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hadasa
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Notwithstanding all of GGWO's notable erroneous teachings it is also notable that the lion's share of people frequenting this forum have problems with the Authority of Scripture and it's proclamations against sin. Talk about going from the oven to the frying pan, or is it the other way around, how's that go?. Many are using the error of GGWO to further their own (and other's) unbelief & agenda, that much is apparent as we see these colors revealed in more and more of the 'regulars'.

Basically the ones that only focus on condemnation on persons without really addressing truth issues (maybe only superficially); they do not appear to own much of a positive confession of what is right, i.e. scriptural truth; they only seem to know what is wrong; and that is mostly all they express; but even in that they do not even seem to be able to articulate the foundations of why they were caught into error; therefore open to more and worse error. Surely in some cases, the problem and reason for this conspicuous lack of conviction and adherance to God's Word is that people are decieved into thinking they are believers when they are in fact in a state of unbelief, even though they say they are Christians that once upon a time went to TBS/GGWO.

- ye must be born again.
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UNEQUALLY YOKED: The well traveled GGWO factnet Road, Another HISTORY OF GGWO factnet.


Too many times it is observed that what appears to be some actual (hopefully actual anyhow) believers operating in incredible naivety.

They think they can partner with those who deny the Authority of Scripture (in a variety of ways) and be chummy with those who hold onto their sin and are even militant about it. They wish each other Godspeed and offer up many other congenialities towards each other after they discuss various topics. More often than not they are afraid to stand up for scriptural truth in any meaningful way, or perhaps more to their shame are unable to. Basically unbelief, ignorance of the Word, and the fear of man was the choice of most on GGWO factnet with the exception of a few isolated individuals.

To this sentiment I offer the following verse that speaks clearly to this extremely grave error.

"Do not become partners with those who do not believe, for what partnership is there between righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship does light have with darkness? And what agreement does Christ have with Satan? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeleiver? And what mutual agreement does the temple of God have with idols? For we are the temple of the living God, just as God said, "I will live in them and will walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people." Therefore "come out from their midst, and be separate," says the Lord, " and touch no unclean thing, and I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you will be may sons and daughters, says the All-Powerful Lord.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18
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As I seem to be the primary target on this one (FWDIM) I'll register just a couple of basic comments:

1. In terms of cultic behavior and control mechanisms (that is the theoretical focus of this board, right?) claiming that "anyone who disagrees with the teaching I'm giving you is going to roast in hell for it," really has to be at the top of the list. Saying, "our interpretation of the Bible is the only true interpretation, because we have a unique blessing of the Holy Spirit enabling us to see the TRUTH," comes a close second.

Those few who truly get beyond such pseudo-certainties are left in a place where their faith is based on a humble prayer, "God, thank you for the grace you have given me! I want to be submitted to you and to bring your love, grace, mercy and peace into the world, but I'm not entirely sure of how I should do that. All of the ways that cultures keep changing and all of the different conflicting dogmatic interpretations of your Word make that easier said than done. Please reveal your heart of love to me -- through your word, your people, your creation and your presence in my life -- so that I in turn can share that with others." That may not be "normal Christianity" but it may come a lot closer to the teachings of Jesus than "normal Christianity" does.

IMHO, those who base their lives on such a prayer spend a lot less time screaming "THAT'S SIN!" than those addicted to cultic pseudo-certainties. YMMV

2. In terms of practical moral living, those who subscribe to an absolute code of ethics are not necessarily more moral than those who subscribe to a relative code of ethics. Concrete example: someone who believes that all traffic laws are absolute codes that everyone on the road is morally bound to obey at all times is not necessarily a more law-abiding driver than someone who believes that traffic laws are variable codes set up to prevent accidents and environmental damage, and the main thing is to drive as safely and ecologically as possible using the law as a guide. The former may feel sinful every time he rolls through a stop sign or gets up to 70 in a 55, but he may keep doing those things anyway, confessing them as sins and asking for forgiveness afterwards each time. The latter may not feel guilty about speeding if he happens to do it once in a while, and of course he recognizes the significance of not getting caught, but he may tend to keep his speed down in general because he doesn't entirely trust the brakes on his old car and he sees the speed limits as a valuable guide to how fast he can safely go.

Given that Jesus taught that actions are more important than words (e.g. Matt. 21:28-31) and that you are not in a position to judge my actions (to say nothing of my heart) do you have any justification for accusing me, or any other non-absolutist here, of "holding onto my sin and even being militant about it"? If we are being militant about anything it is about not judging or attacking others in what amounts to a cultic mentality.

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Hadasa subscribes to the idea that - "the problem and reason for this conspicuous lack of conviction and adherance to God's Word is that people are decieved..."

A. Who are you to decide that others (according to you) lack conviction and adherance?

B. Who are you to declare that others (according to you) are decieved? What if You are the one that is decieved? How would you know? Many, many others have quoted verses and had no idea that what they declared as truth was in reality lies. People throughout the ages have used Biblical Teaching as the foundation of self service.

Your statements, Hadasa, hold no compassion, hold no love, and do not hold out thier arms to (dare I say it?) your brothers and sisters in Christ.

You divide, slander (without true knowledge) and declare Yourself to be the standard bearer of God's righteousness. Personally, I'm am full up to here with self righteous standard bearers. I will throw myself upon the mercy and compassion of an infinite God, who Despite my failings and hatreds and my self-serving-rebellions Knows me with far greater Knowledge than you or anyone else could and yet still Loves me with all His Being.

That's the only court I need.
But thanks so much for caring.

J
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Thanks Hadasa for the incredible lack of love and compassion you have shown to many posters on this board. Thanks for your arrogance and presumptiousness. Thanks for assuming you know what is inside peoples' hearts better than they do or than God does. Congratualtions Hadasa! You have just won the Pharisee of Factnet award!!! Well done!!

The Bible as its written is my standard for truth, not your own interpretation of it. That verse you quoted is about being unequally yoked with unbelievers. It means that I should not be married to an unbeliever or be in a close business relationship with an unbeliever. It does not say that I can't have a friendship with an unbeliever or hang with them sometimes. That does not mean that I approve of the sin that's in their life (including homosexuality) but it means that I love them enough to still be their friend and tell them the truth including lovingly confronting them about their sins. Jesus Himself hung around with a lot of sinners in His day instead of isolating Himself from them as you advocate. He came to seek the lost and ministered to them through the friendships too. Jesus told them the truth and confronted their sins without casting them away. The people that Scripture commands me to avoid are particularly those who name the Name of Jesus but live in open sin, not those who don't confess Jesus and sin as non-Christians do. That's exactly why I will not fellowship with the leaders of Greater Grace World Outreach!!! They talk about Christ but their actions don't reflect Christ. These are the kind of people I separate myself from. The rest will remain my friends and I will continue to hang out with them.
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hadasa
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Sorry girls, but you can always hug each other for comfort.

of course we are to befriend unbelievers, what i'm saying is when your around them you can't fellowhip with their sin or error; and that is exactly what many of you do; hold hand with people who maintain and argue that scripture may be uninspired and fallible and not agreeing with the content of the bible i.e. that certain practices (inc. homosexuality) are sin;(and with many people here; that is a highlight of their conversation): at that point your supposed to at least confront the unbeliever; but you people at least silently ascent, if not agree with these fundamental lies; and as you'll see further in this post, that what compounds it, is that most everyone on this forum maintains that they are beleivers.

ha, ha, ha sidethorn blasts my interpretation of a verse then gives a ridiculously confined view of the same verse; only marriage and buisiness huh side; no, I think their are other applications; and you bring up a good verse; the one that tells Christians not to fellowship with other people who call themselves Christians but who are living in open sin; that also goes for people who deny what God calls sin would fit under that category too, because they would be at least helping others to sin. And that is was is basically exhibited on GGWO factnet wholesale; people saying their Christians but saying the opposite of what God says about human sexuality and His inspired, preserved Word. Those are biggies since are body is the temple of the HOLY spirit and the Word is the only way we can know that; or anything else of real import spiritually speaking.

all that coaster riding has caused some erosion; wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......dork!

Sorry your all bundied up r-o-c-k-e-t-m-a-n-n-n-n-n-n-n; find comfort in your hobbit trilogy and star trek figurines.



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All that coaster riding was a far better use of my time than listening to sermons that contain the kind of nonsense you've been preaching on Factnet from time to time here for many months Hadasa!!! As far as talking trash goes, that was very weak!!! If you would just open your eyes, I was giving some examples of what it means to be unequally yoked to unbelievers, NOT necessarily all possible examples. Once again you make assumptions about others that are full of error, something you have a great talent for, not to mention all the judgementalism. But you just want to believe what you want to believe and ram your beliefs down other peoples' throats and then call them names just for disagreeing with you!! You act so much like Carl Stevens, its disgusting!!! You judge, condemn, twist Scripture, and run down others so much like he does. Thats a lot more of what plenty of people here are objecting to you about. Calling sin as sin is a good thing and is necessary. But there is a right way to confront people with sin and a wrong way to confront them. If you want to condemn them, ridicule them, and break up friendships with them, they're going to be far more likely to be resentful to the God you represent and refuse to repent. But if you confront them with love and kindly inform them that God has something better for them than their sin and loves them enough to have Jesus die for them on the cross, they're going to be far more likely to respond to God and repent. Throwing away all your non-Christian friends is not the answer, nor is it Biblical. Those verses I was refering to also state that if I was to avoid everyone who had sin in their life and claimed that wasn't sinful like many non-Christians do, I would have to leave the world altogether!!! That would also include people that deny that homosexuality is sinful.

You also seem to claim that most people posting here are claiming that homosexuality is okay with God. I seriously doubt that. This is just another example of your own presumptious attitude and your own arrogance. If you think you're just too good and special to have any non-Christian friends, you can take that up with God on Judgement Day. God will then show you all the witnessing opportunities you lost because you wouldn't hang with some people who thought their sin was okay. Some people need to be reached through friendship. Not everyone can be reached with a one time five minute evangelistic encounter. That's the way it is and if you would humble yourself and read the whole of Scripture with an open mind, you would find this to be true. So please stop acting like such a judgemental Pharisee and maybe people would take you more seriously.
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hadasa
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this dork calls me a Pharisee and cries that he's called a dork, ha ha ha, oh I just thought of something, I should know this, is it ms. dork?

get the gum out of your ears, I said you can befreind beleivers; but not f-e-l-l-o-w-s-h-i-p in their error i.e. your discussing fornication, homosexuality and how it's a-ok or jibing about how the bible is a book uninspired, only originated in the hearts of man and you foster an attitude of agreement with them, get it now, dork, then at that point you have to step back and confront at SOME point, which, no I don't see in you and many others on this forum cause all your tunnel vision can comphrehend is how big daddy CHS spiritually waped you, get over it and grow up spiritually and/or actually become a believer. As a christian you shouldnt be afraid to make your stance known, but many 'christians' on this forum have stances opposite scripture and just continue in silence or overt agreement; that's not being a Christian in any respect.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one bozo, oops soooorrry....please take me seriously, please

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Go ahead and twist what I'm saying just like Carl Stevens does. You were saying that we had to SEPARATE ourselves from anyone who thought their sinful acts were okay. That means I can't be friends with them, period. And I'm talking about unbelievers here. I already stated that believers are to avoid people who call themselves Christians who live in open sin. Now why don't you get the gum out of your own ears?? Here's what you were saying in your June 27 10:49 PM post. Here's a quote from it. "They think they can partner with those who deny the Authority of Scripture (in a number of ways) AND BE CHUMMY WITH THOSE WHO HOLD ONTO THEIR SIN AND ARE EVEN MILITANT ABOUT IT." There you go!! You said it right there, that I can't be friends or chummy with them!!! You say one thing and then deny it, twist statements and facts and then say another thing. You've proven that you're not interested in open, honest discussion with others and that you want to impose you're personal interpretation of Scripture upon others. Thats a big reason I have virtually no respect for you and also why I still don't take you seriously. So go ahead and make my year. Call me a dork all you want, cause I'm not crying at all over it!!! Shallow dishonest people like you who twist facts to their own advantage make me want to laugh at them when they come out with their little childish insults. You've also proven that you don't have the heart of Christ towards people, particularly unbelievers. You have the heart of an arrogant, self appointed Pharisee. Go ahead and deny it all you want, but you cant hide the truth anymore. The pride, judgementalism, and dishonesty in your heart is obvious to many!! So why don't you work on cleaning up your own act before you start concerning yourself with my act and the acts of other Factnet posters??? Judgemental, dishonest people like you in the churches give the whole church world a bad name are a big reason why more people don't come to church. So don't tell me I haven't been taking a stand here. I took a stand for what is right when I was in GGWO and got ousted and marked with slander for it. I take a stand on Factnet and not everyone likes it. Well too bad, I'm going to have a good night's sleep anyway. I came on Factnet to expose the false teaching and corruption of GGWO. That is an ongoing thing by my own choice. Its not because I can't get over getting spiritually raped by Pastah and love to be bitter and complain. Corrupt GGWO leaders say things like this to discredit me and their other critics. Its all horse crap!! Here you come Hadasa and say the same thing. You sound a lot like the GGWO is still in your head. You still talk and act a lot like them. Maybe you need to get over it once and for all!! Please grow up and stop trying to be right in your own way so much. Learn God's way of confronting people with their sinfulness with true love and caring for them as people. Your own life will then be a lot more meaningful.
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rocketman
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I don't know, I'm not a psychiatrist, but.... sometimes people who protest so ardently against things such as homosexuality and other vile and wicked things... sometimes... harbor secret desires in that area... Thier vehemence is directed at thier Own latent feelings, in essence preaching to themselves.... Keeping themselves pure from that sin which bubbles up inside them...

I just thought you might want to examine your own heart, hadasa... Review the bookstores you've been to...better that than God's judgement on any secret sin... Let us know if you find anything.

Later dude...

BTW- no figurines here bub.
J
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Sometimes that is true, rocketman, such as that preacher who confessed to having a secret gay affair (can't think of his name right now).

But also many times people just speak up out of plain old convictions, and out of frustration at how everything and anything is acceptable now.

I don't think all the mothers involved in MADD are closet drunks either. They just have strong convictions about something that they know is deadly.

No one is completely free from sin in this life, secret or otherwise (except Martin L). But that does not mean you can never speak out against it without being a hypocrite.
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hadasa
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rocketman, or batman or whatever

nice shot, it's what I get from busting on your sci-fi hobbies i guess

my main point has always been that when God in his scripture says something is sin; it is to our utmost devastation to say otherwise, be it adultry, murder, rape, etc. It just so happens the homosexuality thing was brought up by others who would have us believe that God is a-ok with it or that to say that scripture declares it as sin is 'hate speech'; that is my whole point, and yes, homosexuality is defined in scripture as a very destructive sin or more clearly a sign of an utterly reprobate mind.

what if some people say God has nothing to say about Adultry or let's get clockwork orange that murder is allright, that God is just a-ok with that; I would chime in quite similiarly then too.

rocketman said:

"Many, many others have quoted verses and had no idea that what they declared as truth was in reality lies. People throughout the ages have used Biblical Teaching as the foundation of self service."

All I have been basically saying is that the scriptures are reliable, can be understood commonly on areas of monumental moral absolutes like human sexuality; that the bible does declare homosexuality as sin.

Please tell me, rocketman, where I have been lying all this time.

sidethorn, keep up the good work I'm quite sure you feel your accomplishing a lot; and as your writing style bears out that you are quite the spaz, I can only offer one thing....

chuckle, chuckle
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Instead of chuckling, why not try out examining your own walk before God (not your ideas of God) and humble yourself enough to do the necessary repenting. You'll be far better off in the long run.
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ooh got me in a big glaring inconsistency, not really

"They think they can partner with those who deny the Authority of Scripture (in a number of ways) AND BE CHUMMY WITH THOSE WHO HOLD ONTO THEIR SIN AND ARE EVEN MILITANT ABOUT IT."

look again, partnering means agreement, even being in the world befriending unbelievers does not mean we are supposed to agree with them about their error and sin, especially when they are militant about it.

ok if I don't repent just right now Mr(s) sidethorn? ........chuckle
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Whatsup, again in a spirit of peace...
MADD are mad because they are either the direct victims or potential victims of a certain group of reckless sinners. That is a valid reason for hating something with a strong emotional commitment.

I might be wrong, but I doubt that any homosexuals are currently putting you or yours at risk. Now if you happen to be one of the women from Lenox who fell in love with a guy who turned out to be gay, I could understand where you'd have reason to hate homosexuality on that basis. If your child has been victimized by a homosexual pedofile, I could understand. If you are caught up in a hate movement which justifies itself by finding another group to hate, I don't respect it, but in a way I understand.

Beyond that, from what psych I've read and taught, Rocket is right: the main reason for an intense feeling of hatred would tend to be the result of a fear of the hated trait within oneself. E.g., sometimes it really drives me crazy when some people cannot SHUT UP, but I have to admit that part of the problem is that I do struggle with the same tendency myself. Example 2: I don't approve of any form of substance abuse, but I don't get emotional when I see alcoholism. Those that I know well who are seriously bothered by it are most often the children of alcoholics, who are both bitter at how they have suffered because of their parent's "disease" and at least subconsciously worried that they might inherit the problem.

IMHO there are a lot bigger threats out there to the well being of our children and our possibilities to preach the gospel of Jesus' death for the forgiveness of our sins than homosexuality. That being the case, the honest question comes to mind, why is homosexuality a particularly emotional issue for you, or Dave M., or Jimmie, or anyone else riding that one?

(Hasada's not hard to figure out: for a lack of Prozac (s)he just hates everyone and everything!)

Peace, D2
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D2, you do NOT get it...homosexuality is not wrong because I was a victim of gays in some way, and I do not hate homosexuals. Homosexuality is wrong because God declares it to be.

You have always had your own special interpretation of things, be it homosexuality, or the resurrection, or Scripture being God-breathed, or whatever.....I have never agreed with you on those issues. And I do not agree with your private interpretation of Romans 1 either. When it speaks of God giving people over to a reprobate mind, it goes right into describing homosexuality. I think that there are certain sins that destroy a person's soul in deeper ways than others.

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body (I Cor 6:18)

And homosexuality is one of the worst kinds of sexual immorality because it is perverted. It has an effect on the soul, and gays have a spirit that is discernible. I can almost always tell..even with the "masculine" ones. Which is why I never would have fallen in love with a guy in Lenox who turned out to be gay.

Sin is not sin because people say it is, sin is sin because God says it is. We don't make the rules. You have never really seemed to understand that.

You ask why homosexuality is such an issue for me and others here. Homosexuality became an issue on Factnet when bonniescott cheered Massachusetts for upholding gay marriage. If Massachusetts had legalized murder or pedophile behavior or rape, we would have spoken out against that as well. Even, believe it or not, if we did not struggle with those things secretly and even if they had never personally affected us. Just because they are WRONG, imagine that.

And I do not think that Hadasa hates everyone and everything. I think that he simply has strong convictions, and is angry at all the wishy-washiness and the blatent repudiation of scripture that is so prevalent here. He may come across a little harshly sometimes, but that is nothing new here either
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You da bomb whatsup!
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hadasa
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"And I do not think that Hadasa hates everyone and everything. I think that he simply has strong convictions, and is angry at all the wishy-washiness and the blatent repudiation of scripture that is so prevalent here. He may come across a little harshly sometimes, but that is nothing new here either"

yeah, see, it's just that simple, except that last part, my harshness is nothing compared to the other person's slander, purposeful misrepresentation, and other colorful jibes, some of you people resent the fact that you get paid back a little what you put out, but it's not that i'm paying you back, more like i'm answering you according to your folly
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hadasa
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d2, still shapeshifting his arguments, that's what spineless weasels do when they are backed in a corner and their folly is exposed.

instead of admitting they are wrrrong
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hadasa
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hey d2, just a few posts you were wishing me Godspeed, why all the vulgarities directed my way, I thought you were a man of unwavering peace, is a "spineless weasel" or two all it takes for you to reveal your true colors, even if it is accurate?
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Yes, D2, I was disappointed myself to see your crude vulgar remarks to hadasa....you always used to express yourself with more class, which I always respected even though I disagreed with your points of view
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thats not the way you were coming off and you know it Hadasa. You made it appear as if Christians were not supposed to have friendships with unbelievers, period. You're not consistant. You could have chosen your words better. Anyway, I don't have to agree with the sin in other peoples' lives and I don't, and won't partner with it either. I respect the Authority of Scripture even if it means I have to disagree with you. A lot more people respect the Authority of Scripture on this site than you would like to admit. The main purpose of this board was to expose cults like GGWO, not proclaim our individual stands on things. Just because someone doesn't post about a particular subject or sin does not mean that they're okay with it or too cowardly to speak up. Your characterisation of many Factnet posters not being willing to stand up for the truth of Scripture and compromising with sin is grossly inaccurate. Who appointed you as our judge anyway??? Yourself?? I think so. Then you misjudge people quite a bit and wonder why others don't take you seriously. So please go back to examining yourself, take necessary corrective action and maybe others will listen to you more.
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hadasa
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Username: hadasa

Post Number: 29
Registered: 6-2005
Posted From: 71.58.164.118
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sidethorn, didn't even read your squealing

Whats', It's all an eye opener, isn't it; the government behind the pseudo docile person (d2)with liberal ideas about the inspiration and/or interpretation of scripture is always revealed when pressed, when clearly exposed, they usually manifest similiarly, like cornered weasels.
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sidethorn
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Username: sidethorn

Post Number: 37
Registered: 1-2006
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You're the big squealer here, Hadasa!!!! Thou, hypocrite!!!!
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sidethorn
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Username: sidethorn

Post Number: 38
Registered: 1-2006
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Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Its one thing to take a stand against sin including the sin of homosexuality. Fine. But going on and on with all this ranting about it is ridiculous. Makes you look like a squealing whiner. We all know where you stand on that issue. Condemning others and namecalling them just for disagreeing with you is pointless. Why not try discussing something else for a change?
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dancer2
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Username: dancer2

Post Number: 35
Registered: 1-2007
Posted From: 62.248.159.155
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I entirely agree with sidethorn but it has now become a mute issue.

My apologies for offenses I've caused to others in blasting hasada this week. I seem to remember him (it is a him, right?) specifically asking me not to say anything so friendly to him, but now I can't find the exact quote. If I got it entirely mixed up, mea culpa, sorry for unnecessary friction.

It is a sweet irony to be repeatedly called spineless because I happen to be the one standing up to bullies here. That would apply to those who consider their style of faith and their interpretation of the scriptures to be a "license to kill" those who disagree with them. If I have offended anyone who does not fit into that category, I apologize.

I will not change my convictions to suit your tastes, but I do not expect you to do so for me either. I only hope our exchanges will lead some of you to stop and think more deeply about some of the ideas that you adopted to begin with without thinking because of the word of some authority figure in your life. (That was part of the idea of this board, right?)

If it is not a false alarm for a shut down (sort of like Neil's long goodbyes) this will be my last post, since I'll be out of town for a few days starting tomorrow morning, and once I'm back on-line FN will be no more!

Can't really say as I'll be sorry to have it gone. The best part has been a few old contacts renewed. Another side benefit has been (some of) the links to Youtube that Cordell and Sister Mary have taken the time to dig up for us. The worst parts have been self-evident.

"... I set off to find the sky!" (I was actually listening to that cassette in the car while driving last week.)
"Lately it occurs to me what a long strange trip it's been." (Got live footage of that one too?)

If any of you happen to drift into the Finnish capital district and want to make contact with a condemned heretic like myself, dial the 020202 information service and if you can spell my name correctly and they should be able to connect you directly to me.

For other connections I'll check into my temporary hotmail and Rocketman's blog over the course of the summer.

"Ebe-ebe-ebe-ebe, that's all folks!"
D2
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shat_happens
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Username: shat_happens

Post Number: 10
Registered: 3-2005
Posted From: 24.59.1.234
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...And Along Came Liquid Waves, and BAM!!! You Could all Laugh At Yourselves And The Fact That You Were All Taken In By An Opie Lookin' Mo-Fo With An Orange Hair Piece!

God Bless Liquid Waves...

http://liquidwaves.blogspot.com/

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