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     granite Intermediate Member Username: granite Post Number: 223 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.24.207.240 |
A number of people in times past have not had an easy time obtaining a transcript from NTCS. Are these currently sent out routinely? What is the procedure for obtaining an NTCS transcript, or having a transcript sent to a requesting school, and what is the fee? (with the assumption being that if a fee can possibly charged, they will most certainly do so). N.B. - Even though NTCS is a nonaccredited institution, some colleges may offer to grant what is referred to as a "life experience" type of credit for such courses, if a transcript of such is provided. | ||
| nbrown New member Username: nbrown Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 71.214.26.201 |
That was the other weird thing about it - you never got grades or transcripts. And nobody questioned it. Someone once asked me when I was attending there if I was getting good grades (they were obviously thinking of a traditional normal school) and I said I think so, just to cover up the fact I had no idea and I felt kind of dumb about that. Many times when I or someone around me would ask davis or olsen or someone in the office a logical question, they had this way of looking at you with a blank stare like Are you stupid? And they would just look at you or ignore you until you gave up andwent away. If someone attends this place, be prepared for some serious head games. Now that I'm older I know not to put up with stuff like that and to keep asking questions until they are answered. And not to be intimidated into not asking questions. Your comment about a possibility of a life experience credit is interesting... I've never heard of that. I'm currently working on enrolling in a community college .... I guess it all depends on "Do I want to discuss this with this person I've never met before or do I just sic-em-on-si and pass it on by" - hee hee. I have never heard of anyone getting their transcripts or grades. | ||
| victorjohanson New member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.223.233.130 |
Back in earlier times (early 80s), we did get grades; they were a little slip of paper with the class name and a letter grade. I remember having to assign grades when I was a teacher in about 1993, but I don't believe we gave out anything on paper, although I would tell any student who asked. It's totally fly by night. | ||
| pelfdaddy Advanced Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 995 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.217.146.69 |
I gave everyone an A | ||
| victorjohanson New member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.223.233.130 |
"I gave everyone an A" Anyone who put up with the crap at NTCC deserved it. | ||
| odashiman Member Username: odashiman Post Number: 80 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.14.94.156 |
Hey everyone! I know of some religious-based colleges that offer credit for "life experience". They mostly give credit for being a pastor of a church (as opposed to being a bible study or small-group leader). Though, come to think of it, given our experiences, we could probably audit their "modern cults" course. God bless you, everybody. Dave | ||
| victorjohanson Junior Member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.230.84.115 |
I know of some religious-based colleges that offer credit for "life experience". Maybe that's how RW got his "Ph.D" and "D.D." | ||
| odashiman Member Username: odashiman Post Number: 81 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.14.94.156 |
Hey Victor, I never believed that WMDavis actually has a legitimate degree. I was referring to an actual accreditted degree program, specifically those offered by Central Baptist College in Conway, AR. I happen to know that they have high-quality educational programs. In any case, when vying for a particular degree program, would should examine all aspects of the college that offers it, such as the quality of the education, the type of degree and following career prospects, and even extracurricular student programs. But we all know this stuff. Dave | ||
| victorjohanson Junior Member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 30 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.230.84.115 |
I'm just saying that this whole "life experience" credit thing is the hallmark of a diploma mill, and anytime I hear about it it makes me leery. | ||
| rls New member Username: rls Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
I think Vic there are legitimate ones out there. But, life experience isn't the only thing that the ones I know of uses. Community colleges may use them to a small degree. Upper Iowa University, which has a branch extension on Ft. Leavenworth, incorporates life experience. | ||
| rls Junior Member Username: rls Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
I think Vic there are legitimate ones out there. But, life experience isn't the only thing that the ones I know of uses. Community colleges may use them to a small degree. Upper Iowa University, which has a branch extension on Ft. Leavenworth, incorporates life experience. | ||
| doug_allen Intermediate Member Username: doug_allen Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 67.35.72.9 |
Vic, does RW claim to have a PhD? I can see how he might have a DD, but not a PhD. | ||
| victorjohanson Junior Member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 31 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.230.84.115 |
"Vic, does RW claim to have a PhD? I can see how he might have a DD, but not a PhD." Doug, go to http://www.ntccxposed.com/Handbook2.pdf and take a gander at RW's picture. According to the caption, he has both | ||
| tracypelfrey Junior Member Username: tracypelfrey Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 76.211.13.190 |
While checking out the link, I found this under the statement of faith, or of their beliefs: FOOT WASHING Foot washing is recognized among many believers as a Christian practice and the time, manner and frequency of its observance is left to the discretion of each local observation. (John 13) I was wondering if some of you old-timers...like Vic and others from your NTCC era...remember ever having a FOOT WASHING? If not, were you ever given a reason as to why not? Of course, for me it is really a moot point, although fun to explore because I reject the whole PROFESSIONAL MINISTRY premise. As you might gather from my postings. It's not biblical. Tracy | ||
| odashiman Member Username: odashiman Post Number: 82 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 72.14.94.156 |
Yes, a handbook published by WMDavis, yes, I can see how that's conclusive evidence. I'm not really interested in what he CLAIMS. I want to know what he actually HAS. | ||
| doug_allen Intermediate Member Username: doug_allen Post Number: 250 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 67.35.72.9 |
Vic, does RW claim to have a PhD? I can see how he might have a DD, but not a PhD. | ||
| doug_allen Intermediate Member Username: doug_allen Post Number: 251 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 67.35.72.9 |
Vic, does RW claim to have a PhD? I can see how he might have a DD, but not a PhD. | ||
| victorjohanson Junior Member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 66.230.84.115 |
"I was wondering if some of you old-timers...like Vic and others from your NTCC era...remember ever having a FOOT WASHING?" No, but I remember RW talking about participating in them pre-NTCC, and I think I heard about one that NTCC conducted before I was involved. | ||
| pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1004 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.214.221.30 |
Husband: Want to read the paper? Wife: Just read me the headlines. Husband: Alright...Headlines: Mao Se Tung receives military honors! Leonid Breshnev awarded Soviet Medal of Freedom! Grandma somehow places hotels on Boardwalk and Park Place! Yassir Arafat receives Nobel Peace Prize! RW Davis awarded PhD! Lyndon Johnson named honorary Texas Ranger! Fidel Cas... Wife: Whoa!! Hold on a second...RW Davis got a degree? Hah! What'd he do, give it to himself while no one was looking? Gimmee a break, already! If that isn't obvious, I don't know WHAT is! | ||
| mark_g New member Username: mark_g Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 72.201.122.179 |
I remember in 1981 Pastor Wright in Hawaii saying that R'Dub had a DD, But he said nothing at all about a PhD. Personally, I don't believe that he has one. | ||
| clearwater Junior Member Username: clearwater Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 67.183.231.124 |
I was at one in mid 80's in Tillicum. Not really something you can describe. Obviously it is/was something more traditional than scriptural. Would I look for a church that practices it? Probably not. However, I have nothing negative to say with regards to it. | ||
| weezer Junior Member Username: weezer Post Number: 26 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 68.26.37.12 |
we did one in Germany when Rev. Keys was there. (the balding one with glasses) it was different, yet quite an eye-opener and humbling and a blessing all at the same time. | ||
| clearwater Junior Member Username: clearwater Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 67.183.231.124 |
weezer, I would echo your sentiments. | ||
| bro_derrick Senior Member Username: bro_derrick Post Number: 1985 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 70.208.90.246 |
"Upper Iowa University, which has a branch extension on Ft. Leavenworth, incorporates life experience." Well gosh. For life experience in Davis' NTCC, we certainly have plenty of THAT credit for Upper Iowa U. At least their Leavenworth Branch! I mean, isn't that one of the more than obvious things?? I think we should get Honorary Doctorates. (If not a Fellowship of Foolishness) Why does Bob Seger's 'Ship of Fools' come to mind? Olson once preached on 'The Organizational Ship of the Church'. Who's Captain of that one? Does he have a PhD, DD, DDT, TNT...? The closest thing Davis has to a 'Life Experienced' PhD is as the big Phooey Doctor of other men's souls! | ||
| steve_tyrer Member Username: steve_tyrer Post Number: 84 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 69.152.169.162 |
"I was wondering if some of you old-timers...like Vic and others from your NTCC era...remember ever having a FOOT WASHING?" We had a foot washing in Hawaii while Rev Gaylord was the pastor (1979). We just went outside on the back porch and took turns washing each others feet. | ||
| donethat Junior Member Username: donethat Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 71.212.62.211 |
Steve, I must have missed the foot washing. I do remember pop talking about it. | ||
| steve_tyrer Member Username: steve_tyrer Post Number: 86 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 69.152.169.162 |
If you really missed it, I'll have to let you wash my feet sometime. -- That was a joke. Pretty funny huh? If I remember correctly, there were about 6 or 7 brothers who participated; I remember Hummel for sure. | ||
| donethat Junior Member Username: donethat Post Number: 38 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 68.178.7.221 |
Hey, I'll even buff your toenails with a 9" industrial grinder. (lol) | ||
| steve_tyrer Member Username: steve_tyrer Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2005 Posted From: 69.152.169.162 |
That's what it would take, and it would probably need a spare grinder. | ||
| donethat Junior Member Username: donethat Post Number: 41 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 71.212.71.133 |
Ok Steve, I won't wash your feet but I will make you and your family dinner. So the next time your in the area stop by. | ||
| granite Intermediate Member Username: granite Post Number: 235 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.24.207.240 |
I seem to recall years ago hearing from someone that there is a charge for transcripts, and that the price was $15.00. Can anyone verify this info? | ||
| granite Intermediate Member Username: granite Post Number: 236 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 72.24.207.240 |
In Oklahoma, the law states that any institution that charges students a fee for classes is required by law to promptly provide a transcript upon request, provided that the student has no outstanding balance owed to the school. (Not sure about the laws in other states.) |
