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     pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1014 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.128.14.133 |
When you are a young and flexible inductee, freshly recruited into the ranks of 2x4 ntcc church membership, your mind races with questions concerning the doctrines and practices of the church, most of which your peers are unwilling to answer, since they have been trained to refer you to the pastor only. Upon opening up any given subject with your pastor, you will find him mildly taciturn. He will deflect your question with a studied and patient silence, smiling benignly as you shuffle uncomfortably in disapointment. The first thing you teach yourself to do, in order to accept this evasion, is to see it as a kind of advanced spirituality, oddly reminiscent of the Shaolin wisdom dispensed in kung-fu films. It seems cool and a bit elevated, so you learn to see this behavior as normal, and to trust that your answer will come in some manner un-looked for. As you become a more experienced member of the group, you learn (almost by osmosis) that the questions you asked in the beginning were merely an opportunity for your loyalty to be tested. You were given a silent choice: a) assume that your pastor is correct without his having to explain himself, or b) leave the church and have your character and motives attacked from the pulpit. The silent non-answer was merely an invitation to either submit completely to pastoral authority, or GET OUT. You realize that the problem all along was not the strange doctrine or habit of the church; the problem was YOU. You were a potential rebel simply because you had a question. You are the problem. After all, if you were not a rebel and a God-hater, why would you ask questions? Later, when you leave the church in frustration, you might ask over your shoulder, "Why was it wrong to do 'X'?" to which the answer, offered as a self-evident fact of nature, will be "Why did you WANT to?" The problem is always YOU. | ||
| charger Junior Member Username: charger Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.32.36.197 |
Don't forget the often repeated, "What is right with it." What is wrong with me growing a beard? Response, "What is right with it." What's wrong with wearing a necklace or a bracelet. Response, "Whats right with it." This answering of a question with a question is an attemt to shut you up. | ||
| charger Junior Member Username: charger Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.32.36.197 |
Don't forget the often repeated, "What is right with it." What is wrong with me growing a beard? Response, "What is right with it." What's wrong with wearing a necklace or a bracelet. Response, "Whats right with it." This answering of a question with a question is an attemt to shut you up. | ||
| clearwater Junior Member Username: clearwater Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 67.183.231.124 |
Hilarious!!!!!!!! ".....a kind of advanced spirtuality, oddly reminiscent of the Shaolin wisdom dispensed in kung fu movies" LOL. Are you saying the brethren all but prostrated themselves crying "MAAASTER!!!!" in broken english? | ||
| pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1015 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.128.215.60 |
"Look at the moon..." | ||
| nbrown New member Username: nbrown Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.39.121.221 |
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| charger Junior Member Username: charger Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.32.36.197 |
Nbrown. Are you married to Steve. If you are who I think, then we know you from Kansas. I guess in restrospect I remeber hearing that you guys left. | ||
| mark_g New member Username: mark_g Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 72.201.122.179 |
"So......You are the new student"....."Come Closer". "But Master......You can not see". Of all things to live in darkness must be the worst" "Fear is the only darkness". Strike me with your broom."(young Cain hesitates)"Go on....do as I tell you"!....."STRIKE"!!!!! "Again"!!!!!!!!(Master Po takes the broom away from young Cain) "Here, Catch"!!!!!! The moral of the story. Never assume because a man has no eyes that he can not see. I think I could have learned more(a lot more) from Master Po and Master Kahn than I did at NTCC. | ||
| nbrown New member Username: nbrown Post Number: 10 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.34.194.135 |
charger - I'm not married to a steve. I won't mention his name because he doesn't want anything to do with anything. This is just my little place to vent. It seems like you left recently. I hope everything goes well for you. | ||
| pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1019 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.128.201.73 |
Master Po's most sage advice: "Time...for you to leave." | ||
| rls Junior Member Username: rls Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
One thing I have learned that is different from NTCC, (among other things), is that a pastor is open to questions where a new convert is wanting to learn something. Also, referring a new convert to fellow Christians is practised in many congregations, unlike in NTCC. Why is that? Because fellow Christians mature in the faith enough to tutor a new convert is the rule rather than the exception as it is in NTCC. | ||
| clearwater Junior Member Username: clearwater Post Number: 43 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 24.17.248.210 |
This thread was about Kung Fu right? meet me in the back!!! www.//i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/Csocha07/1a.jpg | ||
| clearwater Junior Member Username: clearwater Post Number: 44 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 24.17.248.210 |
This thread was about Kung Fu right? Meet me in the back!! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/Csocha07/1a.jpg | ||
| rls Junior Member Username: rls Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
Hmmm...I have 9mm remedy for that.  | ||
| mark_g New member Username: mark_g Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 72.201.122.179 |
Master Po's most sage advice: "Time...for you to leave." That was Master Kahn. You're going to have to go in the back room and practice your Kung Fu. | ||
| clearwater Junior Member Username: clearwater Post Number: 45 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 24.17.248.210 |
"Hmmm.....I have a 9mm remedy for that" You obviously know nothing about a good kung fu movie. Handguns, missles and bombs are no account to "Dragons Claw" (LOL) |
