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     shem Intermediate Member Username: shem Post Number: 272 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 121.54.96.4 |
A new Gnostic / Spiritual / Mystic discussion forum has just been started for all genuine seekers of Truth. It is called: \b('THE GNOSTIC WAY') and the address is: http://gnosis.forumsland.com Come and visit and see what you think. Peace, Love, & Understanding | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 701 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
It would be interesting to see how many of those caught-up in the pseudo-christian cult of pentecostalism see themselves as gnostics. | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2375 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 70.16.219.231 |
i am curious ATM, you spend a lot of time criticizing others, so what is your religious affiliation? what ever it is i am sure i could find enough wrong with it to spend years criticizing it. please tell me so that i can get started right away. i am getting old and i want to know that i have done something worthwhile in my life before i die. | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 702 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
Mr. fatherofaking: I am an historic orthodox Christian. Don't worry, you criticize enough now. | ||
| fatherofaking Senior Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 2378 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 70.16.219.231 |
i guess i deserved that. sorry. i try hard not to criticize people. you can see that i don't like to see it done to others. | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 706 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
Mr. fatherofaking: Sorry? Actually, I am happy for those who criticize. Where would we turn for a Big Mac without a restaurant critic? Where would we find a good movie without a movie critic? If not for the criticism of our coaches, would we have succeeded at sports? Without the criticism of our teachers, would we have gained 'book' learnin? Without the criticism of our mother . . . oh well. | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 3654 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.206.202 |
so tatm ... you were somehow told by your mother ha ha | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 709 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
Mr. Arron: Yes, Mr. Arron, my mother told me there were folks like you in this world. I just didn't believe her. She, also, told me about blue moons. I, now, have seen one of those too. | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 3655 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.206.202 |
a blue moon. ive never seen one so i was right you have been offended or hurt by some one in the pentecostal movement and take it out on all pentecostals. so that is the end of the matter . even though you have not answered my question i know now what the answer is. but why you would always bring up my deseased wife ill never know for i was in holiness before i met her. she lived a good life and was saved. even tho you may not believe in being saved. was it your nother that turned you was it your dad?? what happened that you are so against pentecostals? | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 711 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
Mr. Arron: I was making a joke at your expense. I have never been hurt by or offended by anyone in the pseudo-christian cult of pentecostalism. In fact, Mr. Arron, should you decide to acknowledge the truth, I have never and will never engage in personal attacks. I do take great exception to the lunacies of your religion. "Should you decide to remove your head from the sandbox (as the old saying goes)", you will have to admit that I have used the Bible exclusively to refute the lunacies of your religion. But then to admit the truth would be to deny your religion. | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 712 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
gnosis: noun : esoteric knowledge of spiritual truth held by the ancient Gnostics to be essential to salvation Esoteric: noun 1 a : designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone *a body of esoteric legal doctrine — B. N. Cardozo* b : requiring or exhibiting knowledge that is restricted to a small group *esoteric terminology* *esoteric strategies*; broadly : difficult to understand *esoteric subjects* 2 a : limited to a small circle *engaging in esoteric pursuits* b : PRIVATE, CONFIDENTIAL *an esoteric purpose* 3 : of special, rare, or unusual interest Back to the original question, how many pentecostals see themselves as gnostics? | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 713 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
occult: adjective 1 : not revealed : SECRET 2 : not easily apprehended or understood : ABSTRUSE, MYSTERIOUS 3 : hidden from view : CONCEALED 4 : of or relating to the occult 5 : not manifest or detectable by clinical methods alone *occult carcinoma*; also : not present in macroscopic amounts *occult blood in a stool* occult: noun : matters regarded as involving the action or influence of supernatural or supernormal powers or some secret knowledge of them — used with the Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictionary I would as ask how many pentecostals see themselves as practicing the occult? Addendum to above post on Gnosis. All definitions were taken from Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictionary. Sorry I forgot to give credit where credit is due. | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 3660 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.206.202 |
there is nothing as i have stated many times that is esential to salvation but faith in THE BLOOD OF JESUS WHICH WAS SHED AT CALVARY. if a person does not believe on JESUS AS THE SON OF GOD or if one dosent believe IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS. they ar lost and will go to hell | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 3661 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.206.202 |
there is nothing as i have stated many times that is esential to salvation but faith in THE BLOOD OF JESUS WHICH WAS SHED AT CALVARY. if a person does not believe on JESUS AS THE SON OF GOD or if one dosent believe IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS. they ar lost and will go to hell | ||
| bluewater2 Senior Member Username: bluewater2 Post Number: 3425 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 72.130.156.151 |
Oh brother. That is mind blowing. | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 714 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
M(r)(s). bluewater2: Actually, it is not far fetched. Let us take the occult first. In his September 1906 "Apostolic Faith" newspaper, the homosexual Charles Fox Parham acknowledged that pentecostalism's altar was awash in the occult. Who would know better than the inventor of that religion? But wait, evangelistic records clearly indicate pentecostalism has its greatest growth in regions with a rich history in the occult. Gnosis or esoteric knowledge. "Designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone." Have you ever considered faked infantile gibberish? Interesting, those who act as 'interpreters' always use King James English. Dake Family Publishing has a picture of Finis Jennings Dake sitting in a hardware store window quoting the entire New Testament while in a Holy Ghost inspired trance. Just a thought. | ||
| bluewater2 Senior Member Username: bluewater2 Post Number: 3426 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 75.42.171.14 |
Christianity requires a belief in mysticism and bizzare ideas. "The Blood of Jesus" reminds me of those chicken feet that you always see in the voodoo and santaria inspired movies. And how do you believe "on" Jesus? It is just tooooo wierd. It is time to bring some sense back to this board by re-activating the atheist/agnostic discussions here. It has turned into a christion on christian "blood bath". | ||
| arron Senior Member Username: arron Post Number: 3664 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.119.206.202 |
tatm.. no for if i was a frenchman , then i would interpet in the frenck lanquage. the one in other countries interpet in the lanquage of thay nation | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 715 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
M(r)(s). bluewater2 mysticism: Noun 1. the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality reported by mystics 2 : the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight) 3 a : vague speculation : a belief without sound basis b : a theory postulating the possibility of direct and intuitive acquisition of ineffable knowledge or power Merrian-Websters 11th Collegiate Dictionary. I didn't see Christianity in there . . . but occult . . . looks real good. Agnostic: Noun 1 : a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something Agnostic: Adjective 1 : of, relating to, or being an agnostic or the beliefs of agnostics 2 : NONCOMMITTAL Merriam-Websters 11th Collegiate Dictionary I can certainly see that!! | ||
| shem Intermediate Member Username: shem Post Number: 273 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 121.54.96.4 |
What has any of this to do with the opening post? Has anyone actually taken an 'open-minded' look to see what is actually discussed there? Perhaps then you could make some \i(honest) comments - although I somehow doubt it. | ||
| the_apostolic_truth_ministries Advanced Member Username: the_apostolic_truth_ministries Post Number: 717 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 12.217.145.168 |
Did the theme have a thread? Wait, make that did the thread have a seam? Did I get it right? Maybe I should take sides with the agnostics here. |
