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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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"The quickest way to become a millionaire is to start your own religion." L. Ron Hubbard
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easeltine
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Reason for Hank H. against it.
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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Mr. easeltine:

Quoting: "Reason for Hank H. against it."
End quote.

Jesus is also against it.
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easeltine
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Yes, Jesus is against starting your own religion for money.
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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Mr. Easeltine:

Jesus Christ has nothing to do with the pseudo-christian cult of pentecostalism.
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easeltine
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You are welcome to come to my church anytime.
We can rejoice and praise the LORD Jesus Christ together.
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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Mr. Easeltine:

Thank you, but no thank you. I have received the same invitation from the Mormon church. Besides, I attend one of your religion's psycho-dramas at least one a month to pass out Bibles.
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easeltine
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Well, if you came to my Church we would all have Bibles, and many of the people are enrolled in the Seminary headed by Pastor Jack Hayford.

I agree with the problem of "Marketing" at all these big Church's, whether it be the big Church's of the Fundamentalists, (seeker friendly stuff), or Pentecostal/Charismatic. There is even a less emphasis on repentance of sin from the seeker friendly crowd than Pentecostals by a long shot!
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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Mr. Easeltine:

Quoting: "There is even a less emphasis on repentance of sin from the seeker friendly crowd than Pentecostals by a long shot!"
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That is purely a fabrication of self-justification. Thirteen-hundred of pentecostalism's most elite ministers have been found guilt of gross immorality by a jury of their peers. That number does not include such notables as Kathryn Kulhman, who died of a cocaine overdose after having an alleged abortion in Mexico. Nor does it include the likes of Peter Popoff. Even the child-molesting-homosexual founder of that religion was never criminally charged. Scandal and division are the distinctives of pentecostalism.
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easeltine
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Kathryn Kuhlman died at 70 of heart failure. You again are just amazing! I think you have Aimee Semple McPherson mixed up with Kathryn Kuhlman, and have misrepresented the facts.

Will you ever get you facts correct? Oh brother! I even showed you that Parham was charged in Texas...you are truly amazing.
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easeltine
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* Show me any evidence for the statement about the 1,300 most elite ministers have been found guilty of gross immorality by a jury of their peers.

* Kathryn Kuhlman - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Kuhlman - The exact truth is that Kathryn Kuhlman died at 69 years and 9 months following open-heart surgery.

* Jamie Buckingham does talk about her six year marriage and how she decided to leave her husband to go back into the ministry in her biography that I read. He divorced her for abandonment. Nobody is hiding this fact. It's a moral failure when she is younger, 28 years before her death, and it was not an excuse to get a divorce.

There is no TRUTH to the idea that she ever took cocaine, overdose, abortion etc.!!

You should research the Truth before Posting these types of false accusations!

* Peter Popoff is one of those False Prosperity Gospel, False Faith Healer people. He is a fraud, but not every person with the Gift of Healing is a fraud.

* The person that you got confused with Kathryn Kuhlman is Aimee Semple McPherson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Semple_McPherson

Again, you have stated the truth incorrectly:

* IF, AND I SAY IF, Aimee Semple McPherson had an abortion it was 18 years before her death.

* Cocaine is not the same as prescribed barbiturates! Aimee Semple McPherson never took cocaine!

"Quoting Wikepedia about Aimee's death; "On September 27, 1944, shortly after giving a sermon, she was found dead in her hotel room in Oakland, California, of an overdose of prescription barbiturates. [2] There was conjecture of suicide. However, it is generally agreed that the overdose was accidental, as stated on the coroner's report."

Roberta Semple, who died earlier this year at 96 years old had a falling out with her mother. Some of it was her doing.

Rolf McPherson at 93 years old is still alive. He retired as President of the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, which Jack Hayford is now President, he is 73 years old.

The Truth about Parham has been presented to you regarding his alleged child molesting again from Wikepedia, you present it as a fact, another one of your false accusations:

"In July 1907, the San Antonio, Texas, papers reported that Parham was detained on morals charges.[1] Those charges were never pursued, proven, or taken to trial. Given the hostile environment present in some of the areas, and how morals charges were viewed at the time, the environment was present for convicting if any evidence existed. Since nothing ever went to trial, the validity of the allegations must be seriously questioned, and Parham's wife's later claim that it was "all spite work" could well be the case."

You do not present the Truth. You continue to give false accusations about people. And for pete's sake...there are so many Baptist splits it is amazing!
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easeltine
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Stuff about Aimee not in Widepedia:

The Newspaper ditti:

"Down by the ocean, down by the sea, there sits Ormiston with Aimee on his knee."

Ormiston used a wheelchair.

Roberta had to wear a white dress and go to the front of the church and say,

"The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord."

A popular song in the church of the 20's you will never know about except for here:

"It's the Foursquare Gospel, it's the Foursquare Gospel, let the message of the Foursquare ring, Jesus only Saviour, Baptizer, and Healer, Jesus the Coming King."
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 7:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mr. Easeltine:

Do you know what write-your-own-encyclopedia means?
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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Mr. Easeltine:

Quoting: "* Peter Popoff is one of those False Prosperity Gospel, False Faith Healer people. He is a fraud, but not every person with the Gift of Healing is a fraud."
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Just those who have been caught are frauds, my dear friend!!
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easeltine
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Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Granted, there are a lot of frauds!

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