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h75
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Username: h75

Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 71.41.26.146
Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

searchitout
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Username: searchitout
Registered: 8-2007

A new member, searchitout, posted on the bottom of the front page on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 9:27 pm:

“I am a recent former member and would like to speak to another former member please.
I spoke to watchman fellowship and was told I could go hear for support.”

I have started this thread so 'search it out' could get proper notice. Hardly anyone reads the messages at the bottom of the front page.
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foreverhis
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Post Number: 119
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 69.176.54.69
Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello search it out. I did not see your post until today. I am sorry about that.

Leaving is very hard. The emotional turmoil is something only some one who has been through it can understand.

Starting right now I am praying for you. If you would like to talk you can e-mail me and I will give you my phone number. You can call collect or I can call you back. I want to help any way I can.

Robin

formerhh@yahoo.com
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 205
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 189.3.11.119
Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 4:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I join the ranks praying for you too. I live a long way from you but rest assured not one day goes by that I do not pray for people to find their way out of the HH trap. May Gos bless you.
Yes, as an old missionary it pains me to write here BUT I know people are reading here that might now read elsewhere and people that know I am for real and for right. That upsets HH.
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praxaluh
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Post Number: 98
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Posted From: 74.72.123.217
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 1:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

searchitout .. warm greeetings.

Please be aware that this oppo crew can be a stumblingblock to those truly seeking to walk with the Lord Jesus.

Shalom,
Praxaluh
praxeus@bigfoot.com
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h75
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 6-2007
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 3:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Prax,

Your prejudice bellows when you craft such a broad proclamation.
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majajh
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Post Number: 41
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Posted From: 198.250.180.194
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 9:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess us oppos better forget about, "Jesus loves me this I know, for the Bible tells me so". That's those of us who don't TRULY follow Jesus. In order to do that, I have to join an exclusive outfit north of Waco that dresses funny and doesn't eat pork protein.
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searchitout
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Username: searchitout

Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 205.188.117.202
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone havefirst hand knowledge of New Covenant Community Church in Greenwich,NY?The people have been coming to HH for a while and they are very much like HH.People are leaving NCC for the same reasons people leave HH.Does anyone know about them?
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 214
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Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recieved an e mail that was traced to NY if the contents of he e mail are true I feel very sorry for the entrapped.
I know they visit back and forth and are learning patterns if that tells you anything.
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h75
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Post Number: 37
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http://www.newcovenantcommunity.org/

Pastor, Bowden, of new covenant community church has historical ties to Adams.

Pastors son and his family live at HH.
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praxaluh
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Post Number: 107
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Posted From: 74.72.123.217
Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 3:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Folks,

Thank you for the web url update.

This has long been a special fellowship. I only had the pleasure of meeting them one time, when I was in the area (a conference) and they were having a community picnic in a park. A very fine time.

Shalom,
Praxaluh
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 219
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Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 9:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you must not have looked at it...This site is under construction...wonder why????
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praxaluh
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Post Number: 110
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Posted From: 74.72.123.217
Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Folks,

Perhaps to create a web site :-).

With a duhhh from Praxaluhhh.

Shalom,
Praxaluh
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 220
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 201.27.154.70
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

they must be busy conforming to patterns...
no Prax...you probably will not be on their site...
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searchitout
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Username: searchitout

Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 24.195.101.221
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 8:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This "fellowship",New Covenant Community Church is being "taught" by HH.I have left and am feeling a freedom I have not felt in many years.I know it will be hard but have found support in friends and family.The teaching(manipulation) is subtle to those still there but God will open thier eyes as he did for me,thanks be to God!!!I have retained a lawyer who is helping me with a legal case against them for things that I cannot discuss.When I was about to leave I tape recorded conversations that prove my allegations are true.You cannot lie when there is a tape.The lawyer said it will take time to put it together.I am not doing this out of revenge but because there is "spiritual abuse"it does exist!!I would ask for those who have left HH to pray for us and anyone who feels to help please contact me.There are so many people who have left NC and have found freedom but it takes a long time sometimes for them to heal all because the simple truth of the Gospel is twisted and "rules and regulations"take the place of relationship with God.Please pray for the people stil at New Covenant and the people who have left and are leaving.}
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 200.182.232.2
Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

God answers prayers...
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h75
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If your case is valid HH will probably drop NC for a time. The powers at HH do not like any problems such as this because it might expose them to scrutiny.
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h75
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They dropped the Arizona church in a heartbeat.
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searchitout
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Post Number: 9
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Posted From: 24.195.101.221
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I have alot of the literature from HH,some of it was used in homeschooling.That is not what my lawsuit is about(thier beliefs ect..)but one of the leaders there has done something illegal and caused much pain in the process.I know God will heal the pain but I feel strongly that they should be accountable for breaking the law.I cannot say what it is because I know the Pastor of NC reads these messages and I know from other things that have happened that they will try to "cover it up"or "spiritualize it"God will hold them accountable for hurting and misleading people unless they repent because of the mercy and kindness of God.
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 224
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Posted From: 200.182.232.2
Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not only the pastor from NC but HH also reads them! I KNOW I was told by a secret contact...but I did not have to be told I already knew.
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missionary_lady
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Post Number: 225
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Not only the pastor from NC but HH also reads them! I KNOW I was told by a secret contact...but I did not have to be told I already knew.
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searchitout
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Posted From: 24.195.101.221
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 7:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was able to get a court order forbidding NC people from contacting my children!!!The Judge and Law Gaurdian looked at the evidence and made the order.I had previously asked them not to contact my children(teenage)but they did anyway now they will be held legally accountable if they do.I want my kids far away from legalism and to find freedom in Christ.
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searchitout
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 24.195.101.221
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In order to show the direction that New Covenant is taking I will show the newspaper articles to the judge from HH and the lawsuit that was filed and won because this is going to be a lawsuit against NC leadership for manipulating 2 minors.Does anyone have info on the lawsuit that was filed?I already have the newspaper articles but my attorney would like to see info on the lawsuit also.Thanks

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