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matthew_wadsworth
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Username: matthew_wadsworth
Post Number: 89
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 206.174.0.146
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 7:59 pm: | 
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Recently I was reading about Mussolini, you know the dictator of Italy during World War II. I found it interesting some of the things said about him. Here are a few examples.
1. At meetings he would allow no minutes to be taken so that what was said in government meetings stayed in government meetings.
2. He demanded full control and loyalty to himself personally. He used a combination of intimidation and/or rewards to insure obedience in his followers.
3. Slogans were posted all over Italy with his face on them that said in Italian "Mussolini is always right"
4. He felt he had a divine mission to fight the forces of communism, liberalism, and democracy.
5. He held others to standards that he himself did not adhere to.
6. The fact that the government was based upon his personality, there was great confusion and ineffeciency as various ministers of the government would TRY TO APPROACH HIM LATE IN THE DAY TO GET APPROVAL FOR THEIR POLICIES only to have him give a contradictory order to another minster later because he didn't remember what he told the first one.
7. Every major decision had to be approved by Mussolini personally.
8. His son-in-law Count Ciano was the foreign minister and was basically Mussolini's second in command.
9. He put a sign that said "Green side up" around his office (ok just kidding on that one  )
10. While having dreams of grandure and empire, in actuality Italy was a second rate power.
11. He refused to take advice from his generals and ministers, which led to ghastly mistakes time and again.
I could go on, but I think you get the point  |
chief
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Username: chief
Post Number: 22
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 75.104.192.59
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 2:20 am: |
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11. He refused to take advice from his generals and ministers, which led to ghastly mistakes time and again.
That my friend; tells it all. That is why the split happened and that is why people leave so regularly. Once again he refused to take advice from his generals and ministers. Pastors in the NTCC knew what Dennis was up to but they were AFRAID to tell Pastor Davis. And I am talking about Ministers that stayed after the split. Pastor Davis had put so much fear in his Ministers that they deliberately neglected to warn him of Dennis's double cross and I know this for a fact. Three different ministers that I know, all seasoned, one of which is an overseer had problems with Dennis but RWD would not have admitted the truth. One that I know of knew of the split before it ever took place. That in my book, is the poorest leadership that can exist within a unit. Premeditated mutiny that went off successfully because your friends didn't warn you when they knew in advance it was going to happen. I would not have ever wanted the leaders that I had authority over in my platoon or company to have ever let me down like that; but that is what you get when you foster that type of environment. Self destruction is the phrase that describes it all.
Oh but don’t listen to me. What does an old prideful soldier know? A whole lot more about leadership than the majority of the leaders in the NTCC and I know this because for 20 years in the military I learned what it took to be a good leader and I have seen very few in the NTCC. The ones that lack good leadership fail miserably. I know the difference. If half of the soldiers in my company complained to the BC and wanted to leave; buddy I would have had a problem. Oh but everyone that left the NTCC didn’t want to serve GOD? What a bunch of junk. You can get a lot of these yes man Pastors to believe that but not someone with good sense. This is my chance to have a bully pulpit and if any NTCC Pastor decides to read this; “If the shoe fits wear it”. You know what I am saying is true. I love it because it is true; every word. The worst style of leader in the military is an authoritarian. It is taught in the military leadership schools and can be plainly understood by most; even without the teaching.
Moses took his father-in-law’s advice. The leaders in the NTCC wouldn’t. They would say that by the hand of God did I deliver the Israelites. Old man you are to full of pride to even consider making a suggestion to me. That is not what Moses said. He stopped judging the entire tribe of Israel by himself.
That is why Pastor Davis got double crossed. The ministers under him were afraid that if they blew the whistle on Dennis, they would be accused of jealousy so therefore they kept their mouth shut. I also know this for a fact. You do not have to be classified as jealous or prideful simply because you testify truthfully to what you have witnessed. And I am not talking about rookie ministers either. And I am also not talking about the ones that left; some are still in the NTCC. Loyalty and character isn’t just staying but standing up for what is right regardless of the consequences. That is what Mordecai displayed, strength and character. I wish so much that somehow this very post could get to RWD. What I am stating is factual. Amen. God knows.
Chief. |
tracypelfrey
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Username: tracypelfrey
Post Number: 95
Registered: 12-2007
Posted From: 69.208.5.151
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 6:44 am: |
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"That is why Pastor Davis got double crossed. The ministers under him were afraid that if they blew the whistle on Dennis, they would be accused of jealousy so therefore they kept their mouth shut."
MANY DID NOT KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT...but Davis shut it for them when they spoke up. They were treated like doo-doo for speaking up. They were not believed. Denis was "backed up" all the more.
Tracy |
chief
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Username: chief
Post Number: 23
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 75.104.192.58
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:02 am: |
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Oh sure, I don't doubt that happened at all. That is why the ministers that I am referring to kept their mouths shut. Because they didn't want to be treated poorly and I know this to be a fact. What you are saying is backed by my statements and visa versa. Once again; an indicator of poor leadership. Good leadership welcomes information such as that, and you certainly won’t be treated poorly because you gave it.
That is why in the military, the OPEN DOOR policy exists. No open door policy in the NTCC and if it does exist, the leadership doesn’t want to hear or truly consider what you have to say anyway because they would figure out that they are wrong. This is what I have encountered so many times.
Once again HE REFUSED TO TAKE ADVICE from his generals and ministers.
I never stated that advice was not given at all; I stated that some deliberately held information back, which is true.
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waitingtoexhale
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Username: waitingtoexhale
Post Number: 17
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 67.9.98.56
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:18 am: |
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The OPEN DOOR policy is:" if you don't like it....then..." |
chief
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Username: chief
Post Number: 24
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 75.104.192.38
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:22 am: |
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The OPEN DOOR policy is:" if you don't like it....then..."
Isn't that the truth. That is so true that it is almost funny but it really is sad. |
dtaylor
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Username: dtaylor
Post Number: 12
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 71.197.255.52
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:30 am: |
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"That is why Pastor Davis got double crossed. The ministers under him were afraid that if they blew the whistle on Dennis, they would be accused of jealousy so therefore they kept their mouth shut."
Tracy,
I found this to be very true in many other cases besides "The Dennis incident." I think that's why so many people have kept their mouth shut about much that is coming out now. They have been afraid that they would be accused of being jealous and so forth. I appreciate reading all the stories of the different ministers that have left and have the courage to post. I know many that won't post but feel the same way. |
matthew_wadsworth
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Username: matthew_wadsworth
Post Number: 91
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 206.174.0.146
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 2:23 pm: |
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Mussolini also had his overseers er um I mean his Facist Blackshirt squads to go and intimidate ah I mean restore those who had wandered off the staight and narrow. I thought I'd throw that tid bit of history in too ;) |