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solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 126
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 64.122.31.130
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 6:55 pm: | 
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Here is a joke about Mormonism that I, a Mormon, find funny.
A man dies and reaches the Pearly Gates. As he goes in, Peter meets him and praises him. "You were a great example to others all through your life, you were kind and Christlike . . .I've been told to give you the grand tour of Heaven!"
They walk to the top of a hill, and then fly over a valley. Below them, they see cathedrals and hear much laughter and watch a great procession go through the town below them, a festival with much joy and food. When they reach the next hill and land, Peter says "That's the Catholics, Episcopalians and the really ceremonial kinds of Christians."
The next valley has many church buildings of various designs, from humble cottages to great glass-and-chrome assembly halls. Orators can be heard preaching with various thundering phrases, choirs are singing, and there are church picnics all across the valley. "That's the rest of the Protestants."
The next valley has synagogues, and the smell of cooking rises up into the sky. "The Jews?" the man asks, and Peter nods.
As they reach the crest of the next hill, Peter says "Okay, now, you have to be absolutely silent until we reach the next hill. Not a SOUND!" With that, he waves his hand and they both become invisible.
This last valley is the largest by far, a place of incredible beauty. Polynesian waterfalls feed streams which wander the valley and irrigate agricultural fields full of corn and wheat and sugar cane, pineapples, fruit of all description, cattle, sheep, and all of them being tended by groups of industrious, happy, singing people. As they continue, the man and Peter pass over lovely cities, each graced with wide streets and beautiful temples. After what seems like hours, they reach the other side. Peter makes them visible again as the man asks why they had to be unseen and silent. "Who are those people?"
Peter chuckles. "Those are the Mormons. They grow all of the food in Heaven, but they think they're the only ones up here!" |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 127
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 64.122.31.130
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 6:59 pm: |
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Another Joke:
The Pope calls all of his Cardinals together. "I just got a phone call, and . . .it is my honor to announce that the call came from Jesus Christ himself, and he is returning in two days, and wants me to meet him on his arrival."
The Cardinals, shocked, look at each other, then begin to cheer, until one looks at their leader. "Holy Father, why aren't you cheering?"
The Pope sighs. "He's landing in Salt Lake City . . !"
My question for the rest of you is, if he DID land in Salt Lake City, what would it take you to believe that it was really Jesus? |
overseas (overseas)
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Username: overseas
Post Number: 134
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 164.143.240.33
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 4:27 am: |
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I pray that the real Jesus would come to Salt Lake City. |
ohwretchedmanthatiam (ohwretchedmanthatiam)
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Username: ohwretchedmanthatiam
Post Number: 3
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 24.237.120.146
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 6:28 am: |
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The New Jerusalem is clearly described in the Bible, preferably Hebrew and Major Greek Text Translations. Approximately 1500 miles 3D Height, width and breadth. Approximately 2/3 the size of the moon. Interesting when one looks at what is written and translates it and compares it to known objects in the earth and heavens even today. Rev 21:16 That is just the city. Bigger than the state of Alaska, LOL
I am dumbounded by a Jesus/GOD who sits between the Cheribums, gave us his Word and brings us into his presence when He chooses. May Jesus/GOD keep us from falling into false docrtines and apostacy. He is the creator of all things seen and unseen, I am merely his creation, his lowly servant, if he is willing to use me for his good will.
If people could hear the pleas for forgivness, mercy, guidance, help, and suffering in a world of sin, would we still find humor? A man of sorrows is Jesus legacy. Isaiah 53:3
The truth, the way and the Word of Jesus clearly show Jesus returns to Jerusalem, the place of the original sacrifice of the Lamb/Ram for Abraham Genesis 22:13 for his son and GOD/Jesus for the sins of the World. His foot will split mount olivet upon his return to Jerusalem KJ Rev 21
Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb.. www.endtime-truth.com
The great and terrible Day of the LORD won't be a happy event for most of the World. Who can stand it? Many false christs will abound in these days. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Nothing will be hidden and all will be revealed to those taken into Heaven. There will be no unrepentend gnostics, etc. nor wickedness in Heaven.
Be careful to not mock Jesus/GOD or his Holy habitation, as it also is a mocking of He who sits between the Cheribums. I never heard an angel or principality create humor about Heaven and those who reside there. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 130
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 9:59 am: |
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Overseas: He has.
Despite the fact that you think he couldn't find America . . ! ;) |
overseas (overseas)
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Username: overseas
Post Number: 140
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 164.143.240.33
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 10:05 am: |
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Quote: "He has".
My answer: Something did. Not the real Jesus. cause Jesus leaves His mark. You don't have that.
Now people around me use to say I have a very developed sense of humour for a christian. But here you put in my mouth mocking words against Jesus. I cannot joke about that. Apparently you can. I pray for your soul. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 141
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Friday, January 07, 2005 - 8:04 pm: |
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Overseas: Yes, Jesus leaves his mark, and I certainly do have it.
". . .for a Christian"? You think that Christians aren't supposed to have a sense of humor? You think that Jesus never laughed?
You mock Jesus every time you say that he isn't "real," every time that you refuse to recognize him because he isn't what you demand that he be.
The Pharisees had the same trouble. They had "all of the scripture," and were watching for a god of war who would sweep their enemies into the sea. instead, the Messiah was one who taught people to think and to be their better selves.
Because he wasn't who they demanded that he be, they had him executed on Golgotha. Because he isn't who you demand that he be, you have executed him in your heart. |
overseas (overseas)
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Username: overseas
Post Number: 153
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 82.76.248.59
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 5:34 pm: |
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You attack me personally and do not respect me as a person. I have communicated you what I had to say on several topics. No more on this thread. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 154
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 9:45 pm: |
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If I didn't respect you as a person, I would ignore you. I think that you are misguided in some ways, and show wisdom in others. If you can get beyond the knee-jerk reactions which have been programmed into you, you have a great potential.
And let me note that it is you who has consistently disrespected me in here. I don't take it too personally, but there it is. |
godchild (godchild)
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Username: godchild
Post Number: 13
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 64.28.61.227
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 12:31 am: |
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For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Ephesians 2:8 The LDS church is not a church of God, the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 255
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:11 am: |
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GC:
If you say so. |
godchild (godchild)
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Username: godchild
Post Number: 21
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 64.28.49.141
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:49 pm: |
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Jesting: foolish jesting forbidden, Eph. 5:4
Jesus Christ, The Son Of God
Luke 1:26-38 Luke 1:46-55, Luke 1:39-56, Luke 2:1-7Luke 2:41-52, Mark 1:9:11, John 2:13-25, John 4:4-42, Matt. 4:13, Matt. 16:21-28, Luke 9:28-36, MARK 9:38-39, Luke 11:1-13, Matt. 19:3-11, Mark 11:1-11, Matt. 24, John 14, John 15, John 16,John 17, Matt. 27:35-56, Matt. 27:57-66Matt. 28:16Acts 1:3-8, Acts 9:3-17, Acts 7:55-56, 1 Corin 10:4-9
ATTRIBUTES: Luke 2:30-31, Col. 1:19-20, Gal 4:4-5, 1 Peter 3:18, Hew. 10:10-12, 1 Peter 1:20, The Mystery of: 1 Cor. 2:7-9, 1 Peter 1:8-12,
HOW TO TEST OR TRY THE SPIRITS: 1 John 4:1-4,
ALL ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP Heb. 1:6 The word made flesh John 1:14, A Savior promised of God, Acts 13:23, Rom. 8:3, Phil 2:7, Those denying Jesus as Son of God, are antichrist, 2 John 7, Death of Jesus, voluntary offering, Mark 14:36, John 10:17, dEITY OF: rEV. 1:8, jOHN 1:1, rEV. 5:13, hEB. 13:8, Col. 1:13-24,
JESUS EXALTED Col. 3:1, Acts 3:21, Phil, 2:9-10 and much more His humility-his divinity-Jesus to judge-Jesus the King, Matt. 21-5, Acts 5:31, 1 Tim. 6:15, 1 Peter 3:22, Rev. 5:6 A loving Jesus, Christ our mediator,His meekness, miracles, His Mission, His obediance, The Parables, His Perfection, Matt. 3:11, John 7:18, Acts 13:28, 2 Corin. 4:4, Heb. 3:2, His promisrs, Mark 10:29, Luke 18:29-30, Luke 23:43, Heb. 3:2, 2 CORINTAHINS 4:4, Power to forgive, Prayers, His Pre-existance, John 8:56, John 17:5, Phil. 2:7, John 1:1, Worship of, His sufferings, The second coming, Luke 21:27, Acts 1:11, 1 Cor. 4:5, Titus 2:13, James 5:7 and more, His zeal, His tempations. (Praise God for giving us his word, the truth, and the life.) |
godchild (godchild)
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Username: godchild
Post Number: 69
Registered: 1-2005
Posted From: 64.28.51.205
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 11:58 am: |
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My stepfather, a Pres. of a branch of L.D.S. was traveling to Portland, (with my sister and Mother), to take a plane back to Alaska. While in Reno, NE, my sister had won a cap at Fitzgerald's casino. It was a nice cap and My stepfather was wearing it. My Mother was so excited to be able to see the new temple in Portland so they stopped there. While everyone waited in the car, my stepfather went inside. Only upon coming back to the car did my mother realize he had worn the cap on 'so called' sacred ground and they were all mortified. The funny-sad part of this was they believe it is okay to wear a cap advertising a gambling casino, but not to wear it on temple grounds. God sees every thing, knows the number of hairs on our head.  |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 293
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 7:13 pm: |
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GC:
No, the funny-sad part of this is that you don't understand that there are times and places that one should hold to a more reverent and higher standard of behavior than the rest of the times and places of your life.
I'd be willing to bet that if I visited your cult on Sunday wearing the grease-stained clothes which I had worn while working on my plane the day before, there would be some pretty pointed comments made (though they might be made behind my back).
And, if you were really ever LDS, you know that gambling is so strongly condemned that we are told not to pay tithing on or with any winnings. That means that we are not able to pay a full and complete tithe on our "gain." |
yaakov (yaakov)
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Username: yaakov
Post Number: 150
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.205.188.53
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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I found some Mormon jokes.
I don’t get these, hope they are funny to those that do:
Q: What do you call lime Jell-O with shredded carrots?
A: Mormon soul food.
Q: Why is Mother's Day tough on Mormon kids?
A: You aren't sure who to buy for.
Q: Why do Mormon women stop having babies at thirty-five?
A: Because thirty-six is just too many.
Q: Why do Mormon missionaries have such big bladders?
A: Because they only get one p-day a week.
Have you heard about the new returned missionary doll? You pull the string and its hair falls out.
Did you hear about the Mormon empiricist who had identical twins? He baptized one and kept the other as a control.
Q: Where do crows and blackbirds come from?
A: They're former seagulls who refused to eat the crickets.
Aha, these I get. I thought the last one was the funniest.
A Presbyterian minister, a Methodist preacher and a Mormon bishop, together with their wives, were all killed simultaneously in a multi-vehicle accident. At the Pearly Gates, St. Peter checked the records on the Presbyterian minister and sorrowfully said, "I'm sorry. You can't come in. You were a decent fellow, but you loved money too much. Face it, that's why you married a girl named Penny."
After checking the records for the Methodist preacher, Peter denied him entry on the grounds that he loved alcohol too much. "Face it, that's why you married a girl named Sherry."
About this time, the Mormon bishop took his wife by the arm. "Let's go," he said. "I don't think they'll let us in here, Fanny."
Two Mormon missionaries were walking down the street when they ran into two Jehovah's Witnesses coming directly at them from the opposite direction. The elders stopped, and one of the Jehovah's Witnesses said, "We don't move for false witnesses."
One missionary said, "We do," and they went around them.
Q: Why should you always invite at least two Mormons on a camping trip?
A: Because if you invite only one, he'll drink all your beer and smoke all your cigarettes.
A Baptist, a Catholic, and a Mormon were discussing their families. The Baptist said, "I have four children -- one more, and I'll have my own basketball team."
The Catholic said, "I have eight children -- one more and I'll have my own baseball team."
The Mormon said, "That's nothing. I have seventeen wives -- one more, and I'll have my own golf course."
As the Mormon pioneers were crossing the final stretches of the Wasatch Mountains, a scout came riding into camp to report to Brigham Young. "Brother Brigham," said the scout, entering the prophet's wagon. "Less than a day's ride ahead, there's a wide fertile valley with a crystal-clear lake in the middle. There are fields of wheat as far as the eye can see, and the fruit is practically falling off the tress. If we settle there, our people will have nothing to do all day long but fish and make love."
"That is the right place," said Brother Brigham. "Ride ahead and salt the lake." |
godchild (godchild)
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Username: godchild
Post Number: 70
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Posted From: 64.28.62.236
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 8:20 pm: |
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henseggs, soLOT, don't you get the yoke!
MAKE NOTE. The first person to post jokes on this page was ST. soLOT!
Three men were walking along the bank of a river when they came to a flooded area. The first man, Jesus, walked across the river with no problem. The second man, Joseph Smith, walked across also. When JS got to the other side, he yelled to the third man, the Pope, "step on the log as I did and you will make it and won't get too wet". Jesus said "What Log?" |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Username: solopilot
Post Number: 301
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 9:05 pm: |
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Yaakov:
I'll explain them, in turn:
"Q: What do you call lime Jell-O with shredded carrots?
A: Mormon soul food."
Utah generally leads the nation in Jell-O sales, lime is the most popular flavor, and a lot of people put in shredded carrots (bleah).
"Q: Why is Mother's Day tough on Mormon kids?
A: You aren't sure who to buy for."
This is a reference to polygamy.
"Q: Why do Mormon women stop having babies at thirty-five?
A: Because thirty-six is just too many."
Mormons have big families. A related joke:
Q: What's the difference between a Baptist wedding and a Mormon wedding?
A: At the Mormon wedding, it's the MOTHER of the bride who is four months pregnant!
"Q: Why do Mormon missionaries have such big bladders?
A: Because they only get one p-day a week."
"P-day" is "Preparation day," the one day which is not spent doing missionary stuff. That's when a missionary does laundry and shopping, visits the local sights, etc.
"Have you heard about the new returned missionary doll? You pull the string and its hair falls out."
I dunno about this one. Sounds like a girl's counterpart to the "BYU coed doll" joke ("you put a ring on her finger and her hips expand").
"Did you hear about the Mormon empiricist who had identical twins? He baptized one and kept the other as a control."
This is a science joke, slightly translated from Baptist to Mormon. "Empirical" studies require a "control," a baseline from which to determine change of the experiment.
"Q: Where do crows and blackbirds come from?
A: They're former seagulls who refused to eat the crickets."
Black = the mark put upon Cain.
A corollary to the salt lake joke:
Two pioneers met to talk, in the midst of a Utah famine. One says to the other "I still say that 'this is the place' was a QUESTION!"
GC:
Sorry, no, I really didn't see the joke until you said that it was one. Sorry! ;) I'm just so used to digs at the Church from you that I took it as such. But yes, in a way it is funny.
BTW, I have always loved the log joke.
A corollary: Joseph Smith, Jr, was walking along the Mississippi River with Thomas Sharp, the newspaper editor who stirred up violence against the Saints in Illinois. He turns to Sharp and says "What do I have to do to prove that I'm telling the truth?" Joseph kneels, and prays for inspiration, which soon comes. He then walks across the river and back, kept dry by the power of the Priesthood. "Well, now what do you have to say?"
The next headline in Sharp's paper: "JOE SMITH CAN'T SWIM!" |
bigboy (bigboy)
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Username: bigboy
Post Number: 47
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 66.79.54.75
| | Posted on Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 11:44 pm: |
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Solopilot wrote: "And, if you were really ever LDS, you know that gambling is so strongly condemned that we are told not to pay tithing on or with any winnings. That means that we are not able to pay a full and complete tithe on our "gain."
If gambling is condemned then why do it at all. According to this post all that seems to be condemned is the money not the gambling. Doctrinces such as these and many others that I have heard of from Mormon missionaries will have you gambling with your soul. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.53.27
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 11:59 am: |
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bigboy, How refreshing to see someone getting to the 'meat' of sp's answers. I have no reason to lie, as sp keeps accusing me, about being a past member of the mormon church. It certainly doesn't benefit me. I only admit it to because we are asked to give our own experiences, which I have tried to do. I am not writing to humor sp or anyone. Please see other responses for today about mormonism. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.53.27
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 12:08 pm: |
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in response to sp's comment about places to be more reverent. Christians begin their day thinking about and praying to God, that we may have his will in our life for that day. no matter where we are or what we are wearing has any bearing on REVERENCE!!!! If your church judges you by what you are wearing, you are in big spiritual trouble and should study God's Holy Word about what he has to say about it. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.53.27
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In response to sp's question, 'if Jesus landed in Salt Lake City, would we believe in Mormonism'. Believers will be gathered to him in the air, READ YOUR HOLY BIBLE. Where does it say in the Book of Mormon that we will wait for Jesus to LAND? |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.53.27
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 12:18 pm: |
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In response to sp's Jan 7 comments: Where does it say in the Holy Bible or Book of Mormon that Jesus laughed?
More importantly, The Holy Bible does not say the Pharisees crucified Jesus, it says the Romans did. read the Holy Bible. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 11:59 pm: |
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Bigboy:
Mormon doctrine on gambling is "Don't!"
GC:
Your claims to have been a Mormon give you some measure of credibility when you say things about the Church, even when they are not true. Similar claims made a career for "Dr" Walter R. Martin.
Where does it say in the Bible that Jesus DIDN'T laugh?
You really don't know much Bible history, do you? Read the "four Gospels," and you will see that it was the "chief priests" who took Jesus to see Pilate, and who demanded his death. The Roman Empire developed so widely because they let local religions alone, and left religious matters in the hands of an appointed group (in this case, the Pharisees).
Pilate tried several times to prevent the execution, but it was the Pharisees who forced him to obey Roman law and order the execution.
You REALLY didn't know this??? YHEEEH! |
bigboy (bigboy)
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Posted From: 66.79.54.75
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O.k. so the doctrine says don't gamble.
But you wrote: "And, if you were really ever LDS, you know that gambling is so strongly condemned that we are told not to pay tithing on or with any winnings. That means that we are not able to pay a full and complete tithe on our "gain."
From your statement made here gambling is not really forbidden. What is being forbidden is the tithe from your winnings. If God will not accept the tithe from your winnings then like Cain you have labored in vain. Stop the madness and see the folly in your words. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 10:58 am: |
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BB:
Sorry, I should have explained a little better. Paying a full and complete tithe is important to Latter-day Saints. While nobody but the Lord and I know if my tithing is an honest 10% of my gain, we DO know. If I gambled, and then couldn't pay tithing on any winnings, then I wouldn't honestly be able to say that my tithing was full.
That "gambler's mindset" and the lack of a full tithing would keep me out of the temple.
There is no specific commandment against gambling, but this is about as strong a condemnation as can be. It's up to me which spirit to follow, the one which leads to the Temple or the one which leads to the casino.
When I go to Las Vegas, it's for a trade show. In Reno, I'm there for the air races. If you find me in the gaming areas of a casino, it's because that's the most direct route between where I am and the elevators or the restaurant or the door to where I'm parked. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.62.206
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:48 pm: |
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As I said, (Romans ordered the death of Christ).
DUH! Knock, knock, anyone home in that place above your shoulders. If you are trying to impress people with being a pilot, owning a plane, or going to trade shows about them, you are not, so you can stop. I am only impressed that even the Mormons haven't run you out. You are so self-obsessed, which is obvious by your comments. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Posted From: 216.190.204.218
| | Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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GC:
Pilate had no choice, under the law. He tried NOT to order the execution, using every legal trick he could find.
He was forced to do what the Pharisees had ordered.
If I hold a gun on you, are you to blame for what I force you to do?
You really are a case, GC. Classic! Please never change. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.61.82
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 12:26 am: |
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This may be humorous or ironic, depending on who the reader is.
The Mormon church owns American Express Corp. See corporations thread.
According to one of the church's leaders, feminists, homosexuals, and intellectuals will cause the most problems for the church.
Anybody know Ellen Degenerous (unsure of spelling) the lady who was brave enough to 'come out' and admit she is a lesbian some years ago?
She has a new ad out FOR American Express on tv. Do you think she knows how the church feels about homosexuals. But they will probably say that doesn't include lesbians. You think?
Now who would you say will do anything for a buck? |
carlota (carlota)
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Post Number: 147
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Posted From: 69.203.6.107
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 3:53 pm: |
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Hi Godchild,
I did not see the thread on mormonism and American Express, but, I did do some research on the subject and found that, in fact, the CFO (Chief Financial Officer) of American Express is mormon. His boss, the CEO (Chief Executive Officer) is actually African American. So, by your rationale, is American Express owned by the Mormons or the Blacks? Because an employee of a corporation is of a certain religion does not make that corporation "run" by any one religion. Saying something like that just causes alarm and negative reactions. It is like if I say that the U.S. is run by Born Again Christians. Well, Bush is a Born Again Christian, isn't he? So, this country is run by Born Again Christians.
See, it just sounds, well, a little conspiracy theorist.
The Mormon Church does not by any means run American Express, rather, the CFO happens to be a Mormon. You should be careful about spreading "information" especially when it comes from other threads on this website (does not make it a fact by any means).
So, unfortunately your point about Ellen Degenres' lifestyle being at odds with "the Mormon Church" has nothing to do with American Express. She promoted American Express, The Mormon Church had nothing to do with it. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.51.184
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:48 pm: |
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Carlota you must have missed the post about the number of corporations owned by the mormon church. Check the 'mormon stock index'. SP has said so much about the church not being about money and that the members are better than others because they pay their tithe and all work is volunteer, and they do so much for the needy. I am the one who found and posted the info about the almost 50 corps owned and run by mormons. The mormon church owns American Express and are very homophobic, as you may know.
When I posted that the church owns corporations sp's response was a one liner, "what corporations". So I found them, and many more than even I realized.
I am not rascist or homophobic. The mormon church is, as quoted by their apostles. |
carlota (carlota)
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Posted From: 69.203.6.107
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:37 am: |
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Godchild,
I thought you meant that it was posted under the corporations thread on this site. I looked there and didn't see it. I have since seen your post. I do not know enough about the Mormon Church to criticize or support it.
I took issue with your phrasing which was to say that "The Mormon Church owns the American Express corp." That is not true. The result of something like that is misleading and inflamatory. In other words, that is how rumors get started. I was shocked to read it, checked the info myself and found it was not true, but not every one will do that.
If you aim is to criticize something it is better to stick to facts.
I have noticed on this site that people will resort to many things to "prove" that their church is better than someone else's or their religion is better than someone else's. That is not the intention of these forums, but that is how people use them. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.62.41
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 8:10 pm: |
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Carlota, Though I am too tired to rewrite my apology, you can read it on the other thread. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.54.208
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I recently went back to the site where I got the first mormon corporation list. It is operated by the lds. Why do they have a mormon stock index on this site with a list of all these corporations.
Since that time I have found the list of corporations but don't feel it necessary to rewrite them on this thread. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.52.76
| | Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 12:34 pm: |
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For some humorous relief, see www.reunionindex.com/sc.html |
steelsword (steelsword)
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Posted From: 207.69.138.143
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Was not the city of RENO NEVADA founded by the
mormons? ALso it was the first legalized gambling
city in the United States, I think in 1932. |
solopilot (solopilot)
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Posted From: 216.190.204.31
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Steel:
I don't know about Reno, but I doubt it. Mormon settlements generally ran north or south, from Canada to Mexico, to provide logistics support in case the Saints had to flee from Salt Lake. The only exceptions to this were along the road to Los Angeles, which was our primary seaport.
One of the towns we founded was Las Vegas. By the beginning of the 20th century, though, Mormons were a minority. By the late 1920s made up less than 10% of the population.
However, as far as being the first city with legalized gambling, no, sorry, gambling was legal all over the country until various towns started to outlaw it in the 1800s. In fact, the first towns and cities to outlaw gambling, dope and prostitution were those founded by religious groups, including the Saints. Reno might have been the first one which made gambling legal AGAIN, or which specifically regulated it, but that would be about it.
BTW, did you know that all dope was legal until the "Yellow Laws" of the 1910s? Only "yellow" drugs -- those used by Asians -- became unlawful, and it stayed that way until Prohibition. The Yellow Laws were intended to cut the power of "Chinese" (any Asian was considered Chinese) communities, and white folks poured a lot of money into opium dens. Opium production and sales were all in the hands of Asians Thus, after "Asiatic" dope was outlawed, people who wanted to burn their brains had to rely on drugs such as cocaine, which were distributed by whites.
We Mormons watched the whole thing with amusement, as Senators claimed that there was some difference between someone too high on opium to move or someone too high on cocaine or alcohol to move.
The whole thing was equated to an argument between two dogs to see which gets to chase the cat, with the cat being expected to side with the local dog. |
liberalconvert (liberalconvert)
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Posted From: 12.165.116.126
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Yaakov,
The jokes are funny. Mormon culture is quit easy to poke fun at... Mormons truely are a peculiar people |
steelsword (steelsword)
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Posted From: 207.69.138.140
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Solo, Reno was as well, founded by the mormons,
thay had a show on the history channel about it
sometime ago. I think at the time nevada was a part of the utah territory of which Young was govenor. |
joesdad (joesdad)
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Posted From: 62.253.215.25
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Steelsworld: Can you help me out? I did a Google on Reno, Charles Fuller, and Myron Lake who appear to be the best bets at being the "founders" of the original settlement. I can't find one single mention of Mormons. Can you direct me to some online historical reference that confirms what you say? - being on the other side of the world, there may be some history you get taught at shool I miss, so a little help would be appreciated. |
joesdad (joesdad)
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Posted From: 62.253.215.25
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Steelsworld: The Nevada Commission for Tourism only indicates the town of Genoa was founded by Mormons, it makes no mention when referring to Reno - but I suppose what do they know, they only live there. I'm sure you'll put me right. |
curious1 (curious1)
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Posted From: 70.185.109.254
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about the time the government made it illegal to have more'n one wife prostitution became legal in nevada. |
steelsword (steelsword)
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Posted From: 207.192.2.34
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I stand corrected, What I read was that the mormons were some of the primary settlers of Reno. This Makes sense,due to the opening of the railroad link(Pioche) from utah to Nevada,So
Joesdad I do Stand corrected, They were not the founders, so i did put you Right. |
steelsword (steelsword)
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Posted From: 207.192.2.34
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Solo , as well , the story on the history channel
was about Las Vegas. Again I stand Corrected,on this point of history. |
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Posted From: 62.253.215.25
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Steelsworld: Hey, I don;t care who founded the place, but I am really concerned at your willingness to accept negative information about the Church without any attempt to verify what you read - why does your decision to walk away from what you once believed, mean you must now so carelessly attack it? Come on, we relied on GC to come up with that kind of misinformation, so please, do us a favour and lets talk FACTS not rumours hey? |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.62.73
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The 'misinformation' I got on that site was only because the site itself was dishonest in listing a 'mormon stock index', which I explained on another thread. In fact, the real mormon corporation list which is legitimately published is much larger then the one I previously listed, so my point was made (sp insinuating that the church doesn't own corporations but is only a humanitarian church; which it is NOT). |
x11 (x11)
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Posted From: 208.186.103.29
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I was recently in utah visiting my brother who had just purchased a house, the mormon bishop came by unfortunatly for him (bishop) while I was there, He welcomed my brother to the ward and asked if he could transfer his church records, my brother declined and sayed he did not think that was a good idea, the bishop was persistent and asked why? so my brother responded with a question "why do mormons have to wear jump suit underwear"? It was to much for me to resist, I said to my brother in front of the bishop that I could explain as I had once worn "garments" but it was only for a couple of days the bishop looked at me as if I needed to repent, I went on to explain that my garments were bright orange and said "county jail" on the back. I think the bishop got the clue as my brother said the bishop takes an alternate route home from work everyday and has stopped coming by his house. hopefully the bishop makes the connection and will see the similarities between being a physical and spiritual prisoner. And of course I was not serious about being in jail.
Hope everyone is doing okay |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.61.36
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x11, I wish I could have seen the look on the bishop's face. Of all the questions your brother could have asked, that's the last one I would have thought of, but it is an important one.
While I was at my Mom's in Alaska 2 weeks ago, I was folding hers. There on all of them was the L or V symbol. I read somewhere what it means but can't remember. Don't really care to. Does this mean your brother is leaving the mormon church for good? I will pray that all is well in Utah or wherever you all may be. That would be a difficult place to be an ex. Years ago my good friend lived there for a couple of years while her husband was oil drilling. They are Lutheran and the mormons never gave them the time of day. She said it got pretty lonely there. |
steelsword (steelsword)
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Posted From: 207.192.2.34
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Viv , The "L & The V " are again the Compass and the Square From masonry & it may have had a straight line on it near the navel or on the thigh. This being the "rule" God bless Steel. |
godchild (godchild)
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Posted From: 64.28.62.126
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steel, thank you. We need to keep reminding people. Mom's are all on the bottom left side of her top. Her's are two piece. I think she is afraid to even burn them (as required by lds) as there is a whole drawer full of them that are so aged they are in bits and pieces. Though Mom is very careful of spending her money, the church is not something she limits herself on (such as geneology). I wanted to study some of her books, (she has a whole library) but felt it would be unchristian (deceptive). It was tempting but my conscience is clear. I did make a list of websites from her 'mormon websites 2003' book. I will leave it to the Lord about the others. I listed them on cultbusters.com.au if you are interested and I believe on another thread here. (sites the lds don't want christians to know about). About.com has a very good listing, (I recently discovered). They have a page showing the mason symbols. I want to compare them to the lds temple photos I have seen on the web.
Back to Mom's undies. Some of hers have the L and others the V. Do you know why? Does it mean (to them) she had reached a higher position? |
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