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dancer
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.40.211.238
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whole article: http://www.rickross.com/reference/newcan/newcan15.html

Even if George Robertson had never heard of the Church of Scientology, there's ample reason for him to be resentful of the original CAN. As an associate of the Reverend Carl H. Stevens Jr., founder of a now-defunct religious ministry called The Bible Speaks, the 58-year-old Robertson had been affiliated with a group that CAN had persistently decried as a dangerous cult. Stevens, a one-time bakery truck driver who claimed that his every utterance was inspired of God, had moved the headquarters of The Bible Speaks from Maine to Lenox, Massachusetts, in the late '70s.

Robertson set up a ministry affiliated with Stevens in his native Florida."He was always kind of sucking around Pastor, as we used to say,"recalls an ex-Bible Speaks cleric who observed Robertson during stints in Lenox. "He was constantly around Carl. He was one of those guys who felt the need to get close to the king, to feel the sensory aroma of royalty."

The Bible Speaks' troubles erupted with Betsy Dovydenas, heiress to the Dayton-Hudson department store fortune (which includes Target stores). Dovydenas joined Stevens' church in 1982 and was soon persuaded to leave her husband and two children and to turn over to The Bible Speaks $6.6 million of an estate then estimated to be worth $20 million. Flush with cash, Stevens' operation expanded to a wooded 85-acre campus on the outskirts of town, complete with state-of-the-art radio and television studios, an assembly center, and a new home for the Stevens College of the Bible. But in 1986, Dovydenas' husband and parents pried her away from the group long enough to have a cult deprogrammer convince her that she had been mesmerized. The next year she sued the church to get her money back,claiming undue influence. The case went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, and, although she eventually won, the victory was largely empty.The Bible Speaks had declared bankruptcy. Among other things, court records show that Stevens had used some of the money to buy a fancy Florida condo. The heiress ended up with a white elephant -- the former church's headquarters campus. "I got brainwashed," recalls Dovydenas, 47, of the experience. She refers to Stevens as a "bogus, sleazy preacher,"adding, "I find it incomprehensible that anyone in the hierarchy of his organization could be sincerely motivated."

Yet, the controversy didn't end Stevens' career or Robertson's affiliation with him. Stevens shuttered the Lenox operation and moved to Baltimore.
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minutus
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 207.156.7.250
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 3:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The heiress ended up with a white elephant -- the former church's headquarters campus."

That's better than "I was brainwashed and all I got was this stupid T-shirt." :-)
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cordell
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 70.124.124.36
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 8:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Minutus you should feel a song comin' on about now. Something to the tune of Nirvana's "Teen Spirit" maybe. Should be a piece of cake for you.

(Message edited by cordell on July 19, 2007)
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bob_brinton
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Post Number: 1308
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 70.109.245.143
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 6:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Cordell,

Are you ever up this way? I know a place that has a great beer and ale list with decent food nearby. Be glad to buy you a lunch. Go Sox!

Bob
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cordell
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Username: cordell

Post Number: 2312
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 70.124.124.36
Posted on Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How far is it from where you are to Hancock, MA?
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bob_brinton
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Post Number: 1313
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 71.123.72.146
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 3:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About 30 miles or so. The place I'm talking about is the Old Forge. It's between here (Lee) and Hancock,
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cordell
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Post Number: 2314
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Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 7:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What's the weather like there now?
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david_munson
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Post Number: 4409
Registered: 9-2005
Posted From: 63.22.177.169
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 2:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)


Light followed by more light
continuing till dark
followed by dark until daylight.
George Carlin.

Hey,
you know.
Humor addiction.

(even if it's lame)
LOL.

70's to low 80's here in Maine ,
so Mass. must be warmer by some degree.

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