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     greg_s Intermediate Member Username: greg_s Post Number: 301 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 205.188.117.202 |
Title: “Who’s Not Ex’r Staff?” (Drafted 5/8/06) (ADDED 12/24/2007: We are finally posting this because we are ready to move on to yet another accurate ExNTCC’r title and also so this would be posted in time for Christmas as our gift to you.) DENIERS ALL: All on the Ex’r Staff have declared they are independent clear thinking entities and not part of any ‘Staff.’ We have observed otherwise and what follows is why. WHY WE DID WHAT WE DO: We first added ‘Staff’ to the label ‘ExNTCC/Ex’r’ earlier this year because not everyone that has left our Christian Church has attacked the Body of Christ; therefore, using the term ExNTCC unjustly lumped the non-attackers that had left the fellowship of our Christian Church together with those that are online and attacking the Body of Christ. As you could have noticed we endeavor to be as strictly precise as we are able. We also observed another, not so surprising trend...People that have never been a part of our Christian Church joined with those that had been a part of our Christian Church and attacked the Body of Christ. This further necessitated the development of a more comprehensive/narrow category. Interestingly (even though the ‘Ex’r Staff’ condemn our Christian lives and based solely on their internet conduct) the ‘Ex’r Staff’ do not live/pursue a lifestyle in strict accordance with God’s New Testament Law. Yet, the ‘Ex’r Staff’ promote themselves as the arbiters and modelers of Biblical Christianity. Within the Ex’rs Camp we observed Atheists, slanderers, Wiccan’s, undiluted fermented beverage ingesters, drug use advocates for the Body of Christ, profanity users, liars, adulterers, haters, RCI’rs, Non-Messianic Jews, HOP’rs that never were NTCC’rs, backbiters, et al. Therefore, this group arrayed against our Christian Church was not only comprised of ExNTCC’rs but also contained never-were-NTCC’rs, Ex-Body-of-Christ’rs and never-were-Body-of-Christ’rs. All united against the Body of Christ and/or all flying the same banner and/or all under the same umbrella and/or all espousing the same talking points/doctrine and all persecuting our Christian Church et al. This left us a few designation options; ‘Ex’r Staff’ and ‘Ex’r Camp’ being among them. Since those arrayed against our Christian Church do not share a geographic location other than the internet we rejected Camp in favor of Staff for the following reasons: They mostly telecommute to gather. Their online attack is coordinate via internet and telephone. They support each other in varying capacities online and offline. The transferring of finances among them is involved to support and sustain the ‘Ex’r Staff’s’ internet attack presence and network. They have even had a first annual conference/workshop, where ‘Ex’r Staff’ and potential converts to the ‘Ex’r Staff’ cause met. Again, this is all gleaned from the Ex’rs internet presence only. Then, we looked to Webster’s to further determine if ‘Ex’r Staff’ or ‘Ex’r Camp’ would be the more strictly accurate designation. After our trip to Webster’s we chose ‘Ex’r Staff’ because it was the more strictly accurate of these two accurate terms; as we additionally show below. Another reason we chose Staff over Camp is because we believed, at the time, it would generate the, by now, routine negative knee jerk response that it did/does generate because the ‘Ex’r Staff’ historically do not take the time to understand or even hold their peace because they don’t want to understand. Well, in this post and the greg_s posts following we are providing the intentional understanding. Put another way, we also chose Staff because we assumed it would be intentionally misunderstood more easily and more completely than Ex’r Camp would; and, as is usually the case, we could not have been more right. Again, for your further convenience we provide additional clarification below in the next greg_s post: “WHO’S NOT EX’R STAFF?” CONTINUED BELOW… | ||
| ctyankee Intermediate Member Username: ctyankee Post Number: 191 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 75.165.117.185 |
Boring!!!! | ||
| donethat Junior Member Username: donethat Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 71.212.83.234 |
Boring!!!! It is like junk mail at the post office. Just throw it away. | ||
| popcorn100 New member Username: popcorn100 Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 24.236.160.104 |
What it is, is manipulation. | ||
| weezer New member Username: weezer Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.6.95.127 |
no. Facts about Greg_s and what it is: thisisstuffgreg_sprobablytypesjusttobewhatisconsideredatrolloninternetforums. therereallyismostlikelynorhymenorreasontohispostsotherthantheentertainmenthereceivesfrom watchingeveryonegettheirbuttonspushed. | ||
| charger New member Username: charger Post Number: 21 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 71.38.28.127 |
Greg_S You need to move on. Why do you try to intentionally fire these people up? You seem like you are looking for ways to anger these people more. Is that the right thing to do? I remeber pastor saying if you cannot help someone you should not hurt them. It does not seem like you are helping here! | ||
| greg_s Intermediate Member Username: greg_s Post Number: 302 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 64.12.117.202 |
“WHO’S NOT EX’R STAFF?” CONTINUED… THEIR BADGE OF HONOR: A person who was previously a member of our Christian Church first coined the label ‘exntccr’ for her/himself on April 12, 2004 on FACTNet. This label was quickly adopted by those that had left the part of the Body of Christ that is our Christian Church; the continued use of which continues to this day. Yes, that’s right, consensus again. Historically, there have been very few (no) original thinkers on the ‘Ex’r Staff.’ The title ‘ExNTCC’r’ is/was a badge of honor and rallying point for the ExNTCC Staff. We merely added ‘Staff’ to their self chosen title. DEFINITIONS: Staff - 1 n. 1. a group of persons, as employees, charged with carrying out the work of an establishment or executing some undertaking. 3. a member of a staff. 9. something that supports or sustains. –adj. 12. of or pertaining to a military or organizational staff: 13. (of a professional person) employed on the staff of a corporation, publication, institution, or the like rather than being self-employed or practicing privately: –v.t. 14. to provide with a staff of assistants or workers: 15. to serve on the staff of. 16. to send to a staff for study or further work (often fol. by out). As - adv. 1. to the same degree, amount, or extent; similarly; equally. 2. for example; for instance. Charge - v. –v.t. 7. to impute; ascribe the responsibility for: 8. to instruct authoritatively, as a judge does a jury. 9. to lay a command or injunction upon: –v.i. 21. to make an onset; rush, as to an attack. 27. charge up, Informal. a. to agitate, stimulate, or excite: –n. 38. a command or injunction; exhortation. 39. an accusation: —Syn. 5. assault. 6. indict, arraign, impeach. 9. enjoin, exhort, urge, bid, require, order. 32. onslaught, assault. 34. commission, trust. 39. indictment, imputation, allegation. Or•gan•i•za•tion n. 1. the act or process of organizing. 2. the state or manner of being organized. 3. something that is organized. 4. organic structure; composition. 5. a group of persons organized for some end or work; association. 6. the administrative personnel or apparatus of a business. 7. the functionaries of a political party along with the offices, committees, etc., that they fill. 8. an organism. –adj. 9. of or pertaining to an organization. 10. Informal. conforming entirely to the standards, rules, or demands of an organization, esp. that of one's employer. Em•ploy - v.t. 2. to keep busy or at work; engage the attentions of. 3. to make use of (an instrument, means, etc.); use; apply. 4. to occupy or devote (time, energies, etc.). NOTE: Above, we include/considered the non-noun definitions. They add so much more depth to this already substantial description of the ‘Ex’r Staff’ phenomena. The non-noun definitions are what made the designation of ‘Ex’r Staff’ so much more comprehensive than Ex’r Camp or even Ex’r Cabal and Ex’r Organization. The non-noun definitions make the title ‘Ex’r Staff’ so much more strictly accurate than it already is without them. N'est-ce pas? END NOTE. “WHO’S NOT EX’R STAFF?” CONTINUED BELOW… | ||
| imaskingwhy Intermediate Member Username: imaskingwhy Post Number: 102 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.40.83.170 |
I think Greg is a paid employee of NTCC, and this is his job to somehow get on here and attempt to categorically counter all that is said concerning his church organization. BDH | ||
| rls Member Username: rls Post Number: 59 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 206.138.130.3 |
He's an RWD knot head?  | ||
| weezer New member Username: weezer Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.0.80.195 |
don't feed the troll | ||
| ctyankee Intermediate Member Username: ctyankee Post Number: 193 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 75.165.117.185 |
Greg is simply a TROLL, who's only purpose is to intentionally flood this site with meaningless jibberish, in an attempt to derail the focus from the cultish practices and spiritual abuses of New Testament Christian Church. Notice that he NEVER answers a single point about a specific charge against NTCC, but simply posts mindnumbing emptiness which he has prepared beforehand. Greg is a faithful, brainwashed follower of NTCC, who condones ALL abuses necessary to keep men and women bound in this cultish organization. My suggestion is that we totally IGNORE Greg_s the Troll. | ||
| greg_s Intermediate Member Username: greg_s Post Number: 305 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 205.188.117.202 |
“WHO’S NOT EX’R STAFF?” CONTINUED… WE KNOW WHAT WE BELIEVE: Maybe, eventually, the ‘Ex’r Staff’ may realize that we have, albeit in a non-accredited College way, a solid yet boring underlying reason for what we write (our works) on FACTNet. Because, we are routinely challenged as if we don’t. In other words, we know and have known what we believe and why and are willing to share it for all to read or skim or not read but always comment on while never disproving, as they see fit. Again, we know we also could have used the similarly accurate Ex’r Cabal or Ex’r Organization, but ‘Ex’r Staff’ serves the purpose slightly better. We rejected cabal because of the non-secret/public aspect of the ‘Ex’r Staff’s’ works. Based on our research thus far, the only designation that would be more accurate than ‘Ex’r Staff’ would be ‘The organizational public arm of the Ex’r Staff Cabal’ but this would be ponderous even by greg_s’ high standards. ‘Ex’r Organization’ was tied with ‘Ex’r Staff’ for first place but, was rejected because we surmised ‘Ex’r Organization’ would be intentionally misunderstood to a degree that would be extreme even by ‘Ex’r Staff’ non-standards. Plus, we did not want anyone to assume we considered the Ex’r Staff part of the world wide Christian Church’s organization or to attribute the Ex’r Staff’s methods and logic to us because we are routinely referred to as an organization. We could also have picked for titles Ex’r Clique, Ex’r Coterie, Ex’r In-Group, Ex’r Inner Circle, Ex’r Pack, Ex’r Faculty, Ex’r Personnel, Ex’r Force et al with similar accuracy/applicability. NOTE: To the ‘Ex’r Staff’…break free, think for yourself, don’t allow yourself to be driven. Unless strictly based on God’s New Testament Law group-think/consensus is never correct. END NOTE. Hope this helped. Cheers, greg_s (exntcctextbook@yahoo.com) | ||
| victorjohanson Senior Member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 1449 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 216.67.56.15 |
"I think Greg is a paid employee of NTCC, and this is his job to somehow get on here and attempt to categorically counter all that is said concerning his church organization." If that's so, it's a serious waste of "God's money," because if anything, greg_s is a poster child for NTCC's critics, proving by example that their allegations of extreme weirdness have foundation. That's why I think he's really one of us in spirit, pulling off this charade to bring discredit to the borg, because no one could inflict such damage unintentionally. You rock, Greg. If you're ever in Fairbanks, stop in for a brew and we'll laugh together. | ||
| ctyankee Intermediate Member Username: ctyankee Post Number: 195 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 75.165.117.185 |
Greg Shunk stated above, "We first added ‘Staff’ to the label ‘ExNTCC/Ex’r’ earlier this year because not everyone that has left our Christian Church has attacked the Body of Christ..." Greg this statement is flawed, because it makes the assumption that NTCC IS "the body of Christ". You need to PROVE how a so-called Christian church that uses cult tactics, verbally and emotionally abuses it's members under the guise of obeying the Bible, and that demonizes anyone who leaves and says anything remotely negative about your church can be considered "the Body of Christ". The true Body of Christ consists of ALL men and women throughout the world who have accepted Christ as their Savior; not just a small church organization based out of Graham, Washington. I think you need to reread the above thread on Mind Control. | ||
| still_small_voice Senior Member Username: still_small_voice Post Number: 2578 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 205.188.117.202 |
Excellent description. Very accurate. | ||
| mklo Advanced Member Username: mklo Post Number: 685 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 67.185.114.218 |
Rev. greg_s: Who's "we?" Who is it that you claim to speak for? Do you have a mouse in your pocket, or are you NTCC's Goliath? You always use "we" instead of "I" and you refer to yourself in the third person, as if you are a trademarked brand. Because, as previous greg_s posts have demonstrated... | ||
| imaskingwhy Intermediate Member Username: imaskingwhy Post Number: 105 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 216.40.83.170 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think Greg is a paid employee of NTCC, and this is his job to somehow get on here and attempt to categorically counter all that is said concerning his church organization. BD | ||
| greg_s Intermediate Member Username: greg_s Post Number: 349 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 205.188.117.202 |
TITLE: “Let’s Watch TV” (Drafted 1/28/2007) What’s on the spiritually discerning Holy Ghost led Christian’s TV tonight? Follow http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=45501158 hyperlink. Pastor Allen shares, in part…”on Sunday night I do enjoy watching Desp H'wives and Grey's Ant with Janet.” Good for him? We do appreciate his honesty. Is this is a better way to spend time than going to a Sunday Night Church Service? Follow http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=100655400 hyperlink. Mother Smit shares, in part…”(…) Desperate Housewives, Lost, Project Runway, Grey's Anatomy, Heroes.... I don't watch anything else!” Good for her? We do appreciate her honesty. Is this is a better way to spend time than going to a Sunday Night Church Service? You should see that “Grey’s Anatomy” and “Desperate Housewives” are on the list with regards to what’s on TV Sunday Night. This is part of what these examples for the believers are watching. What is “Grey’s Anatomy?” TV Guide says… Grey's Anatomy Premise: Surgical residents fresh out of med school get on-the-job training at a Seattle teaching hospital in this medical drama, which parlayed a cushy Sunday time slot (post-`Desperate Housewives') and a hefty dollop of sex and romance into almost-instant success. Indeed, in the opener, intern Meredith Grey sleeps with attending Derek (‘McDreamy') Shepherd the night before she starts work at Seattle Grace. The next day she discovers that he's her boss. ASIDE: The individual episode synopses are even more titillating. END ASIDE. CONTINUED… | ||
| greg_s Intermediate Member Username: greg_s Post Number: 350 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 205.188.117.202 |
CONTINUING… What is “Desperate Housewives?” Their website says…. A primetime soap with a truly contemporary take on the "happily ever after," this hit series takes a darkly comedic look at suburbia, where the secret lives of housewives aren't always what they seem. The series began with Mary Alice Young (Brenda Strong) leaving her perfect house, in the loveliest of suburbs, and ending it all. Now she takes us into the lives of her family, friends and neighbors, commenting from her elevated P.O.V. Her circle of girlfriends on Wisteria Lane includes Susan Mayer (Teri Hatcher), the divorcee and single mom who will go to extraordinary lengths for love; Lynette Scavo (Felicity Huffman), who struggles with balancing the complications of work and family issues; Bree Van De Kamp (Marcia Cross) -- Martha Stewart on steroids -- who battles the demons of widowhood, alcoholism and vengeful children; Gabrielle Solis (Eva Longoria), the ex-model with everything she has ever wanted - a rich husband, a big house -- everything that is, but a good marriage; and serial divorcee Edie Britt (Nicollette Sheridan), the free spirited real estate maven whose love life has everyone buzzing. Then there are the men: Mike Delfino (James Denton), a plumber who is the on-again/off-again love of Susan's life; Lynette's adorable husband, Tom (Doug Savant), who, it's turning out, has his own share of secrets, and Gabrielle's estranged husband, Carlos (Ricardo Antonio Chavira). Joining the group is Bree's husband, Orson Hodge (Kyle MacLachlan); the charming Ian Kavanaugh (Dougray Scott), a new love interest for Susan; and Austin Britt (Josh Henderson), Edie's 17-year-old nephew, who shares his aunt's knack for stirring up trouble. From her unique vantage point, Mary Alice sees more now than she ever did alive, and she's planning to share all the delicious secrets that hide behind every neighbor's closed door in this seemingly perfect American suburb. ASIDE: The individual episode synopses are even more titillating. END ASIDE. Speaking for ourselves, after reading about the premise of these two shows we have no desire to watch them. Furthermore, we believe these shows would harm our relationship with God. Additionally, we did not need the Holy Ghost to tell us this. Yet we are to trust the Ex'rs spiritual discernment regarding what the Body of Christ should or shouldn’t do? McAwesome. Bon appetite! Speaking truth to haters, greg_s | ||
| weezer Junior Member Username: weezer Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 99.203.121.24 |
ok, caller, you have found someone to smear and attack, whether it is true or not true, so be it. to their own master they stand or fall, who are you to judge anothers servant ? either way, you have still not answered the question. | ||
| biblegirl1999 Intermediate Member Username: biblegirl1999 Post Number: 242 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 79.199.30.207 |
Wow Greg...you typed all that about Desperate Housewives??? Ummm..I think the people on FactNet know what that show is...LOL. And Greg, you may have forgotten...these people on FactNet no longer are in NTCC but worship elsewhere, so their new church may not even have a Sunday night service. My church doesn't. But that doesn't mean I am sitting in front of the TV... I'd rather read my Bible or a good book then flip through the channels for an hour to try and find something wholesome  God Bless You! | ||
| imaskingwhy Intermediate Member Username: imaskingwhy Post Number: 131 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 208.79.15.2 |
For the record I watch "PRISON BREAK". BDH | ||
| imaskingwhy Intermediate Member Username: imaskingwhy Post Number: 132 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 208.79.15.2 |
No pun intended Well, maybe BDH | ||
| the_buck_stops_here Member Username: the_buck_stops_here Post Number: 63 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 67.35.72.9 |
I was wondering Greg are you currently pastoring? It seems you are dedicating a large portion of your time to factnet for an NTCC Pastor. Shouldn't you be preparing messages, soul winning, and following up on people? Perhaps you are back in Graham and suffering from too much time on your hands? If you are not in Graham, be careful, too much time on Factnet might land you there. (Message edited by the buck stops here on January 08, 2008) | ||
| michael_ismyfirstname New member Username: michael_ismyfirstname Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2007 Posted From: 72.172.42.141 |
is he a factnet pastor? How much time does he pray about factnet? is he trying to save people on factnet, or vanquish them? I think I remember him saying he routinely shame/goads people into a relevant response. | ||
| the_buck_stops_here Member Username: the_buck_stops_here Post Number: 64 Registered: 7-2005 Posted From: 67.35.72.9 |
Greg, After careful examination ,of the NTCC web page, I failed to find your name by any NTCC church either in the U.S. or oversees. Not pastoring must really bite. That really explains a lot. A good mental health counselor might be able to help you work out your feelings about your current situation. | ||
| rls Junior Member Username: rls Post Number: 43 Registered: 12-2007 Posted From: 65.28.108.137 |
He be the internet boy wonder, "Wordy Boy" Easy GS. Joking. Trust me! I'm from the government and I'm here to help you. Bwahahahahaha! |
