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     bro_derrick Senior Member Username: bro_derrick Post Number: 2011 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 75.196.111.76 |
Feel free to add any details you may know of, but this is my sketch of what we all knew by what he would tell us and saw for ourselves: 1) Go-getter Grocery boy in small hometown, NC store. 2) Army Air Corps (1 Tour) 3) Go-getter in door-to-door sales. Quit because his Jewish boss wanted him to do something 'unethical'. 4) Tenured worker in local factory with Cadillac, wife, house, etc... AND known for much cursing. 5) Gotten out to Baptist church by persistent 'invitations'. So finally went to get them off-his-back. Prayed for salvation. 6) Always trying to get off early for church at factory. 7) Started preaching at Baptist Church. 8) Got the Holy Ghost baptism and went with Pentecosts. 9) Started store-front Pentecostal church (Went into debt for it) 10) Started evangelism field with Pentecostal Organization (Got out of debt by it) 11) Took over local Pentecostal church and preached Organizational holiness to 'compromising' group. Went full-time and got his Cadillac back. 12) Went to Phillipines missions. Head of Bible College there. Preached to a 'first-time' village across a mountain. 13) Returned to U.s. 'Heart-troubles' miraculalously healed in wife's old church in Arkansas, so could preach again. 14) Got out of 'compromising' Pentecostal Organization, where Leadership women showed up in pants. 15) Started Bible College at God's direction. 16) Formed Organization NTCC out of graduates without God's prior-direction. | ||
| rls Junior Member Username: rls Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
Sounds about right about the boy off of "cottonmill hill." | ||
| bro_derrick Senior Member Username: bro_derrick Post Number: 2012 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 75.196.111.76 |
Now for some filler and interpretation as I see that it applies to building cults rather than being called of God into the ministry of Christ. 1) Davis was always a go-getter for business. (Good) 2) Davis loved flying but could not go officer to fly, because of no college from poorer class upbringing. (Too bad) 3) Hitting it big in Sales Business but quit. (Good, then Bad) 4) Stuck in factory job for life, though paid enough for basics of American Dream. (Good for many but Bad for him) 5) Getting worse in sin and cursing bitterness due to unfulfilled business prospects in American life. (Bad) 6) Prays for salvation at a church by the 'get-em-out-to-church' mentality of evangelism. (Good but also Bad) 7) Has new hopes in life as a Christian and sees more prospects for renewing business endeavors by faith of Jesus. (Very Good!) 8) Guilt-tripped into preaching by 'giving-in' to God's reminder that Davis has said he would do whatever God wanted: "But you said..." (Very Bad!) Here is the very wrong turn that Davis (and many others to one degree or another) made as a Christian and began his CERTAIN trip into becoming a church-building, personal cult-leader. | ||
| bro_derrick Senior Member Username: bro_derrick Post Number: 2014 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 75.196.111.76 |
God does NOT guilt-trip nor COMPEL any believer of His to commit to His ministry. a) Even as Christians do not give anything of necessity, so it includes the giving of oneself to any service of others for Jesus' sake. Nothing of Jesus' calling in His ministry is of necessity. Men make mandates for themselves and others based on a false vision of a COMPULSARY service to God, NOT God. b) The gifts and callings of God are without repentance does NOT mean that if God is calling His believer into His ministry of service (As some man may be trying to tell you!), that you MUST do it, or else! But rather God's calling is easily entreated: a labor of love for which there is no need of repentance, because there is no COMPULSARY side to it: It's not a HAVE-TO thing, that anyone need REPENT of for NOT doing! Calvin was guilt-tripped into staying in Geneva and came up with the great error of Predestination, and Davis guilt-tripped HIMSELF into the ministry and has come up with a another great error of the church-building business by the soulwinning program! Calvin should have gone on by GOD's leading to study more, and Davis should have gone on to be a good Christian businessman among others in America and around the world, and to learn more of Jesus, His doctrine, and His way of prosperity, good health, and the soul's growth in grace and knowledge of the Lord! c) Paul did not declare 'Woe unto me if I preach not...', but rather 'Woe unto me if I preach not THE GOSPEL.' If ANYONE is going to preach (And any believer may!), it had better be the gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Scriptures, else woe unto you for preaching ANOTHER Gospel, and you will be judged for defiling the Lord's temple (1 Cor 3). d) Preaching in assembly does NOT require a calling to COMMIT oneself to it. It is EVERY BELIEVER's right and privilege by virtue of Birth to preach Jesus and Him crucified: 'And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.' (Rev 19:10) The idea that only 'special' Christians with their anointings and callings may preach and speak in assembly is what leads to their own idolization... Scripture does not teach 'single speaker' dominated assemblies of the saints from the greatly-called preacher's pulpit. It is rather a common assembly of equals in the faith, where ALL may speak by the Spirit to the edification of the others: 'If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.' (1 Cor 14:30-31) And those that are called to that very thing of prayer and ministry of the Word-- elders who have already proven their faith and freely left behind their prosperous business-- are given the double-honor of speaking without interruption, yet without hogging the show: 'Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.' (1 Cor 14:29) So the current Christian tradition of pulpit-centered assemblies inevitably leads toward a dominion of knowledge over the saints and wrongful idolization of certain lords thereby. Thus great Leading speakers are worshipped as angels of light over the rest of us (poor non-speaking slobs) of the flock (!) | ||
| bro_derrick Senior Member Username: bro_derrick Post Number: 2015 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 75.196.111.76 |
The call to commit to preaching is from among an assembly of equal-speakers, NOT to preach over an assembly of non-speaking Christians. They who are listeners-only will inevitably become hearers-only of what their speakers have to say, no longer even hearing what Jesus has to say in what is written! | ||
| leftin1991 Intermediate Member Username: leftin1991 Post Number: 478 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 72.24.207.240 |
After divorcing his first wife he moved to St. Louis and the Baptist church he began attending was the General Baptist Church (similar to Free-Will Baptist, the kind that don't believe in "Once Saved-Always Saved"). The first service he went to was a foot washing. After his conversion he continued smoking cigarettes, even after becoming a minister with them, but stopped smoking after he found the Pentecostals and received the gift of tongues. He had to turn to the Pentecostal Church of God of America (Joplin, Mo.) to establish his credentials as a minister because 50 years ago they were the only Pentecostal denomination that in certain cases would license/ordain a 'double-married' minister, that is, a divorced man with two living wives. For this dubious distinction the PCG was referred to by their sister denominations as, "The Trash Can of Pentecost." | ||
| pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1043 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.217.164.78 |
Davis never speaks about his mother. He only mentions her obliquely, indicating that his childhood was marked by confusion about her behavior, which his father justified simply by saying, "She's sick." I have wondered about this... | ||
| chris_fears New member Username: chris_fears Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2008 Posted From: 96.230.206.254 |
Scuse me, off topic i am. Pelf, do you still talk to Shchaub? He tried to contact me before I left; I wanted to but did not. Now of course I would like to say Hi. And can't. You can give him my e-mail if you want. cwfears@hotmail.com Thanks | ||
| tracypelfrey Member Username: tracypelfrey Post Number: 84 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 69.208.5.30 |
He's in an area right now where he cannot get a signal for the internet...it comes and goes as it pleases. I'll pass along your address to the Schaubs. Tracy | ||
| pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1044 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.214.102.103 |
Chris, I think John is probably reading this. I tried to send you a personal greeting but it failed to go through. Anyway...hi. | ||
| odashiman Member Username: odashiman Post Number: 84 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.14.94.156 |
Personally, I think everything WMDavis says is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. ...And that. I mean, how do we even know the things we've heard about him are true, if we can't trust the words that escape from his filty pie-hole? But a more appropriate question is: Do we really care? I only care about being true to myself and my own faith in Jesus Christ. No matter what WMDavis and people like him do to tredge the name of Jesus through the dirt, we cannot allow people like him to cause our faith to waiver. God bless you, my friends. | ||
| rls Member Username: rls Post Number: 55 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
For all I know RWD is lying like a rug on most accounts. His military service would be pubic information if you have enough information to request it. | ||
| rls Member Username: rls Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
For all I know RWD is lying like a rug on most accounts. His military service would be pubic information if you have enough information to request it. | ||
| odashiman Member Username: odashiman Post Number: 85 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.14.94.156 |
I think that's why he doesn't like people having information about him: he's scared completely stupid about a background investigation. | ||
| rls Member Username: rls Post Number: 58 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
Anybody have enough money to launch one? This could get interesting. |
