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mattlalande New member Username: mattlalande
Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 24.36.207.66
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I am a former student of GCC. I am now a lawyer in the Toronto area. I am thinking of having my office starting a classw action lawsuit with respect to all the allegations of abuse and the psychological damage it has caused to many people. I guess there is no one better than a former student. I need to know how many possible people would consider joining a class action if commenced. Please email me privately at mattlalande@gmail.com |
   
priest_of_satan Junior Member Username: priest_of_satan
Post Number: 46 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.114.251.86
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its all about the $$$ eh....good for you Matt NICE!!! |
   
hoperules Junior Member Username: hoperules
Post Number: 49 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 72.136.252.197
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Jason Price. It is not about the money. It's about justice. I am thankful for the fact that I was 14 years old and I had somewhat figured out a mind for myself. Yet I am sad for those younger than me, looking back I am sad for people that were my age back then. I have a chance for recovery. Simply because I knew what was happening was wrong, yes I was confused, but my GOD, would I ever, ever, ever let it happen to anyone younger than me?! NO!!! It confuses me to this day that I was so involved in myself to think that I couldn't help or save an innocent child. It pains me and I weep. Had I known the strength that I have now, I would have told someone, had it made a difference. But I didn't believe that it would. Target on my back. Had I had the balls I could have saved alot of people - perhaps. Had I said something to my parentes. I am so sorry I didn't. There is nothing I regret more. Nothing. It's not about money it's about funkin redemption. Jason, I am over joyed you had a great time at Grenville. I wish I had too. I wish I was the star athlete, I wish I was the lead in the freakin G&S, I wish my parents gave an extra $5,000 per year so I was treated right. I wish. But back then they only spend the piddly $22,000 so I was given for dick for . I am sorry that I wasn't. I am sorry that my friends weren't. I am sorry to ruin what good feelings you had of Grenville, but ...honestly, how can you be so oblivious???????? |
   
gcc8286 New member Username: gcc8286
Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 24.71.223.142
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POS - So with your moniker on this board you are obviously related to Satan but come on the sarcasm is tiring.....Happy to spar outside the forum ... or perhaps end of Sept? |
   
hoperules Junior Member Username: hoperules
Post Number: 50 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 74.121.210.203
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Jason - I am going to take a step back and apologize. One I should not have used so many red dots, yet I am angry. Two, I should not speak without thinking. Three, I really wish I had spoken up to my parents and at that time I really was only thinking of me. As an adult now, I wish I had done it for others. As a human being, I wish I had done it for others. As a zombie that I was, I wish I had done it for others. I just wish I had known better. If I had not been 14-17, maybe I would have thought different, had I not been so impressionable. But I was. I was the most neive girl in the world. I thought the world would do me well and well, Grenville proved me wrong in that fact. I thought I had nothing to prove, but prove my best to my parents and the school, but again Grenville proved me wrong in that too. After everything that I saw, I lost hope. I lost hope in me and everyone around me. It ruined everything that I thought that I was. It runined everything that I thought I could be. It ruined my hopes of ever going on to university or college because of Case said there was no point. I was a lost cause. That is not what my parents paid for. I pullled through, yet they knew I pulled through and told me so. It did not by any means, mean that I could not do whatever it was I wanted to do. But I felt defeated. I have yet today to go to university or college and in all honesty, I literally shake in my boots when anyone says anything to me about it, because I feel like such a lost cause. It's not Grenville's fault. It's mine now and having doubted myself. I procrastinate beyond belief. Aside from this I am the most positive person to my friends, my family and to myself. I don't know Jason. I don't want to diss you in the least. I just feel some sort or remose because I feel like I was never given the chance to do anything else. The only chance I was given was to doubt myself even after my free time spent being tutored and in study hall all weekends. I had alot on my mind. I was wondering how I would get out. Iwas wondering what was going on with my fellow studends as they were put on D and taken away to God only knows where? I was wondering if this would happen to me, if I didnt' walk a straight line or what not. I was having my heart and my hopes broken on a daily basis, yet I wasn't able to talk about it with no one. Today, I have a hard time trusting. Today I have a hard time dealing with authority. Today,I have a hard time just letting me be loved for just plain me. Today, I have a hard time greiving or showing any emotion, because at Grenville I would be punished in some form or another. Whether it be for self-serving reason's or self-indulgent or whatever.It was wrong.I cry for Bell Mobility commercials at Christmas time and that's about it. Grenville made me stone and for that I am MAD. I just simply want to feel again and I can't. |
   
former_gcc_staff New member Username: former_gcc_staff
Post Number: 19 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 137.186.250.226
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POS I have to say, I think everyone gets your point. From other threads I've gathered you are afraid of people mistaking discipline for abuse, or people exagerating claims. I couldn't tell you if that is happening or not, but I can tell you that it pretty obvious that there are people hurting really bad. I'm all for freedom of speech even if it rubs people the wrong way. But you've made your point several times, people get it. You're starting to come across as cold, callous, and insensitive. Honestly my experience with GCC was great, amazing, life changing even. But, let's show some respect for those that had quite a different experience there. |
   
hoperules Member Username: hoperules
Post Number: 51 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 74.121.210.203
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Jason - I am going to take a step back and apologize. One I should not have used so many red dots, yet I am angry. Two, I should not speak without thinking. Three, I really wish I had spoken up to my parents and at that time I really was only thinking of me. As an adult now, I wish I had done it for others. As a human being, I wish I had done it for others. As a zombie that I was, I wish I had done it for others. I just wish I had known better. If I had not been 14-17, maybe I would have thought different, had I not been so impressionable. But I was. I was the most neive girl in the world. I thought the world would do me well and well, Grenville proved me wrong in that fact. I thought I had nothing to prove, but prove my best to my parents and the school, but again Grenville proved me wrong in that too. After everything that I saw, I lost hope. I lost hope in me and everyone around me. It ruined everything that I thought that I was. It runined everything that I thought I could be. It ruined my hopes of ever going on to university or college because of Case said there was no point. I was a lost cause. That is not what my parents paid for. I pullled through, yet they knew I pulled through and told me so. It did not by any means, mean that I could not do whatever it was I wanted to do. But I felt defeated. I have yet today to go to university or college and in all honesty, I literally shake in my boots when anyone says anything to me about it, because I feel like such a lost cause. It's not Grenville's fault. It's mine now and having doubted myself. I procrastinate beyond belief. Aside from this I am the most positive person to my friends, my family and to myself. I don't know Jason. I don't want to diss you in the least. I just feel some sort or remose because I feel like I was never given the chance to do anything else. The only chance I was given was to doubt myself even after my free time spent being tutored and in study hall all weekends. I had alot on my mind. I was wondering how I would get out. Iwas wondering what was going on with my fellow studends as they were put on D and taken away to God only knows where? I was wondering if this would happen to me, if I didnt' walk a straight line or what not. I was having my heart and my hopes broken on a daily basis, yet I wasn't able to talk about it with no one. Today, I have a hard time trusting. Today I have a hard time dealing with authority. Today,I have a hard time just letting me be loved for just plain me. Today, I have a hard time greiving or showing any emotion, because at Grenville I would be punished in some form or another. Whether it be for self-serving reason's or self-indulgent or whatever.It was wrong.I cry for Bell Mobility commercials at Christmas time and that's about it. Grenville made me stone and for that I am MAD. I just simply want to feel again and I can't. |
   
hoperules Member Username: hoperules
Post Number: 52 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 74.121.210.203
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If I may add. I have no problem with dicipline if it's done in the most constructive ways. I have no problem in teaching morals to children as well. With regards to religion, I have felt raped. I would want my kids to have the opportunity to explore in what they want to believe, yet any form of religion will always be a fallocy to me...ignore the spelling mistakes (using someone elses laptop and I hate the keyboards!) |
   
priest_of_satan Junior Member Username: priest_of_satan
Post Number: 48 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.114.251.86
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If anyone has kept up with my posts - yes, sometimes I do seem callous <sp?> and heartless - who is actually going to get hurt here? The people that did this to you all? No, there will be alot of innocent-ish individuals that "bought" into the b.s - no pensions, no security and all with multiple kids etc. Everyone is SOOOOOOOOOOOo religous - HEAL for sure, sorry for being an - but is this really going to accomplish what you are, somewhat, collectively setting out to do? GCC8286....how do I get ahold of you? Same basic years bud...my name is floating around - if you really want to make this personal as you so clearly stated let me know - Jason Price would be me and who might I be sparring with? headhuntertoronto@yahoo.ca - So I know who to not let walk behind me on the 29th? This is not a threat just a response bitterboy. |
   
priest_of_satan Junior Member Username: priest_of_satan
Post Number: 49 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.114.251.86
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If anyone has kept up with my posts - yes, sometimes I do seem callous <sp?> and heartless - who is actually going to get hurt here? The people that did this to you all? No, there will be alot of innocent-ish individuals that "bought" into the b.s - no pensions, no security and all with multiple kids etc. Everyone is SOOOOOOOOOOOo religous - HEAL for sure, sorry for being an - but is this really going to accomplish what you are, somewhat, collectively setting out to do? GCC8286....how do I get ahold of you? Same basic years bud...my name is floating around - if you really want to make this personal as you so clearly stated let me know - Jason Price would be me and who might I be sparring with? headhuntertoronto@yahoo.ca - So I know who to not let walk behind me on the 29th? This is not a threat just a response bitterboy. |
   
priest_of_satan Junior Member Username: priest_of_satan
Post Number: 50 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 74.114.251.86
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P.O.S. <------ obviously a hothead...but would much rather be friends than enemies THINK then REACT!!! P.O.S. react...then think. I am with you all, basically....but really you guys aren't understanding that I am actually with you. Does that make sense? LMAO I was "abused" by the GCC staff, there is no doubt in my mind. Once again, for all the GCC8286 beat the crap out of Jason at the closing guys....I got the brunt of what GCC had to offer, pokes, discipline, pots, laundry, tooth brush scrubbing - you name it. I am all for healing!!! But at what cost? You guys/gals have a great thing going here - talking, sharing, supporting and healing - what unity....the most I have seen since being sharing my persecutions with fellow persecutees i.e. roommates/friends etc. (POS's break in the monologue) I did not want to step into a church for years after GCC - b/c I was tainted...no, I actually felt that I had done enough churching in those 5 years to last me atleas 10 (and no, I don't got today I am a priest of satan). Those staff are paying for those beliefs ten fold because the message was flawed, they don't have any security to look after what is most sacred....their own children. String up Father Farnsworth? Why not? He must deserve it. Isn't he like 90 by now?....the Sopranno's come to mind - "I don't remember." Sorry, sarcastic again - but does everyone not think that he is not affected by ALL of the information that is being shared? Grabbing XXXXX, making snide comments <that> and a position of EVANGELIST. Charles Jim Baker.... You/we guys are killing him - for sure, his legacy is closing and he wont come near it for fear of his life <same>. Every single person on here has voiced that there was good at GCC...it was not completely evil to the bone. The CofJ is, or will be, falling appart...GCC is basically gone - why? Because the building blocks that GCC/CofJ thought they were building on are gone. THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT!!! The Bayles brothers, the Bushnells, Ortolanis, Poths, Childs etc. broke the cycle...who knows, figured it out - made a stand, whatever. Where does the blame end? Board members - the damage is rolling....the GCC name is gone...FF is a dinosaur who can plead "huh?" Do we blame Bill/Bob Bayles, Gord Mitz for taking the torch and doing what they thought, and were taught, was right? Why were some treated better than others at GCC? There are so many individual emotional battles to be waged - but vs. who? Why did these people do these things to a select few - Their lives must be hell remembering the shite they waged on people...and what a terrible ? to ponder.... Maybe it was Ms.Anderson and the formaldehyde...<settle> Devils Advocate, the new moniker that Liane has given me....I am all for everyone healing - if I can do anything for a friend I will do it - i don't go out of my way to people off....it sometimes just happens, anyone who actually knows me may attest to this. I am in no way, shape or form a moron - I may press POST one two many times but hey I am just impatient. |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 208 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.162
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hi devils advocate, I left you a private e-mail on facebook. I for one do not think you are a moron... I press post a lot too.... it takes toooooo long! I too am impaitent. The devils advocate was actually more about a compliment to you perhaps.... backhanded though. I like your side of things too.... I just wish you would let the new people on board have their say and feel safe doing it is all.... Just my feelings.... Liane |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 209 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.162
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All right all, Good day.... Jasons last post is correct in my opinion... I am concerned about class action suit too.... I mean obvioulsy Matt you are a lawyer... and therefore smarter than I. Okay it is pretty easy to be smarter than I ... But, my point... Organizing, deciding what you want and how you are going to prove it, and all of that... I think it is hard work. It will take like for ever... This is the part where I feel like I am going to be in trouble.... But, one thing I am is stand up and a straight shooter... I have said things in private that I should state here. 1)I have backed off factnet for a bit, it became soooooo overwhelming and all consuming for me. I let things in my personal life slide.... and, now I have to paly catch up!! MY GIG! 2)Factnet is a valuable tool as I have stated before...likeing it to an AA mtg, all your stories put me at ease and validate my expereince, so I know I did not dream it. I am so grateful for that. But, although unique as indivduals are stories are the same.... again healing to me and validating. 3)We need to leave the doors open for the new people who I am sure will be coming in and supprt them.... 4) I am grateful for my re connections and all my new friends... I am grateful that the word is out there and who knew the media would fly with this as they did?? I was just so taken a back by that. And, I will say sooooo pleased. But, it is out there now... and what is next? 5) I am going to be here and will continue to support anyone who wants it.... But, I also have my breaking point too... and, I have to decide what I can and can not handle. I may not post as much... By gosh... There is a lot these days to keep up with! I am glad the gates flooded and people have a place to get it off their chests... But, I ask what is next...? We stay here and support the new people, we continue to build our friendships and networking units.... But, I have decided that I have to decide when enough is enough, and how am I going to recognize the errors of the past and heal the future... Maybe we need to think about sharng stories of hope as well.... Just my thoughts again.... Jason, I think you are pretty cool...love the sarcasim... it always makes me happy... Liane |
   
familylove New member Username: familylove
Post Number: 6 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 65.95.134.18
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To Mattlaland: I feel that you have done a service to the abused students of GCC, by suggesting a class action suit. Over the past week, I have spoken to Bishop Bruce of the Diocese of Ontario, to Wayne Varley the Executive office of Diocese of Ontario, to Bishop Howe of Huron, and am waiting to speak to the Bishop of Ottawa, who was my former priest. I feel that it is important to have the secular legal side investigate the events that went on at GCC, if for no other reason than to make sure the church gets its facts straight. No, it is not about the money, but the accountability and this is an added way to make sure that Mr. Farnsworth (he does not deserve the title of Reverend) and his staff that carried out these horrific acts should be held responsible for the lives the changed for ever. For those of you, that were so fortunate to have escaped the ills of GCC, I am happy and relieved for you, but please let those that have suffered so much, take actions that will help them to heal. They have been made, in the past, to feel that their thoughts and feelings were worthless. Please allow them to be recognized and validated for the process they must take. JOS: It saddens me greatly to hear you say, that you were bad, when you were sent to GCC, so why would you not expect to pay the consequences. This was way beyond being strict, this was not teaching morality, this was not discipline and this was not God’s loving way. No child JOS, is bad without a reason. You still deserved to be loved, and honoured and made to feel secure. No child, regardless of behaviour, ethnic background, religious views or sexual orientation, deserves to be abused. Please take a step back and realize that this was wrong. No matter what you said or did, there were reasons for your behaviour and it was up to Farnsworth and staff to help you in an appropriate way to find yourself and help you to be the best you could be. They didn’t do that. Hoperules: Your post sounds so my like my daughters. She is such a precioius and gentle soul. If you were here with me right now===I would have you look into my eyes and I would tell you this: You are precious and worthy, and you are a good and kind individual with gifts given to you by a kind and loving God. You may have been stripped of many things with your experience at GCC but you do have the strength to overcome it. You need to do this to be a whole person again and to be your best for your children. It is never too late to start fulfilling your dreams. But first step is to send your formal letter of complaint to Bishop Bruce: gbruce@Ontario.anglican.ca. This will be the first step in taking back your power and building up your self esteem once again. You can do it. What is important is that the students of abuse of GCC are coming forward, NOT ALONE, but as a group to make things right. I applaud all of you. PS I spoke with Bishop Chapman this am. He was very genuine and kind as I have always known him to be. He said that Bishop Howe is a good guy and will do right where the priests are involved, but it appears that because the school was not directly run by the Anglican Church, the staff would not be under his jurisdiction. Therefore, I would that the staff and board of directors of GCC would have to be dealt with through a class action suit or the courts itself, or the OPP. I am not sure but this will be known shortly I am sure. I am proud of each and every one of you, Even you JOS. Take care and take time to realize that you should be validated as well. Obviously, you went through the same experiences as the other kids and it has affected you as well. It appears to me(and tell me if I am wrong) that you feel this was deserved and for that reason you have the outer persona that you do. You are worthy and should be respected so those involved in your life don’t feel they deserve bad treatment as well. Love to all of you tb |
   
sheilac Member Username: sheilac
Post Number: 61 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.54.18.42
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Familylove, this is just such a sweet and insightful post. It really touched me so thank you for that. Sounds to me like your daughter takes after you--a sweet, precious and gentle soul. Thank you again |
   
oneflewover New member Username: oneflewover
Post Number: 17 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 216.191.155.86
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Class action suit NOT about the money? In our society virtually everything is about the money. I don't have a problem with people seeking financial restitution for injustices, just don't lie to yourself about it or think that that it will actually bring about healing. It will just put money in pockets- mostly those of law firms. |
   
westcedar1 New member Username: westcedar1
Post Number: 19 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 12.45.228.13
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Amen! |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 210 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.136
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Hi all, I agree with oneflewover... People indeed have to do what they have to do to heal. I am all for that 100%. You will never ever hear me say... that does not matter or take a stiff upper lip. I am tired as all I can get out of hearing such phrases in life. But, my idea of a class action is that it will be a long time coming and it might be too little too late. Again, not a lawyer and by no means smart..... Leaveing that to the educated.... Family Love, it is horrific and it was horrifying being at GCC. And, everything in your post is soooooo true. I can not deny any of it. We are all special and every child a gift. too bad not everyone recognizes this. My point that I want to stress is.... I think and I can only speak for me... that factnet and sharing our expereinces has been soooo excellent, and I hope it so heals and sets others on to the road of recovery. But, I also want to find a way to find hope and moving fwd too. Sharing plans of recovery.... How do we move fwd, and in turn be able to help the posters that no doubt will be on board soon enough? I believe in leading by example..... Maybe, I am way off base.... and will stand corrected.... |
   
gcc_1981_grad Junior Member Username: gcc_1981_grad
Post Number: 26 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.51.146.194
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hi breaker_19_girl, yes I agree - healing is very important. I understand that legal issues may arise - but to allow them to derail the healing that has begun by the sharing of stories will not have lasting positive long term results |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 211 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.136
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Hi again, Tis me and I am Liane.... Hahahahah. I am sitting here and pondering my last post. Maybe,I sound harsh and un feeling ... But, that is the last thing I am. Indeed about me, I am a product of my enviroment, I feel it sense it and know it. Sometimes it consumes me.... I am grateful for this website, I am so happy to re connect, and make friends with so many special and extremely gifted people here. I sit and ponder at where all the lives have gone here and the accomplishments and sometimes I feel shame that I have not acheived as much as some of you. I am a drifter and never really have a plan for some things and I will admit I have an itemized agenda for others. I am anal and ADHD and sometimes really unfoccussed... But, I think I am cute... hahahhaa... And that excuses all. Okay maybe not... but it sounds good. The point I am so desperately trying to make is I want to heal, I feel validated and will continue to validate and support anyone who wants it. I love factnet, although I have to admit it is addicting and it is consuming at times. I am an addict with 7.5 years of clean time in... acheived through hard work, AA and 21 day programs... It took me a long time to get on board with sobriety... I admit that. I fought it every chance I got... I surrendered recently. What I do take from that experience though is along with sharing the we have to share a plan for recovery, give strenght and hope to the people who come after us... If this makes any kind of sense to you all. And, that is what I am asking for at this time... How do we recover, we know what happened, we know it is real, we know it was pure horridness... But, we are adults and how do we forgive the past, and yes forgive our selves for how we feel about our contribution to it. Hope rules, your special and so pretty and I feel you can dooooo so much and College is not an out of the way dream for you. I went back at 30 something and totally excelled and got honours. You can do it baby! don't let fear stop you... I was middle of the road in high school too, and really just wanted out... I hear ya on the fear of doing it. I can kick and if you want to go to school.... hey I am behind you and will support you all the way. I will even go to a school and seek out a guidance counselor with you. Lets program one another to believe and help one another to succeed... That is all I am saying! Liane Marie Ross |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 212 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.136
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Gcc 19 81, I adore you and you should know that. If I am understanding you correctly... I am not asking people to de rail healing... I want healing, but through healing comes a light at the end of the tunnel too. For so long I felt absorbed by all this and then I asked myself... how can we change it... and part of that is by moving on and sticking it to them too. And, rising above and finding a plan... And sharing our fears as well, and helping each other acheive a whole heart. |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 213 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.136
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Anger and pain can be sooooooo negative and not productive, so while we share it to people and only us people know it.... We can also try and shed light is all..... as part of the process! Carrying a heavy heart is soooooo hard is all I am saying.... |
   
gcc_1981_grad Junior Member Username: gcc_1981_grad
Post Number: 27 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.51.146.194
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what I mean is that legal issues and the complexity of executing them can be very absorbing.., I hope that if a legal path is taken it does not derail the healing that has begun by the sharing of stories. The sharing of stories has been very positive for me and for others. I would hate to see it stunted by the gusto of legal pursuits.., although legal pursuits may be necessary. I too adore you |
   
familylove New member Username: familylove
Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 65.95.166.235
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Hi: what awesome posts and I do agree that everyone needs to recover and heal. There are so many individuals out their with chronic fatique, addictions, fibromyalgia, panic disorders and post traumatic stress disorders. Many of these can be traced to past experiences so I do pray that a recovery plan can be devised. Perhaps I am naive to think that a class action suit is not about the money (I guess for me, that is how it is). I just would like to know how to be sure all the information goes out to hold those accountable, other than through the church alone. They only have jurisdiction over the priests. Does anyone know of an alternate way to do this than a class action. Or do you feel what the church is doing will be enough? I am proud of all of you for sharing and being there for each other TB |
   
gcc_1981_grad Junior Member Username: gcc_1981_grad
Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.51.146.194
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familylove - There are a number of people who have had experiences at GCC that are very traumatic. They have not spoken of their situations. They have their reasons for doing so. I believe that these reasons are based in fear of some type. I respect their decisions to not tell their stores. An alternative to a class action suit is to create a safe environment so that they can tell their stories. The more stories that are told, the more healing will take place. I am not sure that this will stop a suit from happening, but at least a number of people will be able to find validation in feelings that have been suppressed for a number of years. |
   
breaker_19_girl Intermediate Member Username: breaker_19_girl
Post Number: 214 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 64.187.49.39
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I totally agree with gcc 1981. It is wraped in fear and shock and utter disbelif. Sometimes encouragement and sitting back and seeing others do it... will help. I know for myself, I never spoke of GCC till recently upon hearing the closure. Much like Danny grant has posted all I ever told people in 24 years was I went to this off the wall religous school. I also told people it was not like you imagine boarding school to be. I never elaborated though.... Probaly cuz who is going to believe this... and, you feel like you dreamed it, and because as a kid... who was dumped at GCC as a discipline and academic disaster I was afraid to tell my parents I could not assimilate there either. Getting at school and at home... not worth it. Also we absorbed it all and honestly thought we were the problem sometimes.... I want people to know it was not always you... Don't carry that burden the way I did.... If you are out there and want to take your time participating... take all the time you need. We will always be here... But, at the same time lets push one another to succeed. I will be setting up office hours again in the near future and those of you afraid of a public forum ... Contact me... Liane Marie Ross on facebook and lianeross@porchlight.ca I have not flet all that strong recently and have had a couple very sureal personal setbacks recently. But, I am here... and if I do not respond immediately, know this I am thinking about you... and I will be there as soon as I can be. Keep talking everyone, or typing... but lets also march fwd.... Peace, Love and Grooviness!!!! |
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