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in_the_end
New member
Username: in_the_end
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 64.234.35.75
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 12:25 am: | 
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I know it doesnt take as long as NTCC is taking. Is there something behind that. Why start a website and not even update. Especially when your so organized and professional as NTCC is surposed to be. Is it possible that the FACTnet has something to do with it? |
ntcctruth
New member
Username: ntcctruth
Post Number: 12
Registered: 12-2007
Posted From: 74.50.202.54
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 12:37 am: |
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Kekel had that site built primarily because exNTCCers had previously owned the domain names they currently have and had an anti-NTCC website with that domain.
That site was built in order to combat some of the exNTCCers who were making a difference on the web. Many people who were doing web searches for NTCC would find that site. Therefore, Kekel had to resort to legal threats to force the previous owners to give up that domain name. Right or wrong, that was why he did it. Previously, NTCC used to preach against the internet and RWD stated that he would rather us have a TV than be on the internet.
So are TV's next? Does MCKEKEL, Tanya, and Grant have a TV? Does Phil Kinson have one? I wouldn't put it past any of them...which is ok except for the deception and the hypocrisy of having preached against it and standing by that sort of doctrine while not living it themselves (in respect to the internet, TV, and DVD's).
Now when somebody does a websearch for NTCC, they'll get the "official site" but they'll also get FACTNET! We must continue to support FACTNET in order to keep exposing the truth about NTCC to those who are searching for answers to questions they have when they see so many things that are "off" about that place.
Marc Perez |
nbrown
New member
Username: nbrown
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2008
Posted From: 71.39.121.221
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 11:48 am: |
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This is an excellent point to make. Ntcc isn't about building a website and making information readily known.
They're just bogarting a domain name. |
charger
Junior Member
Username: charger
Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2007
Posted From: 71.32.36.197
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 9:41 pm: |
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There are some old threads you can find on factnet where Rev. Kekel states that things will be explained or layed out on the web site. The posts date back to atleast 2006. So where are they?
As far as TV's go. At the seminar in Graham Pastor said that he has watched TV in hotels. He eluded to the fact that most of the preachers have watched, and or do watch TV in there hotels, and that is OK.
I remember when we use to go to conference with our children under 4 years old and had to get a hotel because there were no kids allowed on the camp ground. Then you would come to the service and Pastor would preach that people do not want to stay on the campground because they want to go to their hotels and watch the Devilvision. Now he admits that he does it to! THAT IS A CHANGE!
Somebody tell me that was not a shock to hear!
PASTOR ADMITS THAT HE WATCHES THE DEVILVISION! WOW!!!
While I am on this subject does anyone know about Television these days. I have one. I have a Satalite system with V-chip. I guess V-chip is in everything now. MY TV IS SAFER THAN YOUR INTERNET.
I can block channels, I can set up parental controls for different ratings, i.e. G - only P.G. P.G.-13 etc. It is incredible.
I love sitting down to watch football.
TV's are no where near as bad as the internet.
Some would say it is a waste of time. No more a waste of time then building a puzzle, or doing crafts or playing stupid video games. I THINK VIDEO GAMES ARE A HUGE WASTE OF TIME, but if you like them COOL.
SO WHO's GOING TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL ANYWAY? |
ntcctruth
New member
Username: ntcctruth
Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2007
Posted From: 74.50.202.54
| | Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 9:37 am: |
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"PASTOR ADMITS THAT HE WATCHES THE DEVILVISION! WOW!!!"
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I told you, I told you, I told you!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not about holiness...it's about BUSINESS!
Pastor Davis only preached about that mess to fill up his dorm rooms in the campground. He needed to make sure that every room is rented so that he won't lose quite as much money on that campground as he otherwise would have.
Can you say MANIPULATION?
Some in NTCC may say that I sound petty, but this is HUGE. Read charger's post again - Davis used to preach how we wanted to stay in the hotel to watch the DEVILVISION! Now he does it himself!
How much do you wanna bet that either the Kekels, Davis's, Phil Kinson, and/or other members of leadership in Graham actually HAVE a TV with CABLE or SATELLITE?!?!?!
If I was a betting man, I'd bet $10,000 at least on it.
If they don't have one now, then it is just a matter-of-time.
I told you - first it was the INTERNET/SINNERNET.
Now it's the TV/DEVILVISION.
When RWD croaks, how long will it be before Tanya Kekel starts wearing pants and makeup? Hmmm? She's got the tight sweaters and dresses already. The Gaylords used to make note of that, along with the fact that they said her perming of her hair was no different than plain ol' cutting, since both have the same effect. Maybe she might not even wait that long.
NTCC/RWD/MCKEKEL is not about so-called holiness, they're about BUSINESS. Alot of that stuff is not even in the Bible anyway, but it's the dishonesty and disingenuousness of it by the leadership that is appalling. The Gaylords and MAYBE the Olsons might have actually believed that holiness stuff, but they're not the ones in charge...it's Davis's and Kekel's corporation...and don't you all forget that! Don't let Kekel try to fool you when he says it's a non-profit corporation. Ha! Who's the head of that corporation?!?! Who can let go of who? Who controls the money? It's alla sham and too many of you in NTCC are giving up families, career, and livelihood over that mess.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO GET OUT!
Marc Perez |
polaris
Intermediate Member
Username: polaris
Post Number: 184
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 12.74.207.137
| | Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:49 pm: |
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once, on the radio I heard a man say that in the Book of Galatians, where the list of the works of the flesh are, witchcraft referes to manipulation: because you say and set up things to get people to do what you want them to do, especially if it is against their better judgement/intuition/choice. Hmm. I thought that was interesting. Being as I sat under one who knew that "craft" well.
p.s. I don't think you are petty. I mean after services and preacheing that made you question your salvation and stand with God because you watched tv somewhere (store, parents house, contacts house, the barracks, quarters, and so),it is a big deal to me too how they change their tune when it was convenient for them. |
weezer
New member
Username: weezer
Post Number: 20
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 70.6.178.5
| | Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 11:28 pm: |
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absolutley amazing about the tv.
the internet can be made just as safe if not safer than the tv
too bad none of this is recoreded so we could have sound bites. i know i heard it through the years about tv's and video games and how he isn't changing, etc,etc.... |
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