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iwonderwhy New member Username: iwonderwhy
Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2007 Posted From: 166.70.207.2
| | Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:51 pm: |
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Several years ago, I was told that a couple of clergy persons from the CoJ had been sent to Grenville to help the school staff during a time of transition. What was going on? Did FF ask them to come, or did the CoJ invite themselves out of concern that their hold on the school might be slipping? |
   
usedtobethere Junior Member Username: usedtobethere
Post Number: 30 Registered: 6-2006 Posted From: 209.47.31.5
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 8:18 am: |
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'iwonderwhy' As far as I know they were invited to help staff and students through the transition of leadership. Does anyone else on board here have more insight? |
   
grumpybumpas New member Username: grumpybumpas
Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 4.231.47.195
| | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 9:54 am: |
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(Jesus the Christ.) master teacher,master carpenter and reported to be the son of God. Not recorded to have ever written anything with no one on earth having any idea as to what he may have looked like. (Jesus the Christ.) Man,myth, or legend???} |
   
hightide New member Username: hightide
Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2006 Posted From: 71.235.107.213
| | Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:30 pm: |
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huh? |
   
jes_noonan Member Username: jes_noonan
Post Number: 66 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 67.70.17.84
| | Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:48 am: |
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that's pretty random....hahahaa. |
   
bonnieb New member Username: bonnieb
Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 170.215.128.211
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:12 am: |
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I found this online. Does anyone know what this is? Is this some sort of scholarship foundation set up by the C of J to somehow support GCC or student funding at GCC? And if it only was set up in December of 1992, doesn't that indicate more recent involvement by the C of J with GCC? Just curious. http://www.melissadata.com/lookups/np.asp?ein=043154877 GRENVILLE CHRISTIAN COLLEGE FOUNDATION INC In Care of Name RICHARD A LARAJA Address PO BOX 236 ORLEANS, MA 02653-0236 MapG MapY MapV IRS Subsection 501(c)(3) - A religious, educational, charitable, scientific or literary organization. Type of Foundation Organization which receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public Type of Organization Corporation Deductibility Contributions are deductible Tax I.D. Number 043154877 Exempt Since 12-1992 Form 990 Requirment Not required to file (income less than $25,000) Activity #1 Scholarships (other) Classification Scholarships, Student Financial Aid Services, Awards GRENVILLE CHRISTIAN COLLEGE FOUNDATION INC PO Box 236 Orleans, MA 02653 Mission and Programs Mission TO GRANT SCHOLARSHIPS TO DESEVING UNITED STATES RESIDENTS PRE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL STUDENTS TO ATTEND ACCREDITED CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS Who We Are TO GRANT SCHOLARSHIPS TO DESEVING UNITED STATES RESIDENTS PRE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL STUDENTS TO ATTEND ACCREDITED CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS NTEE Code B11—Single Organization Support Financial Data Revenues and Expenses: Fiscal Year Ending March 31, 2001 Revenue Contributions $0 Program Services $0 Investments $207 Special Events $0 Sales $0 Other $0 Total Revenue $207 Total Expenditures $28,927 Net Gain/Loss ($28,720) Balance Sheet: Fiscal Year Ending March 31, 2001 Note: The balance sheet gives a snapshot of the financial health of an organization at a particular point in time. An organization's total assets should generally exceed its total liabilities, or it cannot long survive, but the types of assets and liabilities also must be considered. For instance, an organization's current assets (cash, receivables, securities, etc.) should be sufficient to cover its current liabilities (payables, deferred revenue, current year loan and note payments). Otherwise, the organization may face solvency problems. On the other hand, an organization whose cash and equivalents greatly exceed its current liabilities might not be putting its money to best use. April 1, 2000 March 31, 2001 Change Assets Cash & Equivalent $31,497 $2,776 ($28,721) Land and Buildings $0 $0 $0 Other $0 $0 $0 Total Assets $31,497 $2,776 ($28,721) Liabilities Total Liabilities $0 $0 $0 Fund Balance $31,497 $2,776 ($28,721) Basic Information This organization is a 501(c)(3) Public Charity. This organization is not required to file an annual return with the IRS because its income is less than $25,000. Contributions are deductible, as provided by law. EIN 04-3154877 Fiscal Year March 31, 2001 Assets $0 (from IRS BMF) Income $0 (from IRS BMF) Year Founded Information not available Ruling Year 1992 No. of Board Members Information not available No. of Full-Time Employees Information not available No. of Part-Time Employees Information not available No. of Volunteers Information not available -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
   
bonnieb New member Username: bonnieb
Post Number: 15 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 170.215.128.211
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:53 am: |
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http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2001/043/154/2001-043154877-1-Z.pdf I strongly suggest that you view this document. It is a tax filing of Grenville Christian College Foundation from 2001 and shows the officers as being individuals from the C of J AND GCC (see page 2). As far as I can tell, the foundation granted $28,000 in scholarships for students directly to the educational facility, which I have to assume is Grenville Christian College. The names of the students on whose behalf money was donated are listed on the last page. Clearly there was a connection between CoJ and GCC as recently as 2001. That makes the statement by C of J's attorney in the Cape Cod Times, indicating that there has been no contact in 10 to 12 years, a lie, doesn't it? |
   
lilly_n_bloom New member Username: lilly_n_bloom
Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 137.118.225.180
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 7:46 am: |
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Dear Former Members of the CoJ and Former Students of Grenville Christian College, I haven't written to Factnet or Dream of Truth in quite sometime. But I have followed the postings in both websites faithfully. I am profoundly affected by them and by your courage in sharing the horrific treatment meted out to you. I have shared some of my story on this discussion board, having lived at the CoJ for a little over a year along with my former husband and our son. My former husband is still at the CoJ where he became a brother a number of years ago. Our son, then 3 years old and I left the CoJ in 1979. The "epiphany" for me occurred on a Thanksgiving morning at breakfast in one of the homes where twelve or so people were gathered to eat before the worship service. The group included three house leaders who sat together at our large round table. In a recent retreat we attended, one of the leaders was admonished publicly to cease engaging in idolatry. On Thanksgiving morning, after we were all seated at the table, that particular leader focussed attention on my husband and me with regard to our son seated in his high chair between us. We were told that we were paying him focusing too much attention and were therefore exhibiting "idolatrous behavior." I was then questioned by the three leaders of the house about a discipline I had been placed on of eating peanut butter sandwiches in between meals in order to gain weight (I was slender, but not underweight.) I admitted that I had stopped eating them. The reply was that I had been disobedient and they would therefore have me answer to speak to "The Directors" of the CoJ. Another leader of the house screamed at me "You HATE to be wrong!" Immediately after that, one of the leaders asked someone else at the table to remove our son from between us and place him between another couple on the opposite side of the table. I realised at that moment that at least the one house leader was on the hotseat to discharge her orders to "fight idolatry" and my little family was the target that morning. But beyond the humiliation of having been berated in front of other community members and guests, the defining moment was this: Having seen other children separated from their families, moved to other households to be raised by other families, I wasn't going to allow that to happen to our son. Now 30, my son lives with me and bears the emotional scars of a strained and distant relationship with his father. And there is much more to his journey that I would like to share at another time. My fervent prayer is that the abusive treatment of children and young adults at the CoJ and GCC will be completely exposed and validated to the Anglican Church and to child protection agencies. And that many more of us who disassociated ourselves with CoJ and GCC over the years because of the cultish practices there will come forward AS ADVOCATES OF THE CHILDREN PAST AND PRESENT at CoJ and GCC. Further, with regard to any affiliation with the Episcopal/Anglican Church Proper by the CoJ and GCC, my fervent prayer also is that the Church will be extremely cautious in the future. Officiating at services, membership on the board of directors, close communication with sects not officially connected to the Church, I believe, implies sanction/validation of its practices. When I lived at the CoJ, it was known to members that relationships were being cultivated with the Bishop of Bermuda among others. An item on the prayer vigil list while I was there was to pray for the CoJ's relationship with the Episcopal Bishop of Massachusetts. My love, support and deepest compassion to all of you. I will post again soon. Warmest Blessings, Lilly_n_bloom |
   
lightsout Junior Member Username: lightsout
Post Number: 34 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 76.100.140.96
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:02 am: |
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Lilly_n_bloom - thank you for your sharing. You are such a strong person. Thank God you and your son got out. I will join you in your prayers - as they are mine as well. I still have family there - and pray for the empire to crumble. |
   
lilly_n_bloom New member Username: lilly_n_bloom
Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 137.118.225.180
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 11:53 am: |
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Thank you, lightsout. Lilly_n_bloom |
   
stephlivingston New member Username: stephlivingston
Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 72.143.203.122
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 2:58 pm: |
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I have been reading up on all the news about GCC and I cannot believe that how I was feeling while I went to GCC was the same way everyone else was feeling. Many things were very secretive I knew that but I never really thought people accually felt the way I did. When I graduated I was so glad to get out of there and have some freedom to be myself. Over the years I felt like I was the only one that felt like there was something wrong I just could not put my finger on what it was. When I started at GCC I had my own personal problems that I had to deal with but I was always looking for someone to accually pay attention and talk to me as an individual but they were always just saying that I was wrong for the way I felt about my family and that I should just pray about it. Anytime I got upset with staff I was told I was immature and to grow up. Someone wrote a story about being offered a prefect pin the entire time I was there I strived for a student leader or prefect pin and I never received one and it bothered me for a long time but I realize now I am just as good of a person without having that title becuase by the sounds of things it was not something I would of enjoyed having on my sweater. There are a lot of little things about GCC I have tried to forget but are now being brought up on the web and I am so grateful and proud that people have spoken up about how all of us students were treated and manipulated becaue it is about time some of the people there admit the wrongs they have done. All I can really say that is good about GCC is the fact that I graduated and got my grade 12 and I met a few really good friends that I wish I had kept in touch with over the years. My hopes and prayers are that after all this is said and done that no other students will ever be abused in the fashion at any school or community ever again. Hopefully the abusers will learn from their mistakes. |
   
himalayan New member Username: himalayan
Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 68.52.59.60
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 7:26 pm: |
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Hi Stephanie ,I remember you . I remember that they were giving you a hard time. Are you on facebook?! |
   
stephlivingston New member Username: stephlivingston
Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2007 Posted From: 72.143.203.122
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 7:46 pm: |
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himalayan yes I am on facebook send me an email love to get back with old friends |
   
gcc_1981_grad Junior Member Username: gcc_1981_grad
Post Number: 30 Registered: 8-2007 Posted From: 70.52.182.54
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:32 pm: |
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I would like to post something for the GCC and CoJ people who are reading these posts. I am sure you know who you are. If you have any doubt, I will make it easy for you. If you think these posts are from losers, are from people with emotional difficulties, are from people with a deep hurt, or from people that are bitter, or have lost the way – then it is you. On August 31 The Globe and Mail published a front-page article that read “Light Sessions” and school’s dark past. Reading this article allowed a long time hidden story to open up. A few days later another Globe article published a statement by Joan Childs in which she apologized for causing hurt and pain in so many students. This article was a very significant article, as it validated the awful events that took place at GCC. I am very thankful these articles were published - - they allowed an important story to be told. The Globe, the CBC and the Citizen went on to publish other stories that were horrific - horrible situations that no child should be placed in. No child should be asked, let alone forced, to make the decisions or think the way the school made them think. It is weird and bizarre stuff and it only seemed to cause hurt and force others to become survivalists. A place like that should be removed block by block from the face of this earth – I can’t imagine anyone would even consider making such an institution a school. Humanity was done with all that kind of non-sense about a century ago. Through my own excitement of the story finally being told, I incorrectly assumed that everyone involved with the school understood and accepted that GCC practiced abusive tactics. I have recently discovered that I am wrong. Instead I have noticed three schools of thought on GCC. There is the group who acknowledges the school practiced abusive tactics, there is the group that knew the school practiced abusive tactics but believed them to be harmless or necessary, and there is the group who believed the school is the best thing since tap dancing grizzlies and never noticed any abuse happening at all. The reality is people were abused. Part of the healing process is for an abused person to acknowledge the abuse they have received. The numbers that make up the three groups will shift the more stories of abuse are told. Eventually more and more people will listen, and eventually an understanding of why this happened will be known. For now I would like to see more stories of abuse so that those who were abused can begin to heal. This process needs to happen without the involvement of the abusers – in case you do not know who that is, check out the first few lines of this post. |
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