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baloney New member Username: baloney
Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 72.254.131.136
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:46 am: |
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just as an accountability and although with disappointment and a healthy mistrust, there is no real malice or we are not forgetting what good things have been done for others in the power of the Lord. that being said, it is important to be realistic and to look at unpaid bills, lawsuits, a personal trainer who is a former stripper and a homosexual, strip club owner who randy recommended for city council and allowed him to speak from their pulpit. maybe he is saved now, but there is still a ques of if his clubs are closed, not sold and if he has made ammends to the community and can prove he is really serving Christ. also the whites visiting or trusting in "any" way michael jackson which they did. he is a sick person and violent person who hides it with soft feminine demeanor publically. he is a trick. he showed porno to young children (michael) he gave them alcohol and he himself is demonized if not possesed. there is a flock of people from very low class backgrounds with a lot of "denial" which is typical for abuse victims, who get blessed, very blessed and then become attached to the celebrity mentality and also want the "power" of knowing and "changing" wealthy celebrities with backgrounds similar to themselves. a great deal of psychology going on here. it's a good idea to resource the incredible dishonesty of randy white who claimed a degree from a college that no one can find the address or phone number for or record of. also his statements about taking over the malibu vineyard church, (formerly thousands of members) which isn't true whatsoever. call their pastor and find out for yourself or find info on the web. he is also bragging about pam anderson and tommy lee, more people who are addictive, sexually immoral, from low class backgrounds who make their way (wealth)in life through celebrity and sexual immorality. let's see randy be the Biblical steward of what God has given him and admit to some things that God did NOT give to him. let's see him come clean about his "credentials" including title of bishop which only applies to his own church. another thread connecting these people are foundations of "incest". there are so many books and a great deal of clinical information about emotional incest and the psychology of people who grew up in either verbally and physically abusive homes which is a sexual dynamic. yes, that is correct for those of you who wish to deny or believe otherwise. a mother slapping a child across the face especially if it's a life style, does the same thing to the brain chemistry and the emotions as a sexual experience that is shocking and inappropriate. physical violence in the home, including between siblings has a sexualized dynamic in the brain and because of the broken personal boundary experience. this can cause deep shame and addictive behavior including pornography and perfectionism a drive or compulsion for attention and an inability to accept critisism normally etc. demeaning and abandoning causes the same chemicals in the body and brain and "scores" the brain, (chemical burns that look like streets on the brain tissue)with anger chemicals. these kinds of wounds open the soul to demonic influences also and unhealthy determination, but understandable, to be "in control" of others and circumstances. are any of these people willing to submit themselves to strong Christian counselors for say, six months to a year. and someone who specializes in celebrities and their deep issues?
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baloney New member Username: baloney
Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 72.254.131.136
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can we see randy selling all that he has and giving it to the poor,or confessing to poor stewardship with finances, relationships and his marriage? can we see the "clan" the tribe of people ranging from jan crouch who has the poor background, and the highly highly sexualized personna and at a really inappropriate age. not to mention what she is doing to the Holy Land park, vegas-izing it already and offending employees and changing the park from a more authentic representation of Israel to literally Babylon. she already is installing things that are not only pagan, but garrish and many people are upset, have left are afraid and are appropriately privately complaining and "many" are praying regarding her. she installed large "vases" with faces on them, pagan faces, the beginnings and signature compromise of jan much like tbn headquarters which is riddled with many pagan statues, art work and other things that are invoking of spirits literally and is a real waste if not abuse, of tbn finances/contributions and an expression of a mind not totally in reality it seems and spiritually jezebel, (the queen of babylon and a modern day spirituality described by many ministers). we won't even delve into her hollywood personna costuming and the dicotomy of what she is like at home, and then on the air in doll make up and clothing, purring and cooing and referring to Disney which is larger than she can go, as the "little mouse down the street". the people at the Holy Land park have a term for her, she is called the "pink lady" and people there, good hearted sincere praying people, people are having discernment about demons coming into that ministry due to the crouches. a fast was called for after a leader had a dream that a principality spirit was coming and it had to be resisted. jan and her compartriots, saved or not, so are we... are completely reluctant to see themselves as in any real sin and would mock the idea that she has a jezebel spirit and is too connected to hollywood in the wrong way. it almost seems that if she can "speak in a tiny sugary voice and say it isn't so then it isn't". witchcraft possibly. why does she buy off the prophets around her and give them platforms they "need" so she can control the outcome. another one of those dynamics that poor, abused, angry, injured people have often. alcoholics believe that if they say something isn't true, then it isn't. rumors about paul having an alcoholic problem circulate. it may not be true but there are denial and control dynamics and seemingly many distortions personnally and spiritually and a lot of "sorcery" of words. most people, fans, would say that is impossible. baloney. these people have sin in their lives and they are sinning with some of their aquisitions. the biggest sin might be that they would not admit that they sin. or that they have demonic entities engaged in their lives. or that they affect and effect others negatively regardless of the good works preaching the Gospel or what GOD IS DOING, THROUGH the ministry and the many contributions both in prayer and financially.
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baloney New member Username: baloney
Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 72.254.131.136
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 11:20 am: |
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the Holy Land park employees said they, (she) came into the Holy Land park in Orlando "like bulldozers". referring to attitudes and decisions. not a fan of gene rodenberry and his philosophy and anti-Christ stances, but the famous "Star Fleet Command" governance of not interferring with a culture on a planet etc is something to think about here. yes, and what about God and His desires and principles? she is already buying statues and mirrors and the pagan, expensive(poor stewardship) things she is known for and placing them on property. the sincere people who don't think they are god, actually chizzled off the pagan faces on the temple vases she installed. why, because the park tries to express Biblical and historical accuracy and is reverent towards God's mandates regarding temple architecture. girls at the front gate complained about the mirrors. all of this is unsolicited and just spoken suddenly as people express regarding changes. we held our tongues and did not scorn jan because those employees have to earn their living there. at tbn in ca she has rows and rows of gaudy ridiculous mirrors that are a waste of "ministry payer dollars" and an expression of her emptiness expressed in an apparent, what seems to be an addiction to buying things. when she was in town, which she has been for a while now, in Orlando- the sky (which is already is filled with many demons from disney things and other issues not pertinent to this board) took on a deep black jezebel countenance and a superiority spirituality,(this is preaching to the church - some of you understand and it would be nice if mark ch did and did something real about it instead of being controlled by a benefactor and in denial- a selfish emotional function)which of course she would adamantly deny she does or feels. she wants to turn the park into a mini "Christian" Vegas with singers, dancing fountains and other garrish and out of context things that are far from the purpose and the anointing of the park. money does not give you the right to incest or molest or defile what you (it isn't "her" money anyways) or to "take over", it gives you the responsibility to steward faithfully and healthfully and to honor God, not yourself perversely. this is not permission to hate, but it is a call to prayer and to accountability. and to truth. "if My people will humble themselves and pray, and seek My face and turn from their own wicked ways, I will heal..."
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