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trsrinheaven
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We need some answers from any of your Carman experts.

Q: I have heard a number of people say for a number of years that Carman is gay.

Q: Was Carman married one time just a short time ago for some ridiculous short time like a week or so? to one of his friends ex wives?

Q: Did Carman have a gay relationship with a well known minister who is married?

Why has Carman who must be close to fifty years old by now never been married except this one recent time for a week or so?..

Are these just rumors?

Anyone know anything?????

Just trying to clear this up .....
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Trsrinheaven:

Very interesting questions. I do not have the time at present to comment on these questions. Perhaps, I will have more time in the near future. Maybe someone can answer some of your questions in the mean time. I look forward to reading some of the answers.

Please be prepared to feel the wrath of the girls from the paid-chat site, especially those of the "inner circle"

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trsrinheaven
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We need some answers?

You carman experts should know or are you afraid of the truth???? in denial? or ....?
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zebra
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Trsrinheaven:

I certainly am not a C expert. However, I do know a little about C as well as the girls who support him. I would say that the girls of the paid-chat site in general, are afraid of the truth about much in their lives. They seem to not want to live in reality. Therefore, they try to live through others.
The rumor that C is gay has been around for a long time. I do not know if he is or isn't. I do know if he were those who blindly support him would never admit to that. If he were gay the girls of the paid-chat site would come up with reasons for him being that way. Some of their reasons might be:
1. He is being gay so that he might be able to reach others with salvation.
2. He's that way because people who don't support him drove him to it.
3. He was born that way.
4. MM or Rose drove him to it.

I'm sure they would come up with something to try and justify what he was doing. All the while, they would be ill within themselves for what he was doing.
Just a few of my thoughts on the subject.
_________________________________________________

Girls from the paid-chat site:

Are you having any luck finding out who Zebra is? IP numbers will get you nowhere. I use the IP's of other people to post on Factnet. I never use my own. Even if you discover a certain persons IP identity it will not be them. It will be me using their IP number. Just thought I'd give you a heads up. Might save you some time and effort in the future.


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it would seem that carlton was gay with carman spiritually and emotions. if a guy is too close to the mother he can go into those kind of things.

could be carlton gave him some bad "discernment" or wrong counsel at some point. and so he didn't marry based on that. yeah carlton is a real controller.

he is being scheduled and controlled by a woman who dresses in real drag type makeup and clothes, and he seems to like it.
he has had so many girlfriends and fiances someone told us who knows his history, it's doubtable.

if he watches gay porn on the pay channels, it will change him and harm him.
you have to say no. you can't try it or try to see what its all about. it's a weird strong spirit and seeing that will change your perspective. that's what the devil wants to do.

don't let it into your home, don't try it, run.
believe the Bible. run. eschew. flee. it's bondage and it's demonic power and it can change your mind in ways that are hard to overcome.
seeing porn is never good and seeing perverse porn is really negative and really demonic.
very dark. very. life changing.

not worth it.
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trsrinheaven
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baloney?
Carlton who?
Who is carlton you speak about?
Is Carlton gay?
Is Carlton Carmans gay affair mate.

Q: Was Carman married one time just a short time ago for some ridiculous short time like a week or so? to one of his friends ex wives?

Q: Did Carman have a gay relationship with a well known minister who is married?

Why has Carman who must be close to fifty years old by now never been married except this one recent time for a week or so?..
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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John Wesley was only married for a short period late in life. What does that have to do with spatulated spargoney? Are you trying to get a date with him? OH! by the by, John Wesley was also controlled by a domineering woman(mother).
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trsrinheaven
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tatm,
Shut the dung trap you have for a brain.

Stick your stupid ignorant stalking dung and evil innuendo's back in the pit where you came from.

I asked the simple question due to years of facts and gay affair statements.

IS Carman Gay?

IF a person is married for less than a week (let alone a so called minister)and the public record divorce papers state the problems pointing to homosexual things.
If he married his so called best friends exwife who has had strange things about herself made public is that wierd enough?
You shall know them by their fruit?
Who is this fool?
Why doesn't Carman clear this up for all to see.
Wouldn't that be in his best interest?

Did Carman have the gay affairs he has been accused of.

Some with some TRUTH and FACTS not stupid innuendo hate speech like apostolic idiot please reply.
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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M(r)(s). trsrinheaven:

The founder of your religion was a child molesting homosexual as proven by your religions' on history book. If sexuality matters, why did you get suckered into that false religion?

Let us see. Finis Jenning Dake, author of your religion's Bible, was in prison for taking a sixteen-year-old-girl across state lines, when he wrote that bible. Again, if sexuality is important, why?
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trsrinheaven
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tatm,

You are being reported to the moderator for stalking and continued other harassment.
Take your off the wall comments and stick them back in the pit where you and they came from.

Now who knows the answer to these questions about Carmen and why hasn't he answered the charges?
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the_apostolic_truth_ministries
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M(r)(s). trsrinheaven:

Quoting: "You are being reported to the moderator for stalking and continued other harassment."
End quote.

Thank you for your kindly remarks. So you really did not know the origins of your religion? Amazing.
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trsrinheaven
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tatm,
Besides the actual original Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew texts...I use the KING JAMES BIBLE.
I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT DAKES.
The KJV is one of the most scholarly ENGLISH works and closest to the original language in translation.

SO STOP YOUR PESTY STUPID LIES AND QUESTIONS!
NEXT!
I do not have a RELIGION! You do.
Religion kills people.
Relgions destroys people.
Religion steals from people.
The Bible is easy to understand (though it is Holy Spirit spiritually discerned so you need to ask the Holy Spirit for help-HE WROTE IT) yet religion helps people misunderstand it.

Religion makes people robots with no discernment.
Religion keeps people from intimately knowing God, AND following the Holy Spirit.

I have a REALATIONHIP!
I have a RELATIONSHIP. Get it!
I have a RELATIONSHIP with God through his word and His Holy Spirit.
Something you are far away from and just here to be a pesty crow.

If your off the wall questions and ridiculous comments weren't wo stupid perhaps you might learn soemthing.

In the mean time we have a quetion for you.
One of my friends asked me, AFTER READING YOUR distorted OCD posts, if your mother ever had any children who were not born mentally unbalanced?
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rachelengland
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Two peas in a pod..
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carle
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trsrinheaven
No, Carman is not gay and even if he was it wouldn't matter to me. He has been sent to this world with talents far beyond those of any other man. He has changed more lives than any person who has ever lived.
I'm not afraid of or ashamed of anything he has done. So what, if he is gay. He would use that talent to reach more people for the Kingdom. I'm so tired of all the critical statements made about him. I want it to stop and stop now.
Just listen to his music. It makes me float on a cloud. Besides that he is so good looking. Really good looking when he wears those black clothes. When he leaves some of the buttons unfastened, I can hardly stand it. Why can't people just leave him alone.
Carle
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trsrinheaven
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carle,
just the facts
just the facts-and you obviously have none except your blind lusts.

First Carmen has not changed more lives than anyone living. You have one limited life if you believe that? It concerns me.
Are you a man or a woman?

You are one lust puppy for Carmens looks, body and his "buttons unfastened".

If Carmen stands for Gods word it is clear in Gods word to not have physical lust in your heart for someone. The Bible makes it clear only marriage in the Lord among two Christians between a man and a woman is where sex is ok.
Your sexual statements show your lust. Who cares about Carmens looks in his black clothes, or his buttons unfastened so you can hardly stand it at best they are fleeting.
At the least you have a problem with your thought life.

You also think it's ok for a representative of Jesus to have the unBiblical lifestyle of a homosexual. That doesn't fly with Jesus.

First and foremost you need a relationship with the coolest true real man and that is Jesus. Carmen is no Jesus.

I want only facts.
Is Carmen Gay?
Why has he not married at his age?
Why?
What is wrong with this picture?
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nikita
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carle,

.....Jesus is the one that has changed more lives than any person who has ever lived...NOT Carman.
It appears that you are worshiping the wrong person.

(I think even Carman would agree)
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zebra
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Carle:

I am in complete agreement with you when you stated in your above post # 55, the following:

"No, Carman is not gay and even if he was it wouldn't matter to me."
"I'm not afraid of or ashamed of anything he has done."
Carle, I believe when it comes to C it doesn't matter what he is or what he does as far as you're concerned. Do you enjoy his MySpace site?

Also, I had no idea that being gay was a talent that one had. Talk about being "upside down" one has to reach beyond reality to make a statement such as that.

I believe the last part of your above post speaks for itself. You must be a single female. A member of the paid-chat site. A lonely female looking for reality. In the words of one singer; "Looking for love in all the wrong places"

Question: Did you sign the petition (poem) that was circulated in the Paid-chat site asking C to come to the site because he was missed so badly?
_________________________________________________

Trsrinheaven $ Nikita

Excellent posts by the both of you. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Also, to answer the question by Trsrinheaven as to Carle being a man or woman. The answer is, she is a female. She has been and continues to be a member of the paid-chat site. One can certainly see how hung-up she is over her guy. Go and read some of her post on Factnet under the following names:
1. Bubbleburster
2. Rooted & Grounded
3. Keeblerelf
4. Skittlechickey
5. Who knows how many others.

Also, on MMM site she has registered and or posted under different names. Names such as:
1. Lvn4Hm
2. Carle
3. Carman
4. Who knows how many others.


Zebra
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Ladies:

Below is a copy of the petition that I ask Carle about in my above post # 309. I believe one can see how most of the members of the paid-chat site feel about their "Champion"
_________________________________________________

"Who's Missin' In Chat"

We miss you in the chatroom,
You used to stop and just shoot the breeze.
Don't make us have to beg you,
We're hoping it will work with just "please."

The solution for exclusion of the chat
is just one trip in....
One taste of all the chaos
and soon you'll be a regular again.

Now tell us WHO WHO WHO'S MISSIN' IN CHAT...

One more thing you should know,
before you stumble into the room.
There's a dress code we're enforcing,
we've designed especially for you...

C A R M A N

Wear the Black Jeans....

C A R M A N

Boots and Black Shirt too....

C A R M A N

A few less buttons...

Could you tuck that thing in just this once? 0;)
_________________________________________________

Isn't that just the sweetest thing you have ever read. The girls from the paid-chat site really went wild over it.

Zebra
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carle
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Z-bra
How dare you put that petition on this forum. That petition was for the members only and you have plastered it all over factnet.
When are you going to stop what you're doing? You are in no position to continue to badger the girls who love and support C.
As far as the rest of the posters, you are all the same. You only come here to bring discord among the ladies of the members only site. Someday I will find out who all of you are and you will be sorry for all the things you have said about him and us.
Carle
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giulia
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Carle you need help dear, seriously you do. No wonder Carman doesn't come to the chat site, he's probably scared of you all, I certainly would be!
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zebra
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Giulia:

Good to hear from you again on this particular forum. Blessings to you downunder.
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Carle:

In response to your above post # 56.
I want to apologize to you for posting that petition on Factnet without checking with you first. I wasn't thinking and I ask for your forgiveness. Would you also ask the other members of the inner circle from the paid-chat site to forgive me as well? I promise, I will try and do better when posting in the future.

I want to make it up to you by reposting the petition except this time I want to include the names of those who, from the paid-chat site supported the petition:
-------------------------------------------------
"Who's Missin' In Chat"

We miss you in the chatroom,
You used to stop and just shoot the breeze.
Don't make us have to beg you,
We're hoping it will work with just "please."

The solution for exclusion of the chat
is just one trip in....
One taste of all the chaos
and soon you'll be a regular again.

Now tell us WHO WHO WHO'S MISSIN' IN CHAT...

One more thing you should know,
before you stumble into the room.
There's a dress code we're enforcing,
we've designed especially for you...

C A R M A N

Wear the Black Jeans....

C A R M A N

Boots and Black Shirt too....

C A R M A N

A few less buttons...

Could you tuck that thing in just this once? 0;)

holyholli3

angella
joyce marie

kingsjewel

karensw

chiquitta

Vada F Allen

Data :-(

Crafty1

Di

3j

Gatorgirl

Mel...is...sa (The Enforcer)

Aprilsmom

jann

BellaMia(haven't been there myself in a long while!)

Spirit Led

EThompsen

Karin Thomsen-forget the black-I liked it
when you used to wear bright colored clothes!!!!!
_________________________________________________

Perhaps you frightened me so much in your post # 56, I just couldn't help myself. (smile)
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Carle,
I have never been to any "members only site" so I hope your post does not refer to me.

Now that being said, you did not respond to the post that I wrote to you on Oct. 16th (see above)

I expressed a concern for you, that you were worshiping the wrong person.. when you said.."He (Carman) has changed more lives than anyone who has ever lived".

I posted to you that, "Jesus"...is the one who has changed more lives than anyone who has ever lived! NOT Carman. I also suggested that I believe that even Carman would agree.

I can't believe that you actually threatened people by saying that when you find out who they are they will be sorry.

Carle I pray that you get your priorities straight and realize that Jesus is your Savior... again not Carman.

As someone else said above, "Jesus is the coolest man who ever lived"

You are very fortunate that the factnet admin., somehow must have overlooked your threat to these people and did not ban you from factnet.
Most people who threaten others here.. are banned.

Peace
Nikita

(Message edited by nikita on October 18, 2007)
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there aren't any substantiated rumors of carman having an affair with a minister,(male).
well not that we have ever heard of.

he apparently acts like a victim to the "minute marriage" he went into and supposedly was the total innocent party in, (not very manly)and attacked the woman saying she is a sociopath and accused him of being weird and abusive.

God forgives but carman pretends to be someone he is not. that's called lying and deceiving or manipulation.

so does jan, look at her costume. and it's a sex symbol costume too. truly gross.

who can possibly know what the truth is. pity isn't the answer or non Christian values and actions. you have to feel bad for both of them, and the woman carman "married", in addition- all people that were involved and the Body for the example.

carle, you aren't for real are you girl?
are you playing the infamous good cop bad cop routine for someone?
gay-a talent? what?

so you are threatening people? aren't you in the emotional throes of stalking people that you don't agree with on spiritual and ministry matters? we don't think you are real, we think you are a device.

you and the buttons. sad really and a tad sick.
lust as a virtue of ministry. since when?
carman is trustworthy or lustworthy?

people being banned on factnet? if you are all correct apparently you may be banned from cwo if you say anything they don't "approve" or if you challenge the "authoritarian" structure there. not very secure are they or appropriate?

so you have to sexually appeal to carman to get him to set up a chat? do they require you to be "visible" to engage in the video chat, or can you remain private while he uses visuals?

it's a point a good point, that jan would not place him in a public "WORLD" influencing position, if he wasn't sexually interesting. if he looked like dave reever or tony melendez, there is no way he would be on every monday or whenever, for months.

some of us care about what is preached to the WORLD and if you read the Bible believing God, He is quite clear on causing people to stumble, or teaching things that defile or compromise.

he is in fact advertising people whose lives don't reflect Christianity, and who indulge in things that we are called to forsake and abstain from. just what version of being a Christian does TBN and carman the face, preach or live? jan has a sexually charged costume and voice and supposedly as long as she is speaking of things that pertain to God it's all just fine.
baloney.

He is a Holy God and Jesus did tells us to be holy as He is holy. carman would call that, or maybe those lonely apparently obsessed girls, (would love to see their photo or video feed)too strict or judgmental?

what is steven yake's spirituality like and paul jr. and matt and laurie? seriously what are they really like? and don't we submit one to another and aren't we supposed to be people who have no secrets and no covered over sins? since when do we ignore for carnal demand, the scriptures that say to go to someone and tell them in love, what their sin may be or is?

since when do public type figures who live off the financial contributions of others have some right to be clandestine, to sin if they feel like it and re-define what it actually means to be a Christian... and to accuse others of being hateful or overly judgmental if they desire or demand substanative accountability?

what about all of that ill will and praying against even those who would question? that isn't healthy psychology.

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carle if you are in earnest and a real follower of, disciple of carman, then girlfriend- you are troubled and very- off spiritually and personally.
have you ever had a real conversation with Jesus and heard Him answer you?
can you produce verses in the Bible you have, (do you have one) that back up your position expressed here and statements?
are you of Apollos?

it would NOT be okay if carman were gay.
and he has not had the greatest impact ever.
he should be concerned about his impact on tbn and the fact that behind what he says and does, it all flushes out like being some defense and validation of himself to the audience at large. centered on him even though it sounds like it is on God.

carman being narcissitic and inappropriate with and on tbn.
BALONEY!!!!!!!!! you charlatain.

hey to the others here. if you want to find out about carlton, go to the archives of msnbc and see him as the "victim" to oral roberts and the new pastor of the disenfranchised and the man with the new revelation that there is no Hell and lesbian (witches-spiritually) make "him feel" dizzy when she washed his feet and he "deemed it" holy, so that's a sign from God.

one cannot create the scenes for more camera shots that put his face in line with stained glass windows, (he has nothing to do with didn't pay for them, didn't design them etc) statues of saints and historic church leaders and over and over again so that his face is burned into your conscience. this is a real cult leader and person who has gone off in the name of something that sounds good, but provides an easy mark for preying on others and maintaining a fantasy world of both victim and savior. yeah, carlton is my savior. and his face his image his rejection and faux nobility in being "persecuted" that's our new religion and icon.
baloney.

see how many closeups on his face you can count. really strong spiritual warfare that most people just scoff at. he is a seducer and deceiver and is centering the "new gospel" on himself.

this is true heresy and false leadership, cult leaders always emphasize themselves above truth and have people who will defend them vigorously that are under the spell of the narcissist. egotism is not a virtue or a calling. carlton who said Jesus would never condone a religiousity, wears more religious bling and the whole religious bishop cardinal clothing, costume than most anyone.

if he is so spiritual why the symbols, and costume creating a barrier and communicating that he is the large and in charge one?
personal affection for this guy can leave a door open for deception in the Church to creep in.
baloney you are the CREEP!!!!

I I I I I I I Me ME ME Me and Mine and MY experience are not the source of truth.
God is, Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life!

baloney?
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carle
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Username: carle

Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 172.131.38.10
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 6:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Z-bra and Baloney Below is a post I have taken from (Blogger:Charts and Graphs-Post a comment) It was written and posted by one of the girls from the paid-chat site.

Anonymous said...
This site and another site, known as FactNet, have both been pointed out to me and I want to make a statement, but I will not post what I have to say hidden behind the name "anonymous". Online, I go by the name 3J and I have never posted on any site using that or any other name. I have seen that 3J, my name, has been mentioned and several references have also been made about me on FactNet, so I know they are referring to me and not another 3J. I am posting here because I am not registered and I don't want to register on FactNet and I also conclude that many of you frequent both sites, whose purposes are one in the same...to intentionally destroy and discredit others. There may be other sites that I know nothing about. However, I do give permission for this comment to be copied and posted on FactNet, only if someone wants to post it under their own name (but from 3J) and post it in it's entirety and without making any changes.

Other than what I just said above, I, 3J, have never given anyone permission to use my name, my words, speak on my behalf, or represent me online, in any way! I simply want to make these statements: I want to make it very clear that whoever is posting on FactNet as "Carle" is a FRAUD! "Carle" has said things to make it look like I am in a group with her and a few others. I, along with other innocent people, have had our names mentioned and have been associated with something that has nothing to do with us. I don't know a Carle at all or whoever is behind those posts, but I believe I know who the individual or group wants everyone to think this "carle" is supposed to be and I know that to be 100 % NOT the fact! Anyone with any common sense can tell, from what is posted, that FactNet's "Carle" doesn't actually exist, but is simply a character that was created to say ridiculous things so that a response can be given, which in turn furthers the agenda of those behind the slanderous postings. "Carle" is most likely the same person or group that has authored many of the other posts, using a variety of names. These sites are Satan's playgrounds and I am NOT staying to play! I will not become a regular here or there, for I have much better things to do with my time than to waste it on rumors, twisted half truths, and outright lies.

9:50 PM

Thank you
Carle
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zebra
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Username: zebra

Post Number: 313
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.131.126.240
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carle:

Thank you for posting a posting by one of the girls from the paid-chat site. I believe that I should make a few comments about some of the things that were said in that posting. You will find these comments below:

1. You stated that "you wouldn't post what you had to say hidden under the name Anonymous." Yet, you posted what you had to say under the name Anonymous.
2. You stated that "you have never posted on any site using that name or any other name."Yet, you subscribed to and have posted under the name "JabberJungleJoker" on your MySpace site.
3. You stated that "Carle has said things to make it look like I am in a group with her and a few others." Yet, you are in a group with others. You are a member of the paid-chat site.
4. You stated that "you didn't know a Carle at all." Yet, you do know a Carle and she to is a member of the paid-chat site. She used the name "Carle" when posting on MMM's site.
5. You stated that "I, along with other innocent people, have had our names mentioned and have been associated with something that has nothing to do with us." Yet, you and some others mentioned in other posts are members of the paid-chat site. An example of this is the petition mentioned to get C to come to the chats. You are the 3J mentioned in the signed petition.
6. You stated that "for I have much better things to do with my time than to waste it on rumors, twisted half truths, and outright lies." Yet, you spend hours on end taking part in rumors, twisted half truths and outright lies.

One can see how easy it is to become confused when reading from the "Book of Carmanites." I will say at the least, that one of the girls from the paid-chat site had enough conviction to post something even if it didn't make a lot of sense. Wait! A couple of the others have posted some brief comments on the Blogger as well. Perhaps some are beginning to think for themselves. I do know that some are beginning to question why C is doing and has done some of the things he has done. I suggest that you not allow it to bring too much conviction to your heart. Just let it go. It's the man you know. Fight it off. You can do it for you have done it for so long.

Zebra
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missykwan
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Username: missykwan

Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 75.118.55.162
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*sigh* For the love of everything that is right in this world.

Carman was married for 4 months, from Jan-April 2004, I believe to "Rose Grissett"? She is Mario Murillo's ex-wife. You can find the records at Las Vegas Marriage Records or some crap like that; and it's no big secret. Anyone who wants to know only has to put his first and last name in the National Marriage Records database & it is ALL THERE.

I don't know why he married her after knowing her for such a short time, but I wasn't there, so I can't judge.

She left him laying on the floor of their apartment after he had passed out (because his heart is bad), for over FOUR HOURS. Who on earth DOES crap like that?

P.S. And For The Record: CRAFTY & 3J are two specific cases of Crackheads. I've had interaction with them both and they are two complete and utter nutjobs

K-Thanx-Bye
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zebra
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Username: zebra

Post Number: 315
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.167.200.51
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Missykwan:

After reading your post # 4 above I noticed you used the word "Crackheads" in your description of a couple of the girls from the paid-chat site. Please define the term "Crackheads" for me. Are you implying that these two individuals are using some type of illegal drug? Or, are you implying that these two individuals are Crackheads of another definition? Please clearify this for me if you would be so kind.
Thank you so much for your time.
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missykwan
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 75.118.55.162
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 3:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ZEBRA....Just that they are off the wall, goofy, domineering, will defend him at any time and in any way...even when he says something that is WAAAAAAY off base.

K-Thanx-Bye
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zebra
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Username: zebra

Post Number: 316
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.134.234.5
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 9:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Missykwan:

Thank you for your response in your above post number 5. Your definition indicates you do know them very well.

Have you had any interaction with Di and Vada, two other members of the paid-chat site? These two, along with Crafty and 3J seem to make up the "inner circle" of the paid-chat site. Of course, there are a few others who are willing to pay (donate) to have the honor of being members of that site.

As you mentioned above, they will defend C at any time and in any way. Yet, when one seeks an answer to a question about C they "circle the wagons". They are extremely jealous and protective of their "Champion". He belongs to them and them only. They can't allow anyone, especially a female, to get between them and their "man". He's all that some of them have. They can't take their eyes off him. They seek to live through him because they have never lived themselves. All the while, they have question after question about why he's doing some of the things he's doing. Yet, publicly they defend him and will defend him to the end.

This "inner circle" keeps copies of many of the postings from FactNet. They go there almost daily to see what has been said about their "Idol". This is the same FactNet that several of them have written to stating they hoped and prayed that FactNet would shut down. They consider those who have questions about C to be "the enemy". They go to great lengths to try and discover who the posters really are. All the while, they use several different names to cover their own true identities. They boast about their intelligence and knowledge and courage to one another but they want no one to know who they really are.

Yes, they are an interesting group indeed. If you have anything that might help us to better understand them please let up know.

Zebra
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missykwan
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 75.118.55.162
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 1:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ZEBRA: Have you had any interaction with Di and Vada,

MISSY: I could write an entire A-Z Encyclopedia set over conversations, and incidences that have happened. *My Head Hurts* LULZ

ZEBRA: Crafty and 3J seem to make up the "inner circle" of the paid-chat site.

MISSY: Crafty & 3J are not intimidating to me; nor have they ever been. Crappy & 3J like to THINK they are the inner circle; and I enjoy watching them continuously tell themselves that. It really is amusing to watch.
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ZEBRA: ". He's all that some of them have. They can't take their eyes off him. They seek to live through him because they have never lived themselves.

MISSY: I'm sorry that their life SUX. But they need to get off mine and everyone else's whose life DOESN'T suck.

ZEBRA: This "inner circle" keeps copies of many of the postings from FactNet. They go there almost daily to see what has been said about their "Idol".

MISSY: I hope they do. They get good doses of reality when they visit here.

ZEBRA: They go to great lengths to try and discover who the posters really are. All the while, they use several different names to cover their own true identities.

MISSY: And this is why they don't have the respect from people they THINK they have the respect from. If they or anyone else wants to come after me, then play your cards face up on the table and come at me on camera or to my face. Otherwise, I have one child at home. I don't come to the internet looking to interact with children.

K-Thanx-Bai
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zebra
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Username: zebra

Post Number: 319
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.133.100.188
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Missykwan:

In your above post # 6, you typed the word Crappy. Was this a typo or did you refer to Crafty as Crappy and if so why? I am curious about that. Crafty is the one I know very little about. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what makes her tick. Perhaps you have some facts of interest for me. Thanks again. I look forward to hearing from you.

Zebra
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missykwan
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Username: missykwan

Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 75.118.55.162
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ZEBRA: I think I already answered this in another post. But yes, I meant to write "Crappy" LOL
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zebra
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Username: zebra

Post Number: 325
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.166.252.118
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Missykwan:

Yes, you've already answered this in another post. Sorry! I believe I posted this question on this post before the other one.

Would you be so kind and answer for me the reason you call her "Crappy". I am in the process of doing research on some of the girls from the paid-chat site. This would help me greatly. I'm doing this because one of the girls from the paid-chat site suggested that I needed to do more research before I posted things. I'm in the process of doing that research now. I will keep you informed.

Thanks again!

Zebra
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missykwan
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Username: missykwan

Post Number: 14
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 75.118.55.162
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ZEBRA: Basically all it boils down to is, Carman had made a snippy comment regarding someone I love dearly; and clearly he showed no remorse for it.

Out of anger, I went to my MySpace account and wrote in my blog how Vada is a hypocrit for getting upset at me for using choice colorful language when she says her favorite show on TV was "Friends", which we all know is full of lesbianism, premarital sex, wraunchy jokes, etc, etc.

Crappy and 3Jokes both went and looked at my blog and copied and pasted what I had written about Vada; and gave it to Vada to read. Vada THEN comes back at me, acting like she has her panties in a wad because she is SO OFFENDED at the fact that I used 4-letter words.

I'm sorry but, how can one be upset at 4-letter word usage when you enjoy watching "FRIENDS"?????

VADA <---POT-KETTLE-BLACK
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zebra
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Username: zebra

Post Number: 327
Registered: 7-2005
Posted From: 172.166.252.118
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 5:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Missykwan:

Thank you for your explanation. This seems to be the way that the girls from the paid-chat site do things. It is the way they have been taught.

As I mentioned in the above post, I am in the process of doing some research on the girls from the paid-chat site. Of course, this includes V as well. I have found in my research some very interesting things that might be of interest to you. However, I first must verify all my findings before I release any of them. For I will only post things that are true and factual.

Zebra
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carle
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Username: carle

Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 172.167.111.144
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Z-bra Do all the research you wish. It means nothing to me as well as the girls from the paid-chat site.
As far as Missy is concerned, she is still the loser she has always been. She is jealous because she was never in the inner circle. Her relative is a loser as well. Carman can say anything he wishes. He is always right. He only says things that help others. There isn't a selfish bone in his body.

Carle
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missykwan
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Username: missykwan

Post Number: 17
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 75.118.55.162
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

CARLE: As far as Missy is concerned, she is still the loser she has always been.

MISSY: LULZ! I know right??

CARLE: She is jealous because she was never in the inner circle.

MISSY: I dont want to be IN the Inner Circle. I don't know where you've been. So please dont touch me. KThanxBai,DriveThrough

****Carle, the Inner Circle is a trademarked name so, I'd be very careful in using it in the future.

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