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gilmore
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Username: gilmore
Post Number: 18
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 67.115.60.55
| | Posted on Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 11:53 am: | 
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Greek- homologia- profession: whom we profess to be ours it means in context of the book to hold to the one you have confessed for your salvation. The Hebrew believers wanted to turn back under Judaism to avoid the persecution, the author is admonishing them to go on to maturity, holding to what they first stated in their belief. It does not mean you are saying something to possess it as the faith teachers teach.
Furthermore, Scripture does not teach in any way shape or form that Jesus Christ is to obey our words. The Scriptures clearly teach the opposite-- that we are to obey Jesus Christ and keep his commands. |
hombre
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Username: hombre
Post Number: 192
Registered: 8-2005
Posted From: 209.254.77.23
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 4:21 pm: |
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1.) It does not mean you are saying something to possess it as the faith teachers teach.
2.) we are to obey Jesus Christ and keep his commands.
#2 is true.
#1 is false.
What do you do with scriptures like:
Mark 11:22-24?
Here....I shall quote it for you:
And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
For verily I say unto you, That WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart,
but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass;
HE SHALL HAVE WHATSOEVER HE SAITH
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire,
WHEN YOU PRAY, BELIEVE that ye receive them,
and ye SHALL have them.
...so then....you are right about one thing, that we are to obey Jesus,
but I seem to recall....maybe about a zillion times, give or take a few,
that in order to follow Jesus, one must have FAITH.
I believe that is the basic tenet of Christianity...is it not?
Heb 11: 6.
...but without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please him:
for he that cometh to God must believe that:
1.) HE IS, ( do I need to delve into the OT name: 'I AM' ? )
2.) and that HE IS A REWARDER of them that diligently seek him.
Luke 12: 32
Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's GOOD PLEASURE to give YOU the kingdom.
Gods' kingdom includes this present world.
Psalm 22: 27-28
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord:
and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
For the KINGDOM IS THE LORD's: and he IS the governor among the nations.
1 Cor. 3:22
Therefore let no man glory in men. For ALL THINGS are your's;
Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death,
or THINGS PRESENT, or things to come; all are your's;
And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.
Gilmore, your argument is very religious and quite pious,
much akin to the Roman Catholic vows of poverty.
However, it is flawed with reference to what the Bible says
about Gods' will to bless His people materially,
and about the nature of salvation that Jesus Christ bought
for mankind through the shedding of His blood to seal
the New Covenant: i.e., that salvation is for the WHOLE man,
body, soul and spirit...NOW in THIS TIME as well as the
Baptist driven doctrine of the sweet by and by.
...just one more scripture:
Mark 10: 29-30
... And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you,
There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters,
or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake,
and the gospel's, but he shall receive an hundredfold NOW IN THIS TIME ,
houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands,
with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
..and one warning:
Gal 1: 8 - 9.
...but though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, LET HIM BE ACCURSED .
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel
unto you than that ye have received, LET HIM BE ACCURSED .
Clearly, your gospel is different than the one I have. |
1faithassemblykid
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Username: 1faithassemblykid
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2006
Posted From: 24.33.253.231
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 1:15 am: |
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How are most of the 'Faith Assembly kids' doing these days, I wonder? My guess is that most are either in jail or have a drug problem or both. Some quick background on me, then I will return to this subject.
My backtround story in a nutshell. My parents were recruited in '74, and I was born in '75 the oldest, making me 30 at this writing. My dad, GW occasionally 'led the worship' when JE was off and very occasionally preached. He also travelled weekly to New Whiteland to lead the worship for JB and occasionally preach.
When I was 12ish, we moved to in shortly after JB started Faith Christian Assembly in Acton, IN.
Luckily, my dad and JB had a fight about whether or not Paul Cain was a prophet, my dad got booted, and our family slowly normalized without the weekly reinforcement from the church. This happened around 1990-1ish.
Now, given the massive homeschooling and lack of any normal social interaction with peers for most of the FAKids, I'd imagine a huge % are 'not doing well.' I was one of the lucky ones, my parents decided to put me in public school after kindergarten. Still, not being allowed to have friends at school over, etc, was still a major social stumbling block for me and definitely stunted my social development.
I remember debating in 3rd grade whether or not to turn my parents into the authorities, because then someone else would get custody and I would be allowed to play on the basketball team at school.
Instead of a jock, from like 17 or so I was a total stoner, and pretty much was high for 5 straight years. The next 6 years or so, I drank lots of whiskey about 6.5 nights a week or so. The last 2 years, I've been maturing/calming down with that stuff.
Don't get me wrong, I don't regret any of the partying I did, but there is a HUGE correlation to it and my FA upbringing.
I think that I'm lucky that I came out of all that relatively unscathed legally and career-wise.
I'm starting to ramble so I'll stop, but am interested in any other FA kids stories.
I'd be interested to hear any other kids' stories.
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