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promises_firm
New member
Username: promises_firm
Post Number: 17
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 66.16.49.113
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:59 pm: | 
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yes that's his problem.
oh and don't use God's WORD as an advertisement on myspace or any other space please.
it's called "using His Name" in vain.
you know,vanity? |
grace2u
Intermediate Member
Username: grace2u
Post Number: 304
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 70.178.195.217
| | Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:33 pm: |
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Boy do you not see how you spin stuff (is this purposeful) and tell things that are not true?
There is nothing on Carman's myspace or any other site that says Carman . . . the same yesterday today and . . .
The fact that you omitted "World Outreach" makes me really question your motive. Still I cannot judge. A World Outreach would indicated a work through Carman (I would assume since He tells people about God which is a ministry work). This would be God's work which His word tells us that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever and as a result His work would also be the same.
Any differences that we might see in God's work relate to the point of time that we are looking at things and does not indicate the whole picture.
May God's will be done in your life.
(Message edited by Grace2u on July 19, 2007) |
promises_firm
New member
Username: promises_firm
Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.169.30.35
| | Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007 - 10:56 pm: |
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he took if off apparently.
i wouldn't know as who the heck goes there all the time. last time, it was there.
carman so here you are on tbn singing from the earlier recording in coasta mesa. let's see. you are singing songs, that you don't put into practice. if you love Jesus, yes you do, then why don't you love Him by keeping His commands? doesn't your large large print Bible tell you in the New Testament not to take your brother to court?
what's up with rendy and florida courts?
can you explain to grace2 that it's "CARMAN world outreach". and that you are using the Bible definition of Jesus to mankind, as a statement that you aren't going to be kept down.
your proud face you know making a proud chin lifted face, posted next to the SCRIPTURE.
grace seems to have a problem with reality overall. tell her that your guests are interesting thus far. but we'll see how much you try to gratify acting. loved, oh yeah loved the girl that told you to your face that she isn't about acting but is focusing on ministry. you couldn't get her into the acting worship thing that you want to bring us all into.
are you going to talk about sly and frank's mom's psychic witchcraft involvement and her "girls" or is that okay with you because her sons are famous and in the arts? love that he is talking about living in the shadow of his brother. you said, "all the air gets sucked out of the room when the brother comes in"? lol that's you carman! and oh my goshskis you said, "family dynamics".
going to sign off and watch the rest of the "show". and other people being in far more reality than you and down to earth, or really up to God not just talking about Him zealously. so do you like frank coz of sly? bring him apple pies or only his brother? you really have huge eye brows do you know it? and now you are saying "he looks good" just like your mom says that to you. why do you care what he looks like? ewww creepy.
did you notice that the guitar was turned way up compared to the vocal mike and he couldn't be heard properly?
oh that's right, sorry for a moment it was forgotten that you don't read these and have your handlers read it. so honest and so humble and so mature.
liked the huge font stage notes last week.too proud to wear to vain to wear your reading glasses on tv? like the red hair.
my mom made me watch you, trying to defend you.
she isn't winning. let's see what you are like tonight. besides playing time2's which are pretty good. love the chamber music tidbits.
mi displace dvvero.
tell your handlers this:
vada via che sa di aglio.
neanche se lei le ha cotto il cervello.
tornatene dalia mammina!
O creature sciocche, quanta ignoranza e` quella che v'offende?
don't read this yourself frocio!
your emphasis on the Gospel and non typical Christians testifying is pretty cool though, pretty cool!
God isn't italian and He calls people to let go of their culture many times to become closer to Him. would you do it, or just live the way you want as long as you sing and preach?
you have a cool thing on now about X hookers. brave. have to be bummed though that you are still giving honor to women in the place that you should for your wife. people say it to you often, and do you think that its true? you bring women to the forefront that are sexy and yet are away from a calling to promote your wife and to maybe develop her talents and reputation.
try talking to the Lord about that and see what He says. |
giulia
Junior Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 61.68.161.43
| | Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 5:37 am: |
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You can't write Italian well, non si dicie "quanta ignoranza e' quella che v'offende", questo non e' grammatico corretto, beh, se abiti nelle montagne, forse, ma non in citta' and the rest of what you said is also grammatically incorrect, anyway not giving away Italian lessons tonight. God is Hebrew and they were always proud of that even though grace was extended to the gentiles as well.
In am actually wondering what invested interest you have in this whole thing? Sounds like you're hurt, actually.
What's wrong with giving honour to hookers once they have repented and why so concerned about giving honour to the wife instead? Is that what you were meant to be in your head?
A woman of God does not need a man to promote her talents and reputation, in fact Jesus became of no reputation and does not respect persons, so a repentant hooker in His eyes would be the same as the queen, shame more people can't see that way and even after God has washed and forgiven we still remember, shame, shame on those who bring up that which was put away to bring shame.
Not like you speak with edification, you sound very bitter.
(Message edited by Giulia on July 28, 2007) |
giulia
Junior Member
Username: giulia
Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2007
Posted From: 61.68.161.43
| | Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 5:42 am: |
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Can't you see the man is trying, he looks like he is going through some heavy stuff to me. |
lovelikeachild
New member
Username: lovelikeachild
Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 76.31.203.217
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 1:25 am: |
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i really don't watch tv that much but I saw carman on tbn and thought it was a good show
I liked that there were many secular people that are saved now.
I dont know all his problems or care to but he always seems to reach everyone and we have always enjoyed his work.
god bless em and keep em |
promises_firm
New member
Username: promises_firm
Post Number: 22
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.169.30.35
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:20 pm: |
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i just took some phrases out of travel book that we use in italy. it's their grammar. it's just humor. with a point.
and actually a woman is designed to be washed and built up and covered by her husband.
he is indeed supposed to develop her talents to greater and lesser degrees. as a team and with him as her protection and supporter and yes, provider in again varying degrees.
a young girl needs a father to bring out and to develop and protect her concerning talent. that is one of the roles that a father plays according to the developmental pyschologists.
carman does it for women, lot's of women but can't seem to find his wife in the Lord. that means whatever he says publically that he really doesn't want to. or there could be something in her place like his career or a person like a mother who has the place that normally is given to a wife.
if you are meglamaniac and are hurtful or revengeful and undermining if you can't be in control when you want to, then you are not a good or safe canidate for marriage. maybe things are just fine until control is challenged or there is nothing to get or gain. it's one thing to work with someone or be their friend in the industry or ministry, but to married to them is a completely different set of "dynamics" (using carman's words).
what do you have when a man is 50, his mom is the queen of his life and when he is very opposed to being humble or honest about himself and is supremely controlling and ridiculously charming. he doesn't have to be married to tony orlando or jan crouch. it isnt' deferent or sacrificial and doesn't require death to self and preference above and real intimacy.
it is more about who and how he would hurt. and the fact that he and no one basically would discuss that truthfully or do the things in life it may take to alter and change it for the purpose of marriage or character transformation.
Jesus said, "Be ye transformed". carman is extremely stubborn and self centered, you can't tell from all the winking and smookie smiling and joking he does on air or the performing and charming otherwise. try being in a power struggle with him, privately. especially if he is convinced for selfish reasoning that he is right.
after watching him on tbn something doesn't feel just right. and he is really pouring on the charm. he has what the other ministers have taught on recently, the infiltration of the world and he introduces it and brings it into the Body of Christ, the church and now the world as a jezebel "dynamic".
CARMAN HAVING ANYTHING JEZEBEL!!!!???? Good Heavens!!!! How improbable!!!!!!
he gets us to accept things that are worldly, compromised and unclean and then he cleans it up with a speech about how it has something Christian in it.
he excuses people as long as they are in the spotlight limelight self-light and he barely does anything except joke, about false light.
he sings this little light of mine, but when it comes to confronting sin or witchcraft in various forms in the lives of others, he provides little light. does he have the guts to write to these people and give them a loving rebuke. heck no. if these people were so cool spiritually, so actually righteous the Bible says that they would love him more in the end for rebuking them. what a weenie. |
promises_firm
New member
Username: promises_firm
Post Number: 23
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.169.30.35
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:42 pm: |
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tim storey who is excellent, isn't right about dog chapman. the man uses the mother f term constantly, has a bodacious temper is not supportive of his wife emotionally and can get very abusive in basic abusive terms. not smacking her, but his temper. he has been on church tv programs, really twisting the definition of the Holy Spirit. something really new age and american indian.
his doctrine and personal beliefs are not in line with basic Bible reality. we can't just allow for false doctrine because the guy is larger than life and says he is reabilitating people. he had a really blasphemous promo and new name for his new season on A&E just recently. since carman is watching, why didn't he make a call, send a card, do a little emailing and really defend the Gospel. not with a celeb, they are exempt.
dog makes us cringe sometimes and he is a very bad example. maybe he started out wanting to do otherwise.
it seems like carman and tbn and some other headliners are writing a new testament that is much more compromised than the real one.
he was a Christian as a teen, but tim says he led him to the Lord. but dog has fathered many kids and has lived with women without being married and defended it. okay, he got married. reluctantly and was out doing bounty hunting the day of which is a passive form of sabotage and a statement of priority.
he isn't a strong Christian and he doesn't base his life on the Bible. also carman watches alot of tv. that isn't good for anyone. there is a degrading impact from it, a spirit shaping and character compromising power in it. it's largely unclean and there is a huge amount of witchcraft.
carman should not give money he has earned or has been given in ministry to purchase hbo or showtime or any pay channel that provides blatant pornography. deep inside, he knows it. he has watched inappropriate things and he is compromised in areas of tv and movies. he is.
he is. he really is.
if he likes something he finds a way to "sanctify" it. or sanitize it. jerk. he does have jezebel spirituality and he knows better but is too selfish to give up things that make him satisfied or give him connection and escape.
no Christian should purchase hbo. and he should not watch the sopranos or other things and pretend that it has no impact on his soul or how he influences others.
he just doesn't like to say no, to himself. and this paragraph is victimizing him right?
was it jan or someone at tbn who told him he should sue another Christian? does he go around the building at tbn in ca and reprove the new age weirdness and unclean, really- the unclean things on site? no. because he is getting something.
then he is not allowed to be critisized, or scrutinized which is culty. he rationalizes everthing he does and is really worldly. then again, we "have" to overlook that or deny it altogether because of the positive impact and the legitmate aspects of his walk or ministry.
rules about him, but no standard rules for him. |
promises_firm
New member
Username: promises_firm
Post Number: 24
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.169.30.35
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:56 pm: |
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whatever the crouches think, which is so very truly far below what the Lord in His infallibility thinks or commands, carman was also completely wrong to kiss a married woman in a movie and again, sanctify it in the name of acting. don't suppose God's grace and ultimate purposes through tbn is a tolerance or approval for somethings that are just wrong no matter how you try to spin.
he's trying, but he is not doing. doing what he knows is right. it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of the clear and holy Word of God.
we transform into His image and we are commanded not to do that with the World.
why didn't frank stallone testify about God in any way?
tbn is a ministry not my favorite celeb tv show. carman doesn't even begin to grasp discern or actually care about what may be, and in some ways, definitely-is jezebel in his life and out of him.
before they allow celebs to speak about an affection for God, they need to qualify them with an set of standard questions and verification.
God doesn't rely on Hollywood and it is one of the most undermining destructive evil forces in the entire world. it does far far more evil than good and compromises nations, cultures and morals.
the 3% of professionals in the business out of tens of thousands, who are dedicated to God, and who claim Him as Savior or how about LORD, those who confess Christ as LORD are saved the Bible says, are to be celebrated and rejoiced with, fellowshipped with too. but whose body of work actually leads anyone to Christ or glorifies Him?
carman drained an anointing off of Clifton Davis after joking with him and doing his customary and never admitted to jealousy. same thing with the girl who was an actress and was a Prince girl. carman is very different spiritually than he thinks or others think. and of course if it's on fact net it can't be accurate. only if it's on tbn and is in someway entertainment or celebrity.
relevancy can be adultery. yes it can. who talks about spiritual adultery any more?
carman? never.
does he love God enough to cancel all pay per view chanels and not support them or secretly watch things he knows are defiling and actually wicked or immoral? carman thinks we should watch everything we want and as long as one person is saved, even if they are compromised, who has worked on the program or the set then HEY it's all good. or the devil can't do anything.
even though Jesus tells us to be sober and vigilant. not to bring an accusation against the devil, but to trust in God to defeat him. and that His name is a strong tower and the ever always completely true, submit to God,(that's the key) and then resist the devil and he must flee.
liked the way he put both hands over his penis area when asking the redeemed and healed hooker, (she is cool)(we hope)how she got into her profession. he seemed so interested in vegas and he seemed so interested in sly stallone too.
carman do you ever tell yourself the truth.
the truth brother, the actual truth. |
promises_firm
New member
Username: promises_firm
Post Number: 25
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 70.169.30.35
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:59 pm: |
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would you please tell the crouches that the tbn property site has alot of unclean and mythology and false light things around and the lobby looks very strange, over done and bizarre. things that are a bad witness, mentally goofey, mis spenditures of donations and things that attract demonic presence. ask Peter Wagnor or George Otis.
do you think you should go to any movie, just because you can? you aren't impervious sorry superman ego maniacs, and you for all of your singing and winking and gestures, italiano references and little accents, (hiding and control patterns) and facsination with people being saved in the industry, are setting a standard with media and ideas that isn't godly and doesn't worship God.
you can't redeem the film industry. only people and make our own films. do you think you can close every bar and brothel? that would be great, but it ain't gonna happen.
what are you going to do now, call that "religious". no the mary statues and the over trust for the crouches at tbn is religious.
fast and pray carman, fast and pray. live the Bible more than you make cute, or noble songs up about it.
and please-stop winking and squinching up your face and casting little soul spells at us over the camera. it's been good to notice that some people in the audience are not really responding to you charm. some people, just some, look annoyed.
you and your "followers" going to bless and love now? only-bless and love? that's what "your" people are like.
read obama's recent statements about this country not being a Christian nation? offer any materials on your myspace or website that prove otherwise? to controversial for you my man?
when are we going to see you dawn jan's wig some night?
sorrrrry how evil to say such things.
evah hear the things "they say" about other people, especially anyone who has a problem with the hollywood, new age, compromised factors?
glad jan rescued you. now are you going to drop the unBiblical law suit? forgive and let God restore to you double? was it judgment anyways carman? was it? |
lampost
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Username: lampost
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 164.111.31.234
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 3:29 am: |
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Sounds like you are really concerned and burdened with all this. I would hope you are spending ALOT of time on your face before the Lord praying and interceeding for Carman Ministries and for TBN.
It sounds like God has given you alot of insight as to what Car does and does not do in the privacy of his home and what he watches and chooses not to watch on tv. That also may be something that you need to interceed for, if that is indeed a concern of yours. I know I do. I pray alot for ministers in the lime light. It aint easy out there you know and they need a lot of prayer covering.
If you have a problem with his ministry or his witness, then talk to the ministry about it. If you cant get ahold of anybody then talk to the Holy Spirit about it and tell Him to go talk to him. God sees all and knows all. If you have a relationship with God and Carman has a relationship with God then have Him take care of it. Meanwhile "eat the meat and spit out the bones"! Your gonna give yourself a stroke! |
lovelikeachild
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Username: lovelikeachild
Post Number: 2
Registered: 7-2007
Posted From: 76.31.203.217
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 4:50 pm: |
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read obama's recent statements about this country not being a Christian nation?
obama is a member of the CFR.this country was not founded as a christian country it was to be the new atlantis. ask a mason!
only people can be christian. do you have a christian cat or dog?
pokerface.org |
missykwan
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Username: missykwan
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 67.149.241.154
| | Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 5:38 pm: |
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[quote][i]Originally quoted by Promises_Firm[/i]
[b]yet are away from a calling to promote your wife and to maybe develop her talents and reputation.[/b][/quote]
Wait, what? When did Carman get married?  |
minihahaha
New member
Username: minihahaha
Post Number: 1
Registered: 8-2007
Posted From: 68.0.79.87
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 5:51 pm: |
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HEY PROMISES ARE U CHARLEAN (OC) U SOUND LIKE HER SHE REALLY WANTED TO MARRY CARMAN. I WENT TO CHARLEANS SITE AND LISTEN TO HER SING PRETTY BAD I TELL YA REAL BAD. |
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