed and testified the words of the 66 Bible books as it is, he became one with God and he is in the left hand of God's throne. (July 5 1998 evening service) Lee-Jaerock said that God put Lee-Jaerock inside of the moon and the electric lamp and told 'You and Me are one". (July 17 1998 Friday overnight service) 12) And Lee-Jaerock said that if one sees in spiritually-opened eyes, he can see the appearance of God, and its big mouth, its eyes into which one might be sucked, and its lips resembles those of Lee-Jaerock. (June 28 1998 evening service) 13) Lee-Jaerock insists that there was no event since the creation of the world, than when God certified the promise given to Lee-Jaerock. (June 28 1998 evening service) 14) Lee-Jaerock said that Jesus of 2000 years ago fulfilled the Old Testament, and Lee-Jaerock himself achieved the word of 66 books of the Bible. (June 28 1998 evening service) 15) Lee-Jaerock does not get wet with rain wherever he goes. (June 28 1998, evening service) If Lee-Jaerock commands, the briquet gas goes away. (June 28 1998, evening service) A patient is cured even by just touching the handkerchief on which he prayed. (August 9 1998 evening service) Critic review First, the word that if Lee-Jaerock calls, all prophets like Abraham and the Lord's disciple appears, is a type of the ideology of invokating the spirits of the dead. It is the thing that any such reference could not be found in the Bible. And it is the heathen acts strictly forbidden by God. (Deuteronomy 18:11) Next, Lee-Jaerock insists that he does not deifies himself. But it is merely a trick similar to what other many Korean sect leaders do. They claims to be gods to their own people but do not say such things publicly. Seeing the assertions that his original sin and committing sin had disappeared by shedding out all his blood received from his parents, and that word that for Lee-Jaerock the death evades, and the word that the spirit of Lee-Jaerock is sitting in the left hand of God's throne, and the word that Lee-Jaerock has the authority of life and death and the word that he registered as a patent for the fact that the Lord put Lee-Jaerock in the sun and moon and proclaimed the Lord and he is one because Lee-Jaerock does not have the original sin and the committing sin, and the word that he achieved all of the miracles in the 66 books of the Bible except for walking on the surface of the water, and the word that Lee-Jaerock would advocate for his members beside the Lord in the day of the Judgement, and the word that God left the key of the New Jerusalem to him, and the word that the appearance of God resembled the body shape of Lee-Jaerock, and his assertion that there was no such thing that God certified the promise given to Lee-Jaerock through various lights since the creation of this world, and the word that the Lord fulfilled the Old Testament 2000 years ago and Lee-Jaerock himself achieved the words of 66 books of the Bible, they are the words that he can never say if he is not diefied. At last, diefication ideology of Lee-Jaerock as above shows that Lee-Jaerock becomes the condition of the salvation, and not only in terms of theology of Christ, but in terms of the theology of salvation, it made to begot a terrible sect ideology. Conclusion Lee-Jaerock had been specified as sect by Korean Holiness Church of Jesus (http://www.sungkyul.org) in May 1990. But some broadcasting companies, press, a part of pastors and revivalists of the Christianity became his fence to help to diffuse his sect teachings to Korean churches. According to the research result as above, Lee-Jaerock is a terrible sect teacher of an extremely mystic nature, and it is concluded that the Korean churches should be warned thoroughly against him. If the Korean authentic churches allow him, unexpected damages are expected. So all churches are required to have to cope with him, being allied altogether across the denominations of the Korean Christianity. This article was translated from "Cult, Sect General Report 2004" of CCK. (Tel +82-2-741-2782 Advertizement section, Mr. Chung Kim) | ||
| ebato New member Username: ebato Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 76.100.214.0 |
Here's what I don't get. If they're a cult. And they have principles upon which they stand. Why would they "[remove] all cult-related articles from thier website?" That seems unreasonable. I mean Mormons are considered heretics and Mormonism a cult, and still they have everything they believe in on their website. And so if they don't have cult related beliefs and articles on their site anymore are they still a "cult"? I mean has anyone here actually listened to any of the sermons? I listened to a couple just to find out what it was all about, and those claims up there are either ridiculously skewed, mistranslated, or purely made up. I mean isn't religion supposed to enlighten the participants? So why would you listen to what other people have to say about the guy, unless you're just lazy. And if you are, you are merely perpetuating gossip and illegitimate claims that, say, "false prophets" might proclaim? Yeh get educated. Also everything is so biased. How everything that might be good about him is "claimed" and everything that might be "bad" about him is somehow understood as truth? Right? If it's bad, it can't possibly be merely an allegation. How ridiculous! Get enlightened. Read the bible. Try an actual source. |
