| Author | Message | ||
     Anonymous |
This link goes to the program transcript and slideshow of "stills": http://www.ustelevision.focusindia.com/main.html | ||
| joefraser |
im not a jehovahs witnesses but i respect them. i feel in general they offer a good example of what a true christian is, simply put this is an isolated case probable put on by the catholic church to offset all the horrendous things that have been happening there. if were to bash anyone it should be the catholic church. their SICK | ||
| Anonymous |
i was just wondering if anyone in here could give me some information on jehovahs witness...i am considering becoming one. i have heard good things about them, if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanx! email me at kiwimist87@aol.com please!! | ||
| Anonymous |
Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT Christians! The definition of a Christian is a follower of Christ. Jehovah's Witnesses do not recognize the diety of Jesus Christ. They deny the very God of Christianity. I was a JW for 8 years...I am now a Christian. The difference in the two beliefs are worlds apart. If you have questions about their beliefs please feel free to email me a Poohsmom61@yahoo.com. I would be more than happy to help..if I can. | ||
| joeyct |
A Good Links site is at : www.watchtower.tv Not a JW site! | ||
| Rosi |
To joefrazer, There are many good people who are Jehovah's witnesses, however, the child abuse issue addressed on Dateline is far from an isolated case. There are thousands of cases just like the one aired on Dateline. I was a witness for 30 years and could tell you an earfull of the most unloving situations you could imagine. Please beware and do some research. They are just as SICK as the Catholic Church. | ||
| Anonymous |
a cult is using our family and we are trapped....help us get out | ||
| Anonymous |
Hi. I am searching around for some meaning in my life? I believe I have a soul but i'm not sure and don't want to fall for crap. Any ideas? What is this all about? Is it dangerous? | ||
| Anonymous |
www.silentlambs.com they had a protest march in Brooklyn a while ago www.silentlambs.com | ||
| Anonymous |
These jehovah's witnesses are the most dangerous groups I ever known.I have been attending meetings for the last four years.You don't want to risk your life.for more information on the damages you could get there see my web site below mehttp://free.hostdepartment.com/T/Truth or emailto:melaku_behailu@yahoo.com | ||
| Shari D. |
I came to this site to have an open-minded mature discussion about Jehovah's Witnesses. Since I am one I thought I might put to rest some of the complete lies and some of the rumors that have been said about us. But I now see that all that is done here is spread more rumors about my religion. All that you do is attack us. I find that very sad. I would like to ask you WHY ARE YOU SO THREATENED BY US????? SOME ONE SAID WE ARE DANGEROUS!! I am a 19 year old girl who has been brought up by wonderful JW parents to be respectful, loving to everyone (that includes those of you who insult me and berate me for being a witness), helpful, and I wouldn't hurt or harm anyone. Infact i am the opposite I go door to door spreading the word of God, and showing people how much he loves all of us. So yes I can see why im dangerous!!! I do all of this while I get cursed at, sreamed on, spit on, beat up, and other horrible things. I THINK IM THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE SAYING HOW DANGEROUS YOU ARE!! PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS ******WHAT IS SO DANGEROUS ABOUT ME AND A RELIGION TEACHING LOVE AND PEACE ALL OF GODS TEACHINGS????********* | ||
| Anonymous |
Jehovah's Witness is the biggest cult out there. They use mind control to suck you in i.e. telling you are the chosen and they have come to show you the "truth" They truly are the goats in "sheeps clothing" After much indoctrination then if you try to refuse or leave they tell you you will be destroyed by Jehovah in Armeggendon... They are dangerous, and if they come to your door. You tell them you are not interested, and "wipe your feet" Saved from them, from God, the real God the God of Love... | ||
| Anonymous |
mind control is what you call it, yet they do what the bible tells them to do and the author of the bible is God , then yes would be wonderful to have God control our mind, however it is men that put the doubt there to misconsture the truth, they have the truth ,they actually read the bible and apply its principles, and love his son Dearly and wish to be like him, the diffanantly belive Jesus and what he has done for them, there will always be doubters due to sin and imperfection. it is very sad such a little opinion in such a great people. Gods People for sure, and not affraid to use his name in public. | ||
| Anonymous |
To Shari D. I have been a J.W. since 1988, and am in the process of exiting the organization. I know it is hard for you to hear critism of the organization, especially when it is expressed with hatred. The Witness, individually, are not evil people. As with any group, there are sick individuals in among those who sincerly wish to serve and please God. Abusers should be recognized as sick, but protecting children should ALWAYS be the priority. That is not really what I am writing to you about. What I'm going to say is something no one, Witness or otherwise wants to hear about their religious organization, and was as difficult for me to accept as it would be for you. The Society misrepresents itself, conceals facts about it's history, and (when it can get away with it), disfellowships those who question - not God, but the organizations policies. If you can get a copy, Raymond Franz's book "Crisis of Consience" will tell you all you need to know to make a truly informed decision whether or not to continue your association with the Witnesses. You owe this to yourself. As I said, I'm not happy to have learned what I now know, but I would rather know the truth than continue living a myth. Please also be assured that if you choose to leave, you will NOT also be leaving God. Your faith in him is not the same as your faith in the organization, and you do not have to lose both. Please look. | ||
| Wes |
Hey, "ANONYMOUS"... You're a chicken, a liar, and a poor deciever at that. | ||
| Wes Again |
One more thing...this was the biggest waste of time this week. Good thing it's only Tuesday! Jehovah and Jesus revealed their names(and the way to contact them). You can only fight by Satan's rules when you go against the Truth. | ||
| Anonymous |
Wes, If all your hateful words reveal the kind of spirit found in the JW's, then I am thankful to not be one. Also, don't shoot the messenger. This person simply revealed truths of the organization, not Jehovah. Don't discount what he or she says. There are abused children out there who need help and understanding after what they've been through. | ||
| clint |
The organization of JW's do not condone child abuse. The JW's do their best to be honest people. The organization is not tolerant of other organizations beliefs, therefore making themselves seperatists and are not allowed to socialize outside of the JW's unless attempting to convert. The orginazation will decide what is right and wrong even if the bible does not discuss the topic. There is no grey area with them. (i.e. gambling is bad vs. investing is ok... ok to murder as a police officer when justified but not in armed forces) You must preach the word by going door to door eventually in order to remain a JW and most will do so willingly. It is not the JW's who are split on the issue of the diefication of Christ, but Christianity has been split on this issue for many centuries. The JW's believe Christ is the son of God, Jehovah. They do not believe that Allah is the arab equivallent as the English, Jehovah, although both are often referred to as the God of Abraham and the Oxford Book of World Religion states Allah is Arab for God. Does any Christian religion realize this?! It IS possible to worship YHWH or JEHOVAH without the JW's although they would have you believe otherwise, but plenty did exactly that before the existance of JW's. If I am wrong in my analysis, feel free to tell me how at clint1111@iwon.com | ||
| Anonymous |
I have been a J/W for 17 years and I must say they do try to brain wash you. My father and I use to study with them. He was more than happy with it. As I got older though I did a little more research, and found that their bible way founded in the 1800's. which would make them a sect. This brought another question up. Where did the bible come from? In secular history, I found things that no J/W would think to talk about. The man who wrote the bible while sitting in jail and how he wanted things to be. So now there are those who are "brain washed" into thinking things. I noticed there is a lot of hate in this room. Instead of arguing to each other, maybe you all should think things though about your own religion. Studying is very uncommon these days. | ||
| Mintameara |
Hello. I am a student at Boise State University doing research on moral values in children and organized religon's effect on children. I grew up a Jahova Witness and when my family stopped attending the Kingdom Hall, for many number of reasons, I felt like a normal part of society. I then realized my calling in life was to help people and be a person of science and philosophy. I have a three year old son who has asked about God and Jesus. I read him stories from a children's bible and he is content with this. I do not see any reason to raise him in any organized religon for all values and virtues he recieves he will learn by example from me, his mother or my husband, his father. I thank the kingdom hall for that revalation. If you have a life story that you feel needs to be told, please e-mail me {Hitmobile@juno.com) I am glad to respond to anyone who grew up in the JW religion or any other for that matter. What was your take on the life you led? If you still are a witness, why? What is the appeal? What is the benifits? Please let me know for this will give teeth to my thesis. Thank you, a greatful scholar. | ||
| Leo D Saumure (64.230.146.119) |
I am looking for a Jahova witness member called Laurier Saumure Of Quebec. He was living in Quebec durring the Duplessy years. He was jailed several times by the government of the day. His case as a Jahova witness went to all of the quebec court system and ended up in the Canadian Supreme Court. The reason i am searching for him is to enter him and all of the records in my ancestry tree I hope you can help me yours truly L Saumure | ||
| islandgirl (24.109.65.165) |
I swear, I have never ...ever... met such a sad and pathetic and unforgiving group as the JW's, The damage they do to their children, and then the sickness they (the children) put on there families lives, is truly dangerous and sick. I and my family are living proof, but I know I am not the only one out there that has suffered their abuse and cultish ways, but we survive and they spiral into a world of hate and try to take us with them....WOW, what an eye opener that was. anyone out there entering into a life with a JW , just beware and hold on to your beliefs and and be strong, better yet get out. If you love your self now, you won't in a year, you will be pounded into the ground, be belittle and disrespected in EVERY way that a person can be....And believe me when I say you can not help them and you can not change them, it is to late for them, but its not to late for you. The have had the unfortunate upbringing of abuse and believe all they know to be the way. Save your self... | ||
| elsia (64.32.117.193) |
island girl? I'm curious. Do you belong to any church now? I need to know because I need information about what you know is wrong with JW beliefes. I'm a christian and someone I love is living with a family of JW. I've proven with the Bible that most of their beliefes are wrong and just based on a few verses of the Bible and not entire contexts. Anyone who reads this and can help me with info. or suggestions on how to convince him that JW are not actually "Jehovas Witnesses" because they don't believe in the Jehova the Bible tlaks about( Father, Son and Holy Spirit) ... please write to me at elisa_emtg@hotmail.com | ||
| Anonymous (207.43.195.204) |
An awsome book I suggest is by Ron Rhodes which is called "Reasoning From The Scriptures With Jehovah's Witnesses". It goes through passages that JW use to support their belief and how they incorrectly interpret them. It also gives you pointed questions you can ask them to get them to understand the problems. I also have tons of internet resources as well. M | ||
| Anonymous (68.194.171.167) |
It makes me sick to see all you innocent people asking other people to help locate your true religion. If one wants to seek the true religion, they do so themselves. They do not ask people who are inevitebly going to persuade them to go their way. Wan't an answer? Read the bible, a book written thousands of years ago that holds the truth. All the prophecies written throughout the bible have never failed to come true, even to this day they are evident. Jews neglect the greek books, for what reason?? Catholics fail to meet the requirements of a true christain, and someone who objects to that try and think of someone... definetly not the priests. The churches create doctrines simply because they do not have the strength to fulfill jehovah's requirements. There whole entire religion is based on MONEY. Jehovah's witnesses do not ask for money or any other type of temporary deed. Jehovahs witnesses DO NOT neglect christ, they simply do not WORSHIP him. This is rightfuly so. It clearly states in the bible that christ is not a god, he is mortal. Jehovahs witnesses do love christ sincerely as they close every prayer in his name. Why do people portray jehovah's witnesses so harshly? The real question should be why people neglect the true name of god. "Jehovah". people look for "appeal" and "benefits" when they search for the "true" religion. With all true benefit's you need to sacrifice greatly. Jehovah's witnesses live life according to god's will, not a priest, a rabii or any other false idol. If you live life to god's will, you will thus live to time indefinete in the paradise. p.s. I'm not a jehovah's witness because I have only begun studying independently for a year (i'm 17). If you object to anything I said please respond without basing your argument around moral values or social customs. Use evidence from the bible, the only true religious account. | ||
| Anonymous (68.194.171.167) |
Interesting quote. (i posted the previous message) "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." | ||
| Anonymous (68.194.171.167) |
I wrote the past 2 messages. I made a mistake on the first one, Jesus IS a god. Just not the almighty god. | ||
| Anonymous (208.24.179.11) |
Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." John 8:58 Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God. John 5:18 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 I could go on but you can check the context yourself. If you were a JW then you would say that he is "a" god as they interpret John 1:1 as:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God. If you're not I would seriously find resources that talk to both sides of the issue. However seeing your references to the name Jehovah, your defense of JW, and the putting down of churches sure does appear that you seem like a JW for sure. Following are quotes from the literature of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, better known as the Jehovah's Witnesses organization. After reading the quotes below, it is obvious that the Watchtower discourages individual thinking among the Jehovah's Witnesses and requires them to submit to the teaching of the Watchtower organization. Romans 14:5 says, "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind." The Bible wants us to think and to be convinced in our own minds about issues that are debatable (Rom. 14:1-12). However, the Watchtower does not want its people to be convinced in their own minds. It wants them to submit to the Watchtower. The Bible can only be understood via the Watchtower organization. Quote: "Only this organization functions for Jehovah's purpose and to his praise. To it alone God's Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book." The Watchtower; July 1, 1973, pp. 402. Comment: This is an amazing quote. Only the watchtower organization can properly interpret the Bible. It is saying that the Lord Jesus, through the Holy Spirit, cannot give a Christian a proper understanding of the Bible even though it is Jesus who opens the mind to understand Scripture (Luke 24:45). This effectively prevents the Jehovah's Witness from thinking and interpreting the Bible for himself apart from the watchtower organization's guidance. Individuals are not able to rightly interpret the Bible apart from the Watchtower organization. Quote: "Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible." The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967. p. 587. Comment: The Watchtower restricts its followers from looking at the Bible by itself without the guidance of the organization's input. This is not freedom to think for oneself and it is a sure way to keep the Jehovah's Witnesses intellectually in line with Watchtower teachings. Also, contrast the quote above with the following quote from the Watchtower: "The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible." The Watchtower, 7/1/1943, p. 201. The funny thing is that that is exactly what the Watchtower does. It claims to be the only source of true spiritual knowledge. If you don't understand something, meekly wait for the Watchtower to tell you what the truth is, otherwise you are foolish. Quote: "We should eat and digest and assimilate what is set before us, without shying away from parts of the food because it may not suit the fancy of our mental taste...We should meekly go along with the Lord's theocratic organization and wait for further clarification, rather than balk at the first mention of a thought unpalatable to us and proceed to quibble and mouth our criticisms and opinions as though they were worth more than the slave's provision of spiritual food. Theocratic ones will appreciate the Lord's visible organization and not be so foolish as to put against Jehovah's channel their own human reasoning and sentiment and personal feelings." The Watchtower, February 1, 1952, pp. 79-80. Comment: Here, the watchtower tells us that submission is to God's "theocratic organization", the watchtower organization and that submission must be complete and meek. Undoubtedly, this is clearly teaching that independent thought is not welcome in the Watchtower Organization. The Watchtower magazine is the means of God's communication Quote: "It should be expected that the Lord would have a means of communication to his people on the earth, and he has clearly shown that the magazine called The Watchtower is used for that purpose." (1939 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, p. 85.) Comment: This says that the Jehovah's Witness organization is the means God uses to communicate on earth today. But, the Bible says that God speaks to us through His Son: Heb. 1:1-2 says it is Jesus: "God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world." Cannot understand the Bible outside of watchtower organization Quote: "We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave' organization." (The Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981.) Comment: The Jehovah's Witness organization has set itself up as the sole means of understanding the Bible. In contrast to this, Jesus opens the mind to understand the scriptures (Luke 24:45). It isn't the Watchtower organization that does this, but God. Admittedly, we have denominational differences. But the differences are not in the essentials and we certainly are able to understand those essentials apart from the Watchtower. See the article on the "faithful and discreet slave," for clarification on this issue. Those who think apart from the Watchtower's guidance are like Satan Quote: "From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those, who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such ‘Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..." The Watchtower, August 15, 1981. Comment: So, if you think independently, find fault with something the Watchtower says, then you are like Satan. Is this freedom of thought? Is this how Christ works in the church? Hardly. Also, what are the apostate doctrines spoken of in the above quote? Of course, that would be the Trinity, the deity of Christ and the Holy Spirit, the physical resurrection of Christ, etc., all things the Watchtower organization denies. So, if you read the Bible by itself, reading it for what it says, without the watchtower guiding you, you will adopt these doctrines -- which the Watchtower says are not true! If you love God, then you accept the Watchtower. Quote: "We cannot claim to love God, yet deny his word and channel of communication." The Watchtower, October 1, 1967, p. 591. Comment: In other words, if you love God then you will be "in" the watchtower organization. If you reject the organization, then you reject God. Amazing! So, the Jehovah's Witness is urged to not leave the organization lest they end up rejecting God. Is this encouraging freedom on thought? No. The truth of God can be known only through the Watchtower organization. Quote: All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave. The Watchtower; 10/1/1994; p. 8. Comment: Here, the Watchtower states that the only way to understand God's word is through the Watchtower organization. In other words, your thinking must be in submission to the teaching of the Watchtower. These few quotes should be more than adequate to demonstrate that the Watchtower not only maintains a control over the thinking of its adherents, but actually discourages independent thought. This is definitely one of the signs of a cult. Regarding money you better read: http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/donations.html A further point is that 6 million JWs donate their time to distribute WTS publications door to door in what is called “field service” or “witnessing” or “ministry”. This activity is said to be “voluntary” but the teaching is that JWs who don’t do it will be executed by God at Armageddon. JWs who regularly miss field service for entire months also face ostracism in their congregation and - if they try to justify their slackness - excommunication. Despite WTS writers often implying that the main source of funding is “contribution boxes” in Kingdom Halls, most comes from the efforts of six million JWs who trudge the streets and knock on doors to offer WTS literature. Furthermore, these same JWs are obliged to buy personal copies of all magazines and books the WTS puts out. The WTS has millions of captive buyers expected to purchase the publications without even looking at the contents! I'm having an extremely hard time believing that you are not a JW with all the defense of them. It may be from total misinformation which they will be more than happy to give you. If you really want to "independently study" then examine all the information from both sides. M | ||
| Anonymous (208.24.179.11) |
In the Watchtower publications ALL SCRIPTURE IS INSPIRED OF GOD & BENEFICIAL p. 327 it states: "Note what Hebrew and Greek scholar Alexander Thomson has to say in his review of the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION: "The translation is evidently the work of skilled and clever scholars," THE DIFFERENTIATOR, April 1952. This sentence is another WATCHTOWER lie. The late Mr. Alexander Thomson was not a Greek or Hebrew Scholar. He in fact did not even formally study Greek or Hebrew in any school according to his co-editor Dr. Frank Neil Pohorlak of Inglewood, CA. Mr. Thomson was employed in a bank in Scotland and did not believe that Jesus was God. WHAT DO GREEK SCHOLARS THINK ABOUT THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS TRANSLATION OF JOHN 1:1? Dr. Julius R. Mantey: Calls the Watchtower translation of John 1:1 "A GROSSLY MISLEADING TRANSLATION." It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 `the Word was a god." But of all the scholars in the world, so far as we know, none have translated this verse as Jehovah's Witnesses have done." Bruce M. Metzger, Professor of New Testament Language and literature at Princeton Theological Seminary said: "Far more pernicious in this same verse is the rendering,... `and the Word was a god,' with the following footnotes:"`A god,' In contrast with `the God'." It must be stated quite frankly that, if the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists. In view of the additional light which is available during this age of Grace, such a representation is even more reprehensible than were the heathenish, polytheistic errors into which ancient Israel was so prone to fall. As a matter of solid fact, however, such a rendering is a frightful mistranslation." - THEOLOGY TODAY April, 1953 Dr. J. J. Griesback: "So numerous and clear are the arguments and testimonies of Scriptures in favor of the true Diety of Christ, that I can hardly imagine how, upon the admission of the Divine authority of Scripture, and with regard to fair rules of interpretation, this doctrine can by any man be called in doubt. Especially the passage John 1:1 is so clear and so superior to all exception, that by no daring efforts of either commentators or critics can it be snatched out of the hands of the defenders of the truth." Dr. Eugene A. Nida (Head of the Translation Department of the American Bible Society Translators of the GOOD NEWS BIBLE): "With regard to John 1:1 there is, of course, a complication simply because the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION was apparently done by persons who did not take seriously the syntax of the Greek." Dr. William Barclay (University of Glasgow, Scotland): "The deliberate distortion of truth by this sect is seen in their New Testament translations. John 1:1 is translated: `...the Word was a god', a translation which is GRAMMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. It is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest." - THE EXPOSITORY TIMES Nov. 1953 Dr. B. F. Westcott (Whose Greek text is used in JW KINGDOM INTERLINEAR): "The predicate (God) stands emphatically first, as in John 4:24. It is necessarily without the article...No idea of inferiority of nature is suggested by the form of expression, which simply affirms the true Diety of the Word...in the third clause `the Word' is declared to be `God' and so included in the unity of the Godhead." Dr. Ernest C. Colwell (University of Chicago): "A definite predicate nominative has the article when it follows the verb; it does not have the article when it precedes the verb;...this statement cannot be regarded as strange in the prologue of the gospel which reaches its climax in the confession of Thomas. `My Lord and my God.'" John 20:28 Dr. F. F. Bruce (University of Manchester, England): "Much is made by Arian amateur grammarians of the omission of the definite article with `God' in the phrase `And the Word was God.' Such an omission is common with nouns in a predicate construction. `a god' would be totally indefensible." Dr. Paul L. Kaufman (Portland, OR.): "The Jehovah's Witness people evidence an abysmal ignorance of the basic tenets of Greek grammar in their mistranslation of John 1:1." Dr. Charles L. Feinberg (La Mirada CA.): "I can assure you that the rendering which the Jehovah's Witnesses give John 1:1 is not held by any reputable Greek Scholar." Dr. Harry A. Sturz: (Dr. Sturz is Chairman of the Language Department and Professor of Greek at Biola College) "Therefore, the NWT rendering: "the Word was a god" is not a "literal" but an ungrammatical and tendential translation. A literal translation in English can be nothing other than: "the Word was God." - THE BIBLE COLLECTOR July-December, 1971 p.12 | ||
| Anonymous (208.24.179.11) |
Jesus He is the creator (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17). He is uncreated (John 1:1-3; Col. 1:15-17). He is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; 8:58 with Exodus 3:14; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:8). His Incarnation and His deity Hypostatic Union - Jesus has two natures in one person. He was not half God and half man. He is both Human and Divine. He was completely God and completely man. This is the correct position concerning His two natures. See Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14. Jesus will remain as both God and man for eternity. Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (Matt. 1:18; Luke 1:35). "He was born under the Law (Gal. 4:4) and fulfilled all of the Law of God (John 4:34 ; 8:29), even to the point of death (Phil. 2:8). In His death He bore the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us (Gal. 3:13). Thus in the death of Christ the sins of His people were judged (Rom. 3:23-26) and forgotten (Heb. 8:12), and the result of His act of righteousness was eternal life (Rom. 5:18). Jesus is worshiped - (Matt. 2:2,11; 14:33; John 9:35-38; Heb. 1:6). Jesus is prayed to - (Acts 7:55-60; Psalm 116:4 and Zech. 13:9 with 1 Cor. 1:1-2). Jesus is called God - (John 20:28; Heb. 1:8). He is the exact representation of the nature of God (Heb. 1:3). His death and the atonement Jesus bore the sins of the world (1 John 2:2) in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24). He was a propitiation, a satisfaction to God that appeased God's wrath. He atoned. He made right that which was wrong between us and God. His shed blood is what cleanses us from sin (Lev. 17:11; Heb. 9:22; Rom. 5:9; 1 John 1:7-9). He removed the enmity between God and Man (Rom. 5:10). For whom did He die? - Some say for the sheep (Christians) only (John 10:11,15). The Sheep are the Christians. The Goats are the non-Christians (Matt. 25:32-46). Others say He died for everyone (1 John 2:2). Each side has good arguments. The Resurrection of Christ (John 2:19-21; 1 Cor. 15:1-4). Jesus rose in the same body that He died in (John 2:19-21; Luke 24:36-43). Jesus' body is ‘resurrected.' We do not know exactly what His body is like, but the nature of the resurrected body is discussed by Paul in 1 Cor. 15:35-58. Right now Jesus is in heaven, still as, and eternally to be both God and man (1 Tim. 2:5; Col. 2:9). This is important because Jesus is the High Priest forever: "where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek,” (Heb. 6:20). A spirit cannot be a high priest, only a man can do that. Furthermore, Jesus always lives to make intercession for us "Hence, also, He is able to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them," (Heb. 7:25). The Ascension of Christ (Acts 1:1-11.). After the resurrection Jesus appeared to His disciples during a period of forty days. He completed His message to them then. In light of the cloud in the O.T. (Exodus 40:34; 1 Kings 8:10f.; Luke 9:34f.) as a manifestation of God's glory and presence, we have the necessary expectation of His glorious ascension. He ascended in full view of the apostles who wrote of what they saw. The Doctrine of the Deity of Christ is opposed to: Docetism - Jesus was truly spirit and only appeared to be a man. Gnosticism - Jesus was only a man taken over by the heavenly Christ which never became incarnate. The heavenly Christ returned to heaven before the crucifixion. Arianism - Jesus was created slightly lower than God. Then Jesus created all things. The Hypostatic Union (Jesus having two natures in one person) is opposed to: Kenosis - Jesus lessened Himself in the incarnation, i.e., God minus something. Eutychianism - The two natures of Jesus are completely ‘mixed' and indiscernible. Nestorianism - The two natures are not in contact with each other and that Jesus was two persons. Monophysitism - The two natures combined and became one, a new type of being. (Then Jesus would be neither God nor man, but a third something.) | ||
| Anonymous (208.24.179.11) |
The Deity of Christ Jesus is God in flesh (John 8:58 with Exodus 3:14). See also John 1:1,14; 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:8 1 John 4:2-3: "This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." The above verse needs to be cross referenced with John 1:1,14 (also written by John) where he states that the Word was God and the Word became flesh. 1 John 4:2-3 is saying that if you deny that Jesus is God in flesh then you are of the spirit of Antichrist. John 8:24, "I said, therefore, to you, that you will die in your sins. For if you do not believe that I am, you will die in your sins." Jesus said here that if you do not believe "that I am" you will die in your sins. In Greek I am is 'ego eimi,' which means ‘I am.' These are the same words used in John 8:58 where Jesus says "...before Abraham was, I am." He was claiming the divine title by quoting Exodus 3:14 in the Greek Septuagint. (The Septuagint was the Hebrew Old Testament translated into Greek.) | ||
| Anonymous (208.24.179.11) |
Here is a good comparison for you: http://www.carm.org/doctrine/Jesusisgod.htm It's a comparison of GOD, "YAHWEH" and Jesus | ||
| freddie gobble (64.12.116.66) |
i am looking for pictures of a beautiful woman that aired on dateline, her name is karen robinoux. her story was she was in a false religion and she lost her child to starvation because her husband refused to let her feed her child. i would like any information i can get on her because i believe her story. she couldnt feed her child and i would like to contact her. please help, i think she got dealt a wrong hand! | ||
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