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     tracy_pelfrey Member Username: tracy_pelfrey Post Number: 95 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 69.208.0.23 |
"I am sure many ladies have experienced Breatfeeding at NTCC. Having a new born who needs fed every 2 hours and no place to breastfeed except the bathroom. You get a stall with an open seat toilet and pray that your dress won't go into the toilet. My back would hurt, my behind would hurt, and sometimes I would come out a little wet." Someone emailed me the other day to tell me about the difficulties of breastfeeding a baby when attending the church in Graham (the model for churches around the globe). When I went to the church I attend recently, I had to use the Ladies Restroom. This was in the main part of the building...next to the Sanctuary. I was dumbfounded. There was a separate room with very nice, comfy furniture and soft lighting...for the moms who need to perform the feeding of their wee one. It was so nice...it almost made me wish I could have another little one...so I could go sit in there. (surely I'm joking...surely I am) In the part where the stalls were...get this you ladies in Graham...there was a huge mirror. I could actually see if my hair was out of place or if I had something hanging out of my nose or something similarly embarrassing. This, in a church, which has a box in the back of the church for offerings. Nothing is said about how that "All Christians PAY tithes and GIVE in the offering". They seem to accomodate and welcome everyone. They seem to have thought of everything. They behave as an assembly of believers...not with ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL (if you didn't see the movie or read the books, then you won't get it)...but as a group of people gathering together to pray, receive something edifying, worship, reach out to the community around them, and to meet, not only in the main church building in a large group, but also in smaller group settings with folks in the same age bracket and station in life. It's so refreshing. "Excuse me sir, where may I breastfeed my baby?" NTCC "usher": "Well, we have a bathroom with toilets with no lid or, you can stand, or you can troop out to the parking lot and sit in your car. You see here...we give you lots of choices". Same question, answered by someone in the church I currently attend: "Well, we have a beautiful mother's lounge where you can do that in privacy and comfort" We care about your needs."}}} | ||
| anewlife Junior Member Username: anewlife Post Number: 28 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 75.179.177.102 |
I remember standing there with 3 inch heels on in the ladies room balancing a 15 pound baby in my arms and nursing. I couldn't bring myself to sit on those nasty toilets with pee all on them. My mother raised me not to sit on public seats as a child. I remember thinking angrily, Couldn't they at least give us a chair or something? It wasn't fair. I have to feed my baby and I'm getting punished for it? If I ever have another child I am strictly bottle feeding. It's not worth all the hassle. It's looked down upon to nurse any where in public. I tried nursing in public a couple of times and tried to cover up as best I could and people were still offended like I was some pervert or something. And all you're thinking about is how do I calm this crying baby? The solution? Sit on a nasty public toilet. It's not worth it. | ||
| victorjohanson Intermediate Member Username: victorjohanson Post Number: 214 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 216.67.71.15 |
"The solution? Sit on a nasty public toilet. It's not worth it." The real solution is to let the prudes be offended. And the law is on your side. Anyone who objects to a woman breastfeeding any time, anywhere, is the one with a problem. Your baby deserves the best, and that won't come from a bottle (unless you get a breast pump, that is. But I believe any normal baby would prefer a God made nipple than a piece of synthetic rubber). | ||
| nbrown Junior Member Username: nbrown Post Number: 33 Registered: 11-2006 Posted From: 67.168.97.70 |
I too had to experience going to a bathroom stall to breastfeed. Thankfully it wasn't too much later that my husband decided to leave. anewlife - I hope you have found a new church that is much more friendlier. Breastfeeding is the most natural normal thing there is. Just the other day I saw a lady with her baby at the park enjoying her day and feeding her baby. Just pay no attention to those weirdos out there who would look down on a woman. | ||
| pelfdaddy Intermediate Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 359 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.217.250.23 |
I breast-fed RW Davis for seventeen years. Now I'm really sore. Is there like...some sorta cream for that? | ||
| bro_derrick Intermediate Member Username: bro_derrick Post Number: 212 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 70.192.134.155 |
That is so DISGUSTING (There may be no cream, but there definitely is a salve and a balm...) One of the biggest things people are robbed of in these cults is simple good religion and normal bible preaching in a wholesome family atmosphere. Rather than the super-holiness head-banging hype of really special 'servants' of God. | ||
| wasted_years New member Username: wasted_years Post Number: 8 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 69.212.247.4 |
The church did not issue you a baby, lady! You're the one who just had to have one. You'll have to figure out where to feed it. I jest but there is much truth in jest. | ||
| still_in_pain Junior Member Username: still_in_pain Post Number: 26 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 67.170.115.170 |
Just pay no attention to those weirdos out there who would look down on a woman. But, it is Ok to look, Right?? (hee hee) | ||
| anewlife Junior Member Username: anewlife Post Number: 35 Registered: 7-2007 Posted From: 75.179.177.102 |
Wasted years, that statement reminds me of one time rwd was getting on this brother about taking turns watching the kids with his wife at conference so that she could go the teachings and services too. Rwd told us all that it is the women that want the kids and so they need to stay home and watch them. I was dumbfounded. It was as if he was giving our husbands permission to mistreat us. I truly hated him for that. I now know that he's just a weakminded individual who knows nothing about true compassion. He just doesn't care at all. | ||
| waitingtoexhale New member Username: waitingtoexhale Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2008 Posted From: 67.9.98.56 |
I always loved the "sweet" statement if you kids made a sound other than breathing some single brother would say.." I am so glad I don't have children"! I quickly replied,"I am glad you don't either!" "Whadduh BleesssssSing" WTE | ||
| chris_fears New member Username: chris_fears Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2008 Posted From: 96.230.201.75 |
(This is Bobbi) I, too, breastfed in Graham. I sat on those toilet seats. Forgive me for being crude, but what happens to a woman after she gives birth? When you push out a baby, you tend to push other things out, too. Sitting on a toilet seat didn't exactly help that issue. I remember begging my pediatrican to give my daughter her shots early so I could stop standing in the bathroom all service because she made noise. I remember feeding her in the stall, then longing for a mirror to see if my shirt was pulled down properly, or to see if I had leaked at all. I remeber struggling to get myself ready for church, getting my new girl ready, spending hours in the process. Then standing for an hour in the bathroom, missing the whole service. Good thing I spent all the time curling my hair, eh? There was also an issue of the band. I was looked down upon for still playing in the band or singing in the choir when I had a newborn. I was wrong, and my hubby was stupid, for agreeing to watch OUR baby while I did the music part of service. Heaven forbid he actually watch our baby sleep in her carseat for 15 minutes. That's just too much pressure for 'a kid the woman insisted on having' (not true) on the man. And if she woke up and cried? SURELY I would put down my instrument and rush to help her. After all, the man can't be distracted from the service, right? I've always wondered why it was so wrong to have kids. In the Bible, wasn't a considered a curse if you were barren? Weren't those women embarrassed and saddened when God had not blessed their womb? What happened? Breastfeeding in public? I got a little braver with my son. Lydia was there, and I can't lock her in a bathroom stall for half an hour while I fed her brother. The way I see it, the people that have a problem with it are the ones that never breast fed. - Bobbi (obviously not Chris, heehee) i.am.bobbi@gmail.com | ||
| pelfdaddy Senior Member Username: pelfdaddy Post Number: 1048 Registered: 12-2006 Posted From: 166.214.38.82 |
Children decrease the efficiency and mobility of RW Davis' ministerial work-units. He gets this across quite clearly, and cannot understand why a couple would dare to have a child knowing what an inconvenience it is to HIM. |
