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baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 33
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 216.189.165.129
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:13 am: | 
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don't know who has noticed...besides the chat room cult... but the Minister who presents
Jesus to the world on Jan TV - has a brand new advertisement to lure us into the clandestine world of violent secular porn perversion and leftist agendas abundant blaspemies and self medicating irresponsibility.
let's not overlook the wide and varied world of the occult and a whole lotta mind bending and paradigm shifting "preaching"-"teaching".
what pray tell are you telling us oh evil mean man?
that carman has a condo now for rent where he brags, accentuates and yes...provides- for a small amount of money per evening "more than 500 movies", all the evil you can watch and add to your spirits and pollute your mind with.
and who knows what do with your body to.
he just put the capital J in jerk.
here's a guy that leads ya, sings God's praise to ya, and he doesn't just promote secular artists with immoral ministries that defile ya, he's gonna give you a chance to be alone, in his vacation home
(not a home - an overstated room at a tacky "resort") with the prayers of witches conming over/into ya and the images and spiritual influences of real evil.
what you say??? prayers of witches? BALONEY!!!
really? because many of the producers and actors/actresses have various cults and covens and practitioners place spells, hexes, incantations on their music and movies TO INFLUENCE THE VIEWER/BUYER.
all kinds of spells!
let's not feel any conviction shall we?
let's pretend that all that carman does is safe and Christian and trustable. does jan think his condo in faux hawaii is "cute and darling"?
+if she likes it, and cuddles him with her voice and eyes, then it must be so good and 'so' of God.
baloney.
why did Jesus say to be sober and vigilant?
or that the "weapons" of our warfare are not carnal, but spiritual?
so there is nothing a movie can do to you, or demons through it, is that right jancarm? it's just a little carnal stimulation and art is nuetral, so is God!!
so if the people who produce the movies like the crouches, say all or most movies are fine okay no problem and say the people with standards that really are of God are the jerks, then it must be true. producers and financers are the final authority and the sources of truth in the kingdom cult of entertainment. are you say we should see no movies? baloney...
what say you oh tbn and carman the ordained one,
former(?) best friend of carlton the charlatain, (who is fleecing gays and his cult members and feels all dizzy and profound doing it)-
---the SCRIPTURE that tells us to "cast down imagination" and "walking in their 'vain' imagination
'they' darkened their 'foolish' hearts", it's all just a nice suggestion from Jesus. right on!
movies...imagination? influential witchcraft, evil, to be rejected and avoided unless we have no self control and have to have our fix, our booze that alters our mood and relieves our tensions? time wasters, heart darkeners?
displeasing to a HOLY and LOVING God?
He's not watching you, and He doesn't care what you watch!
baloney. |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 34
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 216.189.165.129
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:31 am: |
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all movies are safe and good!
baloney.
FREEDOM-you should have as many at your fingertips, in your eye gates entering into your psyche and spirit man.
it's abundance and freedom!!!!
it's modern, hip and normal!
we are "OF" this world, RELEVANT, and can do say see anything... and we have to take in everything!
eshewing nothing.
baloney.
whatever happened to Romans?
OR-"Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty."
" ungodly movies are bondage brokers and heart fillers, perspective instillers" a woman minister once told us... and sure they can be the norm and a powerful way to preach or demonstrate Christ or just entertain for relaxation or they educate
(good&bad&very bad).
BUT Butt head- there is no way that God sanctions the openess and addictive abusive imbibment of the ideas and spirituality of many many many many many many many many movies.
carman have you put into practice or do you have the proof of your walk with God (not just at Him) the actual Fruit of the Spirit?
temperance? self control? goodness? kindness? patience? peace?
can you evaluate the influence of a movie or your usage and purchases of movies under that criteria?
can or will? 'can' you?
thank you brother carman.
where did you say you got your minister's credentials?
same place as randy white or bishop weeks?
if i let those movies into my household and subject my wife to them, content, spirituality, images, ideas ya know all of the "realities"... am i abusing her?
if i watch them myself am i being harmful and weakening to myself?
baloney... says those that think they are now the all knowing ones!
boy that's what my wife and i want to do...go to carman's 'vacation spot' (look at his myspace page if you have to) because we are going to really feel the presence of the spirits, uh wait "Spirit"(?)there!
 at least we would be able to check our teeth for left over pupu's every two feet.
oh baloney you are so mean to carman.
don't you know what the man has gone through?
he can sin all that he wants because he is discouraged and he can charge people to stay in a rinky •••• glorified holiday inn room for his profit!
and cooooool... open them to sin... as the people there will most likely see things they were never designed by God to see or hear.
do your eyes belong to God and you hears?
Do not yield your members (body) to sin or wickedness. or unrighteousness.
guess that's just too judgmental and strict for a man who is preaching "Christ" to the world. and for a normal guy just struggling to serve the Lord and make some scratch.
wonder if he has some playboys and hustler or maxim on the coffee table, maybe a spell book or two. does the condo come with tarot cards and gemstones? you can buy plenty of them at walmart or borders. maybe a sex toy catalog to play along with hbo features?
  BALONEY!!! how can you say that???!!!
LORD HAVE MERCY-how can carman let you see it, feel it... and get darkened in the condo of a minister on the beach and let you pay for it.
two guests and walla the dark and dirty movies and all the infiltration and influence is paid in full.
carman is a good 'boy'.
holy and uncompromising.
gentle, kind and more godly than most men alive.
he's my personal example!
baloney!
(Message edited by baloney on October 09, 2007) |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 35
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 216.189.165.129
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:39 am: |
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aren't we supposed to live to Christ, die to self and keep ourselves unspotted from the World?
is tbn writing a new version of the Bible where they remove the "mean" and "old fashioned" scriptures?
does carman and his "group" (mini cult with Jesus t-shirts- or were those CWO shirts) think that this is just so judgmental and limiting?
bondage isn't limiting?
being blind is a pretty big limitation.
being addicted to anything is a limitation. being too ethnic and to self absorbed is a limitation and being deceived is a limitation. there are more.
but you would be bored.
what does carman like more HBO or DayStar?
oh baloney you are so religious!
you mean you think we can live without most, really most R rated films and without pay channels and supporting them and being hurt by them too? baloney you are off your rocker!!
get a life baloney. get out from between the comfy bread, wash off the mayo and discard that lettuce boy, and order up some pay channels sitting naked in your room.
shout out to zebra and anyone else who has more than half a standard and whose cup of reality is more than a third full.
Glory to God Who gives us discernment and self control and Who gives us Joy unspeakable and Peace that passes understanding that the world does not know and that ya can't get from 500 first run movies and pay channels!
baloney? |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 295
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.131.82.179
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 11:12 am: |
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Baloney:
After reading your above posts, # 33, # 34, # 35, I feel I must point out some things you must not know. Below are just a few:
1. Didn't you know that the second coming had taken place? Guess who???
2. Didn't you know that speaking the truth will get you in trouble with the girls of the paid-chat site?
3. Didn't you know that one must become "One" in order to reach "One?"
4. Didn't you know that the "Gifted One" can do no wrong. If he did it it had to be done?
5. Didn't you know that, according to Carle, that he would have been an apostle in the early times?
5. Didn't you know that he was married but he wasn't married?
6. Didn't you know he has more talent than any other human being on the face of the earth?
7. Didn't you know that he has a right to say and do the things he does?
8. Didn't you know, according to Carle, he should have his face on Mt. Rushmore?
Now that you truly know these things, I'm sure you will start treating him the way the girls from the paid-chat site treat him. With the honor he deserves. (smile)
Again I must say, you do have a way with words. Please continue to share the truth with us. Perhaps someday, I to will be able to do the same. (smile)
Zebra |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 36
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 216.189.165.129
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 11:31 am: |
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sorry for the typos sisters, brothers, onlookers.
oh yeah-nice one carle calling zebra z-bra. some of you need a spiritual bra - something to uplift and support you and cover you.
like carman does?
he likes beyonce apparently and she doesn't wear one. but she's servin the Lord!!! and so is her booty. does she get that anointed with oil before each performance?
BALONEY???!!!!!
does carman find peace in movies instead of in the Lord? seriously now...does he do that? is that his meditation and his modeling? he does act like secular actors in everyday life. sad that he can't love himself enough to know himself and be himself.
you are EVIL BALONEY, carman is so fun and so smart and so in love with himself, uh, sorry- Jesus!
so you don't go to movies baloney is that right?!
you are amish or you are weird Bible thumping booger eater.
we are so wrong. cause ya know that when you watch a movie it's not a mild form of a sedative and puts you in a semi hypnotic state psychologically.
so ya escape negative feelings or transpose the ones from the movie over your own. it's like being drunk or high to the brain and the emotions.
does your dentist have the movie goggles so you can watch a flick while he works on your mouth?
ours does. hmmmmm? sedative there too?
you can pray and drive.
but you can't watch a movie and drive.
could you or carman go for three months without watching a single movie? could ya live? could ya feel free and clean and closer to God?
man you crazy!!
your mental and spiritual health would be better if ya did it. you would be more in tune with the Spirit of God and your spiritual eyes and ears would be clearer.
God would like it.
baloney!
ya know you can buy those pay channels and you will NEVER watch the bad stuff or cave to temptation or spiritual power pulling you in. like we said, demons cannot get access to your mind emotions body relationships anointings through movies or porn.
get real baloney, this is the modern age of Christianity, we can do anything and God will just clear the screen at the end of the day, "erase the history" and there will be no curse or damage or "death" (sin results in death)
poverty mental illness anger and character sin.
no!!! we are impervious! and that nasty little verse about guarding your heart with all diligence, and putting on the spiritual armor? keeping oneself unspotted from the world and forsaking evil? exposing darkness? resisting temptation and not giving the flesh provision to sin?
just a bunch of baloney?
or doesn't apply to the TV Christians because they are exempt or so strong in the Lord they can do anything.
where is that found in the Bible?
please show us we would love to see it.
we feel your love and good will and the fellowship we have with you according to and based on the Word.
never mind us, we are just full of you know...
BALONEY |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 37
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 216.189.165.129
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 11:32 am: |
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you wish. |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 38
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 216.189.165.129
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 12:22 pm: |
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why do 'they' block rinky "dinky" holiday inn in the post above?
carman do you go around the pool there in a hawaai shirt with a guitar acting like the big E?
don't be your mom your dad george sean elvis bruce mel sly or anyone, but only you-in Jesus.
He will help you find out who He made you to be even over 50!!!
i don't try to be spam or gooseliver or pastrami.
my wife never acts like bacon or pepporonis.
carman, fast movies and tv for 45days. really don't think ya could. sad.
thanks zebra for the outline.
there are somethings i don't know! thankfully God does and He's totally perfect. the only ONE by the way.
and very much interested alive and ministering and governing.
you have my welcome and copyright permission to sign on as baloney in the paid chat.
see how they treat you then.
going to daytona anytime soon?
i know where you can be "anointed" and "ministered" to at a macheesemo "resort" complete with hawaiian shows and a world of perversity and darkness just across from your feet in a 'spacious' condo on the ocean.
these Christians in the ministry and supporting ministry, how will they pray and what will they dispense, speak?
you know... the things the Lord says matter? after reading these HORRIBLE EVIL POSTS?
godly girls and noble men?
Jesus is their Lord. it shows.
if they were real turkeys, and not the processed chemical filled, salt injected fake flat, lunch meat variety, they would be in agreement with the Spirit and not with compromised or manipulative, totally self righteous, defensive, revengeful, "victimized" celebrities.
but none the less, they is turkeys!!
turkeys aren't known for their intelligence.
but they are still God's creations.
sorry, we are all precious in His sight and while we are not on the same page, not even in the same book (the Bible) me thinks dear carman cult, we are His and the Apple of His Eye!
(the most prized and important part) you can be delivered and refreshed from this group think.
is there anyone that carman flys first class with on his 'team'? do his gals think that he would treat them to first class?
if he hosts five shows for tbn or ten, does he get to fly once on the jet?
does he groom jan's dogs for her?
what would happen if an investigation happened at tbn and with paul and jan like it is with the roberts right now.
but don't misunderstand, we have great respect for the ministry that God has built and sustained with ORU and the healing ministry of the Roberts. the professors who are suing them are really in the wrong. and they aren't just correcting expenditures or behaviors, they are bringing a reproach on ORU to the world.
good job cheese heads. jerks(professors).
do these people think it's right to actually live by the Bible?
mark |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 296
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.137.181.155
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 7:56 pm: |
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Baloney:
Please tell me more about this Condo you mentioned in one of your above postings. Does C really have one and if so does he charge individuals to go there and spend some time? What is the true purpose of this Condo?
Also, if this is true, is this one of the reasons that V got so angry with him. I heard that V had given up on C in certain areas because he was doing certain things that he should not be doing. Of course, she would never admit that on a public forum, only to some of the girls from the paid-chat site. This is one of the problems that V now faces. She wants to let C know how wrong he is. Yet, she can't let him know. It might come back to haunt her. It's eating her up at present.
Remember this! Conviction brings unrest. Unrest brings misery. Misery will remain until there is true repentance and an effort to proclain the truth. Even if it means correcting a former employer. Don't you agree Carle? (smile)
Zebra |
carle
Member
Username: carle
Post Number: 54
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 172.133.211.114
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 9:22 am: |
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Z-bra and Balogna
This has got to stop. I am soooo tired of reading all the crap you two have written. Why don't you try writing words of encouragement instead of words that tear down and upset others? Why don't you two get a life? Why not be a good example of what a Christian should be. Build others up and not try tearing them down all the time. Carle |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 298
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.130.14.122
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 6:18 pm: |
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Carle:
In your above post # 54, you stated the following:
" Why don't you try writing words of encouragement instead of words that tear down and upset others? Why don't you two get a life? Why not be a good example of what a Christian should be. Build others up and not try tearing them down all the time."
Permit me to use some of your own words to show your hypocrisy.
As Bubbleburster on this venue, you stated the following to another poster named Hannah on July 23, 2005.
"You have described yourself perfectly. You can easily shift between a raging maniac calling people stupid, d*** fools, to trying to tell us what the Bride of Christ looks like. That's called double-mindedness and it's a clear sign of mental instability. You, David, are no better. You can perform the same acts. You both have a heart and tongue problem."
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As Bubbleburster on this venue, you stated the following indirectly to David and Hannah on July 24, 2005.
"People like Hannah and the Davids can be bought a dime a dozen. You don't study the Word for yourself. You let every Tom, Dick, and Harry sort through it all for you and present their watered down, comfortable, stiff necked, tight-tied necktie, Sunday morning go meetin', meet me at the bar after church approach to the Gospel of Jesus Christ"...
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As Rooted & Grounded on this venue you stated the following to the general audience on Oct. 23, 2004.
"I stand corrected in saying Bob "crosses the line" or is Ungodly in his actions. That's too mild. He has moved to all-time idiot status. You may not approve of that, but he is what he is and he needs to be stopped. He doesn't follow his own rules. He's a double-talking liar. I'd be ashamed to be his pastor or have any responsibility for him or his actions. No wonder they "hide" from any accountability where he's concerned. He's a pathetic excuse for a man. Grow up Bob!"
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Now!!! My question is this: Is this what you would call good examples of building up others?
You speak out of both sides of your mouth. You speak one way and teach others another. Why don't you try taking a little of your own medicine. Oh! I forgot, your a member of the paid-chat site. You have a different set of rules. You are exempt from the rules of others.
Your motto should be: "Do as I say, not as I do"
Zebra |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 144
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 1:29 am: |
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Much describes a person called Zebra, to my recollection!
The one who prides herself on being black and white, yet is a fitly shade of grey herself.
One who prides herself on being "led by the Spirit", yet asks for details of a rumour so she can revel and spread the gospel of hypocrisy, don't understand why anyone should have concern as to what she says as she has proven herself to be a malicious and double minded person who revels in others misfortune and not only revels, but tries to add to other's misfortune.Ironic that she should be pointing out someone else's hypocrisy
The one who wants to point out everyones shortcomings and ask everyone questions with a view to making them look foolish, yet when she is asked she cleverly avoids with a question.
Question? How does a teacher lead a class, if it is not with a question?
This Zebra is nothing but a heartless and gutless wonder led by a spirit of filth disguised in robes of righteousness, can't you see the proof in the fruit?
Wants to know more about Carman's dealins, why if she thinks he's just a jerk, many jerks in the world, many "Christian" jerks in the world, why not ask about the colour of their underwear and what they had for lunch? |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 146
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 1:46 am: |
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I don't even know the guy and not even sure i would like him if I did know him, however it is very unfair to interfere in his life the way you are attempting to do.Should change your name to hyena, would suit you better |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 147
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 1:56 am: |
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I don't even know the guy and not even sure i would like him if I did know him, however it is very unfair to interfere in his life the way you are attempting to do.Should change your name to hyena, would suit you better |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 299
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.130.155.131
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 10:26 am: |
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Giulia:
You stated in your above post # 147, the following:
"I don't even know the guy and not even sure i would like him if I did know him,"...
I have posted below some of your postings about "the guy you don't even know."
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giulia
Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 52
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.230.36
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:55 pm:
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I totally agree he has contributed some great,uplifting and creative expression to the church and has been a good example.
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Again you posted the following post # 2 on June 3, 2007.
"I think Carman has created some great songs and throughout time has done a great and timeless job of communicating the gospel, I think his work will live on."
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This is only two examples of your comments about "the guy you don't even know." You have made several others. Which is it? Is he "the guy you don't even know" or is he the guy you know enough to make comments about?
In your above post # 144, I use some of your own words "she has proven herself to be a malicious and double minded person "...
I couldn't agree more. (smile)
Zebra |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 301
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.163.247.220
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 6:32 pm: |
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Giulia:
Here is a little story I thought you might like to read. I wrote this just for you in the hope you would forgive me for not being as understanding as I should have been. Please accept this as a peace offering. If you have difficulty reading it, please let me know. I will translate it into English for you.
C'era una volta c'erano tre orsi. L'orso di papà, l'orso di Mamma, e l'orso di Bambino. Hanno vissuto nel forrest. Mentre erano fuori un giorno ragazza è venuta dalla loro casa e le loro cose controllate fuori. Il papà porta la minestra era troppo calda. La mamma porta la minestra era troppo fredda ma il Bambino porta la minestra era la destra giusta. Si è addormentata nel letto di orsi di Bambino perché il Papà porta il letto era troppo duro e la Mamma porta il letto era troppo morbido. Gli orsi sono ritornati presto del e le cose trovate in un disordine. Hanno scoperto che la ragazza nel letto di orsi di Bambino e ha lanciato lei fuori della casa. So che lei ha amato questa storia perché ha avuto qualcuno essendo buttato della casa. So quanta lei ama l'azione fisica.
Please forgive me if my Italian is too correct for you. I believe in time I could dumb it down somewhat.
Zebra |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 148
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 7:55 pm: |
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Yes please translate because for starters you repeat yourself twice in the beginning, but I would expect nothing less from someone who doesn't comprehend the Italian language but just pretends to.
If you do speak any Italian, I bet it is with an accent straniera, there are so many mistakes and it doesn't come naturally to you and it is obvious :
"C'era una volta c'erano tre orsi."
Should be :Una volta c'erano tre orsi
"Hanno vissuto nel forrest."
Should be:
Hanno vissuto nella foresta, as forest is a feminine word.
"Mentre erano fuori un giorno ragazza è venuta dalla loro casa e le loro cose controllate fuori."
This is not a correct sentence, it reads like :whilst they were out one day girl came to their house and their controlling something outside, so although you tried with this (you or your friend or whoever speaks this bastardised language you write which you say is Italian) it is not correct.
"era la destra giusta." In Italian there are two different words for "right" as in right hand and right as in right temp, they are two different words.
"Si è addormentata nel letto di orsi di Bambino perché il Papà porta il letto era troppo duro e la Mamma porta il letto era troppo morbido."
Dove lo portavano il letto? Ancora questo e dialetto e' non e' Italiano classico, ma lo so' che tanta gente in America e' in Australia parlano qualche tipo di dialetto.
"Portare" means to bring something, to take it or even to wear to move or take along, to have a bed is not portare un letto, that is incorrect.This would mean they are transporting the bed somewhere.
"Gli orsi sono ritornati presto del e le cose trovate in un disordine."
should be:
Gli orsi sono ritornati presto e' hanno trovato le cose in disordine.
"nel letto di orsi di Bambino e ha lanciato lei fuori della casa." Huuu? E'ha lanciato lei fuori dalla casa this is not Italian proper.
quando gli orsi l'hanno trovata nel letto del bambino, l'hanno lanciata fuori della casa, sarebbe, "lanciato" is a masculine word and the girl is not masculine as I take it she is the one being thrown out, also the sentence is not right.
"So che lei ha amato questa storia perché ha avuto qualcuno essendo buttato della casa."? E' cosa sarebbe "essendo"
Per lo meno sai usare "lei" e questo mostra un livello di educazione.
Pero' l'istruzione scolastica si vede che non lai avuta perche l'Italiano lo cerchi di parlare ma non ce la fai ha parlarlo corretto.
Io lavoro per il governo divino, e' ha te'chi ti paga per questo lavoro?
You are quite welcome to mock my language and pretend it is not right, heaven knows it is right and so do Italians who know how to speak the language.
(Message edited by Giulia on October 11, 2007) |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 302
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.135.117.221
| | Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 9:56 pm: |
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Giulia:
My deepest apology to you Giulia, I was under the impression that you didn't have the capacity to understand any language above a primitive level. Perhaps I was wrong. I can see that you do understand Italian written in a simple way. I thought for awhile that you didn't know any Italian at all. Now I can see you do have the ability to understand Italian on a level I thought not possible for you.
You wrote in some language the following:
""So che lei ha amato questa storia perché ha avuto qualcuno essendo buttato della casa."? E' cosa sarebbe "essendo"
Per lo meno sai usare "lei" e questo mostra un livello di educazione.
Pero' l'istruzione scolastica si vede che non lai avuta perche l'Italiano lo cerchi di parlare ma non ce la fai ha parlarlo corretto.
Io lavoro per il governo divino, e' ha te'chi ti paga per questo lavoro?
Let's see how well you do on this one. In English is this translated as follows?
"I know that she loved this story because had someone having thrown some house."? And 'thing has been "being"
For it except for you know to use "she" and this show a level of training. Pear tree' the school education is seen that not lamentations had perche the Italian the hoops of to speak but do not there you make has to speak it the correct.
I work for the divine government, and' it has you who pays you for this work?"
You stated that if I spoke Italian it was with "accent straniera" Perhaps I was mocking you when I read your English writings. (smile)
Zebra |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 39
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 207.203.89.1
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 12:08 am: |
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for sure carman has a condo, in daytona beach across from a strip club. called the gentlemen's club.
the hallways are the most frightening thing you have ever seen, it looks like a prison, the doors have the numbers written on them with magic marker some of them, it's beat up, really dirty, over 25 years old, big stickyspills in the hallways and at the elevator doors.
and oh gross man, so gross, a really tacky, big breasted, bikini topped hawaian show. a dirty little restuarant that you would cringe to eat in, cigarette butts all around the front. beater cars and smelly front areas.
everything else practically in the area like condo buildings and mid scale hotels are okay and some things are upscale down the road, but where he is advertising is a dive and looks and feels really oppressed.
the door out to the pool is grimy and has really old metal casing that looks like the worst holiday inn you could imagine. there is a garbage area out front that is totally disgusting and not kept up. the elevators-one is missing the fan and has the button area taped on with scotch tape and the other has so much brown film and gross stuff hanging off of it and bugs, it's disgusting.
why would he even buy a place there? how much time did he spend there? and his addiction to movies and what they alter for him, are further spelled out in that he has the only plasma screen in the joint.
that was for him, never doubt it.
it's really...sad.
and it's really bad that he would give anyone the opportunity to see all of that wicked and unclean and darkening media and advertise it as a minister.
friends of ours went there and looked at rooms and oh my sweet alabama. rusted all over and black moldy air conditioning vents and dirty walls. old old old tubs and dirty smelly rooms with broken statues and weird decor.
completely gross balconies.
he should be taken out to the woodshed for the misreprensentations about that place.
it's literally a one star, dirty, sad, tacky place and that is no misrepresentation.
baloney is something that everyone there would imbibe on. what happened to the man who had a five bedroom home in tulsa we hear? and a nice home in nashville in old hickory or something like that which is nice neighborhood? did he start drinking or have a nervous breakdown?
is he conscious? no need to repeat the TV arguement. just tell him to cancel the pay channels and 500 other ones if he is going to rent it out on a ministry myspace page. does he care about anyone else or just money?
does he care about himself?
no doubt this is why he isn't married.
BALONEY STOP IT, JUST STOP IT. HE IS THE BEST MARRIAGE MATERIAL MINISTER IN THIS UNIVERSE!
has he ever slipped across the street with a baseball cap on in sweats, and gone into the "gentleman's club" because of influence and driveness from things on the tube? nobody would know him there and if he has 'it' on screen it can compell him by brain or by demon to hit the club.
what is all of this trouble-compromise that people talk about in his life, is he going to be upfront and testify so he can help other guys?
what is V?
ciao
what are you people saying???
hey tell the man to sell that thing in italian and to repent for what he has seen and heard. yeah those things he has allowed into his spirit man and his mind that should be kept clean and disciplined.
still can't think of why he would live somewhere so gross. then again- only God knows what he watches with the evil and grossest things you can imagine on his plasma.
catch richard roberts interview on Larry King. he cleared some things up!
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giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 149
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
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Ha ha ha ha ha!Zebra, proprio mi fai ridere. Adesso ho capito il tuo mestiere. Sei un pagliaccio!
Zebra, not only do you not have any intestinal fortitude. Obvious in the way you use others IP numbers, but you also pride yourself in your shame because it is very obvious to me now what you are doing:
you have an Italian dictionary and translate one word at a time. Only thing is that the grammar is different in Italian and you must change the whole sentence, not just the word, otherwise it doesn't translate coherently.
That is why you half translate what I say but of course it would sound wrong to you when you don't know how to string a coherent sentence together in Italian.
So you are proud in your mistakes, what a clown, what a weak hearted, misguided clown you are! Bet you are also fat, do you good to do a dance.
Just crank up the volume and cut loose a bit, you know you want to. Perhaps it would do you good and alllow you to release some o dat frustration u got
Hey Baloney! Do you ever go on mission trips? Like to third world places?
My humble two bedroom joint in a working class area looks like a five star in comparison!
I got a bed, two chairs, a table a small telly (I hardly ever watch) and a computer.
When Christ lights up my soul and soaks me in His oil, the place looks more like 6 star, that is the type of wealth that really matters and that will last even when an earthquake happens!
That is the type of wealth that will make a trillionaire look like a peasant.
(Message edited by Giulia on October 12, 2007) |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 303
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.134.231.168
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Giulia:
In your above post # 149, you stated the following: "Zebra, proprio mi fai ridere. Adesso ho capito il tuo mestiere. Sei un pagliaccio!"
My answer to that is; I'm glad I make you laugh. Laughter is good for the person. No! I have never been a clown.
In one of your earlier posts on Factnet you wrote the following: I will let your own words speak for me.
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giulia
New member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.177.238
Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 7:41 am:
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I also want to say that I am ashamed of even posting on here and interacting as I think the mentality on here is of a very low standard.
I think many have issues and pointing at others does not lessen your own as when you judge a brother or sister you judge the law.
Still we need to be discerning and divide the word rightfully and truthfully as the spiritual will judge even the angels, but not the carnal, the carnal will fall under the same judgment they give as it is written "you will be judged with the same standard you use to judge" (using my own words), but the spiritual have already been judged by the rule which they use to judge and have removed the log from their eye.
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Also! Have you ever been to Melbourne, VIC, Australia?
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newlife
Intermediate Member
Username: newlife
Post Number: 178
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 67.72.98.82
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GOOD GOUBLY OSTROM-BITS WHAT A BUNCH OF SPATULATED
SPARGONEY.
Pineapple, anyone? |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 304
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.163.74.234
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Baloney:
After reading your above post # 39, I believe I should respond to your post in the words of one Rooted & Grounded, a member of the paid-chat site:
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On Oct. 22, 2004, she posted this concerning C on Factnet:
"As far as Carman promoting himself as a secular entertainer, I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. One of the most "appealing" things, and maybe that's not the correct word I should be using, has always been the fact that there has never been a doubt in my mind and in many people that I personally know, Who or What Carman is about. I've never perceived him as a "look at me" person, but rather a very humble individual. I think Carman's biggest "fault" is something beyond his control, his appearance."
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On Oct. 24, 2004, she posted this concerning C on Factnet:
"All these years it's been about Jesus. He's never taken Jesus out, and I'm sure he never will. Carman's call is not yours or mine. I'm positive there is no decision made that is not done prayerfully. I don't have the resources nor the capability to do what he's done for the Lord. He's used his gifts and talents soley for the Lord, which cannot be said for many crossover artists that have spent much of their career atop a fence with one foot dangling on either side. Carman's real. His message is real. His message reaches down into the hearts and souls of every generation and denomination. That's good enough for me."
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On Oct. 25, 2004 she posted this concerning Bob Rouse in response to her fellow paid-site member on Factnet:
"Plain....
That's Bob at his finest. Self-serving. He set this train in motion, and he's sitting back enjoying the ride. However, what he doesn't seem to realize is that there is going to be track switching real soon, and I'm afraid the one he's gonna be on has a bridge out.
I've repeatedly said he was a double talking liar and I stand by that 100%. And, he IS a sorry excuse for a Christian. I think alot of people need to wake up to what's really going on here. Bob's an enabler of the twisted mindsets of many women who simply could not bear to see the name of Carman and the word marriage, in the same sentence. He's sitting back laughing at all of them."
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One can see that this poster truly agrees with what the Lord taugh in James 3:10 when he said: "Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethern, these things ought not so to be."
Of course she doesn't put C above any other Minister or Ministry. She treats them all the same. She is not bias in any way, shape or form.(smile)
Zebra |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 150
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
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I make no secret of living in Melbourne Australia, wouldn't take a clown long to guess that from my IP or from somewhere else on the internet.
Difference between you and I Zebra is I don't hide behind false names and IP's, neither do any of my true brothers and sisters in Christ.
The spiritual will judge even the angels and yes I judge myself with the same standard I judge others. |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 305
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.134.3.70
| | Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 7:13 pm: |
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Giulia:
Again, I can see how you are sooo ready to jump the gun. I did not ask if you lived in Melbourne, Australia. The question was and I post it once more is:
Have you ever been to Melborne,VIC,Australia?
Your last statement in your above post # 150, states:
"The spiritual will judge even the angels and yes I judge myself with the same standard I judge others."
My question to you is this:
In your above post # 149, where you made the following statement; "So you are proud in your mistakes, what a clown, what a weak hearted, misguided clown you are! Bet you are also fat, do you good to do a dance."
Would you consider this statement judging another?
Your beginning to sound a lot like the girls from the paid-chat site.
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zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 306
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.134.3.70
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Giulia:
One last thing today. You stated in your post # 164, dated, Nov, 15, 2006, under the name Julia the following:
"I like this board, I get so challenged here. I know many don't like me because of my past and even many that are Christians would also be reserved about liking me as just being my friend can be bad for people's reputation."
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In your post # 3, under the name Giulia, you posted the following on June 3, 2007:
"I also want to say that I am ashamed of even posting on here and interacting as I think the mentality on here is of a very low standard."
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My first question to you is: Which one is it? Do you like this board or are you ashamed of posting here?
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My second question to you is: Were you in prison or were you employed at a prison?
Zebra |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 152
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
| | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 3:35 am: |
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Zebra,
I am sure you can find all the answers to all your questions if you just search through the past a little (like you so love doing anyway). Obvious you got nothing to do with yer time.
So do you despise the girls whose IP you use? You'd have to really. Because it's setting them up to take your flack hey?
So what's the go with you? You got knocked back by Carman hey? Is that why you so bitter and are so nosey about him?
Is that why you want to find more dirt on him? |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 153
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 9:58 am: |
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myspace.com/gigiulia, this is me. In case you were interested. |
zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 307
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.134.95.91
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 3:23 pm: |
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Giulia:
I must say I'm a bit surprised at your appearance on your MySpace site. I pictured you as an ugly woman. You are far from that. Not too bad for a 44 yer old.
May I see a picture of your mugg-shot from earlier days.
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giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 154
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.134.168
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Haven't got one up atm, perhaps I will one day, if you just imagine me boned out with bags under my eyes and my hair all over the place, that's what I was like.
God has done amazing things and is still doing some amazing stuff in my life.
These days people think I am a police woman or a security or a lawyer or teacher or something, God has changed me so much, even people in my past, they don't recognize me and they are amazed when they see me.
Yes God has kept me well and renews me like the eagle.
Thanks for the compliment, I am sure God will receive it graciously!
(Message edited by Giulia on October 14, 2007)
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zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 308
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.136.203.47
| | Posted on Monday, October 15, 2007 - 5:44 pm: |
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Giulia:
Your welcome, and it was a sincere compliment.
I completely agree with you that God has done the changing in all of us. I compliment you for giving God the credit for the change that has taken place in your life.
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Girls from the paid-chat site:
Some of the girls are in a struggle at this time. C is not conducting himself as he should, especially on his MySpace site. You want to let him know he is wrong but you do not have the courage to tell him. A few may even let him know but it will not be in a direct way. You will handle it with "kid gloves" You do not want to upset your great leader in any way, shape or form. You have always felt that C was Gods gift to the world. However, now you are asking questions. Why is he doing the things he's doing on MySpace?
I believe he is doing things as he has always done them. It's just now that you are beginning to see more clearly than before. Perhaps the past has caught up with him. Perhaps your eyes are beginning to open. Perhaps more and more church concerts will be cancelled. Time will tell.
If any of you plan on writing to C about how he is handling himself on MySpace, forget it. He is going to do what he has always done. He's not interested in what you think about how he does things.
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baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 45
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 72.254.138.147
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are you two going to go out?
how about for halloween zebra dresses up like carmster and guila dresses up like jan?
meet in hawaii, and go dancing to carmsters new disc and then wash each others feet in the name of carlton.
or go to the Holy Land Park and pray the compromise that is coming over it out, and for people to be comforted and sustained in their desire to maintain a holy illustration of Israel and the ministry of Christ.
baloney...you scallywag. you dog.
guila, don't act like a lawyer or any other profession and deceive others. be yourself and let God's light really shine legitimately.
i would attempt to say something in italian to the two of you, but the best i can do is-ciao.
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zebra
Intermediate Member
Username: zebra
Post Number: 312
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.131.117.30
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Baloney:
Not only do you have a way with words but you also have a sense of humor. If I were a member of the paid-chat site I would become very angry at you. But since I'm not I must laugh. Australia is just too far for me to travel to meet Giulia.
All I can say to you is this: "baloney...you scallywag. you dog."
If you have any more words of enlightment, please lay it on us.
Zebra |
giulia
Intermediate Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 156
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 59.101.151.26
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I've been to a screenwriters conference therfefore was not able to reply, didn't have time to look on the net, Fred Schepisi was teaching me some stuff, (not that I am dropping names or anything
Lawyer hey? Not the first time I have been mistaken for a lawyer, in fact at the conference a few thought I was running it, like management or something. Hey that's just me, that's the light shining through me so please don't tell how you think I should act and who you think I am and am not, because you don't know me and who I am is not dictated by what you think I should be or am or whatever you think, and really what a mozzarella says on factnet with no love don't really count to me, in fact, the ungodlies at the conference have shown me more respect than what you have so, happy mortadella and salami to you |
baloney
Junior Member
Username: baloney
Post Number: 46
Registered: 9-2007
Posted From: 72.254.151.102
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yes but what's their motive? the people who respect you? do they know the real you? your background and your current issues and temper dynamics and controllingness? jezebel domination parts of you?
and why should we respect you just off the bat until you have earned it?
truthfulness and integrity and a sense of balance all blended up with humility and "other centeredness" is what gains respect around here.
screenwriters conference. that's cool and at the same time whoopee. there are screenwriter's conferences every month all over the world.
and if you are acting like a manager when you are not one, then you are doing some pretty good sorcery with your behavior and it shows low self esteem that you have to rely on fantasy and fiction and your apparent bossiness to pretend to be something you are not.
it's not light shinning through you it's you being dominating, maybe aggressive and possibly jezebel spiritually.
it's false light.
have you done any study on the jezebel spirit?
mozzarella? i am not the chessie one. you are confusing me for a moment with our good friend and good example and COMPLETELY HONEST FELLOW, carmangnia.
recall the verses in the Bible about humility?
and not thinking more highly of yourself than you ought?
remember...if you exalt yourself, you will have to be abased my little pannini. but...if you abase yourself...and humble yourself...for real- God will exalt you in the healthy and appropriate kind of way...in "due" time.
fantasy land. dungeons and dragons game etc..."role playing"...acting. magic.
stuff like that.
if you are not running it... ah hem.. shouldn't act like you are for a sense of power or fantasy. it's a lie. be sorry not silly.
Fred teaches alot of people stuff and that's why he's there.
it's not personal guilia and there is no magic in it.
you wouldn't want to be full of baloney at a conference putting on airs and takig credit that wasn't yours would ya? you are too in love with Jesus for that kind of salami and you wouldn't want to deceive people???
a lie can feel really good. for a while.
but glad you had fun. just be in reality.
that's good for you and good for others.
ciao
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