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     nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 144 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
http://www.losingmyreligion.com/index.htm Make sure you open the tabs on top...like "who we are" or "FAQs" | ||
| anon_e_mus New member Username: anon_e_mus Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 71.168.255.94 |
you really take this board away from its purpose and dominate it with mediocrity and background noise, David. I know it sounds like I'm attacking you. I still love you, but your behavior is frustrating. I guess it's not dead eNOUGH? | ||
| nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 148 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
The above link is a resource of help for those who have left the destructive myth of religion and need help in there recovery from it! Do you know what this board is for???? Its freedom from religion and other types of mind control!!! http://www.factnet.org/mission.htm http://www.factnet.org/?p=90 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_From_Religion_Foundation I am doing "its purpose"!!! What are you doing? You are attacking me! Talk about mediocrity! And stop waving your bullcrap self grandizing christian banner of "love" for me! It makes me nauseous! People leaving RELIGIOUS CULTS usually have a hole left in them and need to fill it with good, healthy stuff and not just another flavor of the kool aide they were drinking! I hope people will find a purpose,hope, love and contentment outside of the religious strangle holds of myths gone awry... Find your bliss and follow it! -Joseph Campbell http://www.jcf.org/bliss.php | ||
| fatherofaking Intermediate Member Username: fatherofaking Post Number: 185 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 70.16.222.96 |
hey naba, i would like to say that i think you are doing a good thing for yourself and others here. i for one am pleased with how far you have come. you seem much more stable these days. that is not a slight, i know instability when i see it. | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
Nabash, you know I love you and never say bad things about people, but this time your hurts and prejudices are showing through. "Do you know what this board is for???? Its freedom from religion and other types of mind control!!! http://www.factnet.org/mission.htm " Read again. It doesn't say freedom from religion: it's freedom from religious cults. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater because your definition of religion may be different than other people's definitions. My definition of religion is what guides my value system and is not a bad thing because it includes a personal relationship with my God; not atheism. If our leaders were to be God fearing people and really lived what the Father wants the to live, then by the very expression of their votes on issues and stands they took would make a total separation of "church and state" impossible. If I were a legislator and found an issue to be immoral or Ungodly, would you insist I turn away from my personal or religious beliefs and vote what I knew to be wrong? I think that instead of pressing for separation of church and state, we should instead be pushing and praying for some real Holy and valueminded people that are genuine to be placed in positions of leadership. Where would freedom of religion if it would stop (which I feel would be the end result of separation of church and state); would it allow sites like this or any communities of fellowship or worship? We would face total Godlessness and immorality. there are problems with religious zealots and frauds, but not all "Christians or Believers" are bad. That would be to say what you were telling me the TT believes, that because my Dad follows the teachings of Jesus (and I do to) that we are satan worshippers. Take away our religious freedoms and we have no ability to even talk or search for answers of what the Father wants for our lives. That is what one of your links talks about... separation of beliefs and government. (or church and state as you would call it). With Love Misti | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
Please believe me Nabash. I am not attacking you. I am trying to understand. | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
From Factnet "Freedom of Mind FACTNet views freedom of mind, otherwise known as freedom of thought or free will, as the elemental prerequisite that underlies all other human rights and freedoms, freedoms such as freedom of religion and free speech. Freedom of mind does not imply a right to absolute freedom of behavior, but rather to absolute freedom of belief. It is the freedom: to observe and consider the world with as objective an eye as possible, to think and analyze rationally, and to formulate our beliefs -- and so our lives -- by exercising the measure of autonomy that we have been given. Without free will, no religious, political, or social freedom has meaning." That doesn't say "Freedom FROM Religion" | ||
| nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 149 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
"If the baby is a demon, burn it!" Would a atheist/agnostic nation be immoral??? Hopefully this will debunk some of the "myths" you hang onto... http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blag_index.htm http://atheism.about.com/b/a/091631.htm http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blathm_index.htm | ||
| nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 150 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
So I have the right to believe in what I choose correct? Isnt that what our countries founding fathers had in mind? | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
You do have the right to believe what you chose. That is correct and so do I and we can still be friends. My issue was whether this site was about freedom FROM religion. If what I believe in my life isn't salvagable or correctable(?) then I should discard it. I think it is correctable and salvagable. My misgivings with "The Church" has to do with hypocrasy of some not all and the church losing it's "first love" and unwillingness to take full responsibility. Widows and orphans for instance are the responsibilities I believe of believers, not government. That's an example. (Message edited by daddysgirl on July 31, 2007) (Message edited by daddysgirl on July 31, 2007) | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
I find no reason to deny or disgard my belief in God. I respect your right to believe what you chose. | ||
| nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 151 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
Thank you! I believe I will be free from religion! I never said anything about my belief in God! Im keeping that! http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/ath/blag_index.htm | ||
| soul1958 Junior Member Username: soul1958 Post Number: 50 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 75.100.9.66 |
I was just passing by and had this big wrench....  http://www.becketfund.org/ "The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, interfaith, legal and educational institute dedicated to protecting the free expression of all religious traditions. We operate in three arenas: in the courts of law (litigation), in the court of public opinion (media), and in the academy (scholarship). "Freedom of religion is a basic human right that no government may lawfully deny; it is not a gift of the state, but instead is rooted in the inherent dignity of the human person. Religious expression (of all traditions) is a natural part of life in civilized society, and religious arguments (on all sides of a question) are a normal and healthy element of public debate. Religious people and institutions are entitled to participate in government affairs on an equal basis with everyone else, and should not be excluded for professing their faith." (Emphasis mine. Please remember professing faith is protected...unethical practices should not be.) | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
Thank you soul. And I agree with your emphasis. | ||
| nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 152 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
Ahhhh! Nothing like being healthy!  | ||
| daddysgirl New member Username: daddysgirl Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 71.49.198.243 |
I'll tell you what I tell my Dad, Nabash. "You're fun to debate with for an old person."  I tell him that since I just turned 30. I know in Kentucky and being 30 and single makes me an old maid. | ||
| nabashalam Intermediate Member Username: nabashalam Post Number: 153 Registered: 1-2006 Posted From: 24.183.100.216 |
Being 20 and single makes you an old maid in Kentucky!!!  | ||
| anon_e_mus New member Username: anon_e_mus Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2005 Posted From: 71.168.240.134 |
Dave, You got "told"! | ||
| soul1958 Member Username: soul1958 Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2005 Posted From: 75.100.9.66 |
I've found that he's EXASPERATING and EXHAUSTING to debate with -- at any age! { |
