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greg_s Intermediate Member Username: greg_s
Post Number: 347 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 205.188.117.202
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TITLE: “Rules For Leaving” Some milk in a sippy cup. (Drafted 27-29 March 2006) WHY RELEVANT: This page is relevant based on the following two questions with provided answers: QUESTION #1: Is NTCC a Christian Church? ANSWER: Many ExNTCC’rs say yes. (If you would want to eventually disallow NTCC from being a part of the body of Christ the second question still keeps this post relevant.) QUESTION #2: Are ExNTCC’rs Christians? ANSWER: ExNTCC says yes. IMPORTANT FACT: A Christian does not allow the liberal exegete or the non-Christian to define what Christianity and/or Christians are. WARNING: This post consists entirely of code. This is according to the ExNTCC definition of code. The ExNTCC definition of code is as follows: Anything said that they don’t like. This, coincidentally, is also how ExNTCC establishes what is an extra-Biblical rule or doctrine. So read carefully, or not, your choice. We are also sure you have noticed that the ExNTCC position may be summed up by the following word: Opposition. Opposing/contradicting themselves and the part of the Body of Christ that is our Christian Church and God. ExNTCC stands for anything and everything our Christian Church does not stand for. Just so you don’t intentionally misunderstand when we say “what our Christian Church doesn’t stand for” we mean ExNTCC’s stand (i.e. no money, no rules, no love) is being for all the extra-Biblical junk our Christian Church doesn’t put up with; which is also why our Christian Church is where it is ( http://www.newtestamentchristianChurches.org/, http://goodnewsatntcc.blogspot.com/, http://achristianbrother.blogspot.com/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntcc) and why ExNTCC is where they are on the internet. (Hosting the Christian Church we attend on a Cults web site, anti-Christian Church weblogs and an anti-Christian Church support group [there were two ExNTCC sponsored anti-Christian Church support groups directed against our Christian Church but the kinder and gentler one went out of business. Only the more vociferous one remains.]) Our Christian Churches official presence on the internet is positive while our Christian Churches adversary’s official presence on the internet is negative. Yet we both claim to be part of the Body of Christ. We can’t both be right. Throughout this piece we refer to Pastor Davis as Brother Davis. This is done to keep ExNTCC from being distracted by their stated abhorrence of the title Pastor. “RULES FOR LEAVING” CONTINUED BELOW… |
   
rls Junior Member Username: rls
Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137
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My opinion is that while many are Christian who are in NTCC, there are cult control practises being used in NTCC. Therefore you have to ask yourself Greg_S, "What practises do you engage in that glorifies God according to His Word?" There are others out there who have similar problems, so NTCC isn't alone in this, but they are definitely in the light so to speak and being examined by those others on the outside. And, why is it sir that so many people are leaving your organization? (You are in NTCC?) And, from all apperances, apparently moreso than most other Christian organizations. There are many who desire not to attend church, because they have been spiritually, emotionally, and some even physically and many fiscally hurt, Greg_S, including people who were in NTCC. Greg_S, a true accounting is coming up. Pray that you are not found supporting a wolf among God's flocks. |
   
ntcctruth Junior Member Username: ntcctruth
Post Number: 30 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 70.102.118.90
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QUESTION #1: Is NTCC a Christian Church? ANSWER: Many ExNTCC’rs say yes. (If you would want to eventually disallow NTCC from being a part of the body of Christ the second question still keeps this post relevant.) QUESTION #2: Are ExNTCC’rs Christians? ANSWER: ExNTCC says yes. ---------------------------------------------- Answer #1: The answer starts in the form of a question: Who is the church? The way the question is framed, it implies that the ORG is the church. That is not correct. The church is the Body of Christ - the born-again believers who belong to Christ, not Davis. There are many individual Christians in NTCC that are part of that Body. The abhorrance is not towards Christ's Body but towards those who, with evil motives that are very subtle, treat Christ's sheep as assets that are to be conquered, controlled, manipulated, plundered, used, abused, gathered, sent, and spent for their own gain (Davis and Kekel). Make no mistake about it. The org is a family business. Everything that goes on in NTCC is controlled by Davis (not God) and exists for the furtherance of the Davis's and Kekel's prosperity. Answer #2: Some yes, some no. Many trusting and naive souls have been let down and some of them couldn't handle it so they've burned out on anything that resembles organized church and God. Davis and Kekel will have to answer for that. Any soul that stays in NTCC will find themselves obligated to purpose themselves to a man's whim and if they dare exercise their individual liberties/leadings of Christ, then they are attacked, ridiculed, and marginalized. Any soul that dares question the unbiblical ways of Davis and Kekel will be attacked. I was one of them. Many others also. I refuse to support modern day Pharisees (ntcceees) like Davis and Kekel. I hope and pray for everyone within NTCC that they find the courage to follow God by the Holy Ghost even if it is contrary to Davis's wishes. Remember, it's Davis's own words that condemn him and he'll tell you that God will tell him before he'll tell you, he knows God's will, etc, etc... Since when does Davis have the authority to stand between God and us? Is he our priest or is Jesus our priest? I thought we were all kings and priests unto Christ - not priests over each other. It's the latter that I protest and I submit unto any person on this forum that any man that exalts himself in that way is anti-christ by definition of the Word. God hasn't called anyone to lord over His heritage and anyone that does is antichrist by definition of the Word. } Marc Perez |
   
rls Junior Member Username: rls
Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:13 am: |
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Excellent points Marc. |
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